(Tia starts the
channeling session off)
(starts in a long
conversation with a cat in the room in Durondedunn)
Russ: okay, everything checks. Alright, ready
to rock and roll.
(Tia continues her conversation with
Tia: what does the chronometer say?
Tia: 8:41. Okay, you want to pause
that? I have a mission, I have a mission.
Tia: okay we're back on the air and
she wasn't there.
Russ: I said bummer.
Tia: okay, down to business.
Russ: okay. All right darling, I've
got to work on Tia's tips.
Tia: Tia's tips on astral travel.
Russ: I'd like to get something on
this one. I want to put a couple of sections in,
from the other night that I'm working on right now
and one from maybe tonight.
Tia: uh-huh, well there's also some
that Mark e-mailed to you or I e-mailed to you.
Tia: you have that still?
Russ: I've got it all. I've got it, I
haven't got it online yet.
Tia: okay. You're
probably.......you're going to have to rearrange the
Russ: I usually do.
Tia: because I mean it's 90% me
through Mark but Mark was totally conscious whilst
we were doing it so there's probably spelling
because I was dictating to him fast and he would go
"whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa....slow down, slow
down, slow down, in English please, in English please."
Russ: why didn't you just record it?
Russ: should have just recorded it.
Tia: recorded it where?
Russ: on a tape recorder.
Tia: well it's easier for you. All's
you have to do is transpose it from one place to
another. You just take that and email it
Tia: correct the spelling and put it
more in line.....what's the word? Add in the
grammatical phrasing and everything and probably
turn some of it around, take
out a line, put it somewhere else because I'm pretty
sure that Mark doing dictation isn't as fast as or
as good as if I was typing it. But there again,
English isn't one of my stronger suits writing.
Russ: that's true. Well I did get Kiri
and Karra's online.
Tia: oh but you haven't got me.
Russ: you're on there.
Tia: but you haven't got......you've
only got my bio.
Russ: bio yeah, that's all I've got
for them too.
Tia: oh. But yet you've got Taal down.
Russ: well Taal and Omal were the
first ones on the tape.
Russ: there's just you saying, "okay,
well I'm going to put on the first speaker right
now." And then there is you going, "okay,
here's the next speaker now." There is not a lot
that really fits in as a big subject matter there.
And I mean you didn't really talk a whole lot that
session. We didn't really get into long
conversations I don't
Tia: why? Was there somebody else here
talking as well?
Russ: no, we had Kiri and....
Tia: no I mean down there.
Tia: where you are as
opposed to me being up here, was there somebody else
in the room?
Tia: oh, it was just you and us?
Russ: yeah, me and you guys.
Tia: I thought maybe Johnny might have
been present or.....
Russ: no, this is the one that we did
upstairs in the room.
Tia: oh, that one when Sandy was here.
Russ: no, this was the week after I
Russ: because this is Project
Haarp. Remember the one where we were working
on project Haarp and Taal came in?
Tia: oh yes.
Russ: I can't remember, you remember
that probably better than I do. Did you spend much
time talking on that one?
Tia: no, not that much because it was
a very crammed session.
Russ: yeah because I spent a lot of
time with Omal on that. So far I've only got through
Tia: I think I'm on more towards the
Russ: yeah, that probably wasn't stuff
we can really work with. But anyway, if we can get
something tonight, then we'll go ahead and we'll
add.......I can add that on.
Tia: oh that's the session, when
Katrina.......when Taal left and Katrina was still
Russ: oh that's right, yeah there is
not a lot of workable stuff on that one.
Russ: well let's put some workable
stuff on tonight's session.
Tia: okay, astral travel.
Tia: okay, let us look closely at the
various types of astral travel. There is dream
travel, which is the most common of all types of
astral travel. Most people at some time in their
life experience astral travel in a dream form. There
is the second type, involuntary astral travel. This
occurs when somebody is not feeling at their peak
and they wish to escape whatever ailment that they
have. And sometimes whilst lying in certain
environments, for example a warm sunny area that is
comfortable, they will feel their body floating up
above their physical body and this is the second
type of astral travel as I said, involuntary astral
travel. Okay, the third type of astral travel
is.....would be better to call it more along the
lines of remote viewing. This is where you almost
leave your body and yet you're still connected and
you stretch out over a long distance or a short
distance even and you are able to view what you are
looking at but yet also hear the noises from the
surrounding area of your physical body. You can also
answer questions in this state. This state is quite
easy because all's you do is achieve a meditational
state where you are still conscious but yet you are
also disconnected from your physical body. Okay, the
fourth type of astral travel is where you actually,
physically leave your body. You are aware of your
body, you are aware of noises but they are more
remote and distant like a noise coming from a great
distance. This is one of the more harder types of
astral travel to do because it involves consciously
programming your destination on where you wish to go
whilst still leaving your body and being aware of
your body. This is the type of astral travel that
novices use. As I said, it is one of the more
difficult types but it is also quite easy to do
because it is a programmed thought process that you
go through whilst meditating. Okay the next type of
astral travel or astral travel type five is where
you physically leave your body in the astral form,
you are no longer conscious of your body, it no
longer matters. This normally comes after a lot of
practice and experience as an astral traveler. I
myself use this method. This method involves
shutting down all unnecessary functions of the body
which also includes hearing, taste, smell and touch.
You are no longer aware of your surroundings. You
are free to astral travel to wherever you wish as
far as your stamina will take you. Finally, type six
astral travel. This is where you travel as I
described in type five but you also manipulate not
only the third dimension so you can travel but the
fourth dimension and other dimensions. This is one
the most hardest types of astral travel to do. Now
of these various categories, there are sub-types.
Involuntary dream travel, that is also very common.
Voluntary astral travel in an involuntary status.
What I mean by that is astral traveling and desiring
to do so but achieving it without desire. There are
also other numerous sub-types of astral travel as I
have mentioned. These are just a few of the types of
astral travel as opposed to the sub-types of astral
travel. Now, there is another sub-type of astral
travel which is where you are no longer conscious of
your body, your body has been as you might say
parked into a level of awareness where it is not
aware of its physical surroundings. This again is a
very hard type of astral travel that I'm about to
describe and this is where you leave your body but
you assume a physical form in the physical world but
in the astral form. Sometimes you are actually
visible to other people but more frequently you are
not. Individuals that are trained astral travelers
in this can also detect other astral travelers that
are in this status. For example, the
Dalai Lama, he can see those people that are astral
traveling in that form or most forms come to that.
There is another lama high up in the Himalayas that
frequently has visitors from all over the world.
Okay, now do you have questions Russell?
Russ: yeah, let's go it
from the last part forward and that is
first off, how do you train yourself to be able see
other people astral projecting like the Dalai Lama
and the other lama?
Tia: that comes from actually
achieving their level of awareness that they are
master astral travelers themselves and therefore
they know what to look for, they know the feeling of
Russ: well for example, what about
Mark? Would he he able to do the same thing?
Tia: I think if he thought about it
and practiced, I mean he can sense me when I'm
Russ: yeah but he can't see you or
Tia: I don't think he desires to. It's
just the fact that I'm bouncing around and nine
times out of ten, I want to see what he's doing. For
example, he could be washing the dishes.
