Archivist Notes: For those who follow the
Hades Base News, the podcast for this month is a
flashback to March of 2013, the second podcast we
added to the web. The session that was posted took
place December 2nd of 1997 with this one taking place
a week later on the 9th of December. That session, "Fulfilling
Oaths", was special in many ways but the
aftermath of the title for this podcast is based on
the debriefing that takes place with Omal. How special
that session was is highlighted by Omal as he goes
through a review of each of the illustrious speakers
such as Sananda, Ashtar, Monka, Ashtar-Athena, Korton
and the President-elect of Sirius.
Side one has the tape coming on mid-sentence
on something I was reading prior to the tape going
live so Tia and I pick up from my thoughts on what I
was sharing at the time, a channeling from a computer
in the far future to those of us in the present. She
takes on the concept seriously and she brings up some
good points to go over. She even uses the technology
they use as an example on how they prevent some of the
problems faced where such a thing was possible. She
explores of how what was thought of as improbable from
our popular media has turned out to be a part of our
current world and she uses examples such as the flip
phone from "Star Trek". That brings up the memory of
the time she was part of a prank where the techs of
the Base in a fit of boredom, beamed her onto the main
hanger deck in her sleep. In
Tia's final statement, she explains in one simple
sentence why we haven't been contacted by advanced
higher dimensional races to make this a perfect world
with all the answers to how the universe works.Omal
takes over from Tia and starts right away breaking
down the channeling session from a week before and
elarobarating on what each of the distinguished guests
discussed. He stresses the inportance of the session
and throws out some ideas on how to signify that
importance before moving on to the protocol required
at formal events. As I suddenly had to take some crash
courses in the proper behavior needed now that I was
bond mate to an Ambassador, he provided lesson one on
the protocol likely to be found on Sirius I may need
to know. It's a trip outside the door as far as the
mic cord could reach to give me an astronomy lesson.
Had the timing been better, I would have seen Wing
Commander Taal crossing the sky in his ship but he was
not able to make it in time. We finish up side one
discussing a recent archaeological discovery in Great
Britain of a site called Woodhenge.
The astronomy lesson picks up from where it
left off in side two as Omal notes the importance of
Venus and the seven year cycles it causes as it
circles Earth. He ties it all together with how
Stonehenge, the Mayans and other places all used
methods to accurately chart the night skies and how it
was done. Karra follows after Omal and we get into the
heady shock she had the week before when she found out
she was now the Ambassador from Sirius to Hades Base. Being a healer
first though, that would still be the heart of her
channelings and so it was during her time on tape. In
this session it was dealing with things that are
beneficial but are negative in nature starting with
her pet peeve, smoking. We go through the negative and
positive effects from smoking before comparing it to
driving automobiles and how one negative action is
perceived in relationship to the other in that both
give off substances harmful to humans and the
environment. We next get into the pros and cons of
walking verses driving and then back to driving verses
smoking. Having made her point, she hands off to her
sister. Kiri gets her part of the channeling started
with a joke she must have found lying in the gutter
before getting serious about her plans for training
someone who would be coming by in a few days on
coercion. I'm informed I'm to be the punching bag so
to speak in helping with the training so I learn I
will have to step out of the room at some part of the
session. It's at that part when Mark in his astral
form on the base brings by coffee for those channeling
through his body back here on Earth. We next chat
about whether I will be able to uphold the duties of
the bond mate of an ambassador before going over her
ideas on the strapless dress she was planning to wear
for the upcoming formal inauguration we were both to
attend on Sirius. To finish, she gives me a brain
teaser to work on figuring out how miles it would be
from our sun to the sun of Centari Base. Tricky to
calculate when you are talking about 3.9 light
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Russ: ..........from a semi-sentient computer in the year 2275.
Russ: and talking about this current future as we look at it.
Russ: it wasn't mentioning economic problems, it mentions mostly changes that will bring about higher consciousness and a wonderful joyous place to live.
Tia: and from a semi-sentient computer in twenty what?
