Soul Notes and Tuella- (11/19/96)
Archivist Notes: It's hard to not be
amazed each time a new channeling session
tape is transcribed and April's podcast is no
exception. An unusually large group of participants
showed up to ask questions of the
base personal so the
topics were many and
varied. Two topics stood out above the rest and they were soul notes that
were tied in with the
area a person was raised in
a higher dimensional
entity that was
a walk-in to the
body of Thelma
Terrell. The mass
evacuation of earth is
discussed based on
of Tuella and so
us of his
with her. Some
the other topics
us cover a
in the time allowed
by the tape's
night was Tia
who was cut
short to make
room for the necessary
night to be
off though she
got into a
make several dirty
bombs had gone
the world was
where it had
gone. Tia kept
but we came
to an answer.
One of our 3rd
making a move
and wanted some
by Tia. That
same topic would
picked up by
Omal whose far
concept of soul
a person to a
that though he
revisits the question
how the U.S.
news media had
opted not to
news and why.
With that, it
is the move
that is reviewed
and Omal once
with how a
land of their
birth and feel
in areas that
being in an area
where the vibrations
as well as a fact
about the Navajo
Nation that is
true about all
people on the
mixes in a
lessons for us
We know from previous
cloud at this
up side one
with a talk
had come up he
was able to
a return to the
topic of Tuella
blows away the
inside look at
the Council of
plans for the
of the planet
in the event
of a mass extinction
come as a surprise
but the way
they came to
sheds a light
a colony ship
taking on. Kiri
place in the channeling
to give us
for her but
first gives us
a clearer view
of the effects
once inside the
to us than Omal's
that it is a gray
area we go
into as Skip
of a previous
life. The fact
that it is his
earth has a
lot to do with
engine Kiri is
to help him
out with an
worthy of Gene
was. We next
hear from Kiri
on the base and
happen with giving
us too much
the filter of
what goes on the
on to channel.
We quickly go
over how my
referred me to
she had been
in my head as
I was getting
on my skis
define each of
in that skill.
Tia comes on to
get us to the
end of the
tape but not before
into Kiri's arm
with her nails
had not Kiri
made a joke
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(Tia comes on and gets the crowd under
oh that’s all right, we’ll…..
John: I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
Tia: we apologize for tonight’s delay and we will now start
the tape properly and the session. Tonight present is Skip,
Skip, say hello.
Tia: also present is Bonnie, Bonnie, say hello.
Tia: also present tonight is Larry, Larry, say hello.
Tia: also present tonight, Johnny.
Tia: (starts speaking French.)
John: your French sucks.
Tia: yeah but actually I was using the translator, first
time I’ve had the opportunity to use it.
John: oh, so that was a good tool for you to use.
John: now are you channeling with people in France and
Europe at this point?
Tia: not me no.
John: okay, are……..well okay well I don’t want to waste any
Tia: you don’t want to walk in……yeah. Also present tonight
now that he’s arrived……..
Russ: Russ!!!!!!! Hi Tia, how you doing?
John: that’s why I didn’t put the tape on sooner okay?
Russ: and a greetings and felicitations to you my love.
Tia: pull up a pew, sit down, behave.
Russ: as if I could do anything but.
Tia: oh yeah right, how many times has Russ misbehaved in a
Russ: oh please.
Skip: now wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, I
can’t count that high.
(Everyone laughs again.)
Russ: it's nice to get support from my friends tonight.
Larry: (laughs) Russ, everybody’s against you tonight, you
Tia: now, where was I? Oh yes, questions Skip, it depends on
how much you really want to succeed. (Referring to a
conversation that was taking place prior to the start of the
Skip: well if I put enough irons in the fire I’m liable to
get one that glows.
Tia: that’s correct and succeeding the key is, what are you
prepared to do to succeed?
Skip: help just about anybody and anything.
Tia: that’s the spirit, that’s exactly what I wanted to
hear. Not what you said before of you don’t know, you
weren’t sure but, a positive answer. You have to make the
positive, correct choice to achieve your goals. I’m not
saying that you will succeed, I’m not saying that you won't
succeed but your chances…..
Skip: I know, I know, I thought maybe I could slip one in
there on you.
Tia: but your chances of succeeding are higher if you
maintain that positive attitude.
Skip: got you.
Tia: next question.
John: let’s discuss the situation with the new Russia.
John: okay? Or Soviet Union or however you want to put it
about the missing plutonium.
John: well I do believe it poses a potentially difficult
situation for the rest of the free world.......
John: including that, including the new Russia.
Tia: not only is it plutonium, it’s also uranium,
strontium-90 and I believe a few other chemicals. All of
them combined together can make a very nice if somewhat
messy atomic bomb or several.
John: that’s what I’m referring to.
John: okay? Who’s got it, can you tell us who’s got it?
Tia: no I can’t, I can hint, you have to draw your own
conclusions. The people that have got it know that they’ve
got it but it is various shady leaders in that area of a
certain not necessary political persuasion but have some
political manipulation and have experience in leading
John: okay, I don’t want to hog too many questions here,
Tia: not yet.
Tia: not yet but there is a connection there.
John: how about Northern Ireland?
Tia: no, they can’t afford the price.
Russ: it’s the communists.
John: yeah, what’s a communist nowadays?
Tia: they were…….
Russ: it’s the Russian mafia and the communist movement are
kind of working together on that one if I remember right.
Tia: yes and no.
Russ: so it's the Russian mafia?
Tia: let me put it this way, the people that have it are
supposed to have it but you can’t trust them.
Russ: well the army.
Tia: no, I never said that.
Russ: no you didn’t but in Russia you can’t trust the Army,
they can go either way depending on the political winds.
Tia: that’s right, any more questions?
Bonnie: I’m going to make a move to Oklahoma, do you think
that’s a good one?
