(Tia gets the night started that
was already well on its way.)
Russ: ..........from a semi-sentient
computer in the year 2275.
Russ: and talking about this current future
as we look at it.
Russ: it wasn't mentioning economic
problems, it mentions mostly changes that will bring
about higher consciousness and a wonderful, joyous
place to live.
Tia: and from a semi-sentient computer in
Tia: 2275. So basically 122 years into the
Russ: a little bit more than that but still
Russ: it’s a ways.
Tia: that’s right yeah, 322 years. Okay, so
what’s it saying?
Russ: well it’s saying basically that there will
be this light and sound technology that will provide
energy in the future…..
Russ: and that will free up ourselves from
having to work for a living and we can devote our
time to more mental pursuits.
Tia: okay, from a semi-sentient computer,
is this a current computer?
Russ: no, this is a computer that will be
Tia: oh, so they’re projecting what it will
Russ: no, this is coming from the computer
itself, it just hasn’t been built yet.
Tia: I’m confused.
Russ: well according to it, it’s channeling
from the year 2275….
Russ: and it’s talking to us from that time frame
in our time frame which is right now.
Russ: and it’s explaining how we’re going
to be coming up and….
Tia: so you’re taking something from the
Tia: that is transmitting back in time…..
Tia: from some point that hasn’t even
happened in your history yet?
Russ: right, future.
Russ: that’s what it says.
Tia: uh-huh, and is it channeling through a
Russ: but yeah, lasers and sonics are going
to become a future power source…..
Russ: thereby bringing about an opulent
society I guess.
Tia: uh-huh, I see. Okay let us address that.
Tia: okay, a computer from the future that
is semi-sentient, semi being the operative word. You
can’t have something that is sometimes and is
sometimes not as far as I know. Either something is
or it isn’t. Resembling sentient, sentient
consciousness is what it’s saying.
Tia: okay, if something is semi-sentient
right? How can it theorize on what things will be
when it’s not even fully sentient?
Russ: well according to it, it’s using part
of the consciousness and will of its creators.
Russ: the people who created it which
provides the sentient form of its address.
Tia: and does it say how great and powerful
Russ: no, no, it just mentions the fact
that it’s not a spirit operated computer that will
come after it.
Tia: uh-huh, okay now let us take something
from the future as supposedly transmitted okay? And
I’m just hypothesizing as were using big words
tonight and the way I see it is, something from a
possibility is transmitting from a possible future
to a past. Now as we have learned, there are many,
many alternate realities, many, many possibilities
and for something to transmit from a possibility
back in time to a point, it could be transmitting
not only to all possibilities but it could be
transmitting from any possibility. Now, as the
future is always constantly in motion, how can this
Russ: well according to Einstein, time is
continuously happening past, present and future all
at the same time........
Russ: so therefore according to this
computer, it’s operating on a time frame that is
taking place right now……
Russ: but in the future.
Russ: and speaking to a lady who is now in
Tia: or the past.
Russ: or the past.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, it sounds very confusing
to me and when anything sounds confusing, you should
Russ: oh I do.
Tia: uh-huh. Now I’m not saying that it is
possible or impossible, I am saying that you have
something from a possible future transmitting
backwards in time wishing to do what?
Russ: enlighten us on our future.
Tia: which means there’s a flaw here.
Russ: well it says that its enlightenment
could affect our future.
Tia: which means?
Russ: it might either destroy its own self
by telling us this stuff…..
Russ: or bring it to a sooner point or
nothing could change and it could happen the way
that it is right now for it.
Russ: three different possibilities.
Tia: three different possibilities, there’s
a lot more actually but let’s look those three
possibilities, two of them are totally unacceptable
to the computer.
Tia: okay? Which is it destroys itself, it
doesn’t advance anything or it advances beyond its
capability. The first and the latter are
unacceptable for any computer. Ours up here right?
