Archivist Notes: This session coincided
with a celebration on the base at the time and so
drinking was taking place by some of the girls on the
base. Unfortunately a large continent of guests also
showed up and so the plans that had been in place
needed to be postponed. Instead, a very inebriated Tia
starts off a night of firsts; the first and only time
I remember excessive drinking going on during a
channeling session by individuals on the base and the
first time someone had so bad an accident where bones
were actually broken. Unfortunately the tape quality
was not as clear as could have been hoped due to some
static and a radio broadcast for the first part of
side one that bled through when hearing the playback
it has been cleaned up the best it can be.
Our tipsy ring mistress
starts things off by answering a question on her
duties as ring mistress. This provides an inside look
at how she sets things up for the channeling sessions,
something that had formally been a mystery. Karra next
gets things back on more sober ground to answer
questions from our youngest guest, a healer in
training named Velvet who received some great answers
from best qualified person in the room. She gets into
a discussion on the dark and light sides of everyone
and how that is a necessary thing before going into
the ancient healing practice of using honey and why
one would have used that to heal. That leads to a
discussion on ancient races and their ability to
survive into the present. She finishes up on the
things she did as a medic to sterilize items while out
in the field just before she has to put her healing
skills to use for a sudden emergency. Kiri takes her
place and gets into a classic engineering test she had
given Mark and myself, transport an egg 100 feet using
balsa and rubber bands. She manages to hook Skip into
the project before the tape ends.
how to work with them should those kinds of energies be called upon. One revelation confirmed is how those energies as well as devic energies go all the way back to Atlantis. Karra ends side two with a synopsis of how Lyka managed to break her nose and how best I can help Mark in his working with a goddess.
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Tia: rock ‘n roll, yes.............uh-huh?
Tia: okay, right......uh-huh?
Tia: business and entertainment, questions
first. How’s it going Skip?
Skip: bigger than that.
Tia: think of something really big.
Velvet, think of something really, really big.
Russ: i.e. having fun or with others up
there getting serious.
Russ: now our focus is at all times
important for learning correct?
Russ: what would be tonight’s tape’s…….
Russ: very nice vintage.....
Russ: I've tried many a bottle yes.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay Skip, do you have a
Tia: do you have a question?
(A rather sober sounding Karra
comes on to get things a bit more serious.)
Velvet: can we healers…..
Russ: I have a suggestion.....
Russ: it’s an exact science, I know.
Shane: is a leaf and the ground, you take
an earth into the tree and you take the grass and the
leaf and you mix them together and you take the
Russ: you know? I just suffered you know?
Linda T: or if you get bit by a spider or any kind of poison snake, anything poison, it’ll suck it right out.
Skip: yeah, tobacco will pull it, it’ll
Skip: about 25%.
Russ: we're missing a link.
Karra: yeah, between the three people that
are of Indian descent, I’m sure you could come up with
some old Indian medicines that you can work together
with and this is a prime example with herbology and
the uses of tobacco, it’s not all bad Russ.
Linda T: uh-huh.
Russ: I mean everybody else took healing
and they basically treated it as a mystic kind of
thing and they asked their gods to heal or the priests
would heal but the Hebrew people took all that
religious stuff and threw it out the window and just
took everything they learned from the people around
them and used that strictly, logically as what worked
and they healed with just that.
Karra: and that’s why I’m so happy, almost ecstatically happy that we have so many healers together in one place. It is a prime example of healers coming together to exchange ideas.
Russ: uh-huh. Well when we’re coming up
into our future here where things will need to be more
understood as what works because let’s say you can’t
get to a doctor…..
Linda T: yeah.
Karra: everything, top to bottom and where
do you start cleaning?
Karra: I just told you, I just told you,
boiling hot water.
Karra: tents, everything.
Skip: you got to do the instruments,
bandages, the whole works, everything needs to be
Karra: yep, we used to take the tent down and we used to boil it.