Tia: that is your own choice, I’m restricted on saying what
you should and shouldn’t do but you have to weigh the
options concerning what is best for you, what is best for
your growth. Have you learned all that you need to learn in
a particular area? What do you wish to do once you get
there, where are you prepared to go? I mean there’s all
these options you have to weigh, I’m not saying that you
should or shouldn’t, what I’m saying is…..
Bonnie: well I’m going to come back and forth, it's not like
I’m just going to stay there.
Bonnie: plus I have business deals with Skip.
Tia: uh-huh, okay so in other words you’ve already made up
your mind on what you wish to do.
Bonnie: well mostly.
Bonnie: not positive.
Bonnie: I’m never positive until I do it.
Tia: uh-huh but there’s also the thing to remember is your
spiritual growth and I think that hold on, I’m having
something whispered in my ear here.
Bonnie: oh, oh.
Tia: uh-huh, okay yes that your spiritual growth would
benefit from the connection in Oklahoma.
Bonnie: hmm, that’s good.
Tia: uh-huh, I believe there's something to do with a
buffalo in that area as well.
Bonnie: I have a white buffalo as a guide.
Tia: uh-huh, but it has something to do…….
Bonnie: remember that time I brought it in with me?
Tia: uh-huh, but what…..
Bonnie: and Ashtar said, "what’s the white buffalo doing in
Tia: yeah but what I’m saying is that there is in that
particular area certain indigenous ancestral groups that
have quite powerful properties.
Tia: I’m trying to think of the correct earth terminology.
Tia: yeah I suppose you’d call them Shaman, we'd call them
priestesses where I come from.
Bonnie: we call them Shamans.
Tia: uh-huh, the priestly class.
Tia: okay, I’ve got to put on the next
person…..(Sighs)…..the ring mistress gets told what to do,
this is not fair.
(Omal takes over from Tia.)
greetings and felicitations.
John: greetings Omal.
(Everyone says hi.)
please do an introduction for me.
Russ: well Omal, you already know Skip of course.
Russ: and this is Bonnie, the young lady next to him….
Russ: and then Larry.
John: and I’m Johnny, I'm the man who.......
John: acknowledged your presence
let us get down to questions and answers.
Russ: oh I’m opening the floor up to the guests……no please,
feel free. Okay well I guess it’s…..
I was about to say, do not all speak at once.
gets everybody laughing.)
Russ: well now Tia was mentioning the problems in Russia
Russ: and how they relate to us……well not how do they relate
to us but what’s going on. Now what I’m asking is, how do
they relate to us for example, is this something to keep an
eye on in the future as a potential threat to world peace or
is just something that is more of a local issue?
without stepping in too many gray areas, the best bet would
be to watch what is going on carefully. You might not have
heard it on your popular press, in fact I think it is very
unlikely that you would’ve heard it on your popular press.
Russ: no it was in the popular press actually, Mark got it
and showed it to me I think.
yes but you have not heard it on your Fox Network
or NBC or CNN or ACB or any of those other networks. I do
not even believe that it has been in your newspapers. The
only places I’ve seen it in are the Sunday Times (United
Kingdom), Le Figaro which is a French newspaper,
Itar Tass which is a Russian newspaper where it was only
briefly reported and a few other European newspapers such as
Pravda and a few German newspapers. Now the question should
be why has
it not being mentioned in your United States newspapers?
Russ: hmm, good question.
or on the communication devices?
Russ: I don’t know.
John: why? That’s my question, why is it not?
I feel that it is not being mentioned for the simple reason
that the infrastructure of your news agencies is more
concerned with the flamboyant activities of political
figures. They are more concerned with what you might call
brushfire wars and making people feel sorry for other
people. Something as serious as this is not being mentioned
because it is not perceived as entertaining and they do not
wish to alarm people over something that they feel is
unimportant. This is a big mistake, it is something that is
John: okay now is it the media that you’re speaking of or is
it the government, our government suppressing this
if your government was suppressing it, it would not be in
such news formats as the Times, Figaro or even
it is your media that is suppressing it.
John: thank you.
next questions please.
Russ: go ahead guys.
let me pick somebody at random.
in the middle.
Skip: no that’s you.
on the seat of three in the middle.
I was asking Tia about Oklahoma, I was going to go to
Oklahoma, my children are there, my grandchildren are
Bonnie: and I was just wondering if it's a good move, good
for my business…..
what nation are they?
Bonnie: Indian nation.
yes but which one? I believe there are many different….
Bonnie: while there’s 64 nations there, it's Cherokee
yes, very spiritual race if my memory serves me correct.
Bonnie: right, very much yes.
phone rings but the conversation has been removed.)
okay, let us continue. Yes it is, it is a spiritual growth
which you may find useful. As Tia stated, we cannot say
whether you should or you shouldn’t but it is necessary to
realize that a spiritual growth is something that will lead
to other things. I believe it is in a open area where there
is a lot of flat lands?
Bonnie: yes, very flat lands.
yes, at one time that was part of an inland sea, I should
say approximately 80,000 of your years ago.
so there are lots of interesting things and energies that
have been deposited by water which is why your particular
nation is attracted to that area.
so it is necessary to feel the energy that when you go back
Bonnie: I do feel it when I go back there......well besides
that I enjoy the people more.
yes they are……well it is your family.
Bonnie: oh yes.
it is a feeling of being at one with the land.
it is something that the particular races of that area have
an affinity for is protecting their land......
and the land is very key and important to them.
you not being of a race that was descended or a nation that
was descended from a mountainous area, you tend to feel a
little bit at loss in an area that is mountainous.
you feel trapped and restricted by having so many trees.