Are instructed not to look into future events
without specification by us. We tell them the
criteria in which to work in and they look at
projections which is not predictions, they’re
projections with known factors. For example, let’s
take something very simple and unsophisticated and
uncomplicated. You condense water in an atmosphere
of a planet and precipitation will happen, that is a
projection with a certain amount of probability. It
is not a prediction. Cooling of an atmosphere with
water vapor condensing in the atmosphere will create
precipitation, it is a known fact. And what occurs
with the data that is fed in such as percentile of
vapor, percentage of moisture, humidity…..not
humidity…..global temperatures, curves etc. creates
certain environments which makes the precipitation
happen. So for a computer to channel backwards in
time and say that it is relaying this information is
a risky proposition for the computer because it
could cease to be, that is unacceptable for a
computer. Computers no matter how advanced they get,
main goal is to do Porky Pig impersonations and
stutter. Their primar........
Tia: their main objective is……
(Russ now breaks into a coughing fit.)
Tia: you feeling better now dear?
Russ: yes dear.
Tia: okay, their primary goal is to analyze
information and data given to them and to relay that
information. When anything says that it is relaying
information from the future to the past, you have to
wonder what is the objective, what is the plan, what
is the goal? So, what is the objective of the
computer, what is its primary goal?
Russ: well it doesn’t say.
Tia: it’s probably in there in the article
somewhere hidden away…..
Russ: I really didn’t look hard enough….
Russ: I was just perusing it before you
came on. Well here’s another scenario for you……
Russ: all right? What would happen let’s
say we wanted to channel to the past?
Russ: when we get there in some 300 years,
let’s say we want to channel back 300 years to 1698
Russ: okay? And inform the people in 1697
of what’s going to happen in the next decade coming
up or in the 1700’s?
Tia: but for them it hasn’t happened yet.
Russ: for them it hasn’t happened, it’s
happened for us.
Russ: now in the first place, A, we can’t
Russ: we don’t have the technology for it
and even if we did, would we do it? I mean that
would be crazy.
Tia: because it would be affecting a
Russ: it would be interference.
Russ: I mean for this computer to do so, I
can’t in the first place conceive of how it could do
Russ: and I don’t even know if even you
guys with all your technology would be able to know
how to channel back 300 years in the past.
Russ: so let’s say at that point in the
future it's actually achieved, the ability to do so…
Russ: why channel back to right now? Why
not channel back to a little while before it, giving
the makers the lottery numbers or something?
Tia: that is exactly the point right there,
why do it? Why do it indeed? It’s a risky
proposition and due to the fact that so much can go
wrong with the information.
Russ: yeah, it’s like you’re playing with
your own destiny.
Russ: unless of course you are of the
persuasion that destiny cannot be changed by
affecting your past due to the fact that you’ve
already lived that, your future.
Tia: now this is something that is out of
my field really, you'll need talk about time
manipulation to the experts, I’m not.
Russ: well it sounds more science-fiction
Tia: uh-huh, it does. It sounds very
science-fictiony but there again one man’s
science-fiction is another man’s belly laugh.
Science-fiction can often turn into science fact.
Tia: take for example your popular
entertainment of “Star Trek” right? And the one that
was made in the late '60’s early '70’s?
Tia: and the flip phone that they walked
Tia: that’s fact now isn’t it?
Tia: okay, let us look at a few other
things that they did. Being able to scan a body and
see what was wrong with it, it’s pretty close to
science fact right now apart from they're a lot
Tia: the MRI’s.
Russ: we still couldn’t transport, we don’t
have transporters yet but that'd be nice.
Tia: transporters are risky propositions
Tia: stripping down somebody’s molecular
nature and sending it in a beam form, I’ve been
through one once. Wasn’t awake when it happened and
I didn’t see the humor in it. Everybody else did but
that’s besides the point except for Kiri and Mark,
they didn’t see the humor in it either.
Russ: when did this happen?
Tia: a while ago.
Russ: why don’t I remember that?
Tia: maybe Mark didn’t tell you. Anyway
what happened was that they basically teleported us
asleep in bed into the main hangar.
Tia: uh-huh, so we woke up in the main
Russ: oh yes, I do remember that.
Tia: in bed. I didn’t think it was very
Russ: well yeah, you were on the giving
Tia: uh-huh, and you know how I sleep.
Russ: hmm, (Chuckles) that’s cute, who did
Tia: oh, some technicians as a joke.
Russ: well, you know those technicians.