Russ: hmmm, okay well what I'm
thinking is that this is a very useful skill.
Russ: that would come in handy in
emergencies or something else and would it be wise
to pursue this at all?
Tia: for what purpose?
Russ: well for example, if you needed
to warn somebody about something, I mean you and
Mark wouldn't matter because you could
just talk to him.......
Russ: but like another astral
traveler, the person would have to be good as Mark
Russ: we won't find that.
Okay, the next question I've got is, what about the
kind of astral travel which I believe goes into
category five in which somebody is in an
Russ: and they leave their body and
have no sense of it?
Tia: no that comes under involuntary
astral travel. It is one of the sub-types.
Russ: that they wish to be gone from
Tia: yes it is a trauma induced astral
Russ: okay, then what about when
somebody's working with fasting or something?
Tia: again, that is a trauma induced
astral travel because your body no longer has the
necessary sugar levels or iron levels or any of the
particular levels that it is used to, it is induced
into an astral travel state.
Russ: hmmm. Okay, I can see where that
would be more harmful then.
Tia: that's correct, it is a
trauma induced astral travel.
Tia: trauma to me is a big wide field.
I bite Mark's finger, guess what I've just done?
Tia: I've induced trauma to it.
Russ: oh I see.
Tia: I stand up, I throw Mark's body
down on the ground, I break a leg, I've induced
trauma. Or I accidentally step on a piece of metal
and it penetrates the skin and there
is a little pinprick of blood that comes out, I've
induced trauma. It is a big wide area for me. I know
trauma is most frequently associated with some kind
of massive accident.
Russ: right. Okay, when a person
wishes to appear somewhere else in the physical
form, this is known as D-jumping correct?
Tia: kind of, kind of. D-jumping
is where you actually strip down your whole entire
physical third dimensional being, bones, blood, all
the way down to the molecular level and then you
translate it to somewhere else.
Tia: you translate it and rotate it to
a different point of origin or goal.
Russ: ahh I see.
Tia: like a teleport. Are you going to
put down when I talk about trauma the fact that I
actually bite Mark's finger and
pull off a piece of skin?
Russ: I'll put it in parentheses.
Tia: yeah, but getting back to D-jumping,
as I said is like teleporting, that
you take down your physical form, break it down to a
molecular level and then relocate it elsewhere.
Russ: now a lot of people find that
there is something inherently scary about astral
travel in the fact that you have the possibility of
leaving your body behind. I've heard this
Russ: where they're worried they might
not be able to come back or they can get sick from
it or they can be possessed, how do you answer these
Tia: I answer them by saying they are
all possible. However, the chances of your body
being possessed depends on where and how far
advanced you are in astral travel. Most possessions
occur with a experienced astral traveler but yet has
become lax, has got himself involved or herself
involved in things that are best not to be involved
in therefore their body becomes a gateway. Getting
lost from one's body, yes that can happen and that
normally happens to novice astral
travelers but it is not a permanent condition. They
may lose their body and can't figure out how to get
back and by wandering around, they will find their
body or they will find somebody that guides them
back. As somebody that may possess, there are also
people that protect and will guide astral forms back
to their point of origin. What was the last
Russ: sicken and die.
Tia: sicken and die, again it is
possible to pick up sicknesses but this is because
the astral traveler does not take care of their body
in advance and this is easily remedied by getting
enough sleep, eating the correct diets and taking
precautions before and after. Some of the
precautions that are useful to take before for a
novice astral traveler is maybe a shower, a warm
shower so that your body is perfectly clean and
again when you return, you would wash your body to
wash all the negative energy that you might've
picked up away. Also being totally relaxed and
totally energized. If you have a low level of
energy, you are certainly going to lower your immune
levels and astral traveling does drain the physical
body as well as the astral body of energy. If you
reach a point where you are very low on energy and
you're astral traveling, it lowers your immune
system in your physical body and again you can pick
up ailments. But this can be cured as I
said quite easily by getting the correct amount of
sleep, showering, eating correctly and behaving in a
way that induces a relaxed status and yet helps to
energize the body.
Russ: hmm okay. Now is
there anything that you should do concerning the use
of shields in your practice of astral travel?
Tia: not really to start off with,
once you get into the higher levels of astral
travel, then shielding does play a part in your
physical......no, your astral form. Let me explain
the levels of astral travel. There is obviously
novice, very little experience on astral travel.
Adept, which has some experience and tends to astral
travel in a localized area of up to about 300 miles.
Adept, somebody that is quite experienced in astral
travel and can travel maybe a 1,000, 2,000 mile
radius in astral travel. Master, this is somebody
that can astral travel and go explanatory
but not very far, maybe as far as your moon. Also
they have lots of stamina and are quite experienced
at astral traveling. Normally this comes after about
five years. Grand Master. These are the bad asses of
the astral travel world and I mean that in a
positive way. They are like, how would you describe
it? They're good. They can go explanatory, distance
them starts to become irrelevant. Two, three light
years, that's like getting up and walking across the
room for them. 10, 20 light years, that's like
walking down to the end of the street. 50, a hundred
light years, now we're getting into this serious
range of them, they
do that on a regular basis or can do it on a regular
basis. They can also, some of them who are border
point to the next level actually transpose to
different dimensions. Okay, the last level,
Paramount Grand Masters. These are the elite, the
best and I estimate that there's probably no more
than maybe 50 on your whole entire planet if that
many and I have just been corrected, it is more like
a dozen on your planet and these are the real heavy
dudes. Very serious, distance totally irrelevant.
Walk across the galaxy, no problem. Walk to the next
next galaxy, no problem. To the next galaxy, now
you're starting to stretch
a little bit but they can do it. They can dimension
jump to different dimensions. Fourth, fifth, sixth
dimension is a bit of a workout for them but it
doesn't present too much of a problem. These are the
individuals that have a 50 to 60% chance of
ascending to the next level in evolution. These are
the individuals that can be a little bit on the
strange side. They can be very cranky, they can be
very arrogant, they can be very nice, very mellow,
very relaxed, very helpful, very protective all at
same time almost. This is because they are
developing to a higher level.
of the house cats interrupts the session)
wants to know where her cubs are. These Paramount Grand
are the individuals that as I said can be very
protective. Not only of themselves but of their
knowledge and the people around them. They are
capable of all levels of astral travel. From remote
viewing, to dimension jumping, to traveling great
distances, they also have a lot of curiosity.
Russ: hmm, are there any that we would
know from public life like for example the Dalai
Russ: he would be one?
Tia: he is a border point Paramount
Grand Master or he could be a Grand Master.
Russ: okay but we don't
know any Paramount Grand Master's in the public life?
Russ: and they stay to themselves. I
mean what kind of life would they be living? Austere
and away from everybody?
Russ: oh eccentric.
Tia: uh-hmm. You see Mark is almost a
Paramount Grand Master.
Russ: yeah, his distance still needs
Tia: uh-huh. But also the other part
of a Paramount Grand Master is the speed of thought.