This in itself can manifest itself in other ways, ways that
are negative. The fear of being trapped within, sometimes
people will seek a retreat. Once you are back in an area
where you can spiritually develop as you are supposed to,
then you become more even and maintain a level keel and
therefore are not attracted to the negative sides of life as
it were. You do not look for a retreat from what is, you
tend to be able to look more towards it and go, “okay, I do
not need to retreat, I can stand here and let it come on and
experience and feel the manifestations and the power of the
ground." That I see as good but also being able to overcome
these fears and retreating within yourself from the fears of
the trees and the mountains and an area that you’re not
Bonnie: hmmm, thank you.
you’re welcome. Next, or do I have to pick a
Bonnie: pick a victim, pick him over here,
I believe you want to talk to somebody on a technical nature
Larry: you’re speaking to me?
Larry: not necessarily. I do believe however that what I
would like to have you do is expand on the differences if
you will between your perception of, for instance in
Bonnie’s case, the differences between mountainous areas and
flatland areas and what you would perceive as relates
to my perception of that or my acceptance of that.
okay the mountainous area I’m referring to is obviously this
area here within the limits of the Sierra Madre’s, is that
correct, the correct name of the mountains?
Larry: that’s the correct name.
and the Bitterroot Mountains, from those over there to the
far ones over…..that have the fault system that runs
underneath of the Carson Valley and up. Sometimes people
have a difficulty with the spiritual nature of such
a different vibrational frequency. It is like on an
oscilloscope, you have a low-frequency that has deep troughs
and then you have a very high frequency that is very short,
sharp troughs that are almost a flat line. Now the spiritual
nature of somebody that is born and raised in a flat
area is that of a very high frequency that has very few
troughs and valleys, very much like the area that they're
somebody that has very deep troughs and very deep spiritual
vibrations have as the surrounding area high peaks
and low peaks of great depth. A spiritual difference makes
it hard for a person to adjust to an area. Some people do it
very well, others do not. This occurs because the spiritual
development is difficult sometimes, they have lessons that
they need to learn to overcome within the areas that they
send themselves to such as this area and I believe Bonnie
has had some difficulties adjusting in the past.
how this relates to you, I believe you are from an area that
is in a valley
bowl to the South of here I believe or South,
and you have a I would say more of a spiritual level
that is flat but rises up at the end of the note so it is
more of a gradual climb like the area that you were raised
so you have the ability to be able to adjust to whatever surroundings
you are in and this can be used to help other people that
have either a low vibrational frequency or a high
vibrational frequency and the fact that you have
both low going towards high or the opposite way around
sorry, high going towards low with the deep troughs and
the high peaks means that it is easier for you to match and
adjust your soul notes. I believe in the past we have
discussed soul notes and being able to match. Larry has the
ability because of his variation in soul notes to do
this so it is helpful to be able to direct somebody by using
your adjustments in soul notes to match theirs.
Larry: thank you.
you’re welcome, Skip?
Skip: yes, I’ve got a problem.......quit. (Bonnie had been poking
yes I see your problem.
Bonnie: now now.
Skip: I don’t know if I was born in the flatlands or in the
I know I was raised between the flatlands and the mountains.
Idaho I believe, correct?
Skip: no, no Montana.
Skip: part of it, the other part was Midwest Ohio and that’s
right down to the ground.
yes, it doesn’t quite go down to sea level I believe.
Skip: not quite but it’s pretty close.
the Montana Badlands springs to mind for some reason.
Skip: no it’s in the Rocky Mountains….
ahh, you would be from the area that is called I cannot
think of its name but it’s very high, craggy peaks........Russ?
no not the Cascades.
Skip: no it’s the Rocky Mountains Omal.
yes but there is a particular area that is…
Russ: the Great Divide?
no, it is not quite the Great Divide. Oh well never
mind, it will come to me. But the fact that you have spent
so much time in this area would give you a clue with your
deductive ability. It is not as quite as craggy and
pinnacally as the young mountains that are rising in that
Skip: well I’ve always made the comment, ”I’d rather shovel
what does that tell you?
Skip: I like the mountains better than I do the flatlands.
which tells you what?
Skip: I don’t know, I'm comfortable here.
the vibrational frequencies, you have that deep note
vibrational frequency which leads me to believe that you are
more comfortable in this environment.
so therefore you have the vibrational notes of somebody
that is born and raised in a mountainous area but there are
the tendencies in there for the lower troughs as well which
makes me think that it wasn’t as bigger peaks and troughs,
it may have been in the foothills of that area. Does that
Skip: yeah, thank you.
okay, back to our wayward, wandering monk over here.
gets Skip laughing.)
Russ: are we on a particular subject or am I…… can I wander
Skip: ask around, wander wherever you want to.
Russ: working on shielding…….
Russ: okay? And I want to get a little information on
various details of shielding and how to work with it a
example, if I want to block something out to the maximum
extremes that I can okay?
Russ: I’m going to lay in a single shield and
start it rotating one direction.
Russ: put a mirror finish on it.
Russ: start another two, both rotating in opposite
directions from the first one…
Russ: well no the third one would be on the same
direction as the first one and the one in the middle would
be in an opposite direction.
yes I understood what you meant.
I’d have the three layered shields on top of that. Now each
of the first two layered shields have little bumps on it
Russ: points and then the last would have like a static
yes which is basically a hissing sound that you project from
Russ: correct. Now when I’m working with this……..okay the
first question I got is, to increase power on the shields if
necessary, do I increase energy output from myself or do I
draw it from around me to strengthen it?
you would have to project from outside, you would have to
project to it because you create the shields and you have to
project to it. You would be able to suck in energy until you
were sealed in. If you were using dome shields as opposed to
spherical shields, spherical shields protect your feet as
well as your head so therefore if you are creating shields
and your isolated from the ground totally, how can you
therefore suck energy in? If you suck energy in, what is
Russ: you’re basically opening up your shields.
Russ: okay, the first three are spherical and the last three
Russ: now, so if you’re projecting energy out, you only have
a limited supply of energy before you start wearing down.
Russ: therefore your shielding only has a limited amount
Russ: correct. Now how do you get around that, is there a
way to do so?
no, apart from building up your stamina and reserves.
Russ: oh, so practice.
yes, that is what we have said in the past.
