Archivist Notes: A timely channeling session
for challenging time. December's podcast covers two of
the more relevant events of our times playing out in
the news and no matter that the session happened in
1998, concerns about the world's nuclear status are
still tied very closely to the self-control shown by
the leaders of a number of countries including the
United States. When beings of higher dimensions bring
such things to our attention, we are smart to hear out
what they have to say from their perspective of third
party observers with only a small role to play in our
decisions offered here in the form of these
channelings. Whether they make a difference rests with
those who chose to find value in what they say.
The nuclear option is the fist topic up for
discussion and it is Tia who gets us started in a
shortened night where several questions of a personal
nature were omitted from the podcast. The recent
testing of atomic weapons India recently had conducted
was the genesis of the subject had on tap for the
night. She also outlines how China's acquiring a
missile telemetry system was just part of an arms race
at the time going on between that country, India and
Pakistan that had the potential to create a worldwide
disaster. She finishes by pointing out that India's
ability to have nuclear weapons had been prompted by
China's new technology and that Pakistan had to
conduct the tests it had in response to India's
actions. Omal follows Tia's discussion with of his own
on self-control. He covers the pros and cons of
self-control with the main advantage being for the
purpose of advancement. In the question and answer
phase after his short dissertation, the subject of the
UFO cover-up by the Government comes up and he gives
his opinion of their actions they took following the
Roswell crash on whether they took the right approach
or not. The questions turn toward the rush to
spirituality as the millennium was coming to a
close. The end side one comes with
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Tia: hey hello, greetings welcome Skip,
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn.)
Skip: how you doing tonight?
Russ: greetings and felicitations.
Tia: Iím doing good. Okay, down to business, where do I start? Hmm, where do I start?
Skip: at the beginning is usually the best place to start darling.
Tia: yes but Iíve got so many beginnings.
Skip: weíll just grab one and give it heck.
Tia: I got one we can do. Okay, nuclear testing.
Russ: thatís a good one.
Tia: uh-huh, I thought so. Okay, why did India test nuclear weapons? Well, itís a little convoluted.
Russ: well itís not to find out if they can test them or not or whether they can have them.
Tia: itís more along the lines of saying ďwe have nuclear weapons.Ē
Shane: and you donít?
Tia: no, most of the people around them do.
Russ: Pakistan does now.
Tia: uh-huh, now the logic behind their action.........
Russ: what is the logic behind their action?
Tia: well, the logic is that they have the ability to launch nuclear missiles. They also have the capability to launchÖÖ.
Tia: thank you, intercontinental ballistic missiles, ICBM's. The ability that they have to launch nuclear weapons that have the capability to hit Shanghai or Beijing. Now, why would they select those two as how far they could reach.........that they're saying that they can reach either Beijing or Shanghai? Now, moving to one side a little bit to one of their neighbors, China. China recently got a whole load of some technology for telemetry tracking and being able to launch into high orbit supposedly to launch satellites. China has for some time had nuclear capability, where did they get this technology from? Well a trade deal was struck back in Ď86 to help them in satellite placement after two satellites carryingÖÖ..two rockets carrying satellites from the United States blew up. Now this is very unusual that there would be United States satellites on a foreign powerís rockets, especially a hostile foreign power. Even though that thereís been no conflict between China and the United States since Vietnam, they are still perceived as hostile and China does have a track record. They also have a philosophy called the long view that one day they will rule the world and it is something they've been saying for the past six, seven hundred years since they became aware of external countries. So, all of a sudden China has this ability to launch nuclear weapons into high orbit and to select their own reentry points to blast wherever. Now this technology came from United States agencies or from a company that is a military contractor. Now this military contractor donated $300,000 to the 1992 campaign for the president, for the Democratic candidate. Again a Ď96 they donated $400,000 and low and behold, a waiver was signed saying that they could go to China and launch these satellites which promptly blew up and then another waiver was signed for them to aid the Chinese in this capability. In the meantime, Indian Secret Service gets hold of this information and then goes "oh dear" and subsequently goes ahead and gives the information to their government who develops a nuclear capability on their own with existing technology buying here, buying there and so on. So now they are a nuclear threat to China, China is a nuclear threat to them prior to this and it would be difficult for China to hit them accurately without this telemetry tracking and reentry capability that was given to the Chinese by basically Bill Clinton by signing these waivers.