They can travel to anywhere, anytime, anyplace just
by thinking about it. Closing their eyes, sit down,
relax, think of where they want to go, bang! They're
Russ: and what about their body here?
Tia: their body here works fine on its
Russ: okay. Now another
question I have is, for a Grand Master or Paramount
Grand Master or even a Master....
Russ: what about when they're doing
long-distance trips or any trip of any duration
whatsoever. Does their body......is it able to
rejuvenate while they are out of it?
Russ: so they live a shorter lifetime
Tia: not necessarily, not necessarily,
of them inherently have a long life expectancy.
Russ: yes but if their body's not
rejuvenating itself and let's say they're not taking
really good care of it?
Tia: normally, if they're not taking
real good care of themselves, they do burn
Russ: okay. So just for a warning for
people to keep their health a priority.
Tia: yeah or at least to keep active
enough to keep their body ticking along nicely.
Russ: ahh, excellent.
Okay well that should do it for now then.
(says goodbye in
Russ: bye love.
(says something else
Tia: oh you better put parentheses in
on that that "Foawer"
Russ: I don't know even how to spell
Tia: Freaaaaooow but quickly.
Russ: fower..okay well.
Tia: well you work it out.
Russ: I'll work it out.
(Omal joins the session next)
Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ
and how are you functioning?
Russ: greetings Omal, oh quite well.
Working hard and I'm afraid that Durondedunn loses a
bit in the spelling translation when you get down to
Omal: yes I imagine it would.
Russ: in fact many of the languages
I'm sure from like Sirian all the way to Durondedunn
is little tough to translate into our English
spelling alphabet since I'm sure they don't include
the same letters.
Omal: I am quite sure that they do not
also. Okay, let us proceed.
Russ: all righty.
Omal: notes from the commander's desk.
Russ: (chuckles) currently I just sent
off all the stuff we did on Tesla and the Tunguska
Russ: and that's just the first
Russ: because that took up four pages
alone. I haven't even gotten yet to Project Haarp
and the Montauk and all that stuff that came on
Russ: this is a chore. What I'll do is
I'll have two different sections and dated for the
Russ: I'll put the end of the Tunguska
that this ends this section. For more conversations
after this, look for subjects that are dated the
Omal: okay. Also, as was stated in the
past, you might want to get somebody type it up for
you that is a quicker typist.
Russ: yeah that would be a good idea
but then we come to a problem of who.
Omal: who, yes who?
Russ: that might be little bit tricky
and cost some money I think. Well we'll work on
that. Okay, at present I am currently working on
some past UFO discoveries leading to present day
Russ: and what I'm looking at is
something called the YB-49.
Russ: developed by a gentleman named
Russ: back...and it lasted from 1948
Omal: would that be the flying wing?
Russ: that would be the first
prototype of the flying wing
Russ: and it is closely linked date-wise....(John
walks in)......hey Johnny.
John: hey guys.
Russ: Omal's here.
Russ: and geography wise to the
recovery of the Roswell saucer.
Russ: I believe the Roswell saucer was
recovered in '48?
Russ: and then all of a sudden you see
this flying wing being attempted to be created.
Omal: actually the flying wing does go
back a little bit earlier.
Omal: it was a design that was
designed towards the end of your second great
planetary war. There is a very easy way to find out
more about this. Mark has an assignment.
Omal: watch Weekday Wings for
Northrop's flying wing.
Russ: oh okay. That will give us some
Omal: more than you wish for.
Russ: I'm sure. Well the original, the
YB-49 turned out to be the B-47.
Russ: the YB-49 was just a few
prototypes that never really worked as where the
B-47 flying wing, turned out two thousand of them.
That generally in turn......because that was a
radical departure from typical aircraft design at
Russ: and that led to the B-2 and the
B-2 became successful compared to the original
flying wings due to the fact that all of a sudden
the computer technology advanced to a level where it
could be mounted into a plane.
Omal: correct and also the engine
capacity. The original flying wing was designed
Omal: correct, piston engines.
Omal: they added in, big mistake, they
added in turbo engines. When you mix turbos from a
design that is for piston, you do not take into the
fact that it is a different type of engine that has
a different type of effect on the fuselage and the
wing surface and the necessary lift generating
factors. They then added in also jet engines so that
you had a mishmash of technologies, a fuselage and
body that was designed for piston with turbines and
also jet engines. Does not work. If they had
designed it originally for jet engines that were
powerful enough, then they would not have had the
problems that they had and they would have had a
Russ: so essentially it was a design
problem with the fact that the propellers turning
causes the plane to want to twist.
Omal: no. No, not quite. Let me
reexplain what I said. The technology for the
original flying wing was designed for piston
engines. When they put turbines on, it changes the
flight characteristics of the wing. When you add
jets into the equation that have a different
turbulence factor, you again change the equation.
Omal: so you take a design of an
aircraft that is designed for one type of engine and
you mount in a totally different type of engine so
therefore the effect is very different.
Russ: I see. A computer game that came
out a few years back called "Secret
Weapons of the Luftwaffe?"
Russ: showed a jet powered flying
Russ: now was this something that was
actually on the design table of the Luftwaffe?
Russ: ahh, and what happened as far as
that? War came to an end too soon?
Omal: also if you look at this latest
reusable shuttle and also look at the "Secret
Weapons of the Luftwaffe".....
Omal: you will find it there. Slightly
different but you will find it there. If you look at
the European Space Agency's current reusable
design that they're working on, guess what?
Russ: it looks the same. So this is
basically close to a 50-year-old design.
Omal: try closer to 60.
Russ: okay, 60-year-old design
being brought into a fact where now with all our
technology and advancements, we're able to finally
make it a reality.
Omal: despite all the corruption and
twistedness of the uses of the technology, the Third
Reich was quite advanced. They ranged from 10 to 50
years ahead of their time.
Omal: or is it, little question here,
is it the fact that everybody was 50 years behind
them? Were they ahead or everybody else behind? It
is not the same.
Russ: does this mean that possibly
then they were visionaries?
Omal: I never said that.
Russ: no I know, we
just were keeping ourselves from advancing at a pace
that we should of been and they just went ahead and
advanced at a pace much faster.
Omal: it is a matter of
Omal: I am leaving it open for debate.
Russ: oh I see. Ashtar is on the
base right now isn't he?
Russ: has he heard about our
Omal: yes he has.
Russ: and how does he feel about it?
Omal: I have not discussed it with
Omal: he has been on and off the base
for the past week.
Russ: oh okay. Well at some point in
the future I would like to hopefully get him as a
guest speaker we could add in.
Omal: I will see if I can arrange it
but I must point out that Ashtar is a busy
Russ: understandable. If nothing
else, I can always take it from the archives.
Russ: I've got plenty of stuff we've
already had from him.
Russ: okay. Now then, a few UFO
projects that I've been studying which takes us
back to where we started from is Project Bluebird.
Omal: ah-hah, yes, I did
receive a report from one of my data analysts.
Russ: Project Bluebird originally was
designed to be able to not just reverse engineer
any captured extraterrestrial design but to
actually go ahead and fly those designs.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay I received an
interesting report on my desk from an individual
that went and saw a movie called "ID-4".