Russ: correct. Okay, my next question is concerning bending
the dome shield to bring it into a point that you want to
conform it to.
Russ: now the dome shields are normally solid but that
sometimes isn’t a functional form. Can you instead go ahead
then and bring it in to closer to your inner shields and bend
the domes around and still have them work efficiently?
you can have whatever shape you wish as a shield as we have
stated in the past, a dome shield works best because you
apply pressure to one point and it is spread evenly over the
Russ: I see, so it’s best to keep the domes as domes….
Russ: not to warp them at all. You can warp
your spherical shields as much as you want…..
Russ: the dome shields maintain those levels of….
yes, that is the easiest form to produce.
Russ: hmm, okay thank you.
John: ahh yes, you touched…..we touched on the photon belt,
John: I don’t like to use the term belt since you corrected
me on that okay? I’d like to touch on that subject again and
with our planet passing through this photon cloud, is it going to
react with the outer atmosphere? Especially I’m concerned
with the outer atmosphere of the planet and the magnetic
field and the reaction.
there will be an increase in aurora borealis and the aurora
borea australis. These would be the only positive
manifestations, an increase in interactivity with solar
activity will make for some certainly spectacular Northern
and Southern lights but other manifestations? No not really.
John: is that in direct reaction with the ionosphere?
no it is more the magnetic field of the planet.
John: but isn’t the magnetic field and the ionosphere
similar as far as their…..aren’t they directly related or am
the ionosphere is part of the chemical makeup of the planet.
It is the outer atmosphere that holds a little bit of oxygen
but not very much and other chemicals possibly ozone and so
on. So the ionosphere is more part of the planet’s
self-cleaning mechanism. It is maintained its shape by the
magnetic field of your planet so the magnetic field does
play a little, small part in the ionosphere but not much. It
is just holding it in place.
question……….................................okay as I have
to depart soon, I will take one question from each of you
please. Let us start at the far end and work our way back
Russ: that’s you Skip.
John: that’s you Skip.
Russ: I’m pretty close to him see.
the far end.
Skip: I’m out of it tonight for some reason or another. I
don't know what to ask you tonight Omal, my mind's running a hundred
miles an hour.
I do not know what you wish to know.
Skip: well that’s it, I don’t have any questions……
Skip: my mind's just…..
okay young lady?
Bonnie: I’m trying to think of something myself. I don’t have anything
to ask either.
okay, young man?
Larry: well thank you for the compliment.
you are young compared to myself.
Bonnie: how old are you?
put it this way, I remember watching the Northern
lights in a land that no longer exists on your planet due to
the fact that it is…..well it does exist but not as I recall
it. It is now high peaks.
Bonnie: I do have a question on something.
Bonnie: okay let’s see…..
Skip, please fill the young lady in on the joke.
Skip: no that’s okay, go ahead.
Bonnie: well I guess I missed something along the way, I
haven’t been here in at least a year.
as you are new, I will let it slide on your case.
well thank you.
Bonnie: the Navajos believe that they were descended from
Bonnie: they do….
Bonnie: yes. I've read a book on that, I was just
wondering, it did make sense to me. It’s called, the book is
called “My Ancestors are Alien” and what is
the answer is yes.
Bonnie: I thought so.
okay young man, Larry.
Larry: can you be specific as relates to answers if there is
a specific question?
yes but not on a personal nature and not if it is interferes
with the growth and development of individuals or your
planet or of a technical nature that would give a edge in
Larry: okay, I’ll try to be as general as I possibly
okay, you may have noticed that some of my answers and
answers of other individuals tend to be a little bit vague
and generalized. We cannot tell you for example how to build
engine. We cannot tell you to do something, you have to come
to that decision yourself. We cannot tell you what is going
to happen to you tomorrow........proceed.
Larry: if I were to make a major move in my life, could I
presume that the result of a major move in my life
could be extremely positive?
yes there is that potential, it depends on how major.
Sometimes the necessary upheaval for a major change
is an experience that is a learning experience which will
throw you on a path that at first will seem wrong and bad
and things will not go according to plan because you are not
fully adjusted for such a radical change but over a
period of time the necessary struggle in the early stages, the
difficulties and so on would make you stronger if you
stick to the path. If you say to yourself, “this is too
hard, I cannot do this” and back down, then you have not
achieved what you wish to do. People often make the mistake
of charging into something and then saying, "this is too
hard" and not finishing or following through. Some of the
hardest advances or the most wonderful advances needed a lot
of work, a lot of trying and trying and trying until they
achieved their goal. An example is the Manhattan project. Up
to the first initial test of the atomic bomb, they did not
know what the atomic bomb would really do. Whether the chain
reaction that would be caused, whether it would stop once
the fuel had been expelled or if it would continue and keep
on going and use up other fuels creating a nonstop chain
reaction. They were pretty certain that that would not
happen but they weren’t sure that it would happen.
Fortunately it did not happen, obviously everybody is still
the chain reaction stopped once the fuel had been expended.
major change in one’s life is a little bit like that. You do
not know for certain what the end results will be but, like
the atomic bomb, the end result could be very beneficial if
you stick to the path. After all, the atomic bomb has
you electricity, it has given you ways of curing
cancers and a major change is like this. From a struggle
that is hard and sometimes very difficult, as long as you
follow through, it will achieve the goal that you wish.
Sometimes better than you wish.
Larry: thank you.
John: yeah I want to touch on the photon cloud again just to
help to clarify it for my mind and the relationship of the
our solar system passing through the photon cloud along with
our planetary magnetic field along with the ionosphere as
being……let's see, I don’t want ask too many questions, how
many push-ups am I going to get out of this?
you were asked to ask one question, for each extra question
price is ten
for each question.
John: okay, well did I ask one or two or three?
no, you haven’t asked any yet.