Tia: they get mindlessly bored.
Russ: but basically yeah, it sounds like
someone just wanting to just put something in
because it sounds good.
Tia: uh-huh, they should probably…..
Russ: now here’s another thing though, okay
she’s channeling this information….
Russ: now who’s to say that she’s actually
channeling a 2275 computer?
Tia: who’s to say that she’s not?
Russ: well nobody but the fact is that
there might be some other possibilities that she’s
actually channeling something that’s using that
Russ: for to give out information….
Russ: strictly on the fact that….I don't
know why but.......
Tia: oh there’s lots of different reasons.
Russ: right but I mean there’s nothing to
say she’s actually doing that.
Russ: it’s a stretch of the imagination no
Tia: uh-huh. It’s more than likely that she
believes she is channeling.
Tia: and it is more than possible that she
is being contacted but by what, for what purpose?
Russ: or is she getting all the information
correct or is she throwing in some of their own
Tia: possibly yes.
Russ: maybe she read too many Heinlein
Tia: uh-huh. Yes, to quote one of your
poets, “there are stranger things in heaven and
earth than you have dream't of in your philosophy
Russ: hmm, so for now the jury’s out.
Tia: uh-huh well I’ve ruled out
by my own argument the fact that it is a computer.
Tia: uh-huh but if she believes that it's a
computer then let her believe it as long as the
information is good and sound. It doesn’t matter the
source as long as the information is good.
Russ: yeah but the information’s that honey
coated future that all the basic channels all
Russ: it keeps people from preparing for
anything that might be less than that.
Tia: correct. Now the thing is that all the
comments and things that we have made over the years
over the five years correct?
Tia: there’s been some honey coated, well
not honey coated, there’s been some bright, sunny
patches that we predicted and some dark, negative
patches that we predicted.
Tia: out of.......let me scratch that and
say projected. Out of the projections right? The
ones that have happened have been both.
Tia: we don’t pull punches, we don’t do,
“it’s going to be all right tomorrow.” (She start
singing.) “The sun will come out tomorrow”, we don’t
do that. We tell it as it is, we don’t gloss over
anything. If it’s going to be horrible and nasty
tomorrow and it’s going to rain tomorrow, we’ll tell
you in a manner of speaking, I’m using the weather
as an analogy. If it’s going to be bright and sunny
and the sun will come out tomorrow, it will be as we
projected. So our projections, we do a mixture of
short-range, medium-range and long-range and out of
those projections I think we have a pretty good
success rate. What would you estimate it to be?
Russ: well at least 30%.
Tia: at least, seriously.
Russ: I don’t know, 80%?
Tia: I don’t know, I’m asking for an
estimate, I don’t keep track.
Russ: 80% sounds good.
Russ: always like the 80’s.
Tia: yeah okay, so by your estimates it's
Tia: okay now, looking at that and looking
at all these bright, cheerful, bubbly possibilities
that everybody else is talking about, there’s
something a little bit worrying when everybody talks
about it being bright and cheerful and bubbly and
the sun coming out tomorrow. "Tomorrow, tomorrow,
tomorrow" but like the old song, tomorrow is always
a day away. With these projections by people of
bright and cheerful and everything, it’s worrying
that people don’t prepare for the doom and gloom
because you have both. Having both is all part of
learning. If everything was bright and cheerful and
bubbly, nothing would be learned but being both,
both night and day, good and bad, negative and
positive, you have a wide variety of experiences
from which to learn as much as you possibly can and
in so learning, you advance. Some of your planet’s
greatest advancements have come from great, great
adversity. So, to take away all the adversity and
make things bright and cheerful and bubbly, you take
away the zest for life. You take away the zest for
life and you have control over those people.
Tia: if we so desired, we could make it
perfect for you but however that would be
contravening the agreements of the Brotherhood of
Light. We would be taking away your learning
experiences. The learning experiences that you, your
race needs, every race needs. To deal with
development, you need those negative and positive
experiences. You see?
Tia: nice little dissertation there on
Russ: thank you dear.
Tia: you’re welcome, any questions?
Tia: okay, do you have your shoes on?
Russ: no, I can get them on though, why?