Russ: boil the whole tent?
Karra: c'mon Russ.
Russ: but I never thought of having a boil a tent.
Skip: why not?
Skip: have a what now?
(Tia returns barely.)
Russ: oh yeah you're right, never mind.
Kiri: she is absolutely smashed.
Laura: he can do this.
Russ: 100 feet.
Velvet: a hundred yards.
Russ: this should be a good....how is Mark
be able to participate if he's channeling?
Skip: raw egg or hard-boiled?
Russ: how are you going to mark that out?
Skip: I’ve got a hundred foot tape.
Shane: who do I ask about ancient
Kiri: two minutes on this side, good.
(Kiri laughs and then Skip laughs.)
Kiri: yes I am.
Velvet: do you have.......would Mark have
any books for me, on engineering?
Kiri: he’s got things on how to build
Is there any configuration size limit to
Kiri: yes, you do have a very good point.
Okay rubber bands…
(Kiri comes on to finish what she started.)
Skip: we've had a good time tonight, we really have.
Kiri: you don’t know what bamboo is?
Russ: it has been a classic, yes.
Skip: yes, very good time tonight.
Kiri: it’s a very tall, thin……
Skip: this makes up for last week.
Kiri: yes it does.
Skip: yeah because last week was kind of a dud.
Skip: don’t misunderstand me, I didn't mean......
Kiri: yeah, everybody was on very strange energy level.
Skip: low ebb, low ebb, right, we all were.
Kiri: in fact, the technician has gone off to find Tia, we can hear in the bamboo somewhere but….
Russ: is Teene doing the technician tonight?
Kiri: yes, she’s gone off to find Tia so we don’t have a technician at the moment.
Russ: we have personal technician though right?
Kiri: yeah, practically.
Shane: okay what’s bamboo again?
Kiri: bamboo? It is a grass.
Russ: it’s a grass.
Kiri: it’s a grass.
Shane: oh yeah, huh.
Russ: it grows 9 feet, 20 feet…..
Shane: it’s a sugarcane.
Kiri: yeah, it’s like sugarcane. In fact sugarcane is a member of the grass family.
Shane: it is.
Kiri: uh-huh, now Russ there is a reason why I've included Skip.
Russ: I know you have, because he’s got engineering ideas that will help the whole project increase in its knowledge.
Kiri: that’s right and also something more important is because Skip will be accessing information he doesn't know he has. That is the key to it.
Kiri: actually I think we ought to make it a little bit harder just for Skip.
Russ: I like that idea.
Kiri: but it would be unfair.
Skip: go ahead.
Kiri: okay no I’m not getting make it harder. It’s going to be a 100 feet, three rubber bands made out of balsa, nails and glue.
Skip: all right. That’s easy, that’s too easy.
Skip: I already got it figured out.
Kiri: for the competition.
Russ: where are we going to hold this at, up here? Are you going to hold this up here?
Skip: where are we going to hold it? Yeah, where we going to hold it?
Kiri: biggest area I can think of is just up the road.
Russ: Heavenly parking lot?
Skip: Heavenly parking lot?
(A portion of the tape has been edited as Kiri erupted into a fit of giggles.)
(The base commander gets things back in order up until a very drunk Tia falls over him.)
Russ: oh jeez.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Velvet: greetings Omal.
Russ: you dragged her out of the chair huh?
Omal: yes, it seemed the best thing to do, otherwise she would’ve just sat there and giggled. Very interesting conversation that would’ve been.
Russ: indeed it would have, thank you for dragging her out.
Omal: okay, questions and answers.
Laura: (Speaking to Shane.) this is Omal, you can ask him.
Laura: yes, the guy you want to ask.
Omal: I am the person to ask on the unknown.
Shane: okay Omal.....
Laura: speak clearly please.
Shane: okay, it's about pyramids.
Shane: well you know how they built pyramids…..
Shane: how you can’t even stick a piece of paper through it?
Shane: how do they do that?