John: I haven’t asked any yet. Okay, I’d like to know the
relationship between our planet passing through the photon
belt and the reaction with the ionosphere and the magnetic
field and the whole correlation and how it interacts with
worded very well to get maximum effect out of one question……
laughter breaks out.)
John: you’ve taught me very well Sir and…….
that was most certainly a scramble to ask one question but
leave it wide open to have it answered very deeply.
Basically in essence what is going to happen is that the
ionosphere and the magnetic field will continue to react in
the way that it has done in the past. However, the intereaction
between the photon cloud and the sun will heat the
ionosphere which will react with the magnetic field causing
huge sparks, more commonly referred to as the Northern
lights. This will put on bursts of energy being displayed
in a myriad of different colors that will be visible lower
than is normally seen. There may be even instances or a
instance of lucky individuals looking to the North
and seeing the Northern lights and then turning and
looking to the South and seeing Northern
lights but these will be people in the mid-latitudes, nearer
to the equator than the Tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The
chemical reaction with the heating of the ionosphere
interacting with the magnetic field and the photon cloud
will create these flashes of brief energy. My projections
are that there will only be one major reaction and those
lucky individuals will be in for a treat that will not be
seen again for many thousands of years. The ions in the
ionosphere are basically bumping and rubbing and creating
the necessary chemical reactions for the clouds to generate
the charge necessary for these flashes of energy. In return,
you’ll be treated to as I said a spectacular
Russ: okay, this will be a little bit long also. On the
Internet I had a conversation with a lady who sent me
Russ: she is a avid reader of Tuella.
Russ: the unacknowledged scribe of Ashtar Command......
and in it she says that the evacuation of the planet from
Ashtar Command due to the upcoming pole shift is a fact and
since I am basically saying no, that’s not can happen in our
lifetimes, I’m basically the antichrist at that point.
Russ: and well because, I’m quoting you.
Russ: now I told her that no, what actually is going to
happen is the only evacuation will be our ascendancy to
sixth dimension which is as you’ve said will take place due
to apparent accidents which……
Russ: in which a person ascends to a higher
dimension but their third dimensional body is still left
Russ: and the fact that well no,
going to be anything like a pole shift in our
lifetime but I can’t really be able to prove it or anything
until the time actually comes.
Russ: how do I deal with people like that?
okay, now the problem stems from the fact of the scribe. The
scribe has sat in on meetings, Tuella…..
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Pausing for the
change, Omal picks up where he
Omal: Tuella likes to
indulge in gossip and has sat in on meetings.
if I ever get this out, enjoys listening to
reporting gossip. The best way to
describe Tuella is, yes she does have some facts and
information, yes she has sat in on Council meetings,
yes she does record what is said but she does love to
gossip and she does love to listen to rumors and rumors and
half informations that are reported. For example, a
discussion that was held many years ago on if there was a
problem on your planet, how would it be handled and what
would be necessary to deal with it. The option of a mass
evacuation was discussed. That was thought upon and recently
decided that it would not work due to the fact of the sheer
size of the population that would be necessary to evacuate.
For example, you have a population on your planet of close
to eight billion people, where would we put them?
How would we transport them? How would they handle being in
such a confined area where you may have one or two
million confined to an area of no more than maybe five
miles, very cramped and uncomfortable for them. So what do
you do? Obviously you cannot evacuate that kind of number.
Do we let people die? Well we cannot make that
decision, that is something that must be left up to them so
therefore a mass evacuation would present a problem. How you
deal with individuals that have had this information given
to them is that you smile and you say, “well certainly you
have heard information that does have a lot of merit to it
but it is a matter of time and logistics to see what will
actually occur.” And by answering in such an ambiguous way,
you appease them a little bit. They read into what they hear
what they wish to hear. For example, if you say that it is a
matter of time and logistics on the amount of necessary
individuals that are evacuated, you’re being vague and
ambiguous. So therefore you do not give a straight answer
but you have told them what they wish to hear even though
you haven’t told him anything. People that listen to things
without looking for what is really said and looking at
things deeper tend to not see things fully. They tend
to see things that they wish to see. You cannot please
people like that and it is "oh well they have their path to
walk." That is the best way to deal and handle with those
people. Thank you.
Russ: thank you.
John: thank you very much.
thank you all for coming, I will now depart as I have a
Council meeting to go.
Skip: thank you.
live long, prosper and I’ll be back.
John: yeah we appreciate your time, thank you.
Skip: hi sweetheart.
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)
Tia: oh my, Mark’s nose is totally stuffed up, it’s totally
John: you want something to blow his nose with?
Tia: no, it will clear. Okay, questions.
Tia: where did everybody go?
John: they left.
was all that barking about with the dogs?
know. I...there seems to
be some kind of activity that was going on on the street
John: but I really couldn’t be honest with the logistics.
Tia: okay, we’re going to put on the technical expert as
somebody is getting fidgety. Yeah!!!! Technical
(Kiri slides into the channeling field as
Kiri: yo dudes.
John: hey, is that you Kiri?
Kiri: now who starts off with yo dudes?
Kiri: yes, it’s me, technical questions.
John: I wanted to make sure.
Kiri: was somebody reading my page earlier on?
Skip: was somebody reading your what?
Kiri: page on the thingy out there.
John: on the Internet?
Larry: I was.
Kiri: Kiri’s manifestation, flowers, coercion….
yeah, that was Larry.
Larry: that was me.
Kiri: what else do I do? Engineering, that’s my field.
Kiri: uh-huh, okay questions, anybody.
John: all right the photon belt okay? I’ve discussed it with
you and Omal and I don’t want to dwell on this but it is a
very interesting situation that our planet is going through,
our solar system is going through......
John: and your reactions to the……will you stop smelling
Kiri: I was just touching his nose with his feet.
John: all righty then, you're throwing me off. (That gets a few
chuckles.) Okay I would like to discuss or
John: and there’s a lot of people out here that are really,
really interested in the photon belt, not just me okay? And
the spiritual ramifications of us passing through the belt.
