An Ashtar Analogy- (02/27/96)
Archivist Notes: This was quite an important
session for the guest speakers who dropped by this
night and so the subjects covered were of an also
important nature. Expecting a normal channeling
session, we were pleasantly surprised by having Ashtar
and Korton spend some time answering our questions.
One other special guest speaker was Flight Commander
Taal who stopped by to say hi. As one of the pilots on
the base, we would only had few visits from him and it
should be explained that his English was not as
polished as the other speakers though it's always been
good enough to be understood clearly as to what he was
trying to say.
Omal gets this night of dignitaries started
with answering question over a wide variety of topics
but focused mainly on the future based on Tia's
predictions which have as yet to come into reality.
He's very helpful in this session providing
suggestions on how best to proceed should we find
ourselves at the collapse of society. Having a larger
view of the bigger picture than even the sixth
dimensional beings he was in charge of, he could give
us a way to plan for all eventualities he could
foresee happening as possibilities. Staying with the same theme as Omal,
Korton follows during his time channeling with
a look toward what would make the future
easier no matter the world situation and how
people can combine their various skills to
increase their chances for survival. Ashtar comes on to give us a status
report on how we're doing as a group and our
future study schedule. He also gives us an
explanation for the removal of the shield that had
been over the house here on earth and its being
used for Carrie's dwelling instead. He ends
with an interesting analogy to describe
the possible future. Kiri finishes up side
one looking back on an incident on the
base where Mark was the subject of a
meta-concert on the base when Kiri and
Tia's children ganged up on him in fun.
Karra follows her sister in answering
questions on nutrition and maintaining a healthy
diet but reminds us that bullion cubes can be used
to flavor food in a survival situation. Tia takes
a break from her imposed sabbatical to
sing a birthday song to Mark and myself
before enlightening us on some of the
details involved with the hologram discs
often mentioned in session. We learn each
uses 8 gigs of memory and how many
pictures it holds including life size
holograms. Her time channeling also gave
her the opportunity to hear Ashtar call
her a computer genius. We get a look into the personal life of
one of the Base's pilots next as Flight Commander
Taal tells of the escort he'll be flying with his
family and the Base's ski team to the Tri-Base ski
races being held on Centauri Base with a stopover
on Sirius first to pick up their ski team. We also
get to hear about his latest combat victory where
a ship of a third dimensional race refused his
request to board their ship for inspection. Kiri returns to wrap up the channeling
session and we find out that Ashtar and Korton
have gone into one of the other channeling rooms
to channel to another group. Kiri and I then
discuss the creation of this website at the time
and the upcoming ski races on Centauri Base. I try
to push for a competition between the Wookies of
Hades Base and Centauri Base as one of them is a
friend I visit when astral traveling to see Karra.
I'm informed it will have to go before a committee
where I have a bit of a pull with a couple
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(Karra takes on the role of temporary ring mistress.)
Karra: okay, well as it seems that I'm ring mistress
temporarily, let us get right down to business.......
Karra: and get things taken care of as quickly and cleanly
Karra: I’ll see you guys in a few.
(Omal comes on to lead off a night of
Omal: good evening Johnny, good evening Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: how is it functioning?
Russ: oh real well, how about yourself?
I cannot grumble.
Omal: down to business.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay, you have questions?
Omal: okay, let us start in no particular order.
fair enough, I'd like to get a spelling of your name for
access search on the online. I’ve got it O.m.a.l. but I
could be wrong.
Omal: that sounds correct, there are several different
spellings of my name but that is the most commonly used.
John: would you go ahead and give Russ the other most common
misspellings of your name just for cross-references please?
Omal: O.m.a.l., e.l.
John: thank you. I’m real curious about this huge oil
spill off the coast of Wales….
John: and the environmental impact and just……I just get this
sinking feeling…..this is kind of a combination question. I
seems like there’s going to be a lot of this kind of thing
coming and happening, am I correct?
Omal: well there is a lot going on at the moment. For
example, there is a breakdown in the peace process in
John: yes, correct.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the peace process in Ireland.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the peace process in Bosnia.
Omal: there is a breakdown the peace process in a couple of
Omal: also in other parts of the world.
John: well Cuba
just shot down two of our civilian planes and right
now it looks like we could go to war with Cuba and it’s a
very, very volatile situation. We were talking
about stage one in the past. Things seem to be
escalating and at the same time our economic situation seems
to be escalating and Clinton is going to get reelected and I
don’t know, it seems like this is happening too fast you
know what I mean?
Omal: oh it is happening at a rather rapid speed but it does
fit in very well with Tia’s predictions and the information
that she has been able to gather and correlate
and work with. She has established very fine lines that seem
to be perfect for what is occurring at this time.
John: okay but from our standpoint since we’re here….
John: I mean are we taking a correct route in what
we're doing as far as covering our asses?
Omal: yes. You are preparing very nicely, not rapidly
as one would wish, but a lot faster than one would expect
John: should we speed things up or am I just being
Omal: it is understandable for you to be apprehensive and
knowing what is going to happen and seeing these events
occurring is……it is better to be prepared then not be
prepared. It is your own choice at which speed you progress.
