(Karra takes on the role of temporary ring
Karra: okay, well as it seems that I'm
ring mistress temporarily, let us get right down to
Karra: and get things taken care of as
quickly and cleanly as possible.
Karra: I’ll see you guys in a few.
(Omal comes on to
lead off a night of distinguished speakers.)
Omal: good evening Johnny, good
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: how is it functioning?
Russ: oh real well, how about
Omal: oh I cannot grumble.
Omal: down to business.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay, you have questions?
Omal: okay, let us start in
no particular order.
Russ: well fair enough,
I'd like to get a spelling of your
name for access search on the online.
I’ve got it O.m.a.l. but I could be wrong.
Omal: that sounds correct, there are
several different spellings of my name but that is
the most commonly used.
John: would you go ahead and give Russ
the other most common misspellings of your name just
for cross-references please?
Omal: O.m.a.l., e.l.
John: thank you. I’m real curious
about this huge oil
spill off the coast of Wales….
John: and the environmental impact and
just……I just get this sinking feeling…..this
is kind of a combination question. I mean there
seems like there’s going to be a lot of this type of
thing coming and happening, am I correct?
Omal: well there is a lot going on at
the moment. For example, there is a breakdown in the
peace process in Palestine.
John: yes, correct.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the
peace process in Ireland.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the
peace process in Bosnia.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the
peace process in a couple of African states.
Omal: also in other parts of the
John: well Cuba
just shot down two of our civilian planes and
right now it looks like we could go to war with Cuba
and it’s a very, very volatile situation. We were
talking about stage one in the past. Things
seem to be escalating and at the
same time our economic situation seems to be
escalating and Clinton is going to get reelected and
I don’t know, it seems like this is happening too
fast you know what I mean?
Omal: oh it is happening at a rather
rapid speed but it does fit in very well with Tia’s
predictions and the information that she has been
able to gather and correlate
and work with. She has established very fine lines
that seem to be perfect for what is occurring at
John: okay but from our standpoint
since we’re here….
John: I mean are we taking a
correct route in what we're doing as far
as covering our asses?
Omal: yes. You are preparing very
nicely, not rapidly as one
would wish, but a lot faster than one would expect
John: should we speed things up or am
I just being apprehensive?
Omal: it is understandable for you to
be apprehensive and knowing what is going to happen
seeing these events occurring is……it is better to be
prepared then not be prepared. It is your own choice
at which speed you progress.
John: thank you.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Russ: now I want
to go a little bit of
online questions real quick.
Omal: I would save that for a computer
Russ: magic and us and what’s going on
with you, where does that all come into
the picture and where are we going with it?
Omal: define magic, I have
approximately a dozen different references that I
can think of.
Russ: well for example, Mark’s work
Omal: uh-huh, who?
Omal: Diana and who?
Russ: I thought it was Kern, I could
Omal: I believe the K should be dropped
and supplemented with an
Russ: oh Herne,
right, I learned from
a different teacher. Diane and Herne and it seems
like we're blending past and futures to come up with
a sort of amalgamation of the present.
Omal: yes, often the future and the
present do have a blending of the past. For example,
we have the present with the blending of very
ancient equipment using very modern equipment which
is switched on am I correct?
Russ: double checking and we are
rocking and rolling.
Omal: good, so you have both past and
present being used for the future.
John: you betcha and we should use all
of our technology to our mutual advantage, am I
Omal: certainly, certainly.
John: both ancient and recent
technology should be combined....
Omal: very much so.....
John: that’s why we're here.
that is correct.
John: thank you, I knew that.
Russ: right, so how do we
bring in Diana into our most advantageous state from
Omal: Mark is very protective over
that is he not?
Omal: it would be best to discuss it
with him in person.
Omal: I’m sure that with a little bit
of prodding he may open up but there again it is
hard to say, he seems to have some heavy natural
barriers that we have difficultly
penetrating. They seem to be
deeply ingrained and very active when pushed on that
Russ: well I assume that he’s got to
have an agenda on that one.
Russ: okay. One of the things that I
wanted to talk to you about that I'll
also be talking to Kiri about is....and Tia, channeling
Russ: in the future. I don’t know if
it’s been done or if it’s been going on now but I’m
wondering if some point in the future if it hasn’t
been done, if we could do something world
shaking you might say.
Omal: oh you mean direct access and
intervention by Tia from our dimension to your
Russ: right well I mean well
actually this would be Kiri in conjunction with Tia
channeling from my computer at work to other people
who are online who are interested in
Omal: I think Kiri and Tia would have
to get used to your keyboard before they would be
able to channel directly.
John: excuse me.
John: is there a security risk with
Russ attempting such a thing?
Omal: yes and no, yes in
the fact that it would be a reference point but for
us it would be minimal,
you it would be higher risk than for us.
John: okay, now with the risks
mean there's a fine line and in my
mind I want to use caution, intelligent caution.
Omal: sometimes caution can be not
very useful. For example, take a historic
event where caution was used and was very costly. I
where your American forces landed and sat
on the beach for approximately a week
amassing a lot of equipment and were promptly chewed
to pieces when they tried
to go inland into Italy.
John: oh okay, excuse me, so we should
be balls the walls and just do it?
John: just everything, just balls the
walls or what?
