(Tia comes on to start the session)
Russ: I left the door open up there
for Tonka to get in.
of the house cats)
Russ: yeah, come wandering in if he
Tia: (speaks some
we have an aura on the foot here.
Russ: that would be Calvin eh?
one of the house cats)
Tia: uh-huh, a bent aura, or at least
the butt's bent.
Russ: so we've got a pyramid to
Russ: we've got the big guys in.
Tia: big guys?
Russ: Korton and Omal?
Tia: just Omal.
Russ: oh just Omal?
Tia: as far as I know but what do I
Russ: yeah well you're the ring
mistress, I assume you know everything.
Tia: yes I do know everything.
Russ: what are you doing being the
Tia: if I didn't know everything.
Tia: ask me a question, any question.
Russ: square root of pi?
Tia: not telling you, nahh.
Tia: ask me a question Johnny.
John: define ring mistress and what
exactly is your......?
Tia: I coordinate everything, who goes
on, who's on first, what's on second, I don't know
is on third.
John: okay so you're the coordinator
Tia: that's correct, I control who
goes on. I'm also semi-in charge of censoring
although the heavies, they do most of the censoring.
I'm in charge of who should be at channeling
sessions, both up there, over there and down there.
Russ: and how long they take each.
Tia: that's correct. I also keep a
very close eye on the amount of time that is used on
Russ: how much of Mark's energy is
Tia: correct, so I coordinate
everything, it's a big and important job. And
considering I'm, how tall am I?
John: well my cheat sheet here says five
foot two, strawberry blonde hair.
Tia: that's me.
John: yeah Russ was nice enough to put
together a sheet for me.......
John: because I've been
having some trouble keeping everyone separated and
yeah, he did a real nice job.
Tia: uh-huh and Kiri, who is Kiri's
John: well I would venture to say
Tia: it's Carrie, Carrie the sex toy.
private joke between Kiri and Carrie)
John: oh okay, okay yeah. All right,
Carrie with a C.
John: right okay.
Russ: and since you get to hear from
Tia: yes I know, that's why thought I
would bring up her name. Okay, should we put her on?
Russ: I'll make the phone call.
Tia: but in the meantime whilst you
make the phone call, Johnny, you got any questions
John: oh let me see. I didn't put
together any notes or anything.
Tia: off the top of your head. Oh I do
have a herbal remedy for your problem.
John: oh you do?
Tia: yes. You will need fresh garlic
crushed, fresh thyme freshly picked............
(the following has been cut out due to a mic problem
at the time)
both lemon thyme and regular thyme. You will
need chives, preferably fresh if not, dried will do.
You'll also need sage, about three leaves. All
ground together and then steeped in hot water. Drink
all of it.........and pepper, ground pepper.
John: any particular kind of pepper?
Tia: course ground, black pepper.
John: black pepper okay. I think we've
got everything we need here.
Tia: uh-huh. Steeped in hot water, no
other flavorings, no tea, no milk just that and
Carrie will tell you all that.
John: no lemon or nothing like that?
John: does Mark know the recipe?
Tia: no I don't think so but it's on
the recording, we can go back to the beginning and
go over it. So that is.....okay go on, press the
(Russ dials up Carrie)
Tia: hello sister mind.
Carrie: hi, what's going on?
Tia: oh channeling time and I'm
messing with the cat, Calvin.
Carrie: you're messing with Calvin?
Carrie: shame on you.
Tia: well somebody's got to, nobody
Carrie: that's true. Have you ever
come down and messed with my kitty?
Tia: from time to time.
Carrie: she is a trip.
Tia: yeah you know when she does that
vertical takeoff thingy? Like somebody's walked up
behind her and gone pinch on her butt. Guess what?
Carrie: she is a weirdo.
Carrie: she does all kinds of stuff
Tia: yeah you know when she does have
vertical takeoff thing? That's when I pinch her on
Carrie: that's when you pinch her on
Carrie: I'll have to watch for that
Carrie: she does so many weird things
that I don't know.
Tia: well tell me about them.
Carrie: well she's a trip. She is
just......I tell you, sometimes I think she is
heaven-sent because I just adore her with all my
heart. You know the other night we were watching a
movie and she sat like a baby in my arms for two
Tia: was that the movie with the guy
with the long hair and the big muscles?
Carrie: I'm trying to think which
movie we were watching. Which movie did we watch? We
watched "Voodoo" and "Judge Dredd".
Tia: oh "Judge Dredd", that's one of
Mark's favorite movies.
Carrie: oh really? And what was the
other one that we watched? We watched, oh "Johnny
Tia: oh the guy with the microchip in
Carrie: God, that's a trip. That is so
weird, that's almost scary and then "Judge Dredd"
Carrie: all those futuristic movies,
it's like wow, is it going to be like that you know?
It makes me wonder.
Tia: it does make you wonder doesn't
Carrie: oh yeah.
Tia: do you know Mark grew up on
Tia: Mark grew up on "Judge Dredd".
Carrie: see I didn't know it was a
comic. Mike had told me, he said, what did he say?
He said something. He said something, he goes, "God
this has been around forever Carrie". And I said,
"nuh-uh". And he said, "yeah it has". He said,
"Judge Dredd is a comic book" and I was like, "oh
wow. I didn't know that."
Tia: uh-huh. Yeah ask Mark when you
talk to him next. He'll tell you all about "Judge
Carrie: I can imagine he was into
Tia: what do you mean you can imagine
he was into comics, he still is.
Carrie: is he still?
Carrie: I can imagine that he would
Russ: his life is a comic book.
Tia: watch it sonny.
Carrie: I think wait a minute, I think
I remember him....doesn't he have a whole bunch of
them like in plastic coverings and stuff?
Tia: no that's the Russ Meister.
Carrie: is that Russ?
Carrie: okay. Okay, yep I remember
Russ being into them too.
Tia: uh-huh. So what can we do for you
then sister mind?
Carrie: well I don't know, I just
thought I'd give you guys a holler and say hello and
tell you how my couple weeks have been.
Tia: okay tell me, tell me, tell me.
Carrie: well we got our wedding
Carrie: but we
don't get em till Friday because we had to get them
sized and they are so beautiful. And I got a
Carrie: I'm really excited. I've never
had a diamond you know?
Tia: you've never had a diamond?
Tia: you've never had a diamond?
Carrie: well Mike gave me a diamond
earring, just one diamond earring like a long, long
time ago but I've never had a...you know?
Carrie: I've just never and then I got
my mom's diamond. And then, I guess I've never had
anybody other than Mike give me a diamond because
I've got my mom's diamond but that was her diamond
you know? It's just kind of on loan on my finger.