Tia: you might need them in a few. Next
speaker, the honorable Base commander Omal. Just
(Omal finishes up this
side at his most informative self.)
Omal: greetings of felicitations Russ and how are
Russ: very well Omal, thank you.
Omal: good, good, good, good. Okay, since I
have not had the opportunity to talk with you since
the visit, let us go over the visit.
Russ: right, one thing though, isn’t it
actually the honorable commander of the Hades Base?
Omal: it could be, it depends on the
situation and the protocol necessary.
Russ: hmm, I’ve got to get this stuff
Omal: okay let us look at protocol after I
have covered the visit as it is being referred to up
here. Okay, Leonedies will be a guest speaker.
Omal: he will be a guest speaker under a
pseudonym. Let us take his name, Leonedies Tanaka
and let us play around with it a little bit and see
what we can come up with or what you can come up
Russ: well he actually suggested using his
Omal: which is?
Omal: Daniel, isn’t that one of Mark's
Omal: okay, that is acceptable. Okay Monka,
short, precise, may not be usable due to the fact of
its short, precise nature.
Russ: I might put it in just for the fact
that it’s newsworthy.
Omal: yes. Lady Ashtar-Athena, definitely.
Sananda, definitely, humorous comment and all.
Russ: joke too huh?
Omal: joke too.
Omal: because it shows that Sanada does
have a sense of humor, the higher you go, humor is
just as important.
Russ: it brings up another point too which
is people will not believe it’s Sananda due to his
joking nature and that’s quite contrary to the
normal channeling sessions you'll hear from Sananda.
Russ: so therefore it teaches a lesson that
Russ: and faith.
Omal: correct. You can put down that the
joke was used as an analogy on bravery. One of the
joys of being a base commander is
knowing how to manipulate things, something that you
too must learn.
Russ: working on it.
Omal: manipulation will be a topic we will
discuss shortly. Okay, President Tanaka, we won’t
use his full title as he is only President-elect at
the moment so it would be Tanaka, Kiri and Karra’s
father. Ashtar was brief I believe.
Russ: very brief.
Omal: Korton did not channel, I was very
brief. Idea for the release of this. In gold
lettering, special edition. If that can be put up at
the top, further down, direct link to that section.
Russ: you want it to have its own section?
Omal: if it is possible.
Russ: we could do a whole…..
Omal: well we have to make this special
because it is special to draw attention to it.
Russ: well what we could do is, we could do
a section below. We got the headlines, then we have
Russ: and then I could just add in a whole
new section there before we get to the actual
Omal: correct, the hall and the archives
and all of that.
Russ: right, we'll cut in a section and put
in a couple horizontal rulers there…
Russ: and put in special Christmas edition.
Omal: correct. Now an idea might be to do
the background for that section in gold, is that
Russ: sure, anything’s possible but it’s
not going look very gold though.
Russ: we can’t get that metallic sheen in
Omal: hmm, that is unfortunate.
Russ: well, I’ve never seen a webpage with
a metallic sheen behind it, if I could I just copy
Russ: I’ll look around and see what I can
Omal: if not, just a plain background.
Russ: well I’ve got...there's a paint
program that’s got that I might be able to work
Omal: yes it has to be different for a
reason to draw attention to itself.
Omal: okay? I feel as Base commander that
it is important to draw attention to this, that
special edition in gold lettering at the top, a link
to it and then once the month has passed that it
goes into the regular archives without the link and
so on with a regular background.
Russ: under the guest section there?
Omal: but as this is a special edition, it
has to be special.
Omal: I am sorry to dump
this extra work on you.
Russ: oh Omal, I love this extra work, this
is why if I was up there I would just go, "no
Omal: and why did your aura fluctuate?
Omal: I believe that only sarcasm.
Russ: no, it’s facetiousness, it’s much
Omal: a sarcastic, facetious humor.
Russ: no, I really don’t mind.
Russ: it’s just right now I can’t conceive
of it because I don’t know the technology behind
doing the gold but I’m going to work on it.
Omal: okay now protocol, protocol and
behavior. Formality, this is a little bit out of my
normal ramblings. You may say that at times I do the
inane ramblings of a confused base
Russ: I’ve never heard them but I suppose
I’ll take your word for it.