Omal: I wouldn't say going flat out, I
would say that caution is necessary but you can also
be working quickly and cautious at the same time. It
depends on the situation that you’re in at a
particular time. One month or one week could be
necessary to be cautious and the following week it
could be necessary to be as quick as possible to
amass as much equipment as possible so it is
necessary to use both and analyze each situation
carefully before advancing into it.
Russ: so the key is to weigh
Russ: okay, hmm.
John: thank you, it was very, very
much what I wanted to hear.
Russ: now when I did some
research online about Ashtar….
Omal: yes, it is old information.
Russ: I wasn’t sure, there wasn’t any
dates on this thing.
Omal: no it is rehashes and
discussions on what was. Unfortunately the Sedona
area is starting to be corrupted. There
is people moving in that are no longer interested in
the goodness and the exchange of information, they
are more interested in what’s in it for me.
Omal: I believe Johnny noticed that
before he left that there was an increase in psychic
readings, people that were there to make money for
themselves, selling crystals for personal gain, no
longer the friendly camaraderie of the area that
there once was. When you were there
Russ and when we used to channel a
lot from there….
Omal: the group in Sedona that was
there is breaking up and is more self-centered with
how can I do this, how can I do that? Not with
asking questions on advancement, they're
more concerned with how to deal with matters of a
personal nature which I find myself very irritating
at times but have to sit down and hold
someone’s hand and bring them
through a trivial crisis.
John: can I ask you about the fragment
of truth that was left in Sedona before I left….
Omal: uh-huh, a very
small fragment that is finding it harder to get hold
John: they’re leaving, everyone’s
Omal: that is because it is breaking down.
They will tell you that it has become corrupted with
I believe you would call money grabbers?
John: oh yeah but that was happening
long before I left and while I was leaving and that
was one of the biggest reasons why I'm leaving, why
Omal: it is still growing and the
people that are looking for the truth are moving
away, they are searchers as was the young lady
visiting from the continent below who is a searcher
and they go where they think it is advantageous for
them to learn.
John: okay now Pete and Gina who are
very close to me, very much spiritually in tune….
Omal: uh-huh, when are they arriving?
John: they'll be coming through here
and they’re going to Idaho and they really feel that
their sanctuary is in Idaho. How
do you feel about that, about strategic placement
and whether I'm here in Tahoe or in Idaho or in my
camp in New York or my place in Arizona?
Omal: every possibility must be
analyzed and looked at. It
may be necessary to retreat to Arizona but in a very
devious sort of way.
Omal: by going the most indirect route
may be the most direct. Instead of going
directly to Arizona, it may be advantageous to go to
New York and then backtrack. There are things in New
York that are easier to get at then there are in
Arizona. So it would be advantageous to do a
backtrack or you may find it easier to go to Idaho
before retreating to Arizona or vice versa, Arizona
before retreating to the East.
John: yes I see.
Omal: so you have to have more than
one line of escape planned or it may be necessary to
drag people from those places, those
connections to a central point.
John: and out of all the places I've
mentioned, can you give me any insight which would
be a good central point?
Omal: well Idaho has its
advantages of being a good central rendezvous point
all parties from all parts of the country. Arizona
has its advantages because of the cabins located in
that area. New York has its advantages because it is
a easy access sea point to retreat even further if
necessary and Lake Tahoe is a
John: so we’ve pretty much covered the
United States and you’ve been....
Omal: unfortunately yes,
everything has its advantages.
John: lovely vague you
know what I mean where I guess it’s
just up to me where…..
Omal: yes, that is what I’m saying….
John: where I go and what I do.
Omal: everything has its advantages
and each situation has a particular area which is
advantageous to retreat to. If you stay in the same
location, that in itself may be advantageous to have
an area to retreat back to. Let’s say for example
you decide to retreat to your family….
Omal: you arrive there....
John: yes okay, excuse
Omal: the situation in the East is
very, very bad. Rioting on a daily basis, mass
migration out of the cities into the countryside,
defending your property being very costly in not
only munitions but in life, you decide to retreat
away from that area, cutting your losses and
retreating to your friends in Idaho.
John: yeah but....
Russ: hard to imagine
they'd be but as a
hypothetical situation, anything
John: so we would retreat
Omal: from one place to another. When
you plan a battle, you have to plan for
every eventuality. You have to plan for how far you
wish to advance, if the advance is going to be easy
or hard or even if you have to retreat, you have to
plan every possible avenue. If you do not consider
the idea of retreat, then you are cutting off an
option that may save your lives.
Omal: so it is necessary to plan for
everything. You have to plan for a very, very wide
area. The plans that you make with your family are
very good, you must keep on
with those but you must also plan for the worst. If
you do not plan for the worse, then you are cutting
off a very useful learning tool and something that
may be needed. When you plan for the worst, you have
to look at the worst-case scenario and when you look
at the worst-case scenario, make it even worse.
think of everything that can go wrong and I do mean
everything, even earthquakes, even volcanic
activity, even nuclear strike. So it is necessary to
plan for everything accordingly. Okay, next
Russ: okay, whether you can answer
this or not I’m not sure. Ashtar's visit,
was regarding us or have any effect on us?
Omal: it has no effect whatsoever but
it would be useful to ask him himself.
Russ: is he here?
Russ: fair enough.