John: thank you.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Russ: now I want to go a little bit of
online questions real quick.
Omal: I would save that for a computer expert.
Russ: magic and us and what’s going on with you, where does
come into the picture and where are we going with it?
Omal: define magic, I have approximately a dozen different
references that I can think of.
Russ: well for example, Mark’s work with Diana
Omal: uh-huh, who?
Omal: Diana and who?
Russ: I thought it was Kern, I could be wrong.
Omal: I believe the K should be dropped and supplemented with an
Russ: oh Herne,
a different teacher. Diane and Herne and it seems like we're
blending past and futures to come up with a sort of
amalgamation of the present.
Omal: yes, often the future and the present do have a
blending of the past. For example, we have the present with
the blending of very ancient equipment using very modern
equipment which is switched on am I correct?
Russ: double checking and we are rocking and rolling.
Omal: good, so you have both past and present being used for
John: you betcha and we should use all of our technology to
our mutual advantage, am I correct?
Omal: certainly, certainly.
John: both ancient and recent technology should be combined....
Omal: very much so.....
John: that’s why we're here.
Omal: that is correct.
John: thank you, I knew that.
Russ: right, so how do we bring in Diana into our
most advantageous state from this point?
Omal: Mark is very protective over that is he not?
Omal: it would be best to discuss it with him in person.
Omal: I’m sure that with a little bit of prodding he may
open up but there again it is hard to say, he seems to have
some heavy natural barriers that we have difficultly
penetrating. They seem to be deeply
ingrained and very active when pushed on that particular
Russ: well I assume that he’s got to have an agenda on that
Russ: okay. One of the things that I wanted to talk to you
about that I'll
also be talking to Kiri about is....and Tia, channeling
Russ: in the future. I don’t know if it’s been done or if
it’s been going on now but I’m wondering if some point in
the future if it hasn’t been done, if we could do something
shaking you might say.
Omal: oh you mean direct access and intervention by Tia from
our dimension to your dimension.
Russ: right well I mean well actually this would be
Kiri in conjunction with Tia channeling from my computer at
work to other people who are online who are
interested in learning more….
Omal: I think Kiri and Tia would have to get used to your
keyboard before they would be able to channel directly.
John: excuse me.
John: is there a security risk with Russ attempting such a
Omal: yes and no, yes in the fact that it would be
a reference point but for us it would be minimal, for
you it would be higher risk than for us.
John: okay, now with the risks involved.....
I mean there's
a fine line and in my mind I want to use caution,
Omal: sometimes caution can be not very useful. For
example, take a historic event where caution was used and
was very costly. I believe Anzio
where your American forces landed and sat on the beach for
approximately a week amassing a lot of equipment and were
promptly chewed to pieces when they tried to go
inland into Italy.
John: oh okay, excuse me, so we should be balls the walls
and just do it?
John: just everything, just balls the walls or what?
Omal: I wouldn't say going flat out, I would say that
caution is necessary but you can also be working quickly and
cautious at the same time. It depends on the situation that
you’re in at a particular time. One month or one week could
be necessary to be cautious and the following week it could
be necessary to be as quick as possible to amass as much
equipment as possible so it is necessary to use both and
analyze each situation carefully before advancing into it.
Russ: so the key is to weigh the risks.
Russ: okay, hmm.
John: thank you, it was very, very much what I wanted to
Russ: now when I did some research online about
Omal: yes, it is old information.
Russ: I wasn’t sure, there wasn’t any dates on this thing.
Omal: no it is rehashes and discussions on what was.
Unfortunately the Sedona area is starting to be corrupted. There
is people moving in that are no longer interested in the
goodness and the exchange of information, they are more
interested in what’s in it for me.
Omal: I believe Johnny noticed that before he left that
there was an increase in psychic readings, people that were
there to make money for themselves, selling crystals for
personal gain, no longer the friendly camaraderie of the
area that there once was. When you were there Russ and when we
used to channel a lot from there….
Omal: the group in Sedona that was there is breaking up and
is more self-centered with how can I do this, how can I do
that? Not with asking questions on advancement, they're
more concerned with how to deal with matters of a personal
nature which I find myself very irritating at times but
have to sit down and hold someone’s hand to bring them
through a trivial crisis.
John: can ask you about the fragment of truth that was left
in Sedona before I left….
Omal: uh-huh, a very small fragment that is finding
it harder to get hold of…..
John: they’re leaving, everyone’s leaving.
Omal: that is because it is breaking down. They will tell
you that it has become corrupted with I believe you would
call money grabbers?
John: oh yeah but that was happening long before I left and
while I was leaving and that was one of the biggest reasons
why I'm leaving, why I left.
Omal: it is still growing and the people that are looking
for the truth are moving away, they are searchers as was the
young lady visiting from the continent below who is a
searcher and they go where they think it is advantageous for
them to learn.
John: okay now Pete and Gina who are very close to me, very
much spiritually in tune….
Omal: uh-huh, when are they arriving?