("Independence Day" with Will Smith)
Russ: oh, I haven't even seen that.
Omal: her report is that there are
numerous scenes and references to an area which
supposedly does not exist called Area 51.......
Omal: where they go in and they come
across a vessel that was found in 1948, they
refurbish it and they use it to defeat the
Russ: ahhh. Okay so this ties very
closely on my question at that point.
Russ: okay why all of a sudden would
a movie come out with this particular scenario
built in? It seems very timely.
Omal: uh-huh. Might I make a
Omal: it would be useful for both of
you to go and see it.
Russ: I agree, I agree,
about we work on it for tomorrow? I can get us in.
I'm going to have to pay for us
to get in.
Omal: what is wrong with the 9
Russ: sold out, they're
all sold out.
Russ: every day it's been showing it's
been sold out.
Omal: what about viewing
it from the projection room?
(due to my being a manger a
theater of the same chain)
Russ: you don't get the same effect.
Russ: possibly I might be able to get
a private showing arranged but that might take a
little bit of work. One of the things about this
is that okay we have a movie in which aliens
invade Earth, we find Project Bluebird in
Russ: and it's probably one of the
most popular movies to come out in a decade.
Omal: but sadly it predicts........portrays
aliens in a negative light. Not all aliens are
Russ: agreed. Well that's why we're
starting this webpage so that we can make sure
that at least the truth is known.
Omal: yes, you may want to highlight
the fact that I said that not all aliens are like
that. Certainly there are aliens out there but
there are also aliens out there that die
Russ: uh-huh. Hmm, which takes me to
my next question, South Africa.
Russ: 19........I don't have the date
down here.......1989 if I remember correctly......
Russ: in which a ship coming into
Omal: is tracked and....
Russ: supposedly shot
down by a experimental laser cannon from a
Mirage jet fighter.
Russ: and what we've been able to
determine through the help of Tia....
Russ: is that there was actually a
ship shot down by an unseen vessel above it.
Russ: and that the use of the laser
cannon is possibly disinformation.
Omal: no it is what they believe
actually happened, they believe it worked.
Russ: you mean they had a laser
Omal: it was a very weak laser
Omal: by standards but
very powerful by other standards. It fires a pulse
of light energy at a designated target.
Russ: that's pretty far advanced then
compared to what I've heard of before. The most
we've heard of is that they are using lasers for
targeting systems but not for anything
Omal: you're not listening hard
Russ: obviously not.
Omal: they have lasers that are quite
capable of cutting through an inch of solid steel.
Russ: I knew this but I mean still,
we're talking about from a flying object at
a long distance to make an
accurate shot and actually bring something down.
Omal: that is why they believed that
it worked. The fact is that they probably missed
Russ: well all they
saw, according to the report I saw
Omal: was a flash of light come from
Russ: a flash of light coming from it
and suddenly it started to waver. In fact no, it
was a series of flashes of lights and it started
to waver and then went down at 3,000 ft. per
Omal: that is not particularly fast.
Russ: no and then impacted
into the desert. Now from that point, they brought
the ship to a secret Air Force
Omal: yes near Kimberly.
Russ: uh-huh, and the door started to
open on the craft and then they used heavy lifting
machinery to pry it open the rest of the way. Two
aliens then got out, quite hostile and they were
promptly arrested according to this report and
then ship, crew and everything got shipped off to
Russ: and that's the
last we hear of it but apparently the
aliens were alive.......
Russ: typical gray beings with the
small statures, three clawed feet and hands or
three fingered or three toed.
Omal: and the attitude.
Russ: and the attitude of they hate
everyone. They clawed up some doctor pretty bad.
Omal: well how would you feel in that
Russ: well I'd be pretty pissed.
Omal: so do not mistake them being
upset for being hostile.
Russ: well that's just what the
Russ: now what would aliens from
another world taken prisoner have as a future to
look forward to?
Omal: it is best not to discuss it.
Even for any race, no matter how hostile, it is
not a very good prospect.
Russ: I agree.
Omal: the only thing that they can
wish for is either a quick, painless death or
rescue. The others do not leave much in the way of
Russ: well since they can't be beamed
out, I don't see much in the way of hope for
rescue but would you hypothesize then that the
ship shooting them down....
Omal: I do not hypothesize,
I only go on fact.
Russ: okay, do you think the facts
support that the ship shooting them down knew that
they would be surviving the crash and aim for a
particular point on the craft that they would?
Omal: anything that I say would be
conjecture, I cannot answer that
Russ: all right, fair enough. Johnny,
you got anything, I'm taking up all the questions
John: well yeah I just kind of popped
in. Just as far as, especially on the webpage as
far as terminology, instead of using the word
alien especially when we're referring to
Omal: yes I understand exactly what
John: a lot more correct?
Omal: you are quite correct
in what you're saying. Is a common terminology
that is used by lots of individuals all over your
planet. It is something that we grin and bear. How
much we dislike it is irrelevant, it is what is
easiest for them to understand sadly to say.
Russ: easiest to spell too.
John: but is it accurate to say that
the term alien alienates your people to a certain
Omal: it is more something that
upsets Kiri more than it upsets me. I have been
called many, many derogatory terms in my existence
so, they are words.
Russ: now question, would it be
better to say reserve extraterrestrials to
folks like yourself who are kind and benevolent
and alien to those folks like the Grays
who are not?
Omal: why discriminate against one
group for another group?
Russ: well it would
Omal: hostile alien, non-hostile
alien. Non-hostile extraterrestrial, hostile
extraterrestrial, it is all the same.
Russ: ahh okay, just
Omal: it is what is easiest for the
populist to understand.
Omal: I know this stems from a
discussion on Native Americans and Indians.
John: yeah, you took my thoughts
right out of my brain.
Russ: Johnny protector of everyone.
(John and I both start chuckling)
John: oh well.
Omal: it more comes from the term
Russ: true. Okay, the last part I
have on this is that in the same......well
further on in the reports I saw was that later
that same year, three crafts were captured in the
Nevada desert. Supposedly by some high-powered
radar that was being used that knocked out the
Omal: I think that is an erroneous
Russ: it did seem like it, I can't
see any radar would be powerful enough to knock
out some craft of any kind.
Omal: not unless you get real, real,
real close. You wish to know how close?
Russ: on top of the thing?
Omal: come here.
John: you're talking really, really
Omal: correct. In other words, they
would have to park on top of it and then no matter
what would be knocked out. Even one of our
aircraft, if it is high powered.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: a radar that is used for
bouncing radar images off of the moon surfaces.
Russ: ahh, all right. So a radar
imaging display almost?
Russ: okay. That was my whole list
right there of stuff, Johnny?
John: well I just kinda came in late.
Yeah that was the main thing that was on my mind,
the alien and the ET thing and just terminology
Russ: oh I see.
(Omal finishes signing off as the tape
comes to life)
John: see you around dude.
Omal: I'll be back.
(Tia comes back in a bouncy mood)
Tia: incy wincy spider went climbing
up the spout. Down came the rain and washed poor
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay hello.