Omal: okay, last question from each of
John: my move to Lake
Tahoe has been very good for me and
I’m not sure to the extent of my sabbatical or
training with Mark and Russ, I’m not sure how far
this is going to go. I don’t know if they’re going
to travel with me back East or if we’re
going to be here but I’m assuming I’m on the right
Omal: yes, you are on a path of
learning and preparation. Everything even if it is
really bad does serve the function of being a
learning lesson. As I’ve stated in the past, it is
not something to relish, it is something to live
through and to be able to pass on the knowledge that
you have learned. The pioneers of your country
suffered greatly but yet out of that suffering came
a country with infinite possibilities, not all good
and not all bad but there is infinite possibilities
where it could have gone and infinite possibilities
of where it has gone so the struggle is necessary
for the advancement of your race. I do not say
struggle in the sake of struggle for itself but
if it comes, then it must be dealt with and
in turn those that survive do
improve the country. Okay Russ?
Russ: the scenario that you painted
would make an excellent computer game called
"Collapse" in which America collapses financially
and you must go to various places in the country to
pick up certain items that you can’t get other
places to take them back to certain places to make
your refuge. I might have to get together
with someone here and work on that,
what do you think?
Omal: if you wish.
Russ: good idea.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: thank you, you’re welcome.
John: thank you so much.
Omal: live long, prosper and I’ll see
you guys later.
John: see you around bub.
(Karra makes a quick transition between
Russ: good computer game.
John: good session.
Karra: okay, next person.
John: okay and Mark has been brutal
ill. In fact
I've been worried about him and his voice is still
(Korton shares his
extensive computer knowledge with us.)
Korton: greetings of felicitations.
Greetings Russ, greetings Johnny, let us get down to
John: is this Ashtar we are
Korton: no, no.
Russ: good afternoon Korton.
Korton: good afternoon.
John: long time no see.
Korton: yes, it is a very long time.
Okay, let us attend to the situation at hand.
me start by saying that the way you are proceeding
at a cautious but yet steady rate is very
advantageous for the advancement of the situations
that are possible in the near future. The
occurrences that have been happening are part of the
projections by our analysts. Okay now,
Russ: okay, you're not
the computer expert Omal was talking about are you?
Korton: yes I am.
Russ: you are, good.
Korton: antique computers as
you know is my specialty.
Russ: of course, I wasn’t sure if he
meant you or Tia. Now when we’re talking about the
preparations, my getting online,
working with computers are part of those
Russ: okay, I’m learning as
I go to make this a speedier process, how can I use
it more to my advantage with the online service?
Korton: okay what you do is download,
you upgrade your system and download.
Russ: add more memory?
Korton: yes, it is very advantageous
when you are dealing with computers to download
information into your computer, you read it then
Russ: oh okay.
Korton: or print it up.
I personally when I am working my antiques, I will
print up old information and I will then
read the information in the soft form.
I understand that you are charged for the time that
you are on the computer.
Korton: so it is quicker to download
information and then read it at your convenience
when you’re not being charged.
Russ: oh okay, that is a
much better idea. I'll get a
couple gigs of memory.
Russ: okay, Johnny?
John: I’m totally and completely
John: but I have my distinct
advantages with our preparation for what’s
John: I understand the use of
computers and how it can be helpful but for me I'm
just spontaneous, no computers.
I have a hard time spelling Apple
correctly but that’s not to my disadvantage is it?
Korton: no it is not.
people find computers intimidating.......
John: yes I do.
Korton: it is a tool that is not for
them if you know what I mean, it is more of a
hindrance in the learning ability for them. It is
like a scribe of the past and the master tradesman.
One cannot exist without the other. For example,
Russ may be computer literate but there again can he
skin and butcher an animal?
John: no he can’t.
Korton: so therefore both of you
complement each other very well.
John: okay so I’m…..with me being
Korton: you use it as a trade.
get somebody like Russ that is computer
literate and you say, "okay, I need
information, this is what I want. In
return, I will cook your dinner for you."
John: all right.
Korton: so it is a trade that is very
useful. After all, most computer people do not have
time to sit down and cook themselves a dinner,
they’re more interested in having a quick snack and
working with their computer. It is like
some of our engineers here that they’d sooner work
on their equipment designing things then
go home and have a lunch.
John: okay, all right.
Korton: but if you were in
return for getting information for trade.
John: are you the one to ask about as
far as the food and the nutrition?
Korton: that would be Karra.
John: okay, I thought so. Do
you have insight on that?
Korton: high-protein is sometimes the
way to go. High-protein in small qualities will keep
you on your feet quicker and longer then low-protein
in mass quantity or high-protein in
high quantity. I believe you would say
Korton: when on the move.
John: okay and with my particular
metabolism, I need to eat on a regular basis
otherwise I’ll be…..I would…..I can have a problem
with my blood sugar.
John: but I do have incredible
Korton: well it is handy to have a
piece of bread that it has sugars which release in
the system very quickly and gives you the energy for
John: well I know if I eat a
piece of bread or some crackers when I’m lightheaded
or feeling my sugar being low is better than eating
a candy bar or drinking some soda pop.
Korton: that is too high in sugar
Korton: it will give you a sugar rush.
John: I have a problem with that with
working the way I do……
John: and just being able to live with
sugar rush and the caffeine….
Korton: yes it does lead to some
interesting effects from what I have seen. Okay,
last question from each of you for me.
Russ: okay, what’s your email address?
Korton: it is dot com, I don’t think
you would be able to access it. You need a
computer….a satellite uplink.