Omal: they did it very cautiously and carefully by excavating the stones….
Omal: and by cutting to a predetermined measurable size......
Shane: they cut it almost perfect.
Shane: you can’t even fit a dime through there.
Omal: no, it is not so much the cutting as the fitting. That is how did they fit them? Not how did they cut them but how did they fit them? That is the question. How do you fit something so precisely is by smoothing the edges and how would you do that in a desert environment?
Skip: sand them.
Omal: you have plenty of sand to send them with.
Skip: sure, sand them down.
Shane: how do you sand them with regular sand?
Skip: by putting it between rocks or using a board.
Velvet: does ancient mean old?
Russ: Reader’s Digest in fact hired a construction company to determine what it would take to build the pyramids with today’s modern technology.
Russ: and working with that construction company, they came up with building it in twelve, 48 foot steps using cranes, trucks to carry the stones and everything with all the latest technology.......it would cost basically 20, no let’s see no, $300 million dollars…
Russ: it would take 3,000 men working day and night three years to build.
Omal: now there is a much easier way to get rocks smooth…
Omal: than using sand, use a mixture of sand and water.
Omal: do you use that combination?
Skip: yeah you can use that combination and wet stones, we use it today.
Omal: correct, that is how you get them smooth to fit together. The sheer size of them, some of them I believe weigh up to 50 tons do they not?
Skip: I believe so, yeah I would think that’s correct.
Omal: the sheer weight would pressure them together to form a very, very tight fit. The construction is what gives it its tight fit.
Omal: if you take sand and pile it, it makes a pyramid but it does not make a steep pyramid.
Skip: no, it just makes a mound.
Omal: correct, I believe the angles are constantly 45°.
Skip: no, it wouldn’t make 45°, it would be more like 30.
Omal: correct but to have steep angles, you need a lot of pressure to push in the blocks to form the perfect fit which is what they had.
Omal: how that is achieved is by layering the rocks in a very particular way.
Shane: how did they do that?
Skip: well, it's to how they actually engineered it.
Skip: yeah because the engineering would be the secret to the whole thing.
Omal: correct, it is quite an easy thing to do once you know how.
Skip: yeah, hmm.
Omal: but things often are not as they appear when you look at architecture of that period and design.
Skip: actually them 50 ton blocks by putting sand and water between them, you could make them fit perfectly by moving them back and forth.
Omal: oh it is quite simple.
Russ: now as we know from our discussions with yourself, the blocks actually were lifted by psychokinesis…..
Russ: and placed into……(Speaking to the group.)....in other words, if I was to look at this microphone and pick it up with my mind up about 2 feet in the air, that would be psychokinesis.
Shane: what is that?
Skip: well it's people have developed their minds so that they can do that.
Russ: uh-huh, back then they had more mind control then you see in most people today.
Skip: well more people today are preoccupied with material things.
Russ: right so back then, certain people could be trained to be able to lift 50 ton blocks up in the air just with their minds.
Omal: but it is necessary to focus on the engineering feat, not on the metaphysical skills due to the fact that your modern culture does not accept that, there is a different explanation.
Russ: okay, how did they get the blocks so smooth, with just sand and water then?
Omal: yes, pretty much so.
Russ: and then they lifted them with psychokinesis.
Russ: I see.
Shane: how long did it take them to build it?
Skip: probably quite a few years.
Omal: yes it was quite a few years.
Shane: about 40 or 50 years?
Omal: not quite that long, I should say it was closer to 30 but it was done in fits and starts, it wasn’t done continuously due to the environmental factors of the area such as rainy days that they could not work.
Russ: all right, now I’ve got a couple questions here that I want to work with you on while we have the time.
Russ: now last week we were discussing the subject of the correlation between the Hebrews, Egyptians and the gypsies……
Russ: and what those three would be. Now so far in my trip to the library today, what I’ve come up with and what my personal library holds is that the main connecting key between all three is the tarot deck.