John: they'll be coming through here and they’re going to
Idaho and they really feel that their sanctuary is in Idaho. How do
you feel about that, about strategic placement and whether
I'm here in Tahoe or in Idaho or in my camp in New York or
my place in Arizona?
Omal: every possibility must be analyzed and looked at. It
may be necessary to retreat to Arizona but in a very devious
sort of way.
Omal: by going the most indirect route may be the most
of going directly to Arizona, it may be advantageous to go
to New York and then backtrack. There are things in New York
that are easier to get at then there are in Arizona. So it
would be advantageous to do a backtrack or you may find it
easier to go to Idaho before retreating to Arizona or vice
versa, Arizona before retreating to the east.
John: yes I see.
Omal: so you have to have more than one line of escape
planned or it may be necessary to drag people from those places,
those connections to a central point.
John: and out of all the places I've mentioned, can you give
me any insight which would be a good central point?
Idaho has its advantages of being a good central rendezvous
all parties from all parts of the country. Arizona has its
advantages because of the cabins located in that area. New
York has its advantages because it is a easy access sea
point to retreat even further if necessary and Lake
Tahoe is a natural fortress.
John: so we’ve pretty much covered the United States and
unfortunately yes, everything has its advantages.
John: lovely vague you know what I mean where
I guess it’s just up to me where…..
Omal: yes, that is what I’m saying….
John: where I go and what I do.
Omal: everything has its advantages and each situation has a
particular area which is advantageous to retreat to. If you
stay in the same location, that in itself may be
advantageous to have an area to retreat back to. Let’s say
for example you decide to retreat to your family….
Omal: you arrive there....
yes okay, excuse me.
Omal: the situation in the East is very, very bad. Rioting
on a daily basis, mass migration out of the cities into the
countryside, defending your property being very costly in
not only munitions but in life, you decide to retreat away
from that area, cutting your losses and retreating to your
friends in Idaho.
hard to imagine they'd be but as a hypothetical
situation, anything could happen.
John: so we would retreat hypothetically from….
Omal: from one place to another. When you plan a
battle, you have to plan for every eventuality. You have to
plan for how far you wish to advance, if the advance is
going to be easy or hard or even if you have to retreat, you
have to plan every possible avenue. If you do not consider
the idea of retreat, then you are cutting off an option that
may save your lives.
Omal: so it is necessary to plan for everything. You have to
plan for a very, very wide area. The plans that you make
with your family are very good, you must keep on with
those but you must also plan for the worst. If you do not
plan for the worse, then you are cutting off a very useful
learning tool and something that may be needed. When you
plan for the worst, you have to look at the worst-case
scenario and when you look at the worst-case scenario, make
it even worse. You think of everything that
can go wrong and I do mean everything, even earthquakes,
even volcanic activity, even nuclear strike. So it is
necessary to plan for everything accordingly. Okay, next
Russ: okay, whether you can answer this or not I’m not sure.
Ashtar’s visit, that was regarding us or
have any effect on us?
Omal: it has no effect whatsoever but it would be useful to
ask him himself.
Russ: is he here?
Russ: fair enough.
Omal: okay, last question from each of you, Johnny?
move to Lake Tahoe has been very good for me
and I’m not sure to the extent of my sabbatical or training
with Mark and Russ, I’m not sure how far this is going to
go. I don’t know if they’re going to travel with me back
East or if we’re going to be here but I’m assuming
I’m on the right path.
Omal: yes, you are on a path of learning and preparation.
Everything even if it is really bad does serve the function
of being a learning lesson. As I’ve stated in the past, it
is not something to relish, it is something to live through
and to be able to pass on the knowledge that you have
learned. The pioneers of your country suffered greatly but
yet out of that suffering came a country with infinite
possibilities, not all good and not all bad but there is
infinite possibilities where it could have gone and infinite
possibilities of where it has gone so the struggle is
necessary for the advancement of your race. I do not say
struggle in the sake of struggle for itself but if
it comes, then it must be dealt with and in turn
those that survive do improve the country. Okay Russ?
Russ: the scenario that you painted would make an excellent
computer game called "Collapse" in which America collapses
financially and you must go to various places in the country
to pick up certain items that you can’t get other places to
take them back to certain places to make your refuge. I might
have to get together with someone here and work on that,
what do you think?
Omal: if you wish.
Russ: good idea.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: thank you, you’re welcome.
John: thank you so much.
Omal: live long, prosper and I’ll see you guys later.
John: see you around bub.
makes a quick transition between speakers.)
John: good session.
Karra: okay, next person.
John: okay and Mark has been brutal ill. In fact I've
been worried about him and his voice is still raspy.
(Korton shares his extensive computer knowledge
Korton: greetings of felicitations. Greetings Russ,
greetings Johnny, let us get down to business.
John: is this Ashtar we are addressing?
Russ: good afternoon Korton.
Korton: good afternoon.
John: long time no see.
Korton: yes, it is a very long time. Okay, let us attend to
the situation at hand. Let me start by saying that
the way you are proceeding at a cautious but yet steady rate
is very advantageous for the advancement of the situations
that are possible in the near future. The occurrences that
have been happening are part of the projections by our
analysts. Okay now, questions.