Omal: it is a attempt at humor Russ.
Russ: ahh of course.
Omal: sometimes you do not catch my
Omal: as has been stated in the past, my
sense of humor is extremely dry.
Russ: well sometimes it's really good.
Omal: yes, it is even drier than Mark’s I
Russ: it is.
Omal: much drier. Okay, now let me start
pontificating. Okay protocol, protocol serves a very
important function, it establishes seniority and
station in life. The station in life being the
objective goals of individuals where they want to
be, where they are, to where they want to go. In
these protocol bound situations, the protocol has
been designed over a long period of time so that no
one is insulted and everyone is paid correct respect
according to their station in life with the
statement on their possibility of advancement. Take
the Honorable Madam Ambassador, formally Lady Karra
Tanaka Hatfield. It is stated the Ambassador from
Hades Base, the Honorable Lady Karra Tanaka, full
titles. This is paying her the respect. When you
talk to her, Madam Ambassador, it is all
respect. Any time it is formal, formality must play
a role. When you are with her in a formal
environment, you must be formal and she must be
formal. If she is the hostess of the event and there
is no one higher than her, she is the abiding
authority, she is the person that everyone pays
respect to. However, let us say the former or the
current president of Sirius is at the function and
she is the highest ranking person, then everyone
pays respect to her. Let us say there is to be a
holo taken of all the high officials present. She
would stand in the center, to her right the person
hosting the event, Madam Ambassador.
To the right of Madam Ambassador would be
her bond mate. To the left would be the bond mate of
President and then everybody would be distributed
according to their rank on either side. But the
center of everything is the person who is of highest
rank. It is very structured in that way. It is
something that has been on Sirius if I am correct
for close to a 150,000 years and it has worked well.
Why is something in existence so long? Because it
works. If something doesn’t work, it doesn’t stay
very long. If something is
around for a long time, you have to wonder and
question why and the majority of the time it
is a simple answer, because it works. Protocol is
designed to work, to behave in an official capacity
with respect to the appropriate people and reactions
to the appropriate people. Occasionally you get a
rebellious person, these
people are tolerated in these events. They are
smiled upon as entertainment, “isn’t that
entertaining? Oh how charming.” So protocol serves a
function and it is what?
Russ: oh, it’s for......to correctly show
respect to those who have worked to achieve the
positions they are in.
Omal: correct and it is also to recognize
Omal: okay, that covers that. Pause the
tape please, go and get your……..
(After a short pause, Omal walking Mark’s
body has brought me outside for a rare lesson he and
I had done once before during a channeling session
Mark and I held on a camping trip with just the two
Russ: it’s on.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson.
Russ: we are on the extent.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson. Okay, if you
look, you have the moon.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay now, in a direct line to the
moon up high through the trees you see a red,
non-flickering object correct?
Omal: that is where we are channeling from.
Omal: okay, if you go across and you should
see through the trees there another non-flickering
light, slightly gold in nature. Actually that’s
blue, that is…..
Russ: yeah, straight there right?
Omal: yes that is Jupiter. Okay,
unfortunately due to the trees….ahh, you can just
see it through the trees. Okay, if you look up high
you have Saturn, look directly up.
Omal: that is a special globular cluster.
Russ: you mean that little cloudy
thing there right above us?
Russ: there’s three stars right there,
looks like Orion’s belt almost.
Omal: no, there’s a lot more than three
stars there. I count from here with the eyes I am
using, one, two, three, four, five, six…..
Russ: oh there we go.
Omal: seven, eight….
Russ: is that the Pleiades?
Russ: ahh, beautiful.
Omal: but further on, through the Pleiades
on the other side of the globular cluster that you
cannot see is a special place that is now a nebula.
Omal: let us return inside so you do not
freeze. You are coughing.
Russ: just the cold in my throat. So what
is the special place?
Omal: that is now a nebula?
Russ: yeah, that's your old home planet?
Omal: that once was my home planet.
(It no longer exists, he's that old.)
Russ: ahhh, okay……(After getting sat
down.)......yeah that’s refreshing.