Shane: what’s a tarot deck?
Skip: it’s a deck of cards.
Russ: that's a deck of cards like this and the tarot deck is used to foretell the future, past……
Omal: the possibilities.
Russ: possibilities right. See that’s a tarot deck, that’s my personal deck. It's held up to 78 cards. Now the Hebrews use the Kaballah….
Russ: which in conjunction with the tarot deck forms a very powerful sort of we’ll call it magic….
Russ: until we come up with a better term. Now, in dealing with the book I’m working with now, there were certain layouts that were used that were more powerful than others.
Russ: now what I don’t understand is the ability of why, is that merely the focusing upon that layout?
Omal: correct, for the individuals, it is a set pattern that is very strong. If I was to tell you that a eight sided octagon was a very powerful object…
Omal: and I was tell you from very young that it was a very powerful object…
Omal: it would become a very powerful object for you.
Russ yes indeed.
Omal: so therefore if you’re told when you’re learning something that something has a very strong spiritual significance and has a very powerful focusing effect, then it becomes so.
Russ: I see, okay.
Omal: why do you think something like this has a very strong powerful effect? (Omal holds up a crystal ball sitting near Mark's body.)
Russ: because the fact is we’ve been told it is.
Omal: that’s correct.
Omal: why not this?
Russ: because the fact that that's merely an energy crystal.
Omal: correct, but you haven’t been told that it can become very powerful.
Omal: a crystal ball has always because of its sheer difficultness to achieve has been special and so therefore it has spiritual significance.
Russ: so in this case we come to the question of knowledge….
Russ: and which knowledge we know and which knowledge we acknowledge as being powerful……
Omal: okay could you hold on to your questions for a second?
Russ: Shane’s just left.
Omal: Shane just left, we still do not have a technician. He had some more questions that he wanted answered.
Russ: okay well it's just me and Skip for now I mean…
Russ: we’re kind a roughing with just the bare elements is all we got here.
Skip: yeah, right.
Omal: yes, everybody is bouncing up and down.
Skip: yeah right.
Russ: okay let me go on the next stuff.
Russ: okay now, in the past according to Biblical Scripture, Jesus was conceived from Mary through an angel that visited her. Now as we know, angels were often described in the Bible as these visitors from God….
Russ: but in our modern times we've learned that angels in the Bible often concerned extraterrestrials…..
Russ: who were visiting the planet. So if we were to take this, then the conception was planned and executed from the very beginning to bring Jesus and his consciousness onto the planet.
Russ: so my question is, who was Jesus’ real father?
Omal: that has been hidden in the records.
Russ: ahh, so we’ll never find that one out unless we actually find it out ourselves.
Omal: correct, or ask him.
Russ: that would be a good question next time he happens to wander through our sessions.
Russ: okay, all right now....
Omal: yes, which I believe is about nine years away.
Russ: nine years? I can wait.
Omal: yes, patience.
Russ: okay, I’ll save this question for that point. Now here’s my next question. Okay, we already have established that all futures are possible…
Russ: okay, then conversely, all pasts are possible.
Omal: all pasts have happened.
Russ: all pasts have happened, right. Now, does this affect the past life regressions that I did?
Omal: because as a rule, a person will follow a particular line…
Omal: following a particular sequencing......
Omal: but occasionally you will find individuals that have crossed from one to the other for reasons being such as needing the experience from a different timeline….
Omal: or parallel universe, that is possible in a different future.
Omal: you will have to excuse me, I have just had a drunk young lady fall over me.
Russ: I was wondering why you said future when you meant past.
Omal: yes, I have this little….
(Russ laughs, Skip chuckles.)
Omal: inebriated Durondedunn apologizing profusely.
Russ: well I would assume that was the problem that arose all of a sudden. Now then, to go on with this question…
Russ: is it only what our souls have perceived then that we are actually experiencing in our past lives?