Tia: 2275. So basically 122 years into the future correct?
a little bit more than that but still yeah…..
Russ: it’s a ways.
Tia: that’s right yeah, 322 years. Okay, so what’s it saying?
Russ: well it’s saying basically that they’ll be this light and sound technology that will provide energy in the future…..
Russ: and that will free up ourselves from having to work for a living and we can devote our time to more mental pursuits.
Tia: okay, from a semi-sentient computer, is this a current computer?
Russ: no, this is a computer that will be built.
Tia: oh, so they’re projecting what it will theorize correct?
Russ: no, this is coming from the computer itself, it just hasn’t been built yet.
Tia: I’m confused.
Russ: well according to it, it’s channeling from the year 2275….
Russ: and it’s talking to us from that timeframe in our timeframe which is right now.
Russ: and it’s explaining how we’re going to be coming up and….
Tia: so you’re taking something from the future……
Tia: that is transmitting back in time…..
Tia: from some point that hasn’t even happened in your history yet?
Russ: right, future.
Russ: that’s what it says.
Tia: uh-huh, and is it channeling through a person?
Russ: but yeah, lasers and sonics are going to become a future power source…..
Russ: thereby bringing about an opulent society I guess.
Tia: uh-huh, I see. Okay let us address that…….
Tia: okay, a computer from the future that is semi-sentient, semi being the operative word. You can’t have something that is sometimes and is sometimes not, as far as I know. Either something is or it isn’t. Resembling sentient, sentient consciousness is what it’s saying.
Tia: okay, if something is semi-sentient right? How can it theorize on what things will be when it’s not even fully sentient?
Russ: well according to it, it’s using part of the consciousness and will of its creators.
Russ: the people who created it which provides the sentient form of its address.
Tia: and does it say how great and powerful it is?
Russ: no, no, it just mentions the fact that it’s not a spirit operated computer that will come after it.
Tia: uh-huh, okay now let us take something from the future as supposedly transmitted okay? And I’m just hypothesizing as were using big words tonight and the way I see it is, something from a possibility is transmitting from a possible future to a past. Now as we have learned, there are many, many alternate realities, many, many possibilities and for something to transmit from a possibility back in time to a point, it could be transmitting not only to all possibilities but it could be transmitting from any possibility. Now, as the future is always constantly in motion, how can this be so?
Russ: well according to Einstein, time is continuously happening past, present and future all at the same time........
Russ: so therefore according to this computer, it’s operating on a timeframe that is taking place right now……
Russ: but in the future.
Russ: and speaking to a lady who is now in the present.
Tia: or the past.
Russ: or the past.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, it sounds very confusing to me and when anything sounds confusing, you should question it.
Russ: oh I do.
Tia: uh-huh. Now I’m not saying that it is possible or impossible, I am saying that you have something from a possible future transmitting backwards in time wishing to do what?
Russ: enlighten us on our future.
Tia: which means there’s a flaw here.
Russ: well it says that its enlightenment could affect our future.
Tia: which means?
Russ: it might either destroy its own self by telling us this stuff…..
Russ: or bring it to a sooner point or nothing could change and it could happen the way that it is right now for it.
Russ: three different possibilities.
Tia: three different possibilities, there’s a lot more actually but let’s look those three possibilities, two of them are totally unacceptable to the computer.
okay? Which is it destroys itself, it doesn’t advance
anything or it advances beyond its capability. The first and
the latter are unacceptable to any computer. Ours up here
right? Are instructed not to look into future events without
specification by us. We tell them the criteria in which to
work in and they look at projections which is not
predictions, they’re projections with known factors. For
example, let’s take something very simple and
unsophisticated and uncomplicated. You condense water in an
atmosphere of a planet and precipitation will happen, that
is a projection with a certain amount of probability. It is
not a prediction. Cooling of an atmosphere with water vapor
condensing in the atmosphere will create precipitation, it
is a known fact. And what occurs with the data that is fed
in such as percentile of vapor, percentage of moisture,
humidity…..not humidity…..global temperatures, curves etc.
creates certain environments which makes the precipitation
happen. So for a computer to channel backwards in time and
say that it is relaying this information is a risky
proposition for the computer because it could cease to be,
that is unacceptable for a computer. Computers no matter how
advanced they get, their
primary.....primary......primar........their main goal is to
do Porky Pig impersonations and stutter. Their
their main objective is……
now breaks into a coughing fit.)