Russ: yeah and Omal's....
John: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: Omal's transcriptions I'm doing,
having to make a few changes here and there for
two different sessions)
Tia: uh-huh yes because I get a little
bit confused. I have to....you might want to put
this in the fact that I have to translate into
English before I vocalize what I'm saying sometimes.
Russ: hmm that's true.
Tia: English is not my native tongue.
Russ: well what I found myself doing
now is making my changes in transcribing while we're
doing the tape.
Tia: so sometimes that can change the
whole entire meaning.
Russ: well that's why I've got Karra
in my head.
Tia: uh-huh yes.
Russ: the editor from.....
John: now is Omal fluent in English
where he just......
Tia: yes he is.
John: verbalizes it along with all the
other languages he knows?
Tia: oh he knows so many languages
John: right and that's different from
you, you're using a computer to translate?
Tia: no, no. I translate like you
translate Spanish, I have to think about it.
Russ: so like if you had to channel to
a group in Swahili, you'd probably getting Omal in
Tia: uh-huh. I've actually heard him
sit down and go, "hung goy fat choi".
John: which is Chinese?
Tia: uh-huh. Hung goy fat choi, Happy
New Year. I learned that from Mark actually.
Russ: oh cool. Good, so no Ashtar
Tia: fortunately no unless he pops his
head in through the door and then ohhh.
Russ: well we still have 45 minutes so
we'll see what happens here, who knows?
Tia: about 42 at the moment.
Russ: okay cool.
Russ: all right.
Tia: (says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Russ: bye love.
(Kiri has her turn next in the
channeling circle on the base)
Russ: had to make some slight changes.
John: ain't no thing.
Russ: I don't think so. Hi
Russ: I said Tiree.
Kiri: you don't speak English very
well do you? You don't speak English
very well at all.
Russ: working on it.
Kiri: oh okay.
Russ: Tiree, that's a cute name
though, I like that.
Kiri: yes I've got to go and face down
the devil later on.
Kiri: he's upset.
John: yes he is, he was upset with you
Russ: oh yeah right.
Kiri: keeping him up so late.
Russ: well you're probably looking at
the clock on Hades Base and thinking
it's 11 o'clock.
Kiri: yes I was.
Russ: and you forgot about the two
hour time difference.
Kiri: well actually it was about
10:15, yeah about 10:15 up here and he said no later
than 11 o'clock so I thought......
Russ: he meant Hades Base time.
Kiri: well I got confused all right? I
get carried away.
Russ: hey the light wasn't red yet.
(the notification signal for Mark's energy level
while away from his body)
Kiri: no, it was even flashing,
wasn't even blinking.
Russ: well there you go,
you gave it your best shot.
Kiri: yeah, it started blinking when I
took it off.
Russ: well darling, let's work on
Kiri's corner shall we?
Russ: I know from that Katrina session
we're not in a get much out of you either that
Kiri: I made a few sensible comments
before I got carried away.
Russ: did you?
Russ: I can always put those in also.
Kiri: okay Kiri's corner, meditation.
Okay, let me first of all explain flowers. Flowers
are an indigenous plant to Sirius. There are three
distinct types. There are the red ones which are a
pick-me-up. They will make
you hyper, you won't need sleep, they
make you think clearly, they can make you very silly
as well if you take too many of them. Taking one is
fine, it is a stimuli, makes you very happy. Okay,
the blue ones, these are a
depressant. They make you mellow, relaxed,
comfortable and even sleepy. If you eat more than
you should or overdose, it does not kill you, it just
puts you to sleep for quite a while. It is
not uncommon for young individuals to enjoy these
flowers and wake up a week later wondering what
happened. Okay the last type and my most favorite
type, these are the pink type. These are a sexual
aphrodisiac stimuli. Very enjoyable, heightens all
senses of awareness relating to sexual activity once
skin becomes very sensitive to touch. The erogenous
zones get very stimulated very quickly and it can
also prolong the act of lovemaking, that's why I
like them. Okay, that is a preamble on flowers.
Okay, now let me get sensible here. Meditation
techniques, hmmm. Now on Sirius there is a tradition
of deep meditation. This
is where you get in a comfortable position, you
relax and you look within yourself. You hold up your
soul as it were and analyze it to see if it is worth
what you think it is worth. You analyze
dispassionately what you have achieved. Whether it
is 58 years of life, a hundred years of life, 500
years of life, you analyze all your experiences in
this meditation status. This ties in a little bit
with the blue flowers as to keep yourself in a
non-mode of emotions, you use the blue flowers to
achieve that linear line of analyzing what you have
done. Whether it is good or bad, positive or
negative, you analyze it. You see what you did
wrong, how you should correct it. You analyze is it
a positive or a negative affect? To achieve
this meditational status, what you do is first of
all you get relaxed and you go through a standard
meditation technique of breathing. You do 20 deep,
long breaths. Then 20 short, shallow breaths. And
you repeat this on and off until you achieve the
status of peace. You may also select a mantra such
as peace and harmony, peace and harmony and you will
repeat this over and over in your mind as you take
the deep breaths. But as a novice, you might
practice saying the mantra out loud in between each
breath so that you have the deep breathing and the
mantra going at the same time. Also, you can use as
you might call it a Zen technique
which is a hum. Hmmmmmm.. Choosing a frequency that
feels as if it vibrates in a nasal cavity and in the
cavity where the third eye would be. This will
induce a almost hypnotic state and create a level of
awareness that makes it easier to review what you
have been up to.
Russ: question, have any of the
flowers from Sirius ever been attempted to be grown
on Earth? For example, back in the.....
Kiri: you're referring to the Lotus
Russ: not just the lotus but for
example the poppy which...
Kiri: is red in color.
Russ: is possibly mutated?
Kiri: that is a possibility but it
would have had to have mutated quite
radically I'm afraid.
Russ: well people mutated quite
Kiri: it is a possibility but the soil
and climate don't appear to be correct, I don't
know. We don't have the ship's manifests of when
they came to your your planet.
Russ: okay let's shoot with the lotus
Kiri: uh-huh, that's closer.
Russ: now we don't have examples of
lotuses anymore. We have stories of
what lotuses did and
that was just the fumes of them.
Russ: and this goes back of course to
Homer and the Odyssey.
Kiri: yeah....the od..ody...yeah,
Russ: right, in which the Lotus Eaters
would eat lotuses and then find themselves in that
state that we're describing here with the blue
Russ: and that sort of hints then
possibly that in time immemorial where
possibly we had some flowers that....
Kiri: immemorial is an incorrect word,
suggests perpetuity, forever.
Kiri: you might want to change that
Russ: I'll work on that.
Kiri: but we understand what
Russ: correct. All right so where do
we go from there, how do we research
something like that?
Kiri: read the Odyssey.
Kiri: it's right down there.
book was in the library in the room)
Kiri: look up myths and legends. You'll find Vishnu
in references to I believe it's lotus blossoms.
Kiri: look there. You'll also find it
in Chinese cultures, Indian cultures, the Mongols.