Shane: he signed them?
Tia: he signed them. Thereís got to be a presidential executive order. In doing so, Bill Clinton has initiated an arms race in a very unstable area, very unstable area. Increasing more than at any time in your world's nuclear capability history in the last 50 to 60....well 50 years increasing the danger of a nuclear war not by 10% but by a hundredfold. Now, Pakistan hears about these tests through their sources that werenít very well covered and gets very worried and decides to launch its own tests. In the meantime, India works very hard to develop the ability to launch missiles to hit China and anywhere else within a 3,000 mile radius all because of somebodyís lust for power and money. This nuclear race with these countries that are not exactly stable and have the tendency to react aggressively towards each other is now a serious threat on your planet. The chances of nuclear war are much higher than theyíve ever been. And a refugee from the 60's who protested American involvement in Vietnam, protested nuclear activities, is responsible by his incomprehension as Iíve stated in the past of foreign international politics, total incomprehension. Now, with other instabilities going on and the fact that selling of nuclear technology and rocket technology is very lucrative, with instabilities in such countries as Indonesia which is very unstable........we will cover Indonesia in a moment after Iíve answered some questions. The tenuous problems created by the nuclear arms race in the Third World countries which is what it is, is now dangerous. Pakistan, China, India. Now, if there was a limited nuclear war, there would be a catastrophic worldwide event because of the situation of these three countries. On the monsoon and jet stream pathways that they happen to be on could be very dangerous and detrimental if there was a nuclear war. Iím not saying that there will be and I donít perceive that thereís going to be, not in the near future but, the situation in these countries is heightened because of this gross negligence. Okay, questions.
Tia: Shane, you had one.
Shane: yeah, Bill Clinton signed a waiver?
Shane: was that the test the bombs on Chinese?
Tia: no, a waiver is saying that somethingÖÖ
Shane: what was the waiver for?
Tia: to sell technology or rather to let a U.S. company use Chinese rockets to launch satellites that the Chinese were incapable of launching.
Tia: next question?
Russ: yeah, why is the ability to use computer simulations so important to the Indians and the rest of the world?
Tia: it's important because if you go around using the real McCoy, it's very expensive.
Tia: itís alsoÖÖyou can factor in more possibilities. If you launch a rocket on a bright, sunny day, maybe youíre not going to be launching it on a bright, sunny day. Maybe itís going to be winds from the West for five miles an hour, from the east, from the South, from the North, from the Northeast, maybe itís going to be slightly overcast, maybe itís going to be humid, maybe itís going to be cold, maybe itís going to be hot, maybe itís raining, maybe itís snowing, who knows? But you can factor in all these factors into the simulations.
Russ: it seems as though that would almost be a deterrent in itself, being able to know what these things can do.
Russ: but obviously not.
Tia: no, if you can do it on paper but you donít have it, so what?
Russ: hmm, Skip?
Skip: this sounds like a bunch of little kids telling, ďhey, look at me, I can join the club.Ē
Tia: yeah, pretty much so, pretty much so.
Tia: very stupid and all because of one personís negligence, one personís desire for power.
Russ: okay well why is it Tom Hayden plays such an important role in this or do you think I'd miss that part?
Tia: no, Tom Hayden is a very interesting individual, very interesting. He claims to have allegiance to one group but has allegiance to only one item.
Russ: which is?
Tia: can anybody tell me?
Russ: wait a minute, he has allegiance to the same '60's politics that he had back in the '60's.
Tia: claims to.
Tia: but he doesnít.
Russ: what is he, a special interest kind of thing now?
Tia: no, he has an interest in one thing and one thing only......
Tia: money as most
of the people from the '60's that are now in power. They
have no interest in human rights, they have no interest in
peace, all's they want is money, to look good, to leave a
legacy and the only legacy that theyíre leaving is a
nuclear arms race in an area where itís very unstable.
Russ: okay what is his role in this?
Tia: his role?
Russ: did he protest? He couldnít of because it just went through.
Tia: no not really, not really.
Russ: he agreed then?
Skip: he just ignored it.
Tia: he did nothing.
Skip: he just ignored it.