Russ: oh. (Chuckles.)
Korton: a direct satellite uplink.
Russ: it is Korton.com.
Korton: not Korton.
John: how do you spell your name?
John: is there any other
Korton: again, yes there are. Okay,
Russ: thank you Korton.
(Karra returns to make the hand-off.)
Karra: okay, next person.
Russ: hi Karra, it sounds much better.
Karra: yes, I was told not
John: are you in a hurry?
Russ: she was earlier.
John: you in a hurry now?
Russ: no, she’s gone.
John: she’s gone
Russ: she’s gone.
(Ashtar honors us with a
Ashtar: greetings of felicitations.
Okay, let us get down to business quickly and
precisely as I do have depart. First of all, I would
like to congratulate you on your
equipment that you have achieved for yourselves,
this is very good and very promising. Secondly I
would like to thank our computer genius
who unfortunately needs a break from her work but it
is necessary for her well-being to achieve a
constant high standard of work that she has been
doing. I would like to thank Mrs. Crocker as she
wishes to be called at this time for her very high
standard of work and I thought it would be necessary
to thank her in front of everybody.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Ashtar: okay, now let me continue.
With what is occurring now at this time, it is
necessary to keep a very close eye for key events
that will occur. I am not allowed by
my own directives to tell you what those events are
but you will know them when they occur. It is
necessary to watch out for them. Next I would like
to move on a little bit and discuss the technical
growth that will be necessary to achieve. A while
back it was requested by Russ to continue with the
studies on meta-concert and shielding,
that time it was denied. Again it will be denied for
a little while longer but in the near future you
will be dealing with growth in meta-concert and the
next stage in shielding. Also what will
be covered in the shielding is the earlier stages for
a clearer clarification and better
explanation for those that do not have adequate
shielding. Shielding tests will
occur, randomly. Next I would like to move on again
to shielding of your abode and the reasons for its
dismantling and uses. As you were well
aware, a young lady that you know needed shielding.
The shielding that is around her current habitation
is a variation on what was around yours however,
yours had a filler, hers does not. It has another
substance which is a reflective substance which is
more of a dampening field of the energy of the
house. Again it has been keyed to Tia’s access code
and to Carrie’s access code. I believe Mike is
experimenting with astral travel even though it is
subconscious it has been keyed to him.
is unusual to have a shield keyed to so many
different variables so she has a variable,
modulating shielding system.
Ashtar: okay, questions.
Russ: okay, with the turmoil
coming up, how would be the best way to learn to
expand consciously through this?
Russ: ahhh okay, Johnny?
John: is it advisable, is it safe to
share our knowledge that we get through you and the
knowledge we gain ourselves? I mean we’re growing
and learning at such a fast pace here.
Ashtar: to the necessary few that
have the right aptitude, yes. The lady from the
southern, inverted continent is very good point to
use to spread knowledge to different parts of the
world. Also something that should be covered is the
preparation for a gene pool.
Ashtar: that will be dealt
with by our resident geneticist at his convenience.
Ashtar: next question.
Russ: okay, the information that I’m
gathering from the online services that are
associated with you, is this you actually or a part
Ashtar: some of it is me, some is
attributed to me but is not.
Ashtar: next question please.
Russ: okay, what is the photon belt that
we have got online is attributed to you?
Ashtar: that is attributed to me, it
is not me.
Ashtar: is a reference I’m not sure
Russ: alright, it confused
Ashtar: next question Johnny.
John: the Hubble telescope, I
understand it has photographs or visualized
some of your reconnaissance vehicles or some
of your activities….
John: is it true, has the Hubble
Ashtar: when you say you, you mean
extraterrestrials? That is correct, there have been
little technical glitches that are perceived as
technical glitches that are extraterrestrial. As for
us, if it is accidental, then it needs to be
addressed and will not happen again.
John: okay and please don’t
misunderstand my use of saying you and using that
Ashtar: I understand.
John: it was not an insult.
Ashtar: okay last question Russ?
Russ: okay, speaking on the same terms
Johnny was, that satellite that broke through
the tether from the space shuttle?
Ashtar: that was not us.
Russ: that wasn't you, okay thank you.
Ashtar: last questions
John: overall, on our third
dimensional planet here, things are really shaky and
seem to be very, very volatile. Oh God, what is my
question? Where do we go from here?
Ashtar: to answer your question I will
give you an analogy. Things always appear worse
before sunrise which means that the situation that
is coming will be preceded with the
rising of the sun if you understand what I mean.
John: yes, I'm going to
weather it, I will survive it, thank you so much.
Ashtar: thank you.
Russ: thank you Ashtar.
(Kiri makes it to chat to
take over as ring mistress.)
Kiri: yo, I finally arrived.
Russ: oh my God.
John: where the heck you been?
Kiri: I’ve been in a meeting.
Russ: that’s a good excuse.
Kiri: yes, that is a good excuse.
I’ve been in a meeting with the crèche parents for
John: was he misbehaving?
Kiri: no actually, he’s been very well
behaved, he’s been as they
put it a typical super operant. They’re both super
operants and they’re expecting.
Russ: oh congratulations to
John: so when he’s been behaving
himself, you mean he eats the hamsters whole and
spits their tails out?
(John is confusing the
son of Kiri with the daughters of Tia
who are of two totally separate races.)