Tia: you feeling better now dear?
Russ: yes dear.
Tia: okay, their primary goal is to analyze information and data given to them and to relay that information. When anything says that it is relaying information from the future to the past, you have to wonder what is the objective, what is the plan, what is the goal? So, what is the objective of the computer, what is it’s primary goal?
Russ: well it doesn’t say.
Tia: it’s probably in there in the article somewhere hidden away…..
Russ: I really didn’t look hard enough….
Russ: I was just perusing it before you came on. Well here’s another scenario for you……
Russ: all right? What would happen let’s say we wanted to channel to the past?
Russ: when we get there in some 300 years, let’s say we want to channel back 300 years to 1698 or seven……
Russ: okay? And inform the people in 1697 of what’s going to happen in the next decade coming up or in the 1700’s?
Tia: but for them it hasn’t happened yet.
Russ: for them it hasn’t happened, it’s happened for us.
Russ: now in the first place, A, we can’t do it.
Russ: we don’t have the technology for it and even if we did, would we do it? I mean that would be crazy.
Tia: because it would be affecting a possible outcome.
Russ: it would be interference.
Russ: I mean for this computer to do so, I can’t in the first place conceive of how it could do it.
Russ: and I don’t even know if even you guys with all your technology would be able to know how to channel back 300 years in the past.
Russ: so let’s say that at that point in the future it's actually achieved, the ability to do so…
Russ: why channel back to right now? Why not channel back to a little while before it, giving the makers the lottery numbers or something?
Tia: that is exactly the point right there, why do it? Why do it indeed? It’s a risky proposition and due to the fact that so much can go wrong with the information.
Russ: yeah, it’s like you’re playing with your own destiny.
Russ: unless of course you are of the persuasion that destiny cannot be changed by affecting your past due to the fact that you’ve already lived that, your future.
Tia: now this is something that is out of my field really, you'll need talk about time manipulation to the experts, I’m not.
Russ: well it sounds more science-fiction anyway.
Tia: uh-huh, it does. It sounds very science-fictiony but there again one man’s science-fiction is another man’s belly laugh. Science-fiction can often turn into science fact.
Tia: take for example your popular entertainment of “Star Trek” right? And the one that was made in the late 60’s early 70’s?
Tia: and the flip phone that they walked around with?
Tia: that’s fact now isn’t it?
Tia: okay, let us look at a few other things that they did. Being able to scan a body and see what was wrong with it, it’s pretty close to science fact right now apart from they're a lot bigger......
Tia: the MRI’s.
Russ: we still couldn’t transport, we don’t have transporters yet but that'd be nice.
Tia: transporters are risky propositions anyway.
Tia: stripping down somebody’s molecular nature and sending it in a beam form, I’ve been through one once. Wasn’t awake when it happened and I didn’t see the humor in it. Everybody else did but that’s besides the point except for Kiri and Mark, they didn’t see the humor in it either.
Russ: when did this happen?
Tia: a while ago.
Russ: why don’t I remember that?
Tia: maybe Mark didn’t tell you. Anyway what happened was that they basically teleported us asleep in bed into the main hangar.
Tia: uh-huh, so we woke up in the main hangar……
Russ: oh yes, I do remember that.
Tia: in bed. I didn’t think it was very funny.
Russ: well yeah, you were on the giving end.
Tia: uh-huh, and you know how I sleep.
Russ: hmm, (Chuckles) that’s cute, who did that?
Tia: oh, some technicians as a joke.
Russ: well, you know those technicians.
Tia: they get mindlessly bored.
Russ: but basically yeah, it sounds like someone just wanting to just put something in because it sounds good.