Omal: that is correct, it is what the experience of the soul is prepared to reveal what is necessary for you to learn from at that time which has been discussed by yourself and others.
Russ: okay, now the soul which is with me now......
Russ: remembers those past lives which I have experienced. Now the other question I have, am I connected to all those other aspects that have split off from that soul from those various times?
Omal: because how can a past life experience with other past lives of the same period of time? Crossing over would be a very confusing and very difficult and dangerous experience. It would be like having multiple personalities clashing all at the same time within one individual.
Russ: oh, like a "Sybil" kind of thing.
Omal: I believe I do know that story.
Russ: right. All right so now basically when I do a past life regression….
Russ: and someone has done something but you know for a fact through historical records that somebody actually did that same thing but was another person is because of parallel lifetimes that you're seeing the conflict there.
Omal: we do not have access to parallel timelines due the fact that we are already on those parallel timelines.
Russ: you lost me. Yeah I know it’s a confusing subject to get into but….
Omal: did you understand it.........? Okay….
Omal: we do not, I will repeat myself, we do not have access to parallel timelines because there is an aspect of us already on those parallel timelines.
Skip: in other words, it’s actually happening.
Skip: it’s present.
Omal: correct. There could be a channeling session with myself channeling on another parallel timeline.
Skip: uh-huh, okay in other words, it’s actually the present.
Omal: okay, you have some more questions do you not?
Skip: what you’re saying then, that the parallel life forms or life aspects is happening at the present, the same as ours is happening right now?
Omal: correct, correct, or an aspect of it. It may not be….it could be you that is channeling me Skip, it could be Russ, it could even be Velvet.
Russ: in parallel lifetimes.
Omal: in fact, in all the parallel times, that is probably the case.
Skip: hmm, okay. So then to try to cross over into that parallel life would be nothing but chaos?
Omal: correct, it would serve no purpose.
Skip: it would be a mess, big mess.
Omal: the individual would go crazy.
Skip: a big mess.
Omal: yes, very big mess. Okay, next question.
Russ: okay, you guys…..I’ve got questions that I want to get before but if you guys, if you have anything?
Skip: no, go ahead, I’m going to have to head down the hill anyhow because my time isn't my own anymore.
Russ: go ahead Velvet.
Velvet: okay, my question is can….isn’t things like the....what's it called? The pyramid.....
Velvet: like a pyramid that's really ancient, can it fall apart really easy? I mean like hammered or something if I touch it?
Omal: it depends on what you define as falling the pieces easily. I could destroy a pyramid quite easily with a….what you would call a nuclear device or with explosives but yet if I was to sit on the top with a sledgehammer, I could not break it that easy.
Russ: take care Skip.
Skip: can I interrupt you a minute Omal?
Skip: I’m going to have to leave, I got to go down the hill, my time isn't my own.
Omal: drive carefully.
Skip: you have a nice evening.
Velvet: bye Omal.
Russ: well Omal, it’s just me and you now.
Omal: just like old times.
Russ: just like old times.
Omal: yes, I do apologize, I have Tia suspended by her fingers so she could not interfere. (Though his psychokinesis ability.)
Russ: ahh, excellent, thank you. Okay, all right now, a book I was looking at…..or actually I wasn’t looking at…..I was looking at the title, I don’t have access to the book itself. And….
Omal: sorry, Tia is hissing at me.
Russ: I can well understand why she would. It’s by a gentleman named George Sassoon…..
Russ: and it’s called The Manna Machine and this is all about how he has built a replica of the Ark of the Covenant of the Hebrews and he shows that it was actually a nuclear device that could produce Manna. Yeah I know, I’ll have to get the book and check it out myself but I have no idea of how he came up with this or how he figured this one out.
Omal: it could be a nuclear device or it could be used as a nuclear device.
Russ: but that was the question I had is that it sounds so far-fetched, how could it?
Omal: because the mind's can create whatever is necessary, it is a focusing device the same as this is a focusing device.