Kiri: no, he doesn’t eat hamsters,
he’s a typical Sirian. He loves fish, can't hold
it down very well at the moment because he’s too
young. He behaves himself. He is a as they put it, a
good child which made me laugh
because they don’t see him at home and they said
that they can imagine as they're expecting
their second child.
Russ: was their first one
was a super operant also?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh, it’s normally the
way that it happens.
John: Mark was telling me about
Leonedies putting him in a bubble and thinking it
was a big joke and Mark almost
Kiri: I think that was something that
I thought was best not to bring up in
the meeting, it was like a parents
Russ: PTA kind of thing?
John: yeah, yeah, is it okay with me
bringing it up now?
Kiri: oh yeah, I think it was funny
actually looking back on it. At the time it was…..
John: well I mean I’m picturing Mark
in my mind in this bubble trying to get out and this
small super child just….
Kiri: well he wasn’t the
only person involved in it.
John: I know, I know.....
Kiri: he was in a meta-concert.
Russ: he was in meta-concert
with some other children.
Kiri: uh-huh, yes the Cubs.
John: yes but they blew Mark away
temporarily at least.
Kiri: well five individuals of the
same mental strength as an adult joined together will
overpower an adult.
John: yes, Mark found that out.
John: did you find it amusing?
John: did you know what was going on
the kids were doing that to him?
Kiri: not originally no, when I got
there I assessed the situation and I just disrupted
the meta-concert. It’s pretty easy to do actually.
John: why can’t Mark do that?
Kiri: because he’s not a powerful
coercer like I am.
John: is he a powerful coercer in the
Kiri: he’s got quite a lot of coercive
ability but compared to myself, he is
Russ: well Kiri, I look
forward to our work here coming up with
Russ: and we get to a point
where I can maintain shielding on a constant level
without having to keep reinforcing all the
time, especially when like Ashtar is in town.
Kiri: and especially when you’re up
John: and I’m assuming the testing
will involve me also?
Kiri: uh-huh but it will be random,
very random and it will come from sources that
you wouldn’t even know.
John: okay and I’m expecting you’ll be
involved more directly….
John: then Ashtar is. I
mean would he
Kiri: oh, not personally until it came
to I think you would say
Russ: like this time I could feel him
testing my shields but unfortunately my shielding
needs more work because I can’t maintain it at a
strong enough level for the entire time he's
coming on and off.
John: well it sent shivers up
and down my spine.
Russ: well he was
just giving you a little, minor probe.
John: oh yeah.
me he was a bit more....of a
John: serious with you?
Kiri: put it this way, if he was to
probe you at his normal level for operants up here,
you would go AHHHHH and your head with
boil and I don’t mean that a negative way, I
John: my head would boil?
Kiri: well that’s what it would feel
Russ: yeah I got a headache from it.
John: it wouldn’t literally boil would
Kiri: no but that’s what it would feel
begins side two but doesn't stay very
John: .......more direct?
Kiri: he's going to try, if
not, he will send
his deputies or he will make a deputy. But for
John: is that
anyone I’ve met?
uh-huh, well he will decide at the time. Anyway
I’ve got to…..
John: and whom
might that be?
Kiri: it could be
myself, he could ask Korton to sit in for him, he
could send another Council member, he could send
anybody or ask anybody that he wishes. After all,
as he once said, he is the base commander.
John: and Ashtar,
is he…..? He seemed to be pleased with everything
Kiri: I thought
Russ: good luck
with the ski races darling.
Kiri: oh thank
you yes, I leave on Wednesday of next week so I
will be briefly at the next channeling session so
we will deal with what happens then. I believe it
might have to be an early channeling session as
well like 7:30, otherwise I’m going to miss it.
John: but the
rest of the gang will be there right?
John: if you
can’t make it?
Okay, I’m going to step aside and put on the next
person as I am supposed to be ring mistress and I
would like to thank my elder for sitting in for
(Karra returns to channel as
Russ: hi darling.
Karra: I get to
John: I've been
wondering about coercion?
Russ: you have to
ask Kiri for that.
John: yeah I
know, I know but I’ve been wanted to ask her
Russ: well, Omal
did mention something about you and nutrition that
you could ask Karra.
Karra: oh yes,
John: yes and
also with…..okay I’ve got my knowledge and no
computer background, you listened in to the
meeting and everything…
John: okay so you
already know what's been discussed….
Karra: what you
can do is as Omal suggested, make a trade. You
want information on nutritional levels, talk to my
my dear life mate to ask him to find nutritional
supplements or a protein that could be used
cheaply that gives a high-protein in return. I can
give you suggestions.....
John: okay no, I
maybe misstated the question, okay......I know
about proteins and diets and recipes and different
John: now I’m
talking about buying survival food, lentils and
beans and coming up with good, well-balanced
nutritional vegetarian diets which us carnivores
can incorporate food into. And even Russell gets
carnivorous you know what I mean where he won’t
eat a pig but he’ll eat a chicken.
John: you know
what I mean? And….
Karra: well there
is a supplement that you can add that will fool
you into thinking that it is beef, lamb,
John: okay, I
have no problem with a vegetarian diet.
John: what I’m
concerned with is a well-balanced nutrition,
economics and availability on our planet in this
third dimensional space. Rice, beans….
Karra: there are
many possibilities…..yes, rice, beans, nuts, never
John: nuts are
supplement are you talking about Karra?