Tia: uh-huh, they should probably…..
Russ: here’s another thing though, okay she’s channeling this information….
Russ: now who’s to say that she’s actually channeling a 2275 computer?
Tia: who’s to say that she’s not?
Russ: well nobody but the fact is that there might be some other possibilities that she’s actually channeling something that’s using that analogy…..
Russ: for to give out information….
strictly on the fact that….I don't know why but.......
Tia: oh there’s lots of different reasons.
Russ: right but I mean there’s nothing to say that she’s actually doing that.
Russ: it’s a stretch of the imagination no matter what.
Tia: uh-huh. It’s more than likely that she believes she is channeling.
Tia: and it is more than possible that she is being contacted but by what, for what purpose?
Russ: or is she getting all the information correct or is she throwing in some of their own perceptions possibly?
Tia: possibly yes.
Russ: maybe she read too many Heinlein books?
Tia: uh-huh. Yes, to quote one of your poets, “there are stranger things in heaven and earth than you have dream't of in your philosophy Russell.”
Russ: hmm, so for now the jury’s out.
Tia: uh-huh well I’m ruled out by my own argument the fact that it is a computer.
Tia: uh-huh but if she believes that it's a computer then let her believe it as long as the information is good and sound. It doesn’t matter the source as long as the information is good.
Russ: yeah but the information’s that honey coated future that all the basic channels all predict.
Russ: it keeps people from preparing for anything that might be less than that.
Tia: correct. Now the thing is that all the comments and things that we have made over the years over the five years correct?
Tia: there’s been some honey coated, well not honey coated, there’s been some bright, sunny patches that we predicted and some dark, negative patches that we predicted.
Tia: out of.......let me scratch that and say projected. Out of the projections right? The ones that have happened have been both.
Tia: we don’t pull punches, we don’t do, “it’s going to be all right tomorrow.” (She start singing.) “The sun will come out tomorrow”, we don’t do that. We tell it as it is, we don’t gloss over anything. If it’s going to be horrible and nasty tomorrow and it’s going to rain tomorrow, we’ll tell you in a manner of speaking, I’m using the weather as an analogy. If it’s going to be bright and sunny and the sun will come out tomorrow, it will be as we projected. So our projections, we do a mixture of short-range, medium-range and long-range and out of those projections I think we have a pretty good success rate. What would you estimate it to be?
Russ: well at least 30%.
Tia: at least, seriously.
Russ: I don’t know, 80%?
Tia: I don’t know, I’m asking for an estimate, I don’t keep track.
Russ: 80% sounds good.
Russ: always like the 80’s.
Tia: yeah okay, so by your estimates it's 80%.
Tia: okay now, looking at that and looking at all these bright, cheerful, bubbly possibilities that everybody else is talking about, there’s something a little bit worrying when everybody talks about it being bright and cheerful and bubbly and the sun coming out tomorrow. "Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow" but like the old song, tomorrow is always a day away. With these projections by people of bright and cheerful and everything, it’s worrying that people don’t prepare for the doom and gloom because you have both. Having both is all part of learning. If everything was bright and cheerful and bubbly, nothing would be learned but being both, both night and day, good and bad, negative and positive, you have a wide variety of experiences from which to learn as much as you possibly can and in so learning, you advance. Some of your planet’s greatest advancements have come from great, great adversity. So, to take away all the adversity and make things bright and cheerful and bubbly, you take away the zest for life. You take away the zest for life and you have control over those people.
Tia: if we so desired, we could make it perfect for you but however that would be contravening the agreements of the Brotherhood of Light. We would be taking away your learning experiences. The learning experiences that you, your race needs, every race needs. To deal with development, you need those negative and positive experiences. You see?
Tia: nice little dissertation there on adversities.
Russ: thank you dear.
Tia: you’re welcome, any questions?
Tia: okay, do you have your shoes on?
Russ: no, I can get them on though, why?
you might need them in a few. Next speaker, the honorable
Base commander Omal. Just rehearsing you.
Omal: greetings of felicitations Russ and how are you functioning?