Omal: a crystal is a focusing device, this is a focusing device.
Russ: we can't make a nuclear machine out of a small round crystal….
Russ: we can?
Omal: yes, you create the material through……
Russ: I see.
Omal: it takes a very good manifestor or a lot of individuals manifesting together with a common goal which is?
Russ: meta-concert. (Laughs)
Omal: and Tia even in her drunken state was quite correct in how she has weaved everything together.
Russ: quite correct, not bad for being that smashed.
Omal: very smashed.
Russ: okay, now………
Omal: you think I should let her down?
Russ: I suppose so, I think she’ll be a good girl from this point.
Omal: well I could get a healer to sober her up but I think that would take away the fun.
Russ: I can imagine, yeah. Speaking of the meta-concert phase…..
Russ: last week we were working with Skip…..
Russ: and doing meta-concert practice.
Russ: now at that point, Skip was working as the executive and me as conductor.
Omal: yes, you do need to work on your conducting ability.
Russ: agreed, but it felt better working as conductor than as executive, is that just a natural ability then?
Omal: yes, it is not necessarily a natural ability, it is relieving the executive position which you weren’t suited for because you were concerned with getting everything right and refocusing the energy properly and firing it properly and doing all the myriad of things to do. Skip did it and he is used to making those executive decisions.
Russ: hmm, well that’s good, I mean okay then in the future then when we do these meta-concert practices that Skip is here working that same phase?
Omal: correct, yes.
Russ: now if he’s not here, I suppose training for the executive position should be somewhere on my list of things to do.
Omal: yes, it is always useful to have more than one function.
Omal: what happens if you set up a meta-concert and the executive suddenly finds himself throwing up in a corner or is incapacitated in some way?
Russ: or if there is a healing meta-concert we have to do…..
Russ: and the current executive has no knowledge of the healing process that has to be done.
Russ: right, I step in and take that role over.
Omal: correct. Okay…...
Russ: that’s all I got for now my friend.
Omal: just as well.
Omal: live long and prosper.
Russ: farewell Omal.
Omal: okay, I’ll be back.
Russ: okay. (chuckles)
(Kiri takes the place of Omal.)
Russ: uh-huh, Kiri?
Russ: I had to assume it was you since Tia I doubt would be….
Three: yes, Tia is…..
Russ: in the pyramid.
Kiri: in the pyramid.
Russ: I figured that much, oh my God. Hey darling?
Russ: since you’re handy….
Russ: I'll ask you a couple questions real quick.
Russ: hey working on the tarot, seems to be our current....one of our current focuses that we are doing at the present time. I’m still not really sure on how that sucker works.
Kiri: the what?
Russ: tarot decks.
Kiri: tarot decks?
Kiri: I’m not a tarot reader.
Russ: I know you’re not but you have knowledge of just about everything in the entire universe.
Kiri: oh thank you, flattery will get you everything.
Russ: I know, so why don’t you give me some information on that?
Kiri: because it is a focusing end, each thing has a significant function.
Russ: I knew you had information on that.
Russ: (chuckles) I know you.....
Kiri: now that’s a perfect way to keep Tia occupied.
Russ: and what’s that?
Kiri: you don’t want to know.
Russ: stick her on Lyka?
Kiri: no Lyka’s still having her nose tended, I think she’s broken her nose.
Russ: oh my God.
Kiri: she was standing on her hands and went down, okay at first she was showing off for the Cubs but.....
Russ: Cubs had a good time sure.
Kiri: yes, but Teene is…
Russ: that’s where our technician went off to. So that's why Omal said just as well.
Russ: it’s degenerating quick.
Kiri: no, I wouldn’t say degenerating, Teene told me on the I-mode that Tia was getting rambunctious and she needs tying down in one place and tiring out.
Russ: well Teene’s a good person for that.
Kiri: in fact, Teene’s just relayed to me that…….that is a very kind thing for Teene to do.
Russ: what'd she do?