Not the Mongols of Genghis Khan but the moguls,
moguls of India.
Kiri: there is references in there.
There is references in...oh cricky I'm trying to
remember the famous character that rode around and
chariots in the sky. You know who I mean.
Kiri: no, no: no, no,
Russ: oh. chariots in the sky, Vishnu?
Kiri: yeah I think it might be Vishnu
but it's a particular individual that there
are references to. There are also
references........who was that
gentleman that had an interview at
Skywalker Ranch that was televised? Something about
mythology, comparing modern and ancient mythologies.
Russ: I didn't catch it.
Kiri: no, I'm sure Mark knows what it
is, ask him.
Russ: okay. Now is it possible then
that we're talking about dirt that was maybe brought
from Sirius and kept in plants or kept in pots but
later on it couldn't support the plant growth after
a few generations?
Kiri: that's quite possible yes.
Russ: okay, you've
heard of that where the soil will die out due to too
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh, yeah. That is
quite possible that that occurred that
as I said, I don't know, they
didn't keep the ship's manifests.
Kiri: I mean it's possible that
individuals so longing for home, decided they would
bring home with them.
Russ: makes sense to me.
Kiri: or, they were so addicted to
these darn things.
Russ: but they're non-addictive?
Kiri: it's a psychological addiction.
Russ: oh okay.
John: I was just going to bring that
John: too late, got to be
Kiri: when God said brains, you
thought he said drains and wanted big empty ones,
Russ: I'm trying to make clarification
for the webpage......
Russ: so that people who are listening
or reading this will understand the fact that this
was something that is non-addictive.
Russ: that you then clarified as
psychological addiction meaning that the whole
matter now is easily read.
Kiri: are you going to be putting this
Kiri: are you going to be putting this
little bit in?
Russ: this is the part that gets
Kiri: so all my wit and
humor wasted for nothing.
Russ: no, no, no, I'll put in
the fact that it is psychologically addicting.
Kiri: you're going to put that in?
Russ: I'll try to describe in
Kiri: Kiri sticks out her tongue.
Russ: something like that.
Kiri: or Kiri sticks out Mark's
Russ: you were saying?
Russ: you were saying?
Kiri: what was I saying?
Russ: prior to brains and drains?
Kiri: oh yes. Sorry, my brains empty.
wasting tape Tia just said.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: okay, do you have any
engineering questions now I've given you a lecture
John: what about the medicinal
qualities of flowers? Don't you use...
Kiri: yes they.....
John: the blue ones when you're
John: is that correct? Wouldn't that
be good to mention?
Kiri: yes it would be actually.
John: for our readers?
Kiri: actually it would be very useful
to mention that the blue flowers are used for
menstruation, cramping, bloating. It makes you in a
nice, mellow state of mind where it doesn't matter,
takes away the pain.
Russ: hmm, and have they been able to
bring those into a point where you can condense them
into a liquid, the flowers? Like an alcoholic
beverage let's say or a injectable....
John: flower essence?
Russ: or injectable essence or
something like that?
Kiri: no, no. It has been done in the
past but is no longer done because that makes it too
Russ: oh, I see.
John: any other medicinal qualities of
Kiri: yes, the pink ones do make you
John: along with increasing your
Kiri: of course, yes.
John: okay, any others before we move
on to engineering?
Kiri: no, not really.
John: I wanted to make sure we've
covered all the bases on flowers, thank you very
Kiri: you mind not banging so loud?
Russ: I'll pass that along. Okay
Kiri: oh it's outside is it?
Russ: engineering questions?
John: not right off the top of my
head, go ahead.
John: I'm sure you're full of
Russ: no, only a single
one. Talking to Omal about the engineering factors
Russ: I haven't seen the movie so I'm
just hypothesizing here.
Kiri: neither have I.
Russ: that they reverse engineer a
spaceship and use it.
Russ: well that would kind of suggest
that it already was already being able to be used.
Kiri: I haven't seen the movie, I
don't know. You're asking me to make an analysis on
something I haven't seen.
Russ: hopefully I can get Mark to see
it tomorrow with me.
Kiri: actually, I've got an idea. I'm
going to make rash comments.
Russ: oh good.
Kiri: it's a wonderful movie, go see
it, it's great, I've never seen it before.
Russ: okay. So you'll be joining us
Russ: okay, great.
John: now can Mark visualize it at the
same time you are visualizing it?
Russ: Johnny you get the night off
John: tomorrow, yes.
Kiri: I can slide into Mark's mind and
Russ: I'll buy tickets early in the
Kiri: okay, I suppose you don't need
Russ: ahh, who else is coming
John: ahhh, don't feel like that.
Kiri: Karra, actually,
I've got plans.
Russ: okay, yeah we do need Karra on.
John: you got plans?
John: yeah, looks like you've got ants
in your pants.
Kiri: I've got more plans than that.
John: there's more than ants in your
Kiri: well I personally would prefer
them in your pants and not mine.
Russ: thank you for Kiri's corner
there, we are styling now.
John: and it's been nice visiting with
Kiri: yes it has.
John: you've been frequenting our
household quite often and you seem to be a lot more
Kiri: oh thank you.
John: and I enjoy visiting with you
even though most the time you're so preoccupied with
your computer, with Mark's computer........
John: but I still enjoy the little bit
of time we spend together.
Kiri: oh thank you, I enjoy it also. I
will try to communicate more easily but
sometimes I tend to over balance myself and I've got
to watch that when I'm walking around.
John: you have to be careful.
Kiri: yes, we don't want to have to
pick Mark up in lots of little pieces like a certain
John: well yeah, when
you almost fell flying down the stairs you would've
hurt Mark's body pretty badly.
Kiri: yes I know.
John: if you would had fallen.
Kiri: that's why.....
John: I told him about that too.
Kiri: that's why I've stopped coming
down the stairs like I used to.
John: yeah, yeah that's a good idea,
when you're wearing slippery socks.
Kiri: yes, yes. Okay I'll see you
later Johnny, see you probably on Friday night.
John: okay, we'll glue some sandpaper
to Mark's feet.
Kiri: yes, that's a great idea, let's
John: is that a great idea?
Kiri: let's do......
John: yeah we've got lots of sandpaper
on hand and glue, we'll
some sandpaper to Mark's feet.
Kiri: let's do that for real.
Kiri: we'll use that clear sticky
tape, we'll do that
for real okay? Bye.
John: I'll help you.
Russ: he's going to be expecting that
(Tia transitions to Karra next)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, I'll put on......I'll put
on what's her face.
Russ: love of my life.
check it out tomorrow.
Tia: I don't need to.
Russ: we'll see it......show off.
Tia: oh before I go, the president in
the movie is not Bill Clinton.
Russ: somebody worse?
John: he's an ex-fighter pilot.
(Karra next makes her appearance)
Russ: hi Karra.
John: hi Karra.
Karra: greetings, how
is it going gentlemen?
Russ: good of course.
John: good, good.
Karra: okay, let us get down to
business, healers hall.
Russ: healers hall.
Karra: okay, what do you wish to know?
Russ: we used in your bio.......