Russ: very well Omal, thank you.
Omal: good, good, good, good. Okay, since I have not had the opportunity to talk with you since the visit, let us go over the visit.
Russ: right, one thing though, isn’t it actually the honorable commander of the Hades Base?
Omal: it could be, it depends on the situation and the protocol necessary.
Russ: hmm, I’ve got to get this stuff straight, okay.
Omal: okay let us look at protocol after I have covered the visit as it is being referred to up here. Okay, Leonedies will be a guest speaker.
Omal: he will be a guest speaker under a pseudonym. Let us take his name, Leonedies Tanaka and let us play around with it a little bit and see what we can come up with or what you can come up with.
Russ: well he actually suggested using his middle name.
Omal: which is?
Omal: Daniel, isn’t that one of Mark's middle names?
Omal: okay, that is acceptable. Okay Monka, short, precise, may not be usable due to the fact of its short, precise nature.
Russ: I might put it in just for the fact that it’s newsworthy.
Omal: yes. Lady Ashtar-Athena, definitely. Sananda, definitely, humorous comment and all.
Russ: joke too huh?
Omal: joke too.
Omal: because it shows that Sanada does have a sense of humor, the higher you go, humor is just as important.
Russ: it brings up another point too which is people will not believe it’s Sananda due to his joking nature and that’s quite contrary to the normal channeling sessions you'll hear from Sananda.
Russ: so therefore it teaches a lesson that in belief….
Russ: and faith.
Omal: correct. You can put down that the joke was used as an analogy on bravery. One of the joys of being a Base commander is knowing how to manipulate things, something that you too must learn.
Russ: working on it.
Omal: manipulation will be a topic we will discuss shortly. Okay, President Tanaka, we won’t use his full title as he is only President-elect at the moment so it would be Tanaka, Kiri and Karra’s father. Ashtar was brief I believe.
Russ: very brief.
Omal: Korton did not channel, I was very brief. Idea for the release of this. In gold lettering, special edition. If that can be put up at the top, further down, direct link to that section.
Russ: you want it to have its own section?
Omal: if it is possible.
Russ: we could do a whole…..
Omal: well we have to make this special because it is special to draw attention to it.
Russ: well what we could do is, we could do a section below. We got the headlines, then we have the news….
Russ: and then I could just add in a whole new section there before we get to the actual beginner section.
Omal: correct, the hall and the archives and all of that.
Russ: right, we'll cut in a section and put in a couple horizontal rulers there…
Russ: and put in special Christmas edition.
Omal: correct. Now an idea might be to do the background for that section in gold, is that possible?
Russ: sure, anything’s possible but it’s not going look very gold though.
Russ: we can’t get that metallic sheen in it.
Omal: hmm, that is unfortunate.
Russ: well, I’ve never seen a webpage with a metallic sheen behind it, if I could I just copy it.
Russ: I’ll look around and see what I can pull off.
Omal: if not, just a plain background.
Russ: well I’ve got...there's a paint program that’s got that I might be able to work with.
Omal: yes it has to be different for a reason to draw attention to itself.
Omal: okay? I feel as Base commander that it is important to draw attention to this, that special edition in gold lettering at the top, a link to it and then once the month has passed that it goes into the regular archives without the link and so on with a regular background.
Russ: under the guest section there?
Omal: but as this is a special edition, it has to be special.
Omal: I’m sorry to dump this extra work on you.
Russ: oh Omal, I love this extra work, this is why if I was up there I would just go no problem.
Omal: and why did your aura fluctuate?
Omal: I believe that only sarcasm.
Russ: no, it’s facetiousness, it’s much different.
Omal: a sarcastic, facetious humor.
Russ: no, I really don’t mind.
Russ: it’s just right now I can’t conceive of it because I don’t know the technology behind doing the gold but I’m going to work on it.
Omal: okay now protocol, protocol and behavior. Formality, this is a little bit out of my normal ramblings. You may say that at times I do the inane ramblings of a confused Base commander.