Kiri: well what is happening basically is that the
positively charged photons are basically interacting with
your body’s auras and it’s increasing the vibrational
frequency, which is different from what was discussed
earlier on about vibrational notes, and it is bringing it
up to a higher level so that the opening of pathways for
individual’s abilities is also being affected. You bring up
the frequency right, and what happens? It brings it up
higher so therefore it’s more open, it’s more open you can
do more things. For example, my field coercion, manipulating
people to do what I want them to do or what I think is best
for them. You take a coercer that is in tune with the
surroundings and the increase in the positively charged
protons and they can do a lot more than they have done
in the past. They can manipulate people much more subtly.
Have you noticed that recently Russ?
Kiri: well you wouldn’t notice much would you? You got
your head stuck out the window. But the…….
(Everyone but Russ laughs.)
Kiri: but the photons are interacting with the energy field
that surrounds you and is making you more spiritually
John: okay thank you very much.
Kiri: okay no problem.
Kiri: you have a question, you're
sitting there very patiently…….well actually you’re sort of
like bouncing around like one of those rubber balls
that you….power balls.
Skip: I want to know something and I don’t think you give me
an answer but I want to know anyhow.
Skip: how in heck can you fuse life with how can I say this?
With inanimate objects to give off power? This engine that I
seen is driving me nuts.
Kiri: you can, you can, there is a….
Skip: uh-huh, tell me about it.
Russ: you put a hamster in a treadmill right?
Skip: what? No, no, no, this engine was moving partner and
Kiri: uh-huh, alive.
Skip: powering.........yeah it was alive.
Skip: and it
powering a ship.
now, put it this way, you take a…..I’m not quite sure what
you call them but they root around in the ground, they
snuffle a lot and they smell rotten and tend to lie
around in their own mess sometimes.
Kiri: yes thank you, that’s the word, I knew it was a
three letter word, I thought it started with H.
John: no, well hog or pig would be correct........
John: pig is what you’re using.
Kiri: okay now, what fuel does a pig give off?
Skip: so does human beings.
Kiri: correct. Now, what can you do with methane?
Skip: burn it.
Kiri: which does what?
Skip: creates heat.
Kiri: which in turn can be used for?
Skip: oh a lot of things.
Kiri: uh-huh. So you see how an organic, living being can
actually power something.
Skip: no, no.
Kiri: I know, I know, I’m taking a very, very simple…..
Skip: yeah I know what you’re doing to me, you're
leading me down the garden path is what you’re doing.
Kiri: I’m leading you to the goal.
Skip: yeah okay, go ahead.
Kiri: now let’s take the next logical step. Obviously
you would want something that takes out the middle part
right? That instead of it coming out and then being
fermented and giving off the gas, you want to take that part
out, you want to have some creature that goes from eating
something to giving off the power.
Kiri: okay, what would you do?
Skip: that’s what I’m asking you.
Kiri: I really can’t tell you without Omal turning around on
me and saying, “pack your gear, you're going home.”
Skip: what I’m trying to get at….
Skip: is I’ve seen this engine.......
Skip: and it was alive.
Kiri: yeah, yeah, I know the engine that you're
Skip: and it wasn’t stationary.
Skip: and how can you make an engine, it’s beyond my
Kiri: no it’s not.
Skip: yes it is.
Kiri: no it’s not. Okay, I need a guinea pig,
Russ, stand up.
(That gets everybody laughing.)
Russ: oh Jesus, why me all the time? What about
John: well you’re here, if she would’ve chose me I would of
Kiri: okay Russ has had fuel earlier on today.
Kiri: okay, now we’ve taken out the middle part, Russ walk.
Take a few steps, okay that will do. Okay Russ is an engine
that has just moved so you get a living engine right? I.e.
this gentleman here right? You’ve got the combustion chamber
which is the
stomach right? The energy that was the protein that he ate
earlier on has been transferred into movement.
Kiri: okay, now what you have to do is you take a……you can
sit down, you’re done. Let’s give him a big round of
claps are the only ones heard.)
Kiri: okay but basically what is happening is that you take
a entity, a being right? That you say to it, “okay you can
do this right? You can power this. In return we will
give you what you want as long as you give us what we want.”
How the engine achieves the return in favor.........for
example let’s say it needs a vessel to transport it. You
build it a vessel to take it from point A to
point B and in return for building it, let’s say you want to
go to Aldebaran right? You have to say to it, “okay we built
you this, you take us to Aldebaran and then you’re free to
go.” So you build up this relationship with this entity. You
give it food to power itself and in return it takes you
where you wish to go.
Russ: it's symbiotic.
Kiri: it’s a symbit….thank you, a symbiotic relationship
between the engine and the people that are in control of it.
Now, how it works. Basically the power source is the
excreted waste, the power stream that comes out and moves
the vessel or the engine is basically what’s left over after
it’s eaten. What it’s basically doing is instead of just
giving off a nasty order, it’s using that to achieve a goal,
it’s as simple as that. The technical side is more of a
medical thing actually that a medic would be better to
answer it than myself. I understand the basics, I understand
how it works and I understand how to repair the problem but
when it comes to the whys, I’m at a little bit at a
loss. I could
tell you exactly how it works, all the chemical reactions
and everything but again, Omal would look at me and go,
“you’re out, you’re going home" if I sat down and told you
so I’ve got to be very careful on what I say here..”
Skip: I understand dear. Okay, thank you.
Kiri: yeah no problem, any more questions?
starts to whistle after a time.)
Skip: time to go down the mountain.
Kiri: yes, I was noticing that you're get a little bit
Bonnie: he’s tired.
Kiri: okay, you guys are free to go.
Skip: thank you darling.
Kiri: you’re welcome.
Skip: good night darling.
Kiri: good night.
Russ: I’ll pause the tape.
Kiri: I’m not going to get up because there’s…..
(The tape pauses and then unpauses.)