Russ: okay, you're not the computer expert Omal was
talking about are you?
Korton: yes I am.
Russ: you are, good.
Korton: antique computers as you know is my
Russ: of course, I wasn’t sure if he meant you or Tia. Now
when we’re talking about the preparations, my
getting online, working with computers as part of those
Russ: okay, I’m learning as I go to make this a
speedier process. How can I use it more to my
advantage with the online service?
Korton: okay what you do is download, you upgrade your
system and download.
Russ: add more memory?
Korton: yes, it is very advantageous when you are dealing
with computers to download information into your computer,
you read it then discard it.....
Russ: oh okay.
Korton: or print it up. I personally when I am working my
antiques, I will print up old information and I will then read the
information in the soft form. I understand that you
are charged for the time that you are on the computer.
Korton: so it is quicker to download information and then
read it at your convenience when you’re not being charged.
Russ: oh okay, that is a much better idea.
a couple gigs of memory.
Russ: okay, Johnny?
John: I’m totally and completely computer ignorant….
John: but I have my distinct advantages with our preparation
for what’s happening.
John: I understand the use of computers and how it can be
helpful but for me I'm just spontaneous, no computers. I
have a hard time spelling Apple correctly but that’s not
to my disadvantage is it?
Korton: no it is not. Some people find computers
John: yes I do.
Korton: it is a tool that is not for them if you know what I
mean, it is more of a hindrance in the learning ability for
them. It is like a scribe of the past and the master
tradesman. One cannot exist without the other. For example,
Russ may be computer literate but there again can he gut,
skin and butcher an animal?
John: no he
Korton: so therefore both of you complement each other very
John: okay so I’m…..with me being computer illiterate…..
Korton: you use it as a trade. You get somebody like
is computer literate and you say, "okay, I need
information, this is what I want. In return, I will
cook your dinner for you."
John: all right.
Korton: so it is a trade that is very useful. After all,
most computer people do not have time to sit down and cook
themselves a dinner, they’re more interested in having a
quick snack and working with their computer. It is
like some of our engineers here that they’d sooner work on
their equipment designing things then go home and have a
John: okay, all right.
Korton: but if you were in return for getting
information for trade.
John: are you the one to ask about as far as the food and
Korton: that would be Karra.
John: okay, I thought so. Do you have insight
Korton: high-protein is sometimes the way to go.
High-protein in small qualities will keep you on your feet
quicker and longer then low-protein in mass quantity or
high-protein in high quantity. I believe you would say
on the move.
John: okay and with my particular metabolism, I need to eat
on a regular basis otherwise I’ll be…..I would….I can have a
problem with my blood sugar.
John: but I do have incredible stamina.
Korton: well it is handy to have a piece of bread that it
has sugars which release in the system very quickly and
gives you the energy for maneuvering.
I know if I eat a piece of bread or some crackers
when I’m lightheaded or feeling that my sugar being low, is
better than eating a candy bar or drinking some soda pop.
Korton: that is too high in sugar content.
Korton: it will give you a sugar rush.
John: I have a problem with that with working the way I do……
John: and just being able to live with the sugar
rush and the caffeine….
Korton: yes it does lead to some interesting effects from
what I have seen. Okay, last question from each of you for
Russ: okay, what’s your email address?
Korton: it is dot com, I don’t think you would be able to
access it. You need a computer….a satellite up link.
Russ: oh. (Chuckles.)
Korton: a direct satellite up link.
Russ: it is Korton.com.
Korton: not Korton.
John: how do you spell your name?
there any other spellings?
Korton: again yes there are. Okay, thank you.
Russ: thank you Korton.
(Karra returns to make the hand-off.)
Karra: okay, next person.
Russ: hi Karra, it sounds much better.
I was told not to hurry.
John: are you in a hurry?
Russ: she was earlier.
John: you in a hurry now?
Russ: no, she’s gone.
John: she’s gone
Russ: she’s gone.
(Ashtar honors us with a visit.)
Ashtar: greetings of felicitations. Okay, let us get down to
business quickly and precisely as I do have depart. First of
all, I would like to congratulate you on your equipment that
you have achieved for yourselves, this is very good and very
promising. Secondly I would like to thank our
computer genius who unfortunately needs a break from her
work but it is necessary for her well-being to achieve a
constant high standard of work that she has been doing. I
would like to thank Mrs. Crocker as she wishes to be called
at this time for a very high standard of work and I thought
it would be necessary to thank her in front of everybody.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Ashtar: okay, now let me continue. With what is occurring
now at this time, it is necessary to keep a very close eye
for key events that will occur. I am not allowed by my
own directives to tell you what those events are but you
will know them when they occur. It is necessary to watch out
for them. Next I would like to move on a little bit and
discuss the technical growth that will be necessary to
achieve. A while back it was requested by Russ to continue
studies on meta-concert and shielding, at
that time it was denied. Again it will be denied for a
little while longer but in the near future you will be
dealing with growth in meta-concert and the next stage in
shielding. Also what will be covered in the shielding is the
earlier stages for a clearer clarification and better
explanation for those that do not have adequate shielding. Shielding
tests will occur, randomly. Next, I would like to move on
again to shielding of your abode and the reasons for its
dismantling and uses. As you were well aware, a young
lady that you know needed shielding. The shielding that is
around her current habitation is a variation on what was
around yours however, yours had a filler, hers does not. It
has another substance which is a reflective substance which
is more of a dampening field of the energy of the house.