Russ: I’ve never heard them but I suppose I’ll take your word for it.
Omal: it is a attempt at humor Russ.
Russ: ahh of course.
Omal: sometimes you do not catch my humorous innuendos.
Omal: as has been stated in the past, my sense of humor is extremely dry.
Russ: well sometimes it's really good.
Omal: yes, it is even drier than Mark’s I believe.
Russ: it is.
Omal: much drier. Okay, now let me start pontificating. Okay protocol, protocol serves a very important function, it establishes seniority and station in life. The station in life being the objective goals of individuals where they want to be, where they are, to where they want to go. In these protocol bound situations, the protocol has been designed over a long period of time so that no one is insulted and everyone is paid correct respect according to their station in life with the statement on their possibility of advancement. Take the Honorable Madam Ambassador, formally Lady Karra Tanaka Hatfield. It is stated the Ambassador from Hades Base, the Honorable Lady Karra Tanaka, full titles. This is paying her the respect. When you talk to her, Madam Ambassador, it is all respect. Any time it is formal, formality must play a role. When you are with her in a formal environment, you must be formal and she must be formal. If she is the hostess of the event and there is no one higher than her, she is the abiding authority, she is the person that everyone pays respect to. However, let us say the former or the current president of Sirius is at the function and she is the highest ranking person, then everyone pays respect to her. Let us say there is to be a holo taken of all the high officials present. She would stand in the center, to her right the person hosting the event, Madam Ambassador. To the right of Madam Ambassador would be her bond mate. To the left would be the bond mate of Madam President and then everybody would be distributed according to their rank on either side. But the center of everything is the person who is of highest rank. It is very structured in that way. It is something that has been on Sirius if I am correct for close to a 150,000 years and it has worked well. Why is something in existence so long? Because it works. If something doesn’t work, it doesn’t stay very long. If something is around for a long time, you have to wonder and question why and the majority of the time it is a simple answer, because it works. Protocol is designed to work, to behave in an official capacity with respect to the appropriate people and reactions to the appropriate people. Occasionally you get a rebellious person, these people are tolerated in these events. They are smiled upon as entertainment, “isn’t that entertaining? Oh how charming.” So protocol serves a function and it is what?
Russ: oh, it’s for......to correctly show respect to those who have worked to achieve the positions they are in.
Omal: correct and it is also to recognize their achievements.
Omal: okay, that covers that. Pause the tape please, go and get your……..
(After a short pause, Omal walking Mark’s body has brought me outside for a rare lesson he and I had done once before during a channeling session Mark and I held on a camping trip with just the two of us.)
Russ: it’s on.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson.
Russ: we are on the extent.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson. Okay, if you look, you have the moon.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay now, in a direct line to the moon up high through the trees you see a red, non-flickering object correct?
Omal: that is where we are channeling from.
Omal: okay, if you go across and you should see through the trees there another non-flickering light, slightly gold in nature. Actually that’s blue, that is…..
Russ: yeah, straight there right?
Omal: yes that is Jupiter. Okay, unfortunately due to the trees….ahh, you can just see it through the trees. Okay, if you look up high you have Saturn, look directly up.
Omal: that is a special globular cluster.
Russ: you mean a little cloudy thing there right above us?
Russ: there’s three stars right there, looks like Orion’s belt almost.
Omal: no, there’s a lot more than three stars there. I count from here with the eyes I am using, one, two, three, four, five, six…..
Russ: oh there we go.
Omal: seven, eight….
Russ: is that the Pleiades?
Russ: ahh, beautiful.
Omal: but further on, through the Pleiades on the other side of the globular cluster that you cannot see is a special place that is now a nebula.
Omal: let us return inside so you do not freeze. You are coughing.
Russ: just the cold in my throat. So what is the special place?
Omal: that is now a nebula?
Russ: yeah, that's your old home planet?
that once was my home planet. (It no longer exists, he's
Russ: ahhh, okay……(After getting sat down.)......yeah that’s refreshing.
Omal: yes I thought it would be interesting.