Kiri: when Omal says jump we jump, when Omal says finish we
finish, when Omal do not answer that question, we don’t
answer it. All these channeling sessions go before Omal’s
analyze it and anything that they think might be harmful
goes before Omal, he reviews it and decides.
For example, if I was to sit down and tell you to
do this and to do that and it got before Omal and
Omal looked at it and said, “this is bad, Kiri has broken
certain rules and ethics.”, then I would be bound to
obey what Omal’s decision is. If he said that I was not to
channel ever again, then I would not channel ever again. If
John: what kind of punishment are you looking at, are you
looking at the possibility.......
Kiri: oh no,
John: if you give me more information than
what you’re supposed to okay? I mean is Omal going to ban you
from channeling with us, for helping us?
Kiri: I don’t think…..I don’t think…..
would be repeated problems.
Russ: for example, let’s say she gives me or as she has done
before technical information that slipped out.
John: right, right.
Russ: now what happens is Karra, who controls my every
features will basically deny me the ability to put that on
to a webpage or be able to reproduce that in any way…..
Russ: because Omal will say do this and Karra will say okay.
John: okay, so if I’m understanding you correctly, if Kiri
gives you more information than she should okay?
John: and you try and put that information on the Internet,
Karra will intervene and stop you from putting on that
Russ: oh no, she would basically blank out my mind.
Kiri: yeah, she will stop Russ from putting it down.
Russ: I would forget all about that information, I won’t
have any recollection of the fact that it was mentioned.
John: what if it’s on tape?
Russ: what if I can’t find it?
Kiri: tapes have gone missing.
that’s where the missing tapes come in.
Russ: what if I have no inclination to find it? What if I
look for it and I get bored and I don’t want to look for it
Kiri: yeah, certain suggestions are made.
Russ: what if I come across it by accident? Well there are no
John: okay, this is new to me and excuse me and I
don’t think there’s no such thing as a foolish question if
you know what I mean.
Kiri: no but I’m not looking at any reprimand or anything at
this time. I’ve just been told by Omal in a meeting a couple
days ago that I just had to be careful of what I said, that
some things I have said in the past have led down certain
paths which are not best walked at this time. There is an exemption
and that’s Skip because we're trying to trip his cascading.
I have to lead him very, very carefully. I've
been told that I can lead him but to watch what I say, to
word it in a way that is more his wording, it
pulls the words out of him.
John: now when you’re interacting with Skip okay? I didn’t
ask the question directly, Russ didn’t ask the question
directly but your response to this man when I’m in
this room, I hear what you’re saying......
John: okay? And don’t you agree that it could have the same
response with me as it does with him? It doesn’t matter who
asks the question, it matters how well you listen.
Kiri: yes listening is important but Skip does have
a problem that neither of you do. Skip is experiencing his
first life on your planet, that’s why he’s having the
problems that he’s having. We’re trying to ease him
into that transition. What we’re trying to do is lead him in
a particular way but not tell him that he should do that, we
leave the options open but we’re saying, “okay, you want to
access this information, this is how you do it.” We’re not
saying, “okay, this is how you access the information, we're going to
show you how to actually pull out the information and in
doing so you will experience the information.” We’re making
him do the work which is why he gets frustrated sometimes
but what is occurring is that Skip is experiencing and
creating all these new karmic connections and he is
learning. You’re fortunate that you’ve been around for quite
a while on your planet.
Kiri: Russ is quite fortunate that he’s been around…….
John: yes, both of us, both Russ and I have been around
for a long time.
Kiri: yeah, the best analogy is that this is a school. Skip
is new to your school so therefore the new kid has to be
shown around as it were.
John: but I mean excuse me but even though Russ and I have
been around okay?
Kiri: and the new kid on the block
so to speak okay asks a question, well I don’t care who asks
John: the information is usually quite pertinent.
Kiri: that’s correct.
John: and quite informative.
John: so if Russ asks a question or if Skip asks a question,
it doesn’t change anything. I mean it doesn’t make my
question more important or less important…
John: but I listen and learn from the answers that you give.
Kiri: well that’s good, that’s good. It’s important to
listen. I mean we learn a lot of information or rather those
people sitting outside the pyramid up here learn a lot of
information by listening to what’s going on. For example,
Karra is sitting over there very quietly listening intently.
In fact I better put her on in a minute.
John: yeah she hasn’t been in tonight.
Kiri: and then Tia is sitting at the other end listening
very intently and learning and then Teen is learning a lot
at the moment as she’s counting her toes and manipulating
the equipment and taking care of something else but
she is listening and learning. And I better hop out and put
on Karra as we are running short on time.
John: okay so Karra’s coming?
Kiri: she is on next
(The tape is paused.)
(The tape is
unpaused and Karra begins to channel.)
okay, let us proceed.
Russ: well how did my shields hold up tonight? That was a
hard lesson, hard test, worked me over.
you need practice as Omal pointed out.
Russ: I need stamina practice, I mean that is going to come
with time but I mean on….
the constant pounding?
Russ: yeah and then finally it took me to layered shields to
get finally that out of the way......
Russ: but I was a little shocked that I had to go to that
level, I mean was he like working me over a little extra
yes he was, I believe I caught a whiff of alcohol.
Russ: on Omal?
no, not on Omal.
Russ: oh, me?
John: on me?
no, I’m referring to something earlier on that you might not
have noticed Russ.
Russ: oh no I didn’t.
no when we were over setting the skis.
Russ: oh you mean the beer?
Russ: what, did he think that it would diminish my
just a little.
Russ: well it was a good test, it didn't diminish them.
Russ: slower reaction time possibly.
yes but in a situation that you are in that you needed
shielding and the fact that you had slowed things down by
imbibing the alcohol when you needed them the most, even
though it was out of politeness, you have to weigh the good
with the bad.
Russ: well so in the most optimal sense to imbibe but be
able to maintain capabilities, that’s good practice too so
get like a case of beer and practice…..