Karra: I believe
you call them bouillon?
Russ: oh bouillon.
John: yeah but
you know what’s in bouillon?
You know what’s actually in that?
there’s a lot of chemicals I'm aware of,
monosodium glutamate being one of them.
John: yes it’s
great stuff, I added MSG. But I mean I’m familiar
with using both chicken and beef bouillon in my
gravies and sauces. I mean if you make a chicken
stock from scratch, you take the chicken juice and
if you don’t add some chicken bouillon to it, you
don’t get the full flavor okay?
Karra: I do not
eat any meat myself personally, I eat fish only
but that is a racial thing for us.
John: okay now
with getting fish and using dried fish and canned
John: okay? I
mean it’s a good viable source of protein, there’s
no doubt about it.
Karra: uh-huh, it
is very enjoyable.....
Russ: to each
Karra: to eat all
different types of fish. Anyway, I am hogging a
lot of time and we have a guest speaker that has
just been added.
John: you don't
understand Russ, I'm trying to find good fish to
(Kiri transfers speakers once more.)
Kiri: you have a
quick question for me don’t you?
Kiri: okay, ask
John: I forgot
what it was, you guys been whipping around
Kiri: write it
down and ask me next week. Write it down, stick it
in front of the clock so you can ask me next week.
I've got to put on the next person, okay.
Russ: bye Kiri.
takes a break from her sabbatical to channel.)
(Tia says high in
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: you're the
Tia: no I’m not a
speaker, they're going to put the guest speaker on
last of all.
quite a guest.
Tia: I feel quite
important at the moment, I’ve never been
complemented like that before.
Russ: on tape
Tia: yes. I feel
very, very, very, very honored.
John: well you
should be, you’ve been very helpful.
Russ: I don't
know, I thought taking you from work would be a
worse idea than leaving you on work.
taking you from work…
Tia: well, it is
a crucial time. Anyway, I’ve got something to say
Tia: (Sings the
birthday song for Mark and myself who both have
birthdays on this day.)
Russ: thank you
Tia: and Mark.
Russ: and Mark of
Tia: got any
questions for me?
Russ: oh you want
Russ: oh okay, go
John: (Laughs) oh
yeah thanks.....got me spinning. Okay, we’ve been
talking a lot and focusing on changing world
Tia: I can't
answer those questions at the moment.
John: yes, well
alright let me lead up to this.
John: I'll make
it as brief as possible. Okay and as far as
economics and just nutrition and the basic bottom
John: I've been
told we’re approaching the situation correctly….
John: and to keep
on doing what we’re doing. As far as……I mean I
don’t know whether to ask about nutrition or
Tia: well I was a
priestess when I was younger, bet you didn’t know
John: I didn’t
know. What’s your assessment of this whole third
dimensional thing we’re trying to do and.....?
Tia: I think
you’re going the right way. I really.......because
I’m on sabbatical and I’m not allowed to answer
questions of a political or nature on what I
normally do. I miss that but they think I need a
John: yeah well
it’s understandable but you do understand where it
put me in a funny position where I was going to
ask you a heavy question and now......
Tia: and now
you're not allowed to and it is frustrating. I
would love to answer any question but I’m not
allowed to because I’m not supposed to think about
Russ: what about
on astral travel?
Tia: yeah sure.
Russ: oh great.
Russ: now, with
the traveling up to see Karra for me….
Russ: I was
really in a lot of trouble trying to stay focused
and not letting my mind just keep wandering.
Tia: well you
aren’t helping doing burning the candle at both
Russ: yeah but I
still want to focus anyway. You see with what’s
coming up in the future all right? I’ve got to be
able to do a lot more than I’m doing now and still
have access to my astral form.
Tia: I wouldn’t
worry about it at the moment because you are
working hard. I wouldn’t condemn yourself to what
you would call purgatory because you can’t focus
at this time.
Russ: but still,
it’s something I have to learn in the future.
Tia: that’s right
but at this time don’t concern yourself too much
Russ: I won’t but
in the future let’s work on a program that will
allow me access to that.
Russ: okay? It's
just something to keep in mind like that.
Tia: uh-huh and I
was very honored on that comment, very honored.
Russ: genius I
believe was the word.
Tia: genius, yes.
Russ: whiz is one
level below genius.
Tia: uh-huh, I
was very, very honored. I’ve never been called a
Russ: well all
the times that I’ve heard you talking to him,
usually you're under such stress whenever he comes
by and visits that you're like AHHH.
Russ: so Korton
had a good idea about downloading information to
my computer instead of reading it right off the
Russ: I need more
Tia: I use
probably when I’m correlating all my reports and
everything, I use a gig in a day but that’s only
month ends. That is pictures, holograms, the
Russ: oh well
holograms would eat up memory faster than any kind
of GIF files I get.
then you go into three-dimensional….
Russ: and the
math involved in three-dimensional holograms is….
Russ: well math,
I mean I don’t know how you guys do the little
hologram picture discs. I mean I can't.....
Tia: oh you mean
for, oh yes the discs.
Russ: the discs,
I mean just for a little photo to do a hologram
Russ: well that
little disc must store a couple gigs of memory in
it just to use it for the hologram.
Tia: I think they
store about eight gigs each.
Russ: they’d have
because you can get six pictures on each disc.
Russ: oh you can?