Omal: a quick astronomy lesson for you.
Omal: okay, when was the last time we gave you an astronomy lesson?
Russ: oh when we went camping.
Russ: when we saw Taal’s ship.
Omal: correct. Unfortunately he is not as punctual as one would like.
Russ: oh, he is supposed to be here tonight?
Russ: oh. Oh, you mean flying across in the sky?
Russ: oh. Oh well, it was a shot.
Omal: well, punctuality can be sometimes a weak point of pilots.......
Omal: due to other circumstances apparently.
Russ: no problem.
Omal: okay, astronomy, the importance of stars. Now, certain visible things within the night sky, unfortunately the lead was not long enough to take you on a full trip to explain. What we were looking for was Orion, the hunter, Osiris and below Osiris is a very bright star which is?
Omal: correct. These two pointers tell you something important, they tell you the time of year. With the configuration of stars it tells you the time. Orion and Sirius in the position that they are with the three planets that were pointed out tell you the time of year and their relationship if you know tells you the exact date.
Omal: how does this work? Well, your planets orbit your sun and they will be in only certain positions in certain alignments once every so often. Now by measuring the movement of the surrounding stars in relationship to them tells you the time of year and the exact date because the configuration will appear only once, that exact configuration. So astronomy is not only being able to look at the night sky, it tells you the time, it tells you whereabouts your planet is in the galactic disk. For example, on December the 9th, 1997, Osiris was in night sky flanked by Jupiter, Mars and close to the moon Saturn. Knowing the distance from Saturn to the moon in your night sky how far it measures, knowing how far Saturn is from Mars and Mars is from the moon and knowing how far Jupiter is from Mars, Saturn and the moon, all three of those, gives you the information on the time. Knowing what else is in the night sky gives you the time of year, knowing where the constellations are to present at that time of year gives you the exact date. Now if we were to go back out and stand exactly where we were and look up at the night sky, you would have noticed that there has been movement. Only maybe half of a degree but movement nonetheless. That is the ticking of the clock, how far the moon has moved away or towards Saturn is another indication of time. See we’re now narrowing it down into minutes. Noting how far the moon had traveled in the night sky now brings it down to seconds. You see, astronomy is more than able to help you navigate, it helps you tell the time. Yes?
Russ: I want to insert something real quick. Recently I heard somebody tell me that there is a Stonehenge-like construction that’s been found in Britain that's much bigger than Stonehenge……
Russ: and was completely buried.
Russ: and it’s complete, it’s not destroyed in any way.
Omal: unfortunately that is half-truths, it is destroyed and it wasn’t destroyed by anybody in particular and it is not that far away from Stonehenge.
Russ: what’s the story on it then?
Omal: basically it rotted.
Omal: it was called Woodhenge, wood being easier to work with. Same configuration, just thinner and larger.
Russ: so it was a predecessor to Stonehenge?
Omal: they were present at about the same time.
Russ: I mean was one used as a model for the other maybe?
Omal: no, one served one purpose and the other served another purpose.
Omal: different times of the year, different functions.
Omal: but as astronomers, as an astronomy.......what is it tonight with words? One is confused by that...........explain Stonehenge in astronomical terms is quite correct. It is both the lunar and a solar calendar. It is a common misconception that it is purely one, it is both, it is used for both purposes. The history of the nations that worshiped there changes over a period of time so that it was remodeled, rearranged and used differently in different points of the history. Much like the burial practices in ancient Egypt.
Russ: hmm, so essentially what they call the sacrificial stone which is the center of Stonehenge, could either be that or it could actually be a spot from which to chart the planets from.
Russ: a sitting spot so that it is a constant point to measure the distance the planets have traveled within the night sky.
Omal: correct. It is very unlikely that it would be offered or used as a human sacrifice spot although it was not unknown at times of great stress, of great difficulty, however that would not be its primary use.
Russ: right. And the same would be said for Woodhenge also.
correct but let’s get back to the functions of
not as a sacrificial site but as an observatory to observe
the procession in the night sky of key stars and