Tia: which is the worst crime of all.
Skip: in other words, if you ignore something long enough itíll go away.
Kiri: or bite you.
Tia: and in this case it might just bite.
Skip: what is wrong with these people?
Tia: uh-huh but itís nothing to be overly worried about. Now, the other side of the coin is shock, horror, funding. Funding of governmental agencies and a particular governmental agency that supposed to be in the know, the CIA. The CIA has had its funding cut over the past few years. In fact itís had its budget repeatedly cut since Ď93. Shock horror, they did not know about the test until they happened, they did not know that it was coming. They were caught by surprise, they were caught with their underwear down. Okay, questions.
Russ: okay first off, ohÖÖ.
Skip: go ahead, go ahead, you're doing all right.
Russ: the jet stream you mentionedÖ..
Russ: and its ability to come through and affect the world.
Russ: why is that going to affect us, how is the jet stream from that part of the globe affect us? I thought that was down south or am I mistaken?
Tia: youíre very mistaken.
Tia: the jet stream does this routine, itís like a wave. Let us say thereís a storm that brews off of the coast of Japan.......
Tia: right? It goes up into the Arctic and down into the United States. Let us say Beijing gets hit by a nuclear bomb, it gets nuked.....
Tia: right? Letís say by a small 50 megaton nuclear missile.
Tia: okay, the way that the jet stream goes, if Chinaís here and the U.S. is here, with the jet stream and blows this way it goes up into the Arctic, it picks up moisture and goodness knows what else, comes down over Alaska harming all those native Alaskans all the way down into Washington, Oregon, California and spreads out that way.
(Tia says something in Durodedunn.)
Tia: okay? So it does affect you.
Skip: so we'd get the radiation fallout.
Tia: uh-huh, depends on how big it is and I think that if you were to drop a 50 megaton U.S. ICBM on Beijing, it would not do as much damage as the one if the Indians dropped one, why?
Skip: because weíve cleaned ours up.
Tia: exactly, thereís are dirty nuclear missiles.
Russ: what happened to Korea and its ability to create havoc, we havenít heard about them in months?
Tia: guess were the plutonium came from.
Russ: well that does make
Russ: now thatís painting a bit more clearer picture of whatís going on with that then.
Tia: itís funny that nobodyís heard about it recently, everybodyís forgotten about it.
Russ: well that was my other question, how come nobodyís heard about it lately?
Tia: it goes back to a little bit of trade wheeling and dealing that I just covered. If you remember, I said that there were things that weren't clear.
Tia: now India has nuclear reactors obviously.
Russ: and so does Pakistan.
Tia: uh-huh, now the nuclear reactors are monitored as a matter of course, everybodyís nuclear reactors are monitored so that they canít takeÖ..especially Third World countriesÖÖ.they canít take the plutonium and uranium from there and make nuclear weapons. So thereís only two sources that can give nuclear material, the former Soviet Union and the United States unless of course it comes through some other devious route.
Tia: and as the former Soviet Union has fallen to pieces, well thereís one place. Where do you think Pakistan gets theirs from?
Russ: Soviet Union.
Tia: where do you think India get some of theirs from?
Shane: Soviet Union.
Russ: but Indiaís been working with nuclear power for a couple decades havenít they?
Russ: so they couldíve just used what they had working off just what their reactors were turning out.
Russ: they didnít need any outside help.
Tia: but why draw attention to it?
Russ: but everyone known Indiaís had nuclear weapons for years. Israel has nuclear weapons, the Arabs have nuclear weaponsÖ.
Russ: Indiaís had them, nobodyís just admitted to it is all. Now finally Indiaís admitting to it.
Russ: itís just a political move.
Tia: uh-huh, for what purpose?
Russ: well for one thing, to get more money.
Tia: no, to get China off their back that now has capability to hit them hard.
Russ: hmm, like they did Tibet?
Tia: uh-huh, you see? It gets very, very murky, very difficult. Okay, letís move right alongÖ..no letís save that for next week. Okay letís pick another strand, my pet topic. Anybody know what my pet topic is?
Tia: no, other pet topic.
Tia: and Iíve been told to drop that one, okay. Any more questions?
Tia: no? OkayÖÖÖ.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn.)