Carrie: and then Mike got me a diamond
for my birthday but this one's like I think it's a
quarter carat. And then it's got three chipped
diamonds in the wedding band and two chipped
diamonds in the engagement band on the side of the
quarter carat diamond.
Carrie: it's really pretty.
Tia: well Mike's the special person
that can give you the diamonds.
Carrie: it's so neat though because he
just thinks it's so important you know? And I love
that. He got diamonds too.
Tia: oh that's good.
Carrie: his ring has chipped
diamonds in it too.
Tia: I'll tell you what you could do as
a little bit of a joke, get him a lump of coal, wrap
it up and tell him that that's a diamond in the
Carrie: well he was going to get me
Tia: yeah. Well tell him to wait about
2 million years and it should be ready.
Carrie: yep, yep. Diamonds are
beautiful and it's kind of neat how they are made
out of coal though. Me and my mom were talking about
that the other day. They're like, they're an all
Tia: yeah or the other thing is to get
him a piece of wood and tell him to heat it to
several hundred thousand degrees and compress it and
it will turn to coal and then from coal it will turn
to a diamond.
Carrie: it'll turn to diamond?
Carrie: I don't think he'd like that
too much. We bought him a new truck too.
Carrie: bought him a new Blazer.
Tia: ooohh you are on the up and up.
Carrie: yep, we've bought it
yesterday. He's so excited because he hasn't had a
vehicle since we left.
Tia: oh really?
Carrie: uh-uh, we've just been driving
my car. So I put my car up for collateral and bought
him a new truck. So he's really excited, I'm really
excited for him, I'm happy.
Tia: I bet you are.
Carrie: that's kind of his
Christmas present. A new vehicle and I think it's
kind of neat being able to give him a vehicle for
Tia: not many people can get that for
Carrie: oh no they can't and we always
say to each other too and we tell everybody this,
"we're not going to get each other anything for
Christmas" and look at us, we always do that every
Carrie: we always say, "okay,
something small", and then it turns out being
something big. Like the first year we were together
I got a leather jacket and bought him a Sega CD and
he gave me leather gloves and a beautiful silver
fairy earring and........
Tia: uh-huh, well I......
Carrie: we always do that, I don't
Tia: well I keep on getting prodded
and there's somebody that wants to talk to you.
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: well I'd love to talk to them.
Tia: okay, I'm going to put her on.
(Kiri takes over the call from Tia)
Carrie: hi Kiri.
Kiri: how's it happening babe?
Carrie: pretty good, how are you?
Kiri: oh, you know.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: I know how you are.
Carrie: what's going on?
Kiri: well lots and lots and lots.
I've been practicing and competing for the ski races
that we're having on Centauri base.
(for the Tri-Base ski
championship between Sirus, Alpha Centari base and
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: how you doing?
Kiri: I qualified.
Carrie: oh cool.
Carrie: is it snow skiing?
Carrie: oh neat.
Kiri: I've got to win one more race
and then I'm ready for the team.
Carrie: you'll have to teach me how to
snow ski some day.
Kiri: hey when we get you up here I'll
teach you how to snow ski.
Carrie: I've never snow skied.
Kiri: you're kidding?
Carrie: is that bad or what?
Kiri: no not really.
Carrie: nope, never snow skied a day
in my life.
Kiri: what about on one of those long,
fat, thing foot things?
Carrie: nope, never did that either.
Kiri: well, when we get you up here on
the base, I'll teach you how to ski.
Kiri: yeah there's lots of
things I'll teach you about.
Carrie: oh okay. (laughs) We'll
do that when I get up there.
Carrie: nope, I never did ski, never
had the urge. I guess all my friends did all my
skiing for me.
Kiri: well that's good, that's good.
Have you been trying my exercises I told you about
last time that we had a long talk?
Carrie: no, I haven't really had to.
Kiri: oh that's good.
Carrie: no, things are going real
Kiri: uh-huh. I thought that might be
the catalyst for other things to happen. Oh
did you enjoy that dream the other night, I think it
was about a week ago?
Carrie: huh-huh, which one, which one
are you talking about?
Kiri: it was about a week ago,
involved fields and sun and having a lot of fun.
I've got to be careful with what I say here, I've
got two MCPs.
Carrie: oh, I don't remember that
Kiri: oh well, not to worry.
Carrie: there was another one though
that I remember quite well that was kind of a trip.
It was about a friend of mine that I knew years and
years ago and I haven't thought about him in a
really long time.....
Carrie: a really long time.
Kiri: was she the medium height blonde
with the athletic build?
Carrie: no, not that one. Nope he's
tall, skinny, long.....Russ are you in the room?
Russ: I'm here darling.
Carrie: you know Roby?
Russ: no I never met him.
Carrie: do you remember me talking
Russ: no, not any Roby
Carrie: that was years ago though,
was so many years ago...I mean that was...
Russ: well I might've forgotten too
Kiri: you're watching a cop show?
Carrie: Mike's asleep in front of the
Kiri: watching a cop show.
Kiri: uh-huh he's dreaming that he is
a member of the State police right?
Carrie: no, that'd be a pretty boring
Kiri: pays well though.
Kiri: it pays well though.
Carrie: pays well?
Carrie: probably not, well I don't
know, I guess well enough for around here.
Carrie: but no, I only
remember...........we went and met with the minister
the other day too and I was going to talk to you
guys about this. I was going ask you, because I
asked him if it would be a problem for him to read
what you guys would write.
Carrie: and he said no as long as he
had a chance to review it ahead of time so that he
could object or not.
Kiri: oh of course.
Carrie: but then I was talking to
Carol and Carol told me, she said,
"why don't you just have the minister do his part
and you know marry you guys and then have Russ stand
up and do a ceremony?"
Russ: that's if I'm there or not.
Carrie: Russ are you there?
Kiri: he's here.
Russ: I'm here but whether I'll be
there and we don't know yet.
Kiri: you have to come closer to the
Russ: did you hear that
Carrie: yeah I heard that.
Russ: I thought so.
Carrie: that's true, that's true.
Russ: I wouldn't make any plans on it
Russ: I wouldn't plan on it just yet.
Carrie: you better plan on it just
Russ: well, we'll work on it.
Kiri: yeah we will come up with a
little ceremony that he can use. We will give quite
a few things that he can chop and change and.....but
it will keep the flavor in there. What we will do
is...nah, I can't tell you what we'll do and how it
will get to you but it will get to you.
Carrie: okay. Because he told me just
as long as.....because he said like within the next
Kiri: okay, we'll have it done before
Carrie: okay because he said just as
long as it's nothing........and I told
him, I said well the ceremony that we went through,
I said it wasn't....I said you know.....because he
goes, "well just as long as it's nothing like I get
to a part and it shocks me" you know?