Again it has been keyed to Tia’s access code and to Carrie’s
access code. I believe Mike is experimenting with astral
travel even though it is subconscious it has
been keyed to him. It is unusual to have a
shield keyed to so many different variables so she has a
variable, modulating shielding system.
Ashtar: okay, questions.
Russ: okay, with the turmoil coming up, how would be the
best way to learn to expand consciously through this?
Russ: ahhh okay, Johnny?
John: is it advisable, is it safe to share our knowledge
that we get through you and the knowledge we gain ourselves?
I mean we’re growing and learning at such a fast pace here.
Ashtar: to the necessary few that have the right
aptitude, yes. The lady from the southern, inverted
continent is very good point to use to spread knowledge to
different parts of the world. Also something that should be
covered is the preparation for a gene pool.
Ashtar: that will be dealt with by our resident
geneticist at his convenience. (Kornas)
Ashtar: next question.
Russ: okay, the information that I’m gathering from the
online services that are associated with you, is this you
actually or a part of….
Ashtar: some of it is me, some is attributed to me but is
Ashtar: next question please.
Russ: okay, what is the photon belt that we have got
online is attributed to you?
Ashtar: that is attributed to me, it is not me.
Ashtar: is a reference I’m not sure of.
it confused me too.
Ashtar: next question Johnny.
John: the Hubble telescope, I understand it has photographs
some of your reconnaissance vehicles or some of your
John: is it true, has the Hubble telescope...?
Ashtar: when you say you, you mean extraterrestrials? That
is correct, there have been little technical glitches that
are perceived as technical glitches that are
extraterrestrial. As for us, if it is accidental, then it
needs to be addressed and will not happen again.
John: okay and please don’t misunderstand my use of saying
you and using that term to….
Ashtar: I understand.
John: it was not an insult.
Ashtar: okay last question Russ?
Russ: okay, speaking on the same terms Johnny was, that
satellite that broke through the tether from the space
Ashtar: that was not us.
Russ: that wasn't you, okay thank you.
John: overall, on our third dimensional planet here, things
are really shaky and seem to be very, very volatile. Oh God,
what is my question? Where do we go from here?
Ashtar: to answer your question I will give you an analogy.
Things always appear worse before sunrise which means that
the situation that is coming will be preceded with
the rising of the sun if you understand what I mean.
John: yes, I'm going to weather it, I will survive
it, thank you so much.
Ashtar: thank you.
Russ: thank you Ashtar.
(Kiri makes it to chat to take over as
Kiri: yo, I finally arrived.
John: where the heck you been?
Kiri: I’ve been in a meeting.
Russ: that’s a good excuse.
Kiri: yes, that is a good excuse. I’ve been in a meeting
with the crèche parents for Leonedies.
John: was he misbehaving?
Kiri: no actually, he’s been very well behaved, he’s
been as they put it a typical super operant. They’re both
super operants and they’re expecting.
Russ: oh congratulations to them.
John: so when he’s been behaving himself, you mean he eats
the hamsters whole and spits their tails out? (Johnny is confusing the son
of Kiri with the daughters of Tia who are of two
totally separate races.)
Kiri: no, he doesn’t eat hamsters, he’s a typical Sirian. He
loves fish, can't hold it down very well at the moment
because he’s too young. He behaves himself. He is a as they
put it, a good child which made me laugh because they
don’t see him at home and they said that they can imagine as
they're expecting their second child.
their first one was a super operant also?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh, it’s normally the way that it happens.
John: Mark was telling me about Leonedies putting him in a
bubble and thinking it was a big joke and Mark
Kiri: I think that was something that I thought was best not
up in the meeting, it was like a parents meeting?
kind of thing?
John: yeah, yeah, is it okay with me bringing it up now?
Kiri: oh yeah, I think it was funny actually looking back on
it. At the time it was…..
John: well I mean I’m picturing Mark in my mind in this
bubble trying to get out and this small super child just….
he wasn’t the only person involved in it.
John: I know, I know.....
was in a mete-concert.
Russ: he was in meta-concert with some other
Kiri: uh-huh, yes the Cubs.
John: yes but they blew Mark away temporarily at least.
Kiri: well five individuals of the same mental strength as
an adult joined together will overpower an adult.
John: yes, Mark found that out.
John: did you find it amusing?
John: did you know what was going on when the kids were
doing that to him?
Kiri: not originally no, when I got there I assessed the
situation and I just disrupted the meta-concert. It’s pretty
easy to do actually.
John: why can’t Mark do that?
Kiri: because he’s not a powerful coercer like I am.
John: is he a powerful coercer in the third dimension?