Tia: uh-huh, but
it depends on the size, life-size you can only get
Russ: oh okay.
Tia: uh-huh but
little ones about desk high you can get about six
Russ: eight gigs
of memory for just for that little thing.
Russ: that is
technology that we are way sadly behind in.
Tia: well the
base on it is about that thick and that’s where
most of the storage. The disc itself is mainly a
focusing device for it to stand on.
Russ: and then is
that a laser optical system that you're using?
Tia: uh-huh yeah,
I believe so, you’d have to ask our engineer.
John: now let me
ask you this, in our tiny, three-dimensional
John: we believe
that we’ve come to the apex of technology of
Tia: I used to…..
John: but hasn’t
this been accomplished several times, hasn’t there
been past technologies that have surpassed our
Tia: I believe so
yes. There is something I do have to tell you
Johnny is that I am a third dimensional being
myself. I’m learning to be sixth dimensional. I
was a bipedal life form on my home planet which is
a third dimensional planet so when you say third
dimensional, I usually understand.
John: I mean you
understand where I’m coming from okay?.
Tia: yeah I know
exactly what you’re coming from, yes. Anyway, I’ve
been told to hop off.
Russ: bye Tia,
have fun darling.
John: see you.
Russ: see you.
(Kiri hands off
Kiri: okay, I’m
going to put on the last person dudes.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Kiri: I’ll see
(We get a rare
visit from Wing Commander Taal.)
Russ: (I stand up
and salute.) hello Taal, indeed greetings. Taal is
one of the pilot leaders if I remember right.
Russ: ahh yes.
Russ: officer. My
former officer and……
commanding officer when I get back into a ship
here once in a while.
Russ: well, how’s
life been treating you Taal, any good excitement
Taal: I have
another confirmed victory to my belt.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: good deal.
What was the circumstances surrounding this?
You’re not talking about Mark and your guy’s….
(Mark and Taal have holographic flight simulations
against each other on the base.)
Taal: no, no,
although I have challenged him.
Russ: oh good.
Taal: but he did
not accept or decline.
Taal: no, this
was a vessel that would not yield for inspection.
Russ: oh, okay.
Taal: it would
not stop for inspection. I fired a warning shot
across its bow, it carried on going. I fired a
shot at its engines to disable, it returned fire.
Russ: bad call on
Taal: so I
scanned, took down its shield, scanned again. It
continued returning fire so I destroyed.
Russ: you gave it
plenty of chances.
Taal: we are
Russ: yeah. Now
that reminds me of something Taal, I was reading
about an incident that happened back in 1954 where
a ship crashed in the deserts of……
John: New Mexico.
Russ: of New
Mexico and apparently what had been shown is that
apparently it came out of the atmosphere and
burned up and the bodies inside burned up but
knowing the shielding the capabilities of it, it
seems like it was disabled first before it made
its headlong plunge into our atmosphere.
Taal: that was
Russ: oh I know
that wasn’t you but that sounds like something
that would happen.
Taal: yes, an
engagement would……the primary function of an
engagement is to take out shielding first.
disabling the shielding, it makes the target
easier to board or destroy, preferably board for
Russ: right. Now,
wouldn’t it be a necessary standard operating
procedure to make sure that the craft
disintegrates before it hits the ground?
Taal: if the crew
is alive this would be not……sorry, I do not know
Taal: thank you
Kiri. (Speaking to Kiri.)
Russ: okay so
those crafts that were found where the crew had
died but the ship survived intact, was that just
maybe pilot error?
Russ: oh okay.
Some of these guys probably flying around here
aren’t that great of pilots probably, from some of
the other places.
Taal: no, there
is no such thing as bad pilot, bad pilot dead.
true. So when's your next mission?
Taal: I will be
escorting on Wednesday a group of two vessels….
Talk: to Sirius.
I will be returning with said group a week later.
Russ: a ski team
Russ: on route to
Taal: we are part
of honor guard.
so you can go to the races.
Taal: yes, I am
Russ: too bad.
How’s Katrina doing?
Taal: she is
going also…..we are having......
Taal: you would
say second honeymoon?
Russ: ahh, I take
it she’s one of the shuttle pilots?
Russ: ahh, lucky
Taal: yes, it is
the only chance that she has had to fly in over a
Russ: yes but
she’s…..the child’s growing well.
Russ: she doesn’t
have to be running inventories in the hangers
anymore, she should be able to fly isn't she?
Taal: she is
still ground crew, she is…..
Taal: will be for
another 6 to 12 months.
Russ: that must
just tear her up.
Taal: yes, she is
requesting to be shuttle pilot though.
good, are you taking the little one with you?
Taal: he will be
flying with me.
Russ: ahh, his
first trip to Sirius I take it?
Russ: good, good,
that will be nice. What a nice vacation, second
honeymoon with the child and everything.
fantastic. Okay, well I look forward to seeing you
whenever I can, you’ll be on the base for at least
until Sunday then?
Taal: we stop on
Sirius to rendezvous with other ski team so we go
there for big arrival display.
formation flying then?
Russ: oh neat.
Taal: have always
wanted to go to surface of Centauri Base.
Russ: hmm, I’ve
been to Centauri Base, nice place.
you’ll have a good time, lots of nice things to do
out there. And are you doing any recreational
skiing once you get there?
probably, Katrina wants to ski. She said name of
mountain and she had wistful look in her eyes.
excellent, that will be fun for you guys then. By
the way, I understand my former copilot had a bit
of a experience a while back.