Carrie: and I said, "well no, it
wouldn't be anything like that." And I said all it's
be is a spiritual bonding. I said it's just going to
be the same, the same as a Christian bonding but not
the same you know?
Carrie: and we had a religious debate
for two hours, it was kind of interesting. And then
he said the only reason he wouldn't marry us is if
one of us was Christian and the other one wasn't.
Carrie: because apparently in the
Bible it says that if your one is one
religion and the other one isn't, then your wedding
or your marriage will be like doomed because you
have a different perspective on life and I don't
necessarily believe that.
Kiri: oh I quite agree, to me it
sounds as Mark might say, "a load of tosh."
Russ: where did you find this guy
Russ: where did you find this guy?
Carrie: you'd be surprised, he's like
the most casual Christian around here.
Carrie: a lot of people wouldn't even
marry us because we've lived together for 2 1/2
Carrie: I mean these people out here
are seriously religious. He's a really nice guy you
know and Mike and I decided that we're both
Christians. I mean because the only Christian
values, I mean the only thing that classifies me as
a Christian, I was talking to my mom about this the
other day, okay and my mom told me and the minister
told us this too, a
Christian is basically somebody who believes in God
and believes that Jesus died for our sins.
Kiri: uh-huh. But of course we know
who Jesus really is don't we?
Carrie: oh yeah but I can't tell the
Carrie: that's a good way to get me
exiled from the Midwest.
Kiri: yes of course, I understand.
Carrie: so basically that's what a
Christian is, somebody who
believes in God and who believe that Jesus was sent
down and died for our sins and I believe
that and Mike believes that so I guess that
classifies us as both Christians.
Kiri: okay I'm going to put on the
next person that wants to talk to you so hold on a
Kiri: there you are, there's a kiss
Carrie: I love you.
Kiri: love you too.
Carrie: I'll talk to you later.
Kiri: yeah bye.
Kiri: I'll be by later on with Tia.
Carrie: okay, bye.
Kiri: okay? So watch yourself.
Carrie: watch myself?
Kiri: yes watch yourself.
(Karra reunites with Carrie next)
Carrie: hi Russ.
Russ: hi Carrie.
How you doing darling?
Carrie: what's wrong? You sound
Russ: oh no, I'm just standing up
Karra: and how's it going?
Carrie: how are you?
Karra: oh I'm doing fine but you on
the other hand, hmmm.
Carrie: mine is just a temporary
Karra: oh so we're up to six a day now
Carrie: probably more than that.
Carrie: I know bad.......
Carrie: bad, bad....
Karra: bad, bad, hold out your hand.
Russ: spank yourself.
Carrie: spank myself? I'll have Mike
Karra: hold out your arm, roll up your
sleeve, okay now get two of your fingers and slap
Carrie: okay, okay I did it.
Karra: okay, naughty, naughty,
Carrie: I did it.
Carrie: I know I've got to quit, my
Karra: yeah, consider yourself
reprimanded by Karra.
Carrie: I know.
Karra: I know.
Carrie: sigh Karra.
Karra: that's all right.
Carrie: I know I need to quit.
Karra: I forgive you.
Carrie: especially if I'm going to
have a baby.
Karra: uh-huh, it's very important
that you quit for the baby.
Carrie: Karra, do you know when I'm
going to have a baby?
Karra: no, I don't know when you're
going to have a baby, I can't see into
the future. Yes Russ?
Carrie: I know what my future has
ahead of me.
Karra: you do?
Carrie: you've been through it.
speechless causing Russ
Karra: we'll save this for a later
discussion when......when I....
Carrie: I know, I know. I can ask you
those questions I know. We're frustrated though,
we've been trying for a year.
Karra: a year? That's nothing.
Carrie: I was holding Sherry's baby
the other night.
they got married.
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: yeah, they just got married at
the courthouse and it was nothing real fancy but it
was real special and we went over to some friends
last night and I was holding Schaefer and he fell
asleep in my arms and he was just looking up at me
before he fell asleep and he was just watching me.
And then I was humming Christmas songs to him and
then he started to get a little fussy and then I
hummed some more and he'd just get real quiet and
he'd stare at me. It felt so right.
Karra: he was probably looking up at
you and going, "who is this person?"
Carrie: he knows who auntie Carrie is.
Karra: yeah I know, I'm pulling your
Carrie: I'm always giving him kisses
all the time.
Karra: I'm pulling your leg.
Carrie: he knows me because I used to
call him a little girl when he was inside the tummy.
Carrie: he didn't like that.
Karra: now would you like being called
a little boy?
Karra: would you like to be called a
Carrie: he wanted to be called a
little boy because he was a little boy.
Karra: no but would you?
Carrie: would I? No.
Karra: well there's your answer.
Carrie: I understand. He'll forgive me
Karra: yes of course he will.
Carrie: but it just felt so right you
know? It was so neat, it was like......but
then I think about it and I think God knows what
he's doing, he knows.
Carrie: I guess he just knows that
we're not in a position right now to have babies.
Karra: oh exactly, your body is
telling you that it's not the right time yet.
Carrie: yeah that and the situation
Carrie: you know? It would just be too
hard, too much more stress so I figure God must know
you know? I put my trust in him and I
believe that he knows what he's doing.
Karra: yeah, you see the body's a very
sensitive piece of equipment, it knows when it's
time to have children and when it's not time to have
children. Certain activities will stop
you from having children. For example, you can be
very athletic and that will stop your periods and
stop you from ovulating because you're being
busy and you're burning energy that would at other
times be used to help you to grow a baby. Or when
you're very, very hungry and there's no money around
and you're starving. Again you can't have babies
because your body doesn't have the
nutrients to supply the energy for a baby.
Carrie: I didn't know that.
Karra: uh-huh. See the body's very
Carrie: it amazes me how the body
works sometimes when I sit down and think about it.
Are your guy's body's the same?
Karra: yeah, uh-huh.
Carrie: isn't that weird? How
everything connects because especially in school
we've been learning like we went through cell
anatomy and physiology.
Carrie: And it was so weird you know?
Because I mean everything connects to everything and
everything serves a purpose and every little thing
knows when there's something wrong.
Karra: oh of course, it's a very
precisely tuned piece of machinery as Kiri might
Carrie: well mine needs a tuneup.
Carrie: mine needs a few major
Karra: Kiri says that one day she'll
get to give you a few minor adjustments that will
Carrie: I should of never have told
Russ that, now Kiri's going be
bugging me about it the whole lifetime.