Kiri: she’s going to take Kiri in to see Mark make sure that Tia stays put.
Russ: thank her for me won't you?
Kiri: yes, that is some…..
Russ: hey babe, this pyramid I got has gotten a little bit dirty, copper is kind of starting to look a little bit dull, what's the word on cleaning this?
Kiri: as Brasso.
Kiri: yeah or get your Dremmel thingee out, it has a soft thing.
Russ: nah, I would take too much work, too much metal to cover. So take some Brasso and work it out?
Russ: hmm, what's going to be the benefit from that?
Kiri: it would be brighter, shinier and more focusing, more reflective.
Russ: how's that work on the etheric?
Kiri: it heightens it.
Russ: hmm, now how is it going to affect the energy of the whole household do you think? Of course it will be beneficial but I mean to what point will it be beneficial?
Kiri: it would be a higher spiritual level but you have to remember that there is a line through the house at the moment.
Russ: a line through the house?
Kiri: yeah, you have the pyramid energy in this room….
Kiri: and then you have Mark’s hunting energy down there which runs a line through the house and forms a circle.
Russ: I forgot about that.
Kiri: yeah, why you so concerned about it? Karra was asking me.
Russ: yeah and Karra had good reason to ask..
Russ: I’m still real….
Kiri: shaky on it.
Russ: yeah real bad.
Kiri: but you have to remember, Mark was trained, you weren't.
Russ: well I understand that and I had no problem up until this morning.
Kiri: why what happened?
Russ: well I came into the room down here right?
Russ: and Linda was down here and she said she had a real weird experience.
Kiri: yeah, I heard about that.
Russ: and because of that experience I was wondering just how well is Mark keeping these energies in control? I mean is there like a leak between the rooms or something? I mean I had to ask some questions at that point that Linda couldn’t answer and I........
Kiri: it is a positive entity, it is Diana’s namesake…
Kiri: and that is the mistress of the hunt. They have a specific function and they will not harm anybody that is not related to the function that they are working on.
Russ: wonderful, well since we're on tape, I’ll just as Mark then to please be a little more communicative about this.
Kiri: yes, he does get a little bit lacking on communication.
Russ: since I can’t work with him on this due to the fact that I am not of that nature.
Russ: communication of course would be more important than my actually working on it.
Kiri: yes, well tell him to talk to you. What caused the situation if I'm getting this right is that Linda wanted to open up and she was having difficulty opening up and it was suggested that she would go down in there and sit and feel the energy of Diana.
Kiri: yeah, she was all for it and she went down there and sat down there and she communicated with her.
Kiri: and she was very spiritually open.
Russ: well what was the three knock thing? Well I heard there is a door opening between the dimensions……
Kiri: uh-huh, it’s asking permission to come in.
Kiri: it’s sort of like…..
Russ: now what do I do if I hear three knocks on the door okay? That’s kind of what my question comes about at this point, open the door up or what?
Kiri: well you ask it if you want to come in and let it communicate or just let it get to know you or if you don’t, say "do not enter, go in light", simple as that.
Russ: what if it comes in?
Kiri: it won’t.
Russ: what if I let it come in?
Kiri: if you let it come in? It’s not going to harm you, it’s going to be curious of you like you are of it.....
Russ: well sure.
Kiri: or her.
Russ: and how do I deal with energies like that? I mean like do I make them tea or something?
Kiri: that might be a way to go, be nice to them. Remember, it’s not an entity, what is Diana?
Russ: Diana’s an entity.
Kiri: no, she’s not an entity.
Russ: she is a goddess.
Kiri: that’s right.
Russ: goddesses are entities.
Kiri: yes, treat her with respect. She’s older than you are.
Kiri: and she’s a continuing life form.
Russ: unless you count all my past lives then I’m older than she is.
Kiri: probably about the same age but she has all her abilities developed.
Russ: yeah, good point.