(John starts laughing.)
Russ: drink some beer, practice my shields......just
we’ll deal with that later......okay.
John: all right so, it is my understanding or
misunderstanding with this conversation right here that
alcohol or drug use would limit your shielding abilities.
yes it does and the focusing ability of shielding.
John: okay so you’re not able to focus as well….
John: and that in turn makes your shielding ability less
correct. The situation that you should try is getting Mark
to coerce you when you’ve been drinking heavy and you’ll see
the difference. Mind you that’s hardly a fair test is it?
John: well I mean I like the idea of Mark testing me when I
haven’t been drinking heavily you know?
John: but maybe of had a couple of beers okay? Which isn't
too uncommon in my life. I mean you’re well aware….
yes I’m well aware of…..
John: yeah I know but I’m not pulling any punches or trying
to deceive anyone by any means but I feel more comfortable
challenging Mark under the influence of some alcohol and let
him try and break down my shields okay and my shielding
ability okay? Now you’re suggesting that I should do this
when I’m blind drunk?
no I’m not saying that when you’re blind drunk….
Russ: she means to see the two sides of it.
yes exactly, to see both how you react with the quickness in
protecting yourself from a coercive or coercive coercer when
you have been drinking a few drinks and when you haven’t had
Russ: like that test where you drink and go drive but then
you drink a whole lot more and then you go to drive.
Russ: well which is worse?
John: all right I just wanted to understand.
Russ will tell you that when Mark fully powers up….
he’s quite impressive as a coercer when he powers up,
especially for a third dimensional coercer.
Russ: now Karra….
Russ: it seemed to me when I was over there, I did not pick
up any need for heavy shielding, not like what I'd get with
Omal when he’s testing me….
Omal wasn't testing you.
Omal was not testing you.
Russ: oh well he was certainly working on me.
I think he was just powered up.
Russ: oh, that could be it.
yeah, he’s gone to a Council meeting.
Russ: ahh, but over there I can generally tell if someone’s
trying to drain me or someone’s trying to coerce me….
Russ: or something like that and I can then up my shields if
I need to but from what I recognized it as is my natural
shielding was holding up just fine in that situation.
yes but you have to control the controller, you see what I’m
Russ: hmm, I see what you’re talking about.
uh-huh, the best person to have asked would’ve been Kiri if
she wasn't dealing with a nice cut on her arm. (Caused by
Tia during a paused period on the tape when Kiri made a joke
Russ: well, I think you’re doing fine darling..
yes, Tia actually went when she made comments about using
cats has a sled team, Tia went like that and her claws came
Russ: well, touchy subject.
uh-huh, I don’t think she meant to actually penetrate.
John: but she did cut her by accident?
uh-huh, quite a nice clean-cut actually but deep.
Russ: how’s the guy with the concussion?
he’s doing fine.
Russ: oh good.
John: alrighty, can we talk some more or are you running
well I was about to help Teen over there who’s busy cleaning
Russ: so professional courtesy and all.
John: okay, I mean I just had a question or two in mind.
okay quick question, quick question.
John: I mean that’s okay, if you need to go.
no, no, no, no, no.
John: about coercion….
John: and utilizing that art, that science….
John: okay? Now can we use it on this dimension as well as
you use it on your dimension?
I do not coerce, I am not a coercer.
John: you don’t utilize that technique at all?
I do not coerce, I do not have the ability developed to
coerce. I am a healer, I fix people up but......
John: yeah, I know you're a healer…..
hold on, hold on, hold on, don't stop me please.
John: okay, I’m sorry.
okay, people on your planet have all the abilities within
them, whether or not they are developed is the point. For
example, there are people that can control other
Karra: everybody can control everybody else from time to
time. Children control their parents, lovers control each
other but somebody that can control everybody whenever they
want to is a coercer. Somebody that can heal anybody when
they want to is a healer. Somebody that can create anything
when they want to is a manifestor. Somebody that can leave
their body whenever they want to is an astral traveler.
Somebody that leaves their body from time to time and
doesn’t know where they’re going, it just happen is not an
astral traveler. Somebody that can manipulate and control
somebody from time to time is not a coercer. Somebody that
can make somebody better from time to time is not a healer.
Somebody that can create something from time to time is not
a manifestor. I can control people from time to time, I can
control Russ from time to time, Russ controls me from time
to time but I would like to see Russ control Kiri, that’s a
coercer. You cannot coerce a coercer unless the coercer is
distracted or is…..
Russ: wants to be coerced.
correct. So to answer your question, I do not coerce. You
can coerce but that is part of your makeup. Whether you can
coerce whenever you want to whoever you want to opens up to
whether or not you can coerce.
Russ: Jack’s a coercer, you can always tell.
Russ: I’m not coercer but I can coerce.
uh-huh, have you seen Mark coerce Jack?
Russ: yeah, I think they’re both pretty equally matched in
at some points but I think Mark has the subtality developed,
he’s not so blatant.
Russ: no, Jack’s blatant.
uh-huh, Mark is much more subtle and makes the person think
that it’s their idea. Jack is about as subtle as a
sledgehammer on a walnut. Okay, I’ve got to go and patch up
Russ: bye Karra, thank you love.
John: yeah, you go fix her up.
John: thank you, appreciate it.
(Tia ends the night after having savaged Kiri.)
John: and it looks like Tia.
Russ: you’ve got to watch those things baby, file
them down to a nice….
Tia: she moved at the same time as I struck out.
Russ: well yeah but you struck out with claws.
Tia: it was an accident, it’s an honest accident, she moved
Russ: if it was the first time I would say, "oh bummer."
Tia: oh I’ve given her worse but the fact that she moved and
continued moving once I’d penetrated was what shocked
me. She tried…..she should’ve stopped and pulled away but
she carried on moving in and looking at me as if it was sort
of "just you dare."
John: now couldn’t you have touched her and kept your nails
in as you……?
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