Karra: well one day when you are
abducted by a UFO for a brief period of time,
probably it will be Kiri and a pilot and they'll get
into a lot of trouble but you'll feel much, much
Carrie: oh just as long as....I
watched that movie "Fire in the Sky".....just
as long as they don't do...you guys
don't do....it's not one of them UFOs.
Karra: no, no.
Carrie: I'm sure you guys wouldn't do
that to me.
Karra: now would we?
Carrie: but one of those UFOs, that
Russ: no, "Fire In
the Sky" was a fictional, it
Carrie: no, it was a true story though,
actually happened in 1976.
Russ: I know but the actual things
that they said the movie, didn't actually happen.
That was put in by Hollywood. The guy who actually
got abducted had none of that stuff happen to him.
He said nothing like what they were talking about.
Hollywood added that in to make it a little more....
also to give people like us a bad name.
Carrie: oh I wouldn't give you guys a
Karra: I know.
Carrie: but there is not people like
Karra: oh there's all sorts of
different races out here that.....
Carrie: I know and it scares me
Karra: oh don't be scared, you're all
Carrie: I know I am, but it just, I
don't know. It's weird because I know when I was
younger I've seen a couple UFOs when I was younger.
Carrie: and I feel safe with you guys
you know because you guys are always there to
Karra: yes we are the arms that
surround you and hold you and stop you from sliding
off the road when you're going a little bit too fast
in icy conditions. Or when you go around a curve to
a bridge and the bridge is in the shade and it's all
icy? We're the ones that make you slow down a bit.
Carrie: oh is that you guys?
Russ: hey Carrie?
Carrie: I tell you, if I had a "Vet"
to try, I'd probably be dead by now.
Karra: that's why you don't have....
Carrie: I've been scared half to
death. I had to pull over the other day. Maybe that
was you guys that made me do it?
Karra: was that just after a bridge
that you went over that was a little bit icy?
Carrie: well it was a bridge, I went
over a bridge okay?
Carrie: but my windshield wiper fluid
had gone out. And I didn't have any windshield wiper
fluid and it's so muddy out here that I mean my
windows were caked with mud. I couldn't see anything
because I was behind a semi and I almost ran into
him. So I pulled over and I had to take snow from
the side of the road to wipe off my windows just to
make it home and I was 20 miles from home and it was
freaky. And I got home and I told Mike I said, "I
have got to get windshield wiper fluid because I'm
going to die out there if I don't." And it was bad but
we only have a couple days out here like that. Like
last week it was 51 below zero.
Karra: oohh, nice cool
Carrie: yeah very cool, I mean it was
cold but see we were on our
way to Cedar Rapids and seven people got......eight
people got killed in a motor-home.
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: we were three cars behind it.
They got smashed by a semi. And we were sitting
there for an hour in traffic, we didn't know what
was going on. We were sitting there for an hour in
traffic and we're like, you know whining and
complaining, "come on we got to go, we got to go"
and then all of a sudden somebody come back and told
us what happened and we just sobbed and started
praying and thanking God for letting us get to our
destination safe. It was so cold out that in the
time we were sitting there for that hour......
Carrie: our tires froze to the ground.
Carrie: that's how windy and cold it
was. The wind apparently picked up this
semi and threw it over on top of the motorhome. And
then they were doing a detour?
Carrie: like right before this or
right after this and we missed the detour,
were two cars behind the detour. That's how we ended
up three cars behind the accident.
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: we were two cars behind when
they stopped the detour and some guy got killed on
Karra: ohh it sounds like a nasty
Carrie: yeah well it was the daytime
and it was really bad. Some guy I guess, he had a
load full of cattle........
Carrie: and the wind just picked him
up and rolled his truck and the cattle survived
because it was too heavy.
Carrie: it didn't pick that up but it
picked up his cab and it killed him. And it was like
I mean it was weird because it was like thank you
because we could of been in either one of those
Karra: uh-huh but you weren't. That's
the main thing that you were where you should have
Carrie: exactly, exactly and
that's why we just stopped complaining and
we said there was some people there
that didn't make it home and thank God we made it.
Kara: that's right anyway, I'm going
to hand you back to Russ.
Karra: because Russ is thinking about
his telephone bill again.
Russ: no I'm not.
Carrie: I know, I shouldn't have
Karra: that's..of course you can call
whenever you wish.
Carrie: well I called but
he called me back so it's on his bill.
Karra: okay well Tia will finish up
everything but in the meantime you can talk to Russ
whilst we stretch out and relax.
Carrie: huh? I couldn't hear you, I
was walking away.
Russ: she is going to stretch out and
Carrie: oh, okay.
Russ: no biggie. Hey darling?
Russ: question for you.
Russ: have you ever experienced
anything like missing time or something?
Carrie: missing time?
Russ: like some part of your life that
went by and you can't remember what it was that went
by but you were awake and then you're somewhere else
or something like that and you don't know what
Carrie: okay yeah.
Russ: what happened, when was this?
Carrie: are you talking about in my
Russ: yeah right.
Russ: no, anytime in your life.
Carrie: why, are you doing a report?
Russ: just curious, personal
Carrie: there's been quite a few times
in my life where I've have had missing time.
Russ: what happened darling? Give me
one good one.
Carrie: when Rob died.
Russ: what happened?
Carrie: I remember my mom calling me
at the movie theater and telling me that Rob was
dead and I freaked out and I went to Christine's
house and nobody was there and I don't know after
that. I remember being in the schoolyard, I don't
know how I got there but I remember being
in the schoolyard. And then after that my parents
had a search party looking for me, nobody knew where
I was at for like, I was gone.........I can only
trace about an hour of that time and I was gone
probably eight or nine hours.
Carrie: and I don't remember, I don't
know if I just blocked it out or.....but I remember
being in the schoolyard and I don't know how I got
there and I don't remember. And then I remember
going home and getting really drunk and throwing up
all over the floor.
(Kiri comes back to the chat)
Kiri: well we all
do silly things like that from time to time. When I
get drunk, which ain't very often, watch it buddy
Kiri: he's snickering at me.
Carrie: oh he knows something that I
Russ: oh yeah.
Kiri: you got the wrong person buster,
I don't have pointed ears and a stumpy tail.
Carrie: I don't get that drunk
Kiri: that's good.
Carrie: I used to get that drunk a
see that's why, that's why when I was younger
there's a lot of missing time in my life Russ, there
is a lot of my childhood that's missing that I don't
Russ: any time during when you saw
those UFOs, did any of that come up missing?
Carrie: well there was this one time I
was walking home from Jessica's house and remember I
used to walk a lot?
Russ: yeah, sure.
Carrie: there was this one time I was
walking home from Jessica's house and I remember
getting up on this one street and I used to walk
with my head straight up in the air........