Kiri: and the best way to describe Diana is a young lady that has a fun-loving streak, the goddess of the hunt and the moon.
Kiri: and just as the moon goes through phases, she goes through phases as an actual woman does.
Russ: okay, well I’ve dealt with Herne before....
Russ: so I know him well enough but I have never dealt with Diana yet so.....
Kiri: and Herne's not a bad character either.
Russ: no, Herne's was kinda cool, I’ve worked with him.
Kiri: yeah, I mean my impression is that he would be very well at home wearing sunglasses. In fact my impression.......
Russ: shorts, T-shirt, sunglasses, something like that......
Kiri: is shirt, sunglasses, sitting on a beach......
Russ: that's about right.
Kiri: sipping a glass of wine.
Russ: that's Herne. Oh yeah, I'll agree to that.
Kiri: yeah, I mean he’s a very hip dude.
Kiri: uh-huh, he hasn't shown up yet but when he does, then things will start to move for Mark that he’ll be able to be......
Russ: well Herne is one person that I would be more than willing to let in due the fact that my previous associations with that God anyway.
Kiri: yeah, he’s a fun-loving dude..
Russ: now isn’t he the other half of Diana?
Kiri: yes, Herne the Hunter.
Russ: right, of course.
Kiri: uh-huh, they don’t normally work together because they work together in a different way.
Kiri: they won’t attend the same sort of ceremonies.
Russ: now let’s talk about the energies involved here real quick, Diana and Herne.
Russ: you know, we’re talking very old?
Russ: been on this earth a while.
Russ: now is this going back to what we’re talking about in the realms of Devas as far as what Omal and I were talking about?
Kiri: yeah, pretty close, they’re kind of very, very….
Russ: Atlantean energies that still have not left this planet.
Kiri: that would be a very good way to describe them.
Russ: that’s how I thought it was.
Kiri: uh-huh, you wanted them around didn’t you?
Russ: of course.
Kiri: you got at least one of them and if you’re very, very lucky you may have two of them wandering around. What are you going to do one morning when you wake up and go out in your backyard and there’s a stag standing in the middle of your yard with full antlers?
Russ: it wouldn’t bother me too much, scare that cats like all hell.
Kiri: do you know what I would do?
Kiri: I would go back into the kitchen, grab a bottle wine, uncork it, fill up a bowl and get some sunglasses. Oh well.
Russ: you gone?
Kiri: yeah, I got one last person.
Russ: okay, bye babe.
Kiri: see you dude.
(Karra returns one last time to close out the session.)
Karra: hello dear.
Russ: good evening my love, how you doing?
Karra: not too bad, I have to go and wash my hands but it got explained to me that she was standing on her hands, she tried to stand on one hand and she had to try to pick up her glass a wine so that she could drink it and her arm gave out, her good arm, her normal arm and she went bang, straight down, straight on her nose.
Russ: she should have used her other arm.
Karra: she should have, yes. She went straight down, smashed her nose to pieces and I’m surprised she didn’t do more damage actually. She’s going to have if she wants to have her nose restored to its shape, she's going to have to have surgery.
Russ: no doubt.
Russ: all right darling, let’s get to it.
Karra: okay, you want me to take my clothes off?
Russ: oh baby, you know me.
Karra: how much time do we have left?
Russ: not much.
Russ: now, what's the word on Diana....
Russ: how do we do this?
Karra: what do you want to do?
Russ: I want to get to know her. I mean like I say that….
Karra: ask Mark, ask Mark to introduce you to her.
Russ:: so basically what I’m going to be doing is not being involved but being involved.
Karra: you could be the outside watcher.
Russ: what’s that?
Karra: kind of a safety valve.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Karra: and he needs a safety valve, a safety net, somebody that can yank him back if he gets as Kiri put it, delusions of grandeur.
Karra: knowing everything could be harmful for you if you know what I mean.
Karra: because there are certain techniques that he would probably use that to you would seem….
THE TAPE ENDS
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