Taal: yes, again.
He has accident prone. His vessel still being sent
for repair, has new one.
Russ: oh he has a
Russ: okay, I was
going to say, poor guy got jumped and everything.
Taal: glad he
made it back.
Russ: well that’s
Taal: as I said,
no such thing as bad pilot.
Russ: bad pilot.
Taal: thank you,
John: thank you.
(Kiri takes the session to its
Russ: hey Kiri.
Russ: hey baby.
Hey question for you sweetheart.
Russ: hey, when I
get to a point where I’m able to do a homepage on
my online Internet and put information that can be
accessed, I'd like to work on putting out some of
Chronicles. How much of that should be made
available, very little?
Kiri: I would
have to discuss it Korton…..yes Korton and Omal as
communications. It will be a discussion between
the three of us as I am chief librarian.
(The chief librarian of Sirius, a position earned
Russ: yes well
you know what I've printed up so far.
Russ: let us work
on that because that takes it up to the
second……what’s it called?
Kiri: the second
ascension, takes it up to the second ascension.
Russ: so just
anything before that, just go ahead and we'll work
Russ: from that
John: so with all
these heavyweights being in….
John: was it
coincidental that our channeling session was
coordinating with all the heavyweights or....?
sometimes they do do that that they will
coordinate so that there’s a channeling…..
John: they time
their schedules to fit in?
uh-huh. Especially if they’ve been in Council
meetings and they come out……hello, oh I’m sorry…
(A cat had come up against Mark and then walked
Kiri: but they will do that, they will come to
channeling sessions. In fact I think they went
directly next door to another channeling session.
Russ: oh really?
John: where was
Kiri: I can’t
Russ: no, they
can’t tell us.
Kiri: yes and
this is the first time I’ve been able to compete
that I haven’t been pregnant.
Russ: oh yeah
that’s right, it is.
yeah when we had the races here on the base, I had
just had Alex and wasn’t feeling up for it and
then we didn’t have races the following year and
then I was pregnant with Leonedies.
Russ: you sure
you weren't at the races before? Thought we had
two races, one at the old Wookie mountain and one
at the new Wookie mountain.
Kiri: I think
you’re right yeah but I didn’t compete in any of
John: have you
ever skied anywhere here on earth?
Kiri: on earth?
No I haven’t.
John: on this
Kiri: no I
haven’t. That’s right because I did compete at the
old Wookie compound because Mark and Tia were
working down in the tent doing controls and they
were total animals and what did Mark tell you to
go and do when you stuck your head inside the
about go jump off a mountain.
something like that. Uh-huh, compared to the other
races, the ones last year on Sirius and the ones
coming up this year, I mean those are very
Russ: oh very
much so, they were just warming up for the big
Kiri: we knew
that they had the competitions between Sirius and
Centauri base but we thought that we weren’t good
enough. But when Lyka last year came home with the
Russ: our girl
Kiri: yeah, GS
Russ: she’s going
yeah and she’s hot, she is hot.
Russ: kicked butt
on you all day huh?
Kiri: well if I
get as good as she is then I’ll be happy.
Russ: well if I
get as good as her then I’ll be skiing on my
circuit down here.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh
she would eat your pros down there for breakfast.
Russ: yeah well
the technology's a little bit different too.
Kiri: she doesn’t
Russ: she doesn’t
use the custom skis?
Kiri: no, she is
regular normal skis.
Russ: she’s that
Kiri: uh-huh, you
see when you get that good, it doesn’t matter
which set you're using. I mean she is that good.
Russ: how come
they don’t have a Wookie snowboarding competition?
Centauri Base…..no Sirius Base doesn’t have any
Centauri Base does but Sirius Base doesn’t.
Russ: so have a
special competition between Centauri Base and
Sirius…I mean Hades Base.
Kiri: we have to
put it before all three committees.
Russ: well since
the committees have to meet for the races
Russ: and since
you’re going to be…..
the seat is on Hades Base.
Russ: is it?
Kiri: yes, the
seat where they have the meetings and they happen
three times a year and the next one isn't due
until I believe May.
because what I’ll do is talk to my Wookie buddy….
Russ: he’s a
Kiri: yeah, we’ll
have to bring it up before the committee members
here that organize the races and everything.
Russ: but if we
start proposing it now and getting it ready
for......I mean start getting working on the
Kiri: well you
know who one of the committee members is don’t
Russ: who, our
Russ: who? You.
Kiri: go on, take
John: he did
just....just did five.
Kiri: no, not a
Kiri: Lyka can’t
because she’s an officer and is competing this
Kiri: no, Taal's
not, all the committee members are not competing.
In fact I can think of two members I know
Russ: Mark of
course and Tia.
Kiri: very well
that are committee members.
Russ: I’ll bring
it up with Mark when he gets back.
Kiri: and Tia.
Russ: and Tia.
Kiri: uh-huh and
then there’s Treeny, she’s actually a committee
Russ: I think it
would be neat, I’d love to be up there. I’d just
love to see the Wookie races.
Kiri: yeah, in
fact she’s a new member, Treeny is. And then
there’s one of the technicians that works for
Taal, he’s a committee member too.
Russ: hmm, it’s
coming down to the wire.
THE TAPE ENDS