Carrie: because I used to stare at the
sky and it was late at night and I saw this thing
and it kind of looked like a star.
Carrie: and it was like moving with me
but you know how sometimes your eyes can make it
Russ: yeah right.
Carrie: well it was moving with me so
to see if I was actually right or not, I actually
crossed the road like in a zigzag and it followed
me. It was like it was attached to me.
Carrie: and then all of a sudden I
just started running, running and I ran all the way
home. And I got home and after that I don't
remember. And then there was another time where my
mom and I saw UFO's actually shining their lights in
our backyard. It was so weird. I have seen them
coming through my window and my mom
had a room above mine, so her window faced the same
Carrie: and me my mom were the only
ones home and I ran upstairs because I saw all these
lights and I ran upstairs I woke my mom up. I said,
"wake up" and she's going, "what's going on?" I
said, "mom wake up, look out the window." She looked
out the window and we both just stood there. There
were three light formations or three UFOs up in the
sky in a "V" formation and they were shining their
lights in our back field. I mean there were lights,
they were like a bluish white light in our backyard
and it was so trippy. And then all of a sudden one
shined in our bedroom and we both jumped down and
laid in bed and we held each other and we fell
Kiri: sorry to interrupt, but have you
had any dreams of different races and species of
Carrie: I'm trying to think. I don't
Kiri: and Karra is saying to me that
she would like to give you a total physical exam at
Carrie: why, do you guys think I've
Russ: sounds very possible.
Kiri: no we didn't say that, we didn't
Russ: oh well they didn't say it.
Carrie: okay Russ, you can say it.
Russ: no I can't say it. You probably
haven't but what the heck, you never know.
Carrie: oh yeah, that's true. Well
I'll give my consent for a physical, I...
Russ: have you watched the X-Files
Carrie: I mean because I have thought
about it. I remember, you know the very first time I
ever saw a UFO was when I was about seven years old.
Carrie: it was me, my brother, my
cousin and our babysitter and we all
sat there and watched it. I was about seven years
Kiri: it ties into Mark's conversation
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay I'm going to put
(Tia returns to finish up the call)
Carrie: I've seen
a lot in my life, a lot of UFOs.
Russ: sounds like it darling.
Russ: I haven't seen but one.
Carrie: you've seen one?
Russ: just one and that was only
because it flew over when Omal was there and he
pointed out to me.
(during a camping
trip when Mark channeled Omal by the campfire)
Carrie: yeah I've seen quite a few and
that I thought was pretty weird. I don't really tell
a lot of people about it just because of the fact
that people think I'm Fruit Loops when I tell them
I've seen more than one.
Russ: oh I think you pretty safe
talking about it here.
Carrie: well yeah, I know that. (laughs)
I guess I just never really thought about it
bringing it up with you guys. I haven't thought
about that in a really long time and....
Russ: well it's good to know, I
Carrie: but, you guys remember.....oh
remember we talked about this before. Remember that
one, I don't know if it was ever verified but
remember that guy that used to come and rape me in
Russ: oh yeah right.
Tia: yeah I remember that.
Carrie: remember him? And we had
talked about it?
Russ: yeah right.
Russ: well I remember the name you
used. It was....started
with the P or something didn't it?
Carrie: are you thinking of Dagmar?
Russ: oh yeah right, D.
Carrie: no, no, that was a demon.
Carrie: isn't that exciting? Boy I've
just had such an exciting life.
Russ: more than me.
Carrie: no that was a demon that Rob
Rob had done some channeling when he was pretty
young, okay he had done a lot of channeling.
Carrie: and he was kind of like a
medium. I guess he did what Mark does.
Tia: uh-huh yeah.
Carrie: and apparently he had let this
thing or demon, I thought it was a demon at the
time, maybe it wasn't? And being that Rob and I were
connected, the demon wanted both of us, whatever it
was. His name was Dagmar. Well when Rob was doing
this one channeling session, he apparently let
Dagmar out and Dagmar almost killed one of the girls
that was there and Rob stopped it. Well Rob kind of
put a mission out on life, on his life.
is why I think he died. And I've only told one other
person this, this is why think he died, I think he
was killed because he was trying to save my life.
Tia: it sounds more like he sacrificed
himself to save you.
Carrie: exactly and I couldn't tell
anybody that but the demon had started
messing with me.......
Carrie: he would find himself, and his
roommate even vouched for this, he would find
himself in an unconscious state fighting, physically
Carrie: like he had no control over
what was going on. He was in the actual......he was
fighting Dagmar because Dagmar....and now I'm
starting to wow.....I'm like trying to put this all
together. I've never really pieced this to the
puzzle. But remember when Rob and I used to have
that little room that we'd go to?
Carrie: we had a waterfall and then we
had a room.
Carrie: I used to....my mom was so
scared. She didn't believe me at first until she saw
him on my wall, his figure was on my wall. At night
I was so scared to go to sleep because I could see
him moving in the shadows and I would hide. Every
night I was so scared. And my mom had a priest bless
a crucifix and two holy Bibles and sort of laid
them on my bed like in a ritualistic kind of way?
And she had apparently had a minister come in
and.....well it didn't work because it wasn't a
demon. I thought he had gone away but he had only
gotten into my dreams apparently that was him.
That's really weird.
Carrie: see I never really put the two
together because after Rob died he became more
powerful but Rob I don't think knew
Russ: well Rob might've been what was
keeping him weak eh? It wasn't letting him...
Carrie: not because we were too weak,
we were linked. But then I could be wrong because I
got rid of him after Rob died because he became more
strong, maybe it was when Rob was in his transition
period after he died?
Carrie: maybe Rob was in a weak period
after he died.
Tia: yeah. Well we're
going to wrap it up now because we don't want to run
up Rusty Nail's telephone bill.
Carrie: oh sure, now leave me with
that kind of thought, that heavy thought on my
Tia: yeah but what better way to let
you go, deep in thought.
Russ: oh wait a minute Carrie.
Russ: I want to find out real quick
SIDE ONE ENDS
finishes where she left off)
Carrie, I always worry about you sweetheart, you
Tia: and I worry about you too sister
mind, I'll be down tonight.
Carrie: okay, I'll be here. Yeah, I
know, I've got to get to bed.
Tia: yeah and Kiri's on about coming
along as well.
Carrie: oh yeah, okay. The more the
Carrie: there is room for everybody.
Tia: oh there will be, there will be.
Carrie: there will be? I don't want to
Russ: good night my love.
Carrie: good night you guys, I love
Russ: love you too babe.
Carrie: and like I told Mark, we'll be
at Mike's mom's if you want to call on Christmas.
Russ: all righty, sounds good.