Kiri: he’s got quite a lot of coercive ability but
compared to myself, he is limited.
Kiri, I look forward to our work here coming up with
Russ: and we get to a point where I can maintain
shielding on a constant level without having to keep
all the time such as when like when Ashtar is in town.
Kiri: and especially when you’re up against me.
John: and I’m assuming the testing will involve me also?
Kiri: uh-huh but it will be random, very random and it will
come from sources that you wouldn’t even know.
John: okay and I’m expecting you’ll be involved more
John: then Ashtar is. I mean would he test me?
Kiri: oh, not personally until it came to I think you would
say examination time.
Russ: like this time I could feel him testing my shields but
unfortunately my shielding needs more work because I can’t
maintain it at a strong enough level for the entire
coming on and off.
John: well it sent shivers up and down my spine.
well he was just giving you a little, minor probe.
with me he was a bit more....of
John: serious with you?
Kiri: put it this way, if he was to probe you at his normal
level for operants up here, you would go AHHHHH and
your head with boil and I don’t mean that a negative way, I
John: my head would boil?
Kiri: well that’s what it would feel like.
Russ: yeah I got a headache from it.
John: it wouldn’t literally boil would it?
Kiri: no but that’s what it would feel like.
SIDE ONE ENDS
he's going to try, if not, he will send his
deputies or he will make a deputy. But for shielding…..
John: is that anyone I’ve met?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh, well he will decide at the time. Anyway
I’ve got to…..
John: and whom might that be?
Kiri: it could be myself, he could ask Korton to sit in
for him, he could send another Council member, he could
send anybody or ask anybody that he wishes. After all, as
he once said, he is the base commander.
John: and Ashtar, is he…..? He seemed to be pleased with
Kiri: I thought so, uh-huh.
Russ: pretty good with the ski races darling.
Kiri: oh thank you yes, I leave on Wednesday of next week
so I will be briefly at the next channeling session so we
will deal with what happens then. I believe it might have
to be an early channeling session as well like 7:30,
otherwise I’m going to miss it.
John: but the rest of the gang will be there right?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh.
John: if you can’t make it?
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, I’m going to step aside and put on the
next person as I am supposed to be ring mistress and I
would like to thank my elder for sitting in for me.
(Karra returns to channel as
Russ: hi darling.
Karra: I get to answer questions.
John: I've been wondering about coercion?
Russ: you have to ask Kiri for that.
John: yeah I know, I know but I’ve been wanted to ask her
Russ: well, Omal did mention something about you and
nutrition you could ask Karra.
Karra: oh yes, okay nutrition.
John: yes and also with….okay I’ve got my knowledge and no
computer background, you listen in to the meeting and
John: okay so you already know what's been discussed….
John: this evening.
Karra: what you can do is as Omal suggested, make a trade.
You want information on nutritional levels, talk to my my
dear life mate to ask him to find nutritional supplements
or a protein that could be used cheaply that gives a
high-protein in return. I can give you suggestions.....
John: okay no, I maybe misstated the question okay? I know
about proteins and diets and recipes and different
John: now I’m talking about buying survival food, lentils
and beans and coming up with good, well-balanced
nutritional vegetarian diets which us carnivores can
incorporate food into. And even Russell gets carnivorous
you know what I mean where he won’t eat a pig but he’ll
eat a chicken.
John: you know what I mean? And….
Karra: well there is a supplement that you can add that
will fool you into thinking that it is beef, lamb,
John: okay, I have no problem with a vegetarian diet.
John: what I’m concerned with is a well-balanced
nutrition, economics and availability on our planet in
this third dimensional space. Rice, beans….
Karra: there are many possibilities…..yes, rice, beans,
nuts, never forget nuts.
John: nuts are very important.
Russ: what supplement are you talking about Karra?
Karra: I believe you call them bullion?
Russ: called what?
Karra: extract cubes.
Russ: oh bullion.
John: yeah but you know what’s in bullion? You know what’s
actually in that?
Karra: well there’s a lot of chemicals I'm aware of,
monosodium glutamate being one of them.
John: yes it’s great stuff, I added MSG. But I mean I’m
familiar with using both chicken and beef bouillon in my
gravies and sauces. I mean if you make a chicken stock
from scratch, you take the chicken juice and if you don’t
add some chicken bouillon to it, you don’t get the full
Karra: uh-huh, yeah.
Karra: I do not eat any meat myself personally, I eat fish
only but that is a racial thing for us.
John: okay now with getting fish and using dried fish and
John: okay? I mean it’s a good viable source of protein,
there’s no doubt about it.
Karra: uh-huh, it is very enjoyable.....
Russ: to each their own.
Karra: to eat all different types of fish. Anyway, I am
hogging a lot of time and we have a guest speaker that has
just been added.
John: you don't understand Russ, I'm trying to find good
fish to eat.
(Kiri transfers speakers once more.)
Kiri: you have a quick question for me don’t you?
Kiri: okay, ask away quickly.
John: I forgot what it was, you guys been whipping around
Kiri: write it down and ask me next week. Write it down,
stick it in front of the clock so you can ask me next
week. I better put on the next person, okay.