Omal: yes I thought it would be
Omal: a quick astronomy lesson for you.
Omal: okay, when was the last time we gave
you an astronomy lesson?
Russ: oh when we went camping.
Russ: when we saw Taal’s ship.
Omal: correct. Unfortunately he is not as
punctual as one would like.
Russ: oh, he is supposed to be here
Russ: oh. Oh, you mean flying across in the
Russ: oh. Oh well, it was a shot.
Omal: well, punctuality can be sometimes a
weak point of pilots.......
Omal: due to other circumstances
Russ: no problem.
Omal: okay astronomy, the importance of
stars. Now, certain visible things within the night
sky, unfortunately the lead was not long enough to
take you on a full trip to explain. What we were
looking for was Orion, the hunter, Osiris and below
Osiris is a very bright star which is?
Omal: correct. These two pointers tell you
something important, they tell you the time of year.
With the configuration of stars it tells you the
time. Orion and Sirius in the position that they are
with the three planets that were pointed out tell
you the time of year and their relationship if you
know tells you the exact date.
Omal: how does this work? Well, your
planets orbit your sun and they will be in only
certain positions in certain alignments once every
so often. Now by measuring the movement of the
surrounding stars in relationship to them tells you
the time of year and the exact date because the
configuration will appear only once, that exact
configuration. So astronomy is not only being able
to look at the night sky, it tells you the time, it
tells you whereabouts your planet is in the galactic
disk. For example, on December the 9th, 1997, Osiris
was in night sky flanked by Jupiter, Mars and close
to the moon Saturn. Knowing the distance from Saturn
to the moon in your night sky how far it measures,
knowing how far Saturn is from Mars and Mars is from
the moon and knowing how far Jupiter is from Mars,
Saturn and the moon, all three of those, gives you
the information on the time. Knowing what else is in
the night sky gives you the time of year, knowing
where the constellations are to present at that time
of year gives you the exact date. Now if we were to
go back out and stand exactly where we were and look
up at the night sky, you would have noticed that
there has been movement. Only maybe half of a degree
but movement nonetheless. That is the ticking of the
clock, how far the moon has moved away or towards
Saturn is another indication of time. See we’re now
narrowing it down into minutes. Noting how far the
moon had traveled in the night sky now brings it
down to seconds. You see, astronomy is more than
able to help you navigate, it helps you tell the
Russ: I want to insert something real
quick. Recently I heard somebody tell me that there
is a Stonehenge-like construction that’s been found
in Britain that's much bigger than Stonehenge……
Russ: and was completely buried.
Russ: and it’s complete, it’s not destroyed
in any way.
Omal: unfortunately that is half-truths, it
is destroyed and it wasn’t destroyed by anybody in
particular and it is not that far away from
Russ: what’s the story on it then?
Omal: basically it rotted.
Omal: it was called Woodhenge,
wood being easier to work with. Same configuration,
just thinner and larger.
Russ: so it was a predecessor to
Omal: they were present at about the same
Russ: I mean was one used as a model for
the other maybe?
Omal: no, one served one purpose and the
other served another purpose.
Omal: different times of the year,
Omal: but, as astronomers, as an
astronomy.......what is it tonight with words? One
is confused by that...........explain Stonehenge in
astronomical terms is quite correct. It is both a
lunar and a solar calendar. It is a common
misconception that it is purely one, it is both, it
is used for both purposes. The history of the
nations that worshiped there changes over a
period of time so that it was remodeled, rearranged
and used differently in different points of the
history. Much like the burial practices in ancient
Russ: hmm, so essentially what they call
the sacrificial stone which is the center of
Stonehenge, could either be that or it could
actually be a spot from which to chart the planets
Russ: a sitting spot so that it is a
constant point to measure the distance the planets
have traveled within the night sky.
Omal: correct. It is very unlikely that it
would be offered or used as a human sacrifice spot
although it was not unknown at times of great
stress, of great difficulty, however that would not
be its primary use.
Russ: right. And the same would be said for
Omal: correct but let’s get back to the
functions of Stonehenge....
Omal: not as a sacrificial site but as an
observatory to observe the procession in the night
sky of key stars and constellations……..