Carrie: if you can afford it.
Russ: well we'll see what happens.
Tia: okay we'll see you later sister
Carrie: okay, I love you guys.
Tia: yeah, we'll be down, bye.
Russ: bye love. I got to go to the
Tia: pause the tape then.
(Omal comes on to work give some
meta-concert procedure info)
.......felicitations Johnny, greetings and
felicitations Russ, let
us get down to business as time is limited.
Russ: well we got
Omal: okay, questions please.
Omal: yes? Next question?
Russ: okay meta-concert.
Russ: all right, how do soul notes
closely affect the meta-concert?
Omal: soul notes, they can and they
cannot, it depends on the
frequency of the soul notes and the purpose for the
Russ: okay, give me an example of how
they would affect the meta-concert productively.
Omal: productively, in a healing
meta-concert, they would be productive. In a
coercion meta-concert, the frequency of the notes
being in a harmonic range that is harmonious to each
other or the members the meta-concert, it would have
a detrimental fact in that it would drain power from
the purpose of a coercive meta-concert.
Russ: okay, what about a shielding
Omal: shielding certainly, a harmonic
shielding meta-concert with people of a similar
frequency can enhance the meta-concert however,
people that are not harmonically linked with their
frequencies can have just as strong if not stronger
meta-concert if they know how to use the variable
frequencies of the different harmonic frequencies of
the meta-concert of their personal beings.
Russ: okay, now say for example you
have the same group of people and you have three
nights, one with healing, one with coercion, one was
shielding. Now, would you then switch around the
various duties to make those harmonies work for the
Russ: okay so give me an example of
how if in a healing you've got one person
doing executive and so on....
Omal: that would be the
Russ: okay right, you would change
around the next wave for coercion so that the
harmonious soul notes wouldn't affect the
Omal: you would put the strongest
coercer in charge of the final focusing as the
Omal: the same with any other
meta-concert, if you have a strong person in that
particular ability, it is useful to put them in that
position. However, if they are not fully versed on
their ability and only know that they have coercion
and they are a strong coercer but do not know how to
use coercion properly, then it would be silly to put
them as the executive. You would therefore put them
in the primary or the secondary.
Omal: and the same with any other
function. So it is not always best to have the
strongest healer as a healer. Or the strongest
coercer as the executive, or the strongest
psychokinesis person as the executive, it would not
work in that case.
Russ: right because they don't
understand its use properly.
Omal: correct. It is more important
that you have an individual that understands the
ability that is being used. For example you can have
a very weak coercer that can have his ability
enhanced a 100 fold by the meta-concert. Even though
he is weak, it becomes 100% enhanced due to the fact
of the other people in the meta-concert supplying
Russ: okay, now I assume then that
this would be more prevalent between the conductor
and the executive then the other members of the
Omal: correct, it
is handy to have those two individuals being of like
minds and like strengths however it is also
important to have a strong conductor. It is not
necessary for him to have any particular ability
where he is strong, but be able to channel vast
quantities of energy.
Russ: okay now before we discussed the
fact that the conductor has to hold the energy and
store it before he sends it off right?
Russ: okay, now with that much energy
being stored, what are the chances of the conductor
overloading without channeling it out first before
he channels it out?
Omal: he himself can act in an
emergency situation as an executive. It is unfocused
and untrained energy and it is just dissipated. It
is not common for a conductor to cash in his chips.
It does happen from time to time and that is usually
due to inexperience or something going wrong
somewhere else in the meta-concert. For example,
somebody having a massive heart attack in the
primary would cause a flashover which would flash in
both directions and it would be the function of the
conductor to take most of the energy and to take
most of the blast of that individual who has
just dropped out of the meta-concert therefore
saving the rest of the meta-concert by expending
Russ: okay, now one thing about the
conductor that I'm not sure on is that in my healing
where I am working on somebody and I'm draining the
power out or their pain sometimes through my root or
Russ: okay? If the conductor is
properly grounded, couldn't he just ground out any
excess energy coming through thereby saving himself
also and the meta-concert?
Omal: sometimes it doesn't quite work
that way due to the fact of the sudden energy bloom
within him will override everything. Even
passing down as a ground, it will scorch a path
which would drag him down so that he is laid low
Russ: yeah, he's laid up.
Russ: okay now I'm trying to picture a
meta-concert using that much energy and on third
dimension, it's tough to imagine.....on
sixth dimension, I'm sure it's much more prevalent
and much more where you have to be aware of such
things. But on third dimension, it's so rare where
we deal with that much energy in the first place.
Omal: correct, correct. But
sometimes there is that possibility where you would
have 30 or a 100 or 200 or a thousand people
together working for a common good. You could have
56,000 people working together in a meta-concert and
if they were organized correctly, they would've been
able to have picked up the stage and levitated it.
(talking about a
recent Grateful Dead concert
Russ: okay, now a lot of what we're
discussing about meta-concert concerns future use.
Omal: exactly. Most of it is designed
for prosperity.....not prosperity.
Omal: posterity that will be passed on
by people reviewing your tapes or by people that you
teach, it will be passed on and passed on and then
finally put into practice. You are the scribe, you
are the record keeper, you are the librarian.
Russ: the communicator.
Omal: the communicator. So therefore
even though you have practical experience, which is
part of being a librarian that you now have the
knowledge to write it down having experienced it, it
is not necessary for you to do. But it is for you to
understand and be able to write it down in a format
where it would be easy for somebody else to read and
go "Ahh, this is how you do
it"....step one, step two and so on.
Russ: hmmm, you know there are some
kind of computers where they just hear the voice and
they write out what they hear.......
Russ: without somebody having to type
it all in.
Omal: yes I believe Korton has a
couple of those in his antique collection.
Russ: well I'm going to find one in
our newly discovered or invented a while ago but
unpurchased by myself so that I can just play these
tapes and let this stuff just all get written out.
Omal: uh-huh, I think you might be
advisable to look not in your normal computer line.
You may look at a more obscure brand that is
technologically more advanced and the others are
just catching up with their graphics.
Russ: I see.
Omal: in fact you already have part of
Russ: what's that? You
mean the graphic on the wall there?
Omal: no, where is my finger-pointing?
Russ: toward the wall.
Omal: through the wall.
Russ: through the wall.
Omal: through the next room.
Russ: through the next room to the Amiga?
(an old compute brand
and I were using at the time)
Russ: oh okay, I'll look into that.
Omal: yes they are more advanced than
most of your computers. They are just catching up,
they do have voice activated computers does your
Amiga company. They do have a much larger capacity,
they do have a much better link with other computers
of their kind but because of
certain political and economic intrigues within your
Russ: we're stuck with IBM.