Russ: where we added the chemical
compounds combined with crystals...
Russ: let's go a little bit on that.
Russ: maybe you could describe it a
little bit for us?
Karra: chemical compounds. Okay, using
such chemicals as iron.
Karra: after all, you all need iron
but it is such a minute amount that it is very hard
to explain. You use very minute
amounts of chemical compounds. For example, calcium
mixed in water, apart from making a very horrible
taste in the mouth, is quite useful. But there are
other ways of getting these chemical compounds such
as calcium through milk.
Karra: that is very useful for bones
and hair. So the chemical compounds that I am using
are actually included in the food so it would be
more accurate to say nutritional chemical compounds.
Russ: ahhh, well that clears that up a
Russ: okay. Now
as I remember, we were working at one time on
somebody who had broken their leg I think or
something and you were talking about their arm. I believe
you were talking about use of
Russ: on Hades Base in conjunction
with the cast and crystals.
Russ: and now we're finding similar
healing techniques being employed down here on
Russ: with the use of magnets.
Karra: very strong, powerful magnets.
Karra: and what is actually happening
is it is stimulating pushing together North and
South together, pull together, generating a field
John: would those very powerful
magnets be electromagnets?
Karra: they can be but electromagnets
have to be shielded from the rest of the body
because they can have detrimental effects but
the generating field of an electromagnet has
to be very high and intense to be that harmful to
Russ: but regular magnets will do the
Karra: but it takes longer yes.
Karra: the magnets we use on the base
are a magnet that are very, very powerful over a
short distance and then dissipate quite quickly.
Russ: hmmm, do we have anything
similar down here?
Karra: electromagnets to a certain
extent but of course these magnets are charged in a
different way in their magna......please, help me.
Russ: magnetic field.
Karra: that is the word I was looking
for, magnetism. The magnetism is much more intense
in the ones that we have up here over a shorter
area. Electromagnets, their energy field dissipates
Russ: uh-huh. Now as I recall when
Linda was here, we were discussing from quite a
while back actually the use of special magnets.
Karra: bio magnets.
Russ: bio magnets. Now how does that
field compare to the ones that you use?
Karra: they are similar but they're
also quite different.
Russ: they're weaker right?
Karra: oh much weaker,
much weaker. And even though they do accelerate the
healing process, it is not as rapid as it would be
up here with our much more intense and stronger
magnetic field. There are magnets up here which are
quite capable of actually leaching out of your body
the iron, they are that
Karra: so it is necessary sometimes to
ingest iron in minute amounts to individuals that
work in this field. They will ingest more iron than
they actually need because they know they're going
to lose some of it.
Russ: I see.
John: are you familiar with the
magnets that you can wear in your shoes?
Karra: those are bio magnets.
John: oh okay, so
we are talking about the same thing.
John: I've got a pair.
John: and do you see some benefit with
Karra: yes and no. Don't expect a lot
because the magnetic field is not as intense as
would be necessary to heal. However, they are very
soothing and relaxing. They make you feel
comfortable. It is something that is useful.
Russ: hmm, do doubling the magnets up
double the field?
Karra: not as much as one would like.
Russ: uh-huh. So tripling then you
would get you more of a benefit then singularly.
Karra: yes but the field is not as
intense as one would like.
Russ: okay so no matter what, you're
going to have to work with it on a slower basis.
Russ: now besides working on healing
broken bones, what other uses would magnetism that
we can find down here like for example with
bio magnets, help in the healing properties of of
Karra: oh there are many, many
different uses that would be used. Cuts, scratches,
headaches believe it or not.
John: how about wear and tear on your
John: I was told that bio magnets are
good because the type of work I do and all the
Karra: well that goes back to wearing
them in your shoes and the soothing affect that it
has. You see when something is not as tired, it will
last longer. When a muscle becomes tired, it is
working harder to pump oxygen and blood to the
extremities and therefore it takes more energy.
Something that makes that easier is very useful.
Karra: and that is what those bio
John: do bio magnets that we get on
this planet, do they wear out after a period of
time? Do they lose their
Karra: eventually yes but it is
something that takes quite a while,
that I wouldn't worry about your lifetime Johnny.
John: oh really? So the pair I bought
a couple years ago in Sedona are still functioning
and working okay?
Karra: they should be.
Karra: if they're not, you got ripped
off, they weren't real magnets.
Russ: now what if you're
able to hook up a battery charge to one? Would that
increase the power without the debilitating effects
of actually having electromagnets?
Karra: no, it wouldn't increase the
electrical magnetic field as much as you are
Karra: yes it does increase it but it
is not a dramatic jump.
Karra: you have to
remember to have positive to North, negative the
South otherwise you are realigning these
poor suckers and if they lose alignment, what
Russ: they reverse it.
Karra: no they lose magnetism.
Karra: if they lose alignment. They
all have to point in the same way for magnetism
Karra: now if one's going this way,
one's going that way and another one's that way and
they're going all higgledy-piggledy, what happens to
Russ: it just becomes a piece of
John: higgledy-piggledy, is that a
Karra: oh yes, very, very technical.
John: oh, okay.
Russ: yeah, originally from Sirius
from way, way back, it survived the eons of time
Karra: oh yes, oh immensely, immensely
old. It is like some of our medical expressions that
we use to shorten words. Like H..F..HFF. Somebody
comes in with a broken leg, let's say it's a guy and
I would say, "HFF, we better work on this one
Karra: what does HFF mean?
His #@^%@* fault.
Russ: well that's putting it......
John: okay yeah,
John: very, very technical.
Karra: uh-huh, oh yes, it's a
fightfully technical term. Or what would be another
one? Let me see. H.....HDB no, HPH. I
remember when I was a medic in the army, Sirian
Defense Force I had a few of these.
Russ: what's it mean?
Karra: hygiene person......hygiene
Karra: it means he doesn't have any.
Russ: so it would be actually PHH,
personal hygiene habits.
Karra: well, English isn't my
Russ: true, true.
Karra: I get the words mixed up.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Russ: and now working with crystals
Karra: uh-huh, okay now crystals are
more of an energy supply for the spiritual being to
recharge the injured individual. It is quite common
for somebody that has been hurt to feel physically
drained of energy and this is because
their body's immune system is fighting the infection
or fighting to repair itself. So what do you do? You
use crystal to re-energize the individual or, if you
happen to be fortunate enough to have healing
crystals, use the energies from those focusing in on
the harmed area and what it
is actually doing is the energy that is already in
that area focusing on healing is being directed by
this crystal, let's say it is a laser crystal right
you're using a sweeping motion right? What you're
doing is focusing the energy in that area in a
sweeping motion and augmenting it with the energy of
the crystal which is helping to heal by sweeping the
energy into a useful, cohesive unit.
Russ: so if we were to use magnets
also that would do the same thing?
Karra: yes but sometimes it is best to
use a combination of healing techniques.
Russ: right, which is why I'm thinking
of using both, the crystals and magnets.
Karra: yes, you would use them either
simultaneously or one after the other.
John: are you familiar with this
Karra: oh this one? I'm afraid I can't
open Mark's eyes to read it and I don't read English
very well. What is it called?