Russ: bye Kiri.
(Tia takes a break from
her sabbatical to channel.)
(Tia says high in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: you're the guest speaker?
Tia: no I’m not a speaker, they're going to put the guest
speaker on last of all.
Russ: that’s quite a guest.
Tia: I feel quite important at the moment, I’ve never been
complemented like that before.
Russ: on tape too.
Tia: yes. I feel very, very, very, very honored.
John: well you should be, you’ve been very helpful.
Russ: I don't know, I thought taking you from work would
be a worse idea than leaving you on work.
Russ: because taking you from work…
Tia: well, it is a crucial time. Anyway, I’ve got
something to say quickly.
Tia: (Sings the birthday song for Mark and myself who both
have birthdays on this day.)
Russ: thank you sweetheart.
Tia: and Mark.
Russ: and Mark of course.
Tia: got any questions for me?
Russ: oh you want questions now?
Russ: oh okay, go ahead Johnny.
John: (Laughs) oh yeah thanks.....got me spinning. Okay,
we’ve been talking a lot and focusing on changing world
Tia: I can't answer those questions at the moment.
John: yes, well alright let me lead up to this.
John: I'll make it as brief as possible. Okay and as far
as economics and just nutrition and the basic bottom line.
John: I've been told we’re approaching the situation
John: and to keep on doing what we’re doing. As far as……I
mean I don’t know whether to ask about nutrition or
Tia: well I was a priestess when I was younger, bet you
didn’t know that.
John: I didn’t know.
John: what’s your assessment of this whole third
dimensional thing we’re trying to do and.....?
Tia: I think you’re going the right way. I
really.......because I’m on sabbatical and I’m not allowed
to answer questions of a political or nature on what I
normally do. I miss that but they think I need a rest.
John: yeah well it’s understandable but you do understand
where it put me in a funny position where I was going to
ask you a heavy question and now......
Tia: and now you're not allowed to and it is frustrating.
I would love to answer any question but I’m not allowed to
because I’m not supposed to think about things too…...
Russ: what about with astral travel?
Tia: yeah sure.
Russ: oh great.
Russ: now, with the traveling up to see Karra for me….
Russ: I was really in a lot of trouble trying to stay
focused and not letting my mind just keep wandering.
Tia: well you aren’t helping doing burning the candle at
both ends again.
Russ: yeah but I still want to focus anyway. You see with
what’s coming up in the future all right? I’ve got to be
able to do a lot more than I’m doing now and still have
access to my astral form.
Tia: I wouldn’t worry about it at the moment because you
are working hard. I wouldn’t condemn yourself to what you
would call purgatory because you can’t focus at this time.
Russ: but still, it’s something I have to learn in the
Tia: that’s right but at this time don’t concern yourself
too much with it.
Russ: I won’t but in the future let’s work on a program
that will allow me access to that.
Russ: okay? It's just something to keep in mind like that.
Tia: uh-huh and I was very honored on that comment, very
honored. Computer whiz.
Russ: genius I believe was the word.
Tia: genius, yes.
Russ: whiz is one level below genius.
Tia: uh-huh, I was very, very honored. I’ve never been
called a genius.
Russ: well all the times that I’ve heard you talking to
him, usually you're under such stress whenever he comes by
and visits that you're like AHHH.
Russ: so Korton had a good idea about downloading
information to my computer instead of reading it right off
Russ: I need more memory.
Tia: I use probably when I’m correlating all my reports
and everything, I use a gig in a day but that’s only month
ends. That is pictures, holograms, the works.
Russ: oh holograms would eat up memory faster than any
kind of GIF files I get.
Russ: because then you go into three-dimensional….
Tia: that’s right.
Russ: and the math involved in three-dimensional holograms
Tia: is incredible.
Russ: well math, I mean I don’t know how you guys do the
little hologram picture discs. I mean I can't.....
Tia: oh you mean for, oh yes the discs.
Russ: the discs, I mean just for a little photo to do a
Russ: well that little desk must store a couple gigs of
memory in it just to use it for the hologram.
Tia: I think they store about eight gigs each.
Russ: they’d have to.
Tia: uh-huh, because you can get six pictures on each
Russ: oh you can?
Tia: uh-huh, but it depends on the size, life-size you can
only get two.
Russ: oh okay.
Tia: uh-huh but little ones about desk high you can get
about six on there.
Russ: eight gigs of memory for just for that little thing.
Russ: that is technology that we are way sadly behind in.
Tia: well the base on it is about that thick and that’s
where most of the storage. The disc itself is mainly a
focusing device for it to stand on.
Russ: and then is that a laser optical system that you're
Tia: uh-huh yeah, I believe so, you’d have to ask our
Russ: the technical expert.
John: now let me ask you this, in our tiny,
John: we believe that we’ve come to the apex of technology
Tia: I used to…..
John: but hasn’t this been accomplished several times,
hasn’t there been past technologies that have surpassed
our present technology?