Russ: and Microsoft.
Omal: but go outside of the area, that
sphere of influence and what is one of the largest
computer companies on your planet?
Russ: because they're all in Europe.
Russ: so theoretically then I've
the hardware, all I need now is the
software and maybe the little bit of hardware I need
to update that Amiga to make this tape collection
into a written verbiage. Of course some of them will
have to be heavily censored. I don't know how the
computer's going to go...ughgh...errgg...ahhhh.
Omal: I do not know either. You'd have
to talk to our resident antique computer specialist
however he is not available at this time.
Russ: no problem. Okay
now then, back to meta-concert real quickly.
Russ: now I
remember us discussing our party that we were to
held for those...
Omal: oh yes.
Russ: right. Now I'm starting to put
together........this party is designed
to make participants feel closer in tune.
Omal: correct. It is more of a
relaxing situation, there may be or may not be a
channeling session, that is irrelevant. What is
relevant is the fact that these individuals will get
together, if they smoke, they will exchange
cigarettes, they will laugh, they will joke, they
will enjoy alcoholic adult beverages. They may make
fools of themselves but they will be getting to know
Russ: okay, now you're aware of the
person down here called Marsha?
Omal: I have had occasion to have
information on her passed to me.
Russ: okay she is going to be part of
future channeling sessions apparently I found out
Russ: so specifically she might lend a
hand in this meta-concert that we're working
Russ: as an energy source......
Omal: and so we'll get to
know her better with the party so it's kind of
handy we haven't had it yet.
Omal: correct but I don't
think she'll be able to attend until I believe if
Kiri is saying correctly until after your ski season
is over due to the fact of her shift.
Russ: right well maybe we'll schedule
it for it for a day off if we can get the scheduling
Russ: see what happens. Okay, that's
it for me.
Omal: okay questions Johnny. Do you
have any for me?
John: no, my mind's kind of blank
Omal: okay, as Russ was taking up most
of the opportunity for you to discuss and not
nodding in your direction either to see if you had
any questions. To quote Karra, hold out your wrist,
get your two fingers and go (Slaps
Russ: bad boy, bad Russ.
John: what is the ideal number of
people for a meta-concert? Is there an ideal number?
Omal: no there is no ideal number but
preferably five and above.
John: so does the more people that
participate, does it generate more energy?
Omal: correct. By having let us say
five people, you have the minimal number. You have
your primary, number one primary, number two
primary.....sorry secondary. You have your
number one secondary and your number two secondary.
You have your primary you have your conductor and
your executive. Five is the bare minimum. You can
practice with less, you can practice the conductor
and the executive mode but it is really necessary to
have five people. Six people, that is good because
you would bring up one of the experienced
secondaries to a primary role so that the primaries,
instead of having two, has one each. If you have let
us say 10, then you would split up between the
secondaries and the primaries so that it would be a
roughly even number and then you'd save
two people for the conductor and the
John thank you.
Omal: you're welcome.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: live long, prosper and, I'll be
(Tia resumes her ring
John: is that a Schwarzenegger
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: (says hi in
Tia: hello. Okay, I'll see you guys
(Kiri and Karra make their return to chat)
Russ: hi Kiri....oh I'm not
Karra: it's a team effort actually.
(Kiri takes over)
Kiri: oh dear and what have we done to
John: oh I think we caught the flu.
Kiri: hmmm, yes. Tia did give
you a medical Durondedunn remedy did she not?
John: yeah, yeah. I'm going to try it
Kiri: ummm, we suggest that you
try it tonight actually.
Kiri: okay. Secondly, you've been
holding the protein down that you had earlier on
John: yeah I wasn't able to eat very
Kiri: but you ate something?
John: yeah I ate a little bit and I'm
going to try to eat some more.
Kiri: okay that is good. Okay we were
going to come over and channel some energy through
you but I don't think it is necessary however you do
have on your aura, there is a little dark spot down
here which is probably due to the fact of the
vomiting and what does Mark call it? Hold on whilst
we check......coming out of both ends.
(a sudden sound
John: yeah. Yeah I haven't had any
Kiri: what was that?
Russ: the door.
John: that was the door.
Russ: cat just wandered by.
John: we just let a cat in.
Kiri: ahh, okay. So do you
have questions for me? Okay, not at this time. Russ?
Russ: yeah, a couple hundred.
(Karra takes over)
Karra: I wish
she wouldn't make Mark's body do things like that.
Russ: it looks good on you though.
Karra: it probably would look good on
Russ: first off, what is it that
you're not telling me concerning Carrie? Now what is
the big hush-hush here that we need to get possibly
into or not into depending on the circumstances?
Karra: next question please. This is
neither the time to sit down or the place to sit
down and discuss it.
Russ: okay, how about her abductions?
Karra: again this is not the time or
the place. First of all I would like to give her a
physical exam, preferably in person but if not we
will blindfold Carrie and we will use the host body
to do the physical exam.
Russ: okay. Well okay.....
Karra: but blindfold her due to the
fact that she would feel uncomfortable having a male
body give her the physical exam.
Russ: right. Well we'll have to go to
the wedding after all to get that one done. That
will be quite a wedding present.
Karra: yes, a total physical
Russ: okay well.....
Karra: the reason
why we won't discuss Carrie at this time is because
of that so we will not discuss the problems of the
abduction or her physical conditions.
John: because it's being recorded?
Karra: and somebody does have a way of
keeping track of time and does know when things are
Russ: okay, we'll save
that for future reference.
Karra: besides Tia is informing me
that he is at 45%.
(Mark's power levels)
Russ: oh okay. Well what have you got
for me babe?
Karra: well what I've got for you I
can't give you in this physical form but
on the other hand let me see, well we've got dad
coming next week.
Karra: so we're going to have a little
bit of a party, just our half of the
Russ: oh good.
Karra: the other half isn't invited
because this is a eldest daughter thing.
Karra: big sister puts her foot down
and says no to her little sister.
Russ: oh, temper tantrum. This should
be fun to watch.
Karra: no, I do not have a temper
tantrum. It is.....
Russ: no, not you, Kiri.
Karra: okay, anymore questions?
Russ: yeah, why do you have so much
patience with me sweetheart?
Karra: when you 70 or 80 years plus or
70 years plus, I stopped counting,
will learn patience too.
Russ: I'm sure I will. I'll probably
have patience with myself that is now then at that
Karra: uh-huh, that is the first rule
to learning patience is having patience with
yourself with the failings of your body. You've got
to understand that you are not Superman, you are
limited by this flesh and bone, this cartilage, this
calcium, this iron, this potassium, all the
chemicals that are in here and in here is what
limits you. You cannot dive underwater and hold your
breath for half an hour. You cannot fly through the
air for a 100 miles, not unless you wish to get
burned to a cinder or frozen. You cannot walk
outside in conditions of minus a hundred
and fifty without feeling cold and
John: can you do all that stuff?