John: it's called the "The
Karra: yes, I believe I am aware of
Russ: being as it's my book.
John: no, this is my book.
Russ: oh I've got one too then.
John: oh, yeah I know.
Russ: oh, so yeah she's quite familiar
John: it's "a practical path to self
development, empowerment and healing for the
beginner and advanced."
John: it's by someone called Uma....
Karra: oh yes.
am vaguely aware of it...........your question
it a good, practical handbook for
us to use here?
yes, it is quite a useful tool.
would there be some other publications that you're
aware of that we have on this planet?
do not have Tia's expertise on computers otherwise
I would look it up and help you. As much as I
would love to, I lack the expertise.
okay, that's good enough.
okay. All right, last questions.
that was my last question.
okay I'll see you guys later, especially you dear.
course my love.
(Tia finishes up the
session with a light moment)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: hey, it's the mistress with the
Tia: oh yes, mistress with
the mostest, with the swivel hips.
John: the ringleader of the gang.
Tia: I'm leader of the pack,
Russ: do you know what that makes her
Russ: part of the ring cycle. (laughs)
Tia: part of the ring cycle?
Russ: you know, the motorcycle, the
Wagner Ring cycle?
Tia: oh, yes.
hums a few bars)
Russ: it is a translation from
Durodedunn back to English.
John: yeah, yeah.
Tia: (sings some more) Yeah......what's
Russ: okay, let's see what we've got
left here to mess around with being as everything's
all covered pretty much for the webpage....
Tia: who's on first?
Russ: I suppose everything else is....
Tia: it's about to run out as well.
Who's on first?
Russ: it's got a ways to go.
Tia: okay, cup of tea would be nice.
Russ: not too far.
John: who's on first?
Tia: yes, who's
John: who is on first.
Tia: that's right.
John: who is the correct answer.
Tia: who's on first, what's on second,
I don't know's on third.
Russ: so who's playing shortstop?
Tia: no, who's on first.
Russ: yes but who has played shortstop.
Tia: no, who is on first.
Tia: that's right.
John: want me to get the tea?
Russ: yeah he trades off
Tia: hey, let's do the
routine all right? Who's on first?
Russ: I don't know.
Tia: no, he's on.....
John: no, no, they're
Tia: thank you. MCP's.
Russ: it's at that point.
Tia: I'm not talking to you now.
Russ: oh good. Okay.
Tia: actually, Kiri was deliberately
egging you on I think.
Russ: think so?
Tia: yeah she was.
Russ: well that's good.
Tia: she wanted to see how far you
would go to putting it in to the......after all she
said that she is the most playful of the bunch.
Russ: yeah well like I say, I'll
probably edit heavily at that point.
Tia: you might put in, Kiri goes off
into frivolous behavior.
Russ: well that's something like that
night in the pyramid.
Tia: or Kiri starts making wild
comments that are unrelated to the channeling
Russ: Kiri sheds clothes,
Tia: it wasn't Lyka I don't think, it
think that it was Katrina.
Russ: well that's true. Hmm, how is
Lyka? I'm a little worried about her.
Tia: what do you mean?
Russ: well I don't see her at all and
she isn't coming to channeling sessions
anymore but it seems like she's gotten kind of
antisocial, not so much a bad way but just kind of
Tia: she's very confused at
Russ: right which is why I'm
asking the question.
Tia: well she wants to do what's right
for her family, she wants to do what's right for her
unit, she wants to do what's right for us and they
Russ: well where does the conflict
come in? Her family doesn't want the same things you
guys want I take it?
Tia: they have different outlooks.
Russ: yeah but they're
Tia: yeah, oh they're Sirian but
they're of a lower class then Kiri and Karra you see?
So that their outlooks are little different.
Russ: oh, well I have to
admit I'm not too used to the lower class outlook
unfortunately. I'm used to Tanaxa (Kiri and Karra's
father), Kiri, Kara and....
Russ: you know we don't meet too
many other Sirians.
Tia: no. But you know she's confused
emotionally, she's also very confused about her
sexuality and also she has incredible
longing that she wants a child but she's also got
the problem with the loyalty to her group of
Russ: well see this is all
very strange because being sixth dimensional, I
wouldn't expect this kind of confusion.
Tia: she's young.
Russ: well agreed but so is Kiri and
yet you don't see that kind of confusion with Kiri.
Kiri knows exactly what she wants, how to get
Tia: yes but when I say Lyka is young,
she is young.
Tia: she's only 19.
Russ: oh, she's still a kid.
Russ: well so theoretically, by the
time she reached Kiri's age she'll have it all
Tia: hopefully yes.
Russ: I mean like I say, it's just in
sixth dimension young or not, I would expect people
to have more abilities and more resources available
Tia: to develop their understanding
certainly, certainly, but she is still a woman, she
still has those hormones, she still has to learn and
experiment with her sensuality.
Tia: she has to learn how to control
John: tea time.
Tia: oh thank you dear.
John: did Kiri tell you about her...
Tia: ow, ow, ow, ow.
John: oh yeah it's......yeah
it's hotter than your lover.
Tia: which one?
John: I don't know, take your pick.
Did Kiri tell you about her adventure with Rocketta?
John: yes, yeah and he gave
her quite a start.
Tia: do you know what I would've done
if I had come across Rocketta?
wild raccoon that comes and visits)
Tia: I would've attacked. Jumped on
her, played with her.
Tia: rolled with her.
Tia: yeah, I wouldn't of killed her,
I would have just played with her.
John: do you realize how big this
Russ: how dangerous that is?
John: yeah, I mean you could. If you
were in Mark's body and you attack this raccoon with
Mark's body, the odds of him being very seriously
injured and having to be hospitalized and go through
a series of rabies shots would be very
Russ: in your body, I think you could
pull it off.
John: but in Mark's body, it wouldn't
be very fair to him.
Tia: well you didn't say in Mark's
Russ: that's true.
John: I know okay, I didn't clarify
that you're right.
Tia: uh-huh. I mean in
Mark's body, if you stood up, I could jump over you
and tap you on the head with my hands as my legs
passed over your shoulders.
Russ: in Mark's body?
Tia: no, my body.
Russ: your body, you
said Mark's body.
Tia: did I?
John: yeah, you did.
Tia: well it's not my language.
Russ: well it's sort of, kind of an
inherited language anyway.
Tia: what you mean?
Russ: well practice makes perfect.
John: yeah, Russ is learning that. Yep,
you think he'll ever master the English language?
John: nah, nah, you'll
probably have it mastered before he does.
Russ: but I keep practicing.
Tia: yes, it's a little bit like
making love, you have to practice.
John: practice, practice, practice.
Russ: well Tia's ready for the sexual
John: oh yeah.
Tia: Kiri is ready for the sexual
Olympics. Actually we're probably both ready for the
Russ: be a tagteam.
Tia: I thought it was mud wrestling,
I thought it was mud wrestling.
Russ: all-female relay team.
John: oh yeah, I can just see them
passing the stick to each other.
Russ: the thing's
Tia: well have you heard of.........