Karra: no, I wish I could but I can't.
Russ: well maybe someday. Well thank
Karra: not in this form,
I've got many, many, many lifeforms before I will be
able to do any of those things.
(Tia wraps up the channeling session)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: hello, greetings.
(talks to the cat in
Tia: is he hiding?
John: he's just playing.
Russ: that is another good fun little
bet me and Kiri got on.
Tia: yes, you guys do bet a lot
against each other don't you?
Russ: yeah well, I think it'll be a
fun challenge for her.
Russ: yeah she hasn't seen the
intermediate course yet.
Russ: makes the Alpha Centauri course
look like novice time.
Tia: you haven't seen the full
Russ: no I haven't.
Tia: you haven't skied on a hologram
mode, I have and boy, my heart was pounding and that
was just looking down the course.
Russ: yeah no kidding.
John: so you guys don't ski on snow?
John: oh okay.
Tia: yeah we just have holograms of
John: oh okay, so it is just like a
flight simulator, would that be comparable?
Tia: yeah, that would be comparable.
It's a simulator of the course that we will be
competing on in late March.
John: I see, I understand now.
Tia: uh-huh. It was nice that sister
Russ: yeah, that was a fun little
John: yeah she seems to be in good
Tia: yeah, we almost got reprimanded.
Tia: well when I was talking to her
and I kept on getting prodded it was where I was
Russ: well maybe she wasn't looking
where she was prodding.
Tia: she was looking where she was
prodding and making comments in my ear wishing that it
Tia: which is just as well that she
took it for a spin because it gave me a chance to
rearrange my panties.
Russ: oh good.
Russ: oh, Calvin didn't come.
Tia: uh-huh. (sings
a ditty) This one needs cleaning.
(The copper poles of the
pyramid that was being built for
Mark to channel in.)
Russ: yeah, we'll put the works
John: what do you use, like Brasso or
Tia: what's this?
John: it's an ashtray.
Tia: oh okay.
John: it's a Polish ashtray.
Russ: it's disguised as a
John: looks like a peanut can but it's
actually an ashtray.
Tia: terrible, disgusting, ucky habit.
John: what's that, peanuts?
Tia: no, smoking. Yeah but if you're
peeing nuts you got to go and see a
doctor. Actually, if you're peeing nuts, I suppose
you could make a lot of money.
John: you're probably right.
Tia: uh-huh. Oh dear,
dear, dear, dear, dear. Next week is a free week, we
will be channeling from the channeling room.....
Tia: and as for the party, let us go
for it in the New Year and let's get everybody
together, send out official
invites. Can we do that?
Russ: oh yeah, I can do them off my
John: that's easy.
Tia: probably leave it open for a
channeling session but not totally open if you know
what I mean.
Tia: is there anybody else? And Carrie
Russ: oh really? What, over a phone
call or something?
Tia: but address it as special "even
though that you will not be here in person, we know
you'll be here in spirit."
Russ: okay, I shall do so.
has raised numerous questions which I shall have
lots of fun trying to discover the answers to.
Tia: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: like for example, why is some
folks taking such an interest in somebody and why
those same folks take such an interest in us? Second
answer is much easier to answer than the first.
Tia: okay, what is the answer to the
Russ: because of the fact that Mark
and my association with you guys up on Hades Base
makes us an obvious candidate for surveillance.
Tia: uh-huh. You're also
cutting somebody out that needs to be
Russ: who? Mike or Rob oh
Kiri: uh-huh. I don't think Johnny
realizes it but now that he's been introduced to us
and the channeling sessions and all that
goes on, he has now become a target also for
surveillance and abduction.
Russ: now Tia?
Russ: Carrie's health problems would
Russ: oh wait, oh wait, that's right,
nevermind I forgot.
Russ: again, I'm just going to be
dwelling on this all night.
Tia: uh-huh. Yes I know, I know,
Carrie. But what we might do is, does she have a
video player does she?
Tia: what we could do is, you and Mark
could rent a video recorder..........
Tia: and at the party we'll video
Russ: oh that will really make
everybody just loosen up won't it? I don't think so,
Tia: it's for Carrie.
Russ: I know it's for Carrie. Well in
that case, let's just hook up a VCR feed right
through the computer on a fax mode to her and she
can watch us on the computer, we could talk to her
Tia: I've got a better idea,
session. We'll get one in there and so that she can
be in here when she calls right? And we can record
it with the video camera and then mail it to her.
And we can have, let me see......
Russ: that saved you. I need to get
somebody into the channeling sessions that's got
some VCR equipment.
Tia: yeah what we can do is we could
put the video recorder above the telephone right?
And put a pair of boots and a pair of jeans and
stuff them right? So you put....it's like the
telephone....her voice is coming from the telephone
it's her there as her eyes are the camera and the
trousers represent her legs with the boots.
Russ: oh, fair enough.
Tia: uh-huh. Would you like Kiri's new race outfit?
Russ: I haven't seen it yet.
Tia: oh. You might be able to pick it
up on the computer net, the racing.
Tia: yeah, but don't look at me when
Russ: oh, I'll make a point of it.
Tia: uh-huh, skip over that bit. But
I'll tell you what is spectacular, is the
crash....Kiri's crash for the super G.
Russ: oh yeah that one.
Russ: oh well.
John: can't you get video equipment
from the guy that works next door to you? Can't he
give you some kind of break?
Russ: doesn't have any recorders, I
John: oh I see.
Russ: he rents VCRs.
John: right, right. I wasn't sure.
Russ: but no cameras.
Russ: a whole other
he's pretty good about cutting you some breaks on
Russ: well I can get a hold of some
cameras........aah, I've got to
work on that part, it
would be a lot easier to just video record this
(Tia plays with the cat)
Tia: has his tail got enlarged?
John: not that I had noticed,
been broken a few times.
Tia: no I thought it had fluffed up.
to the cat)
we're playing aren't we huh?
John: yeah it could have been from the
static electricity too.
Tia: yeah it's possible, because he is
pumping and snicking. You ready for round two buddy
boy? I'll have a cup of tea please.
SIDE TWO ENDS
Carrie had a biopsy done and was found to have
cancer with little chance of having children.
Omal organized a meta-concert of a 1,000
individuals on the base channeled through
Mark. Doctors were amazed when they had to
call off the surgery due to the lack of any
traces of the cancer in a follow-up exam. She
and Mike had a beautiful daughter later on who
I met when she had just turned