Tia: I believe so yes. There is something I do have to
tell you Johnny is that I am a third dimensional being
myself. I’m learning to be sixth dimensional. I was a
bipedal life form on my home planet which is a third
dimensional planet so when you say third dimensional, I
John: I mean you understand where I’m coming from okay?.
Tia: yeah I know exactly what you’re coming from, yes.
Anyway, I’ve been told to hop off.
Russ: bye Tia, have fun darling.
John: see you.
Russ: see you.
(Kiri hands off to Taal.)
Kiri: okay, I’m going to put on the last person dudes.
Russ: okay dudette.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Kiri: I’ll see shortly.
(We get a rare visit from Flight Commander Taal.)
Russ: (I stand up and salute.) hello Taal, indeed
greetings. Taal is one of the pilot leaders if I remember
Russ: ahh yes.
Russ: officer. My former officer and……
Russ: still commanding officer when I get back into a ship
here once in a while.
Russ: well, how’s life been treating you Taal, any good
Taal: I have another confirmed victory to my belt.
Russ: hey, congratulations.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: good deal. What was the circumstances surrounding
this? You’re not talking about Mark and your guy’s….(Mark
and Taal have holographic flight simulations against each
other on the base.)
Taal: no, no, although I have challenged him.
Russ: oh good.
Taal: but he did not accept or decline.
Taal: no, this was a vessel that would not yield for
Russ: oh, okay.
Taal: it would not stop for inspection. I fired a warning
shot across its bow, it carried on going. I fired a shot
at its engines to disable, it returned fire.
Russ: bad call on his part.
Taal: so I scanned, took down its shield, scanned again.
It continued returning fire so I destroyed.
Russ: you gave it plenty of chances.
Taal: we are meant to.
Russ: yeah. Now that reminds me of something Taal, I was
reading about an incident that happened back in 1954 where
a ship crashed in the deserts of……
John: New Mexico.
Russ: of New Mexico and apparently what had been shown is
that apparently it came out of the atmosphere and burned
up and the bodies inside burned up but knowing the
shielding the capabilities of it, it seems like it was
disabled first before it made its headlong plunge into our
Taal: that was not me.
Russ: oh I know that wasn’t you but that sounds like
something that would happen.
Taal: yes, an engagement would……the primary function of an
engagement is to take out shielding first.
Russ: uh-huh, okay.
Taal: by disabling the shielding, it makes the target
easier to board or destroy, preferably board for
Russ: right. Now, wouldn’t it be a necessary standard
operating procedure to make sure that the craft
disintegrates before it hits the ground?
Taal: if the crew is alive this would be not…….sorry, I do
not know the word…….practical…..
Russ: practical right.
Taal: thank you Kiri. (Speaking to Kiri.)
Russ: okay so those crafts that were found where the crew
had died but the ship survived intact, was that just maybe
Taal: possibly yes.
Russ: oh okay. Some of these guys probably flying around
here aren’t that great of pilots probably, from some of
the other places.
Taal: no, there is no such thing as bad pilot, bad pilot
Russ: that’s true. So when's your next mission?
Taal: I will be escorting on Wednesday a group of two
Talk: to Sirius. I will be returning with said group a
Russ: a ski team I believe.
Russ: on route to the skiing.
Taal: we are part of honor guard.
Russ: excellent, so you can go to the races.
Taal: yes, I am not competing.
Russ: too bad. How’s Katrina doing?
Taal: she is going also….we are having......
Taal: you would say second honeymoon?
Russ: ahh, I take it she’s one of the shuttle pilots?
Russ: ahh, lucky guess.
Taal: yes, it's the only chance that she has had to fly in
over a year.
Russ: yes but she’s…..the child’s growing well.
Russ: she doesn’t have to be running inventories in the
hangers anymore, she should be able to fly isn't she?
Taal: she is still ground crew, she is…..
Taal: will be for another 6 to 12 months.
Russ: that must just tear her up.
Taal: yes, she is requesting to be shuttle pilot though.
Russ: that’s good, are you taking the little one with you?
Russ: excellent, good.
Taal: he will be flying with me.
Russ: ahh, his first trip to Sirius I take it?
Russ: good, good, that will be nice. What a nice vacation,
second honeymoon with a child and everything.
Russ: oh fantastic. Okay, well I look forward to seeing
you whenever I can, you’ll be on the base for at least
until Sunday then?
Taal: until Wednesday.
Russ: Wednesday, that’s right.
Taal: we stop on Sirius to rendezvous with other ski team
so we go there for big arrival display.
Russ: umm, formation flying then?
Russ: oh neat.
Taal: have always wanted to go to surface of Centauri
Russ: hmm, I’ve been to Centauri Base, nice place.
Taal: looking forward.
Russ: yeah, you’ll have a good time, lots of nice things
to do out there. And are you doing any recreational skiing
once you get there?
Taal: yes, probably, Katrina wants to ski. She said name
of mountain and she had wistful look in her eyes.
Russ: well excellent, that will be fun for you guys then.
By the way, I understand my former copilot had a bit of a
experience a while back.
Taal: yes, again. He has accident prone. His vessel still
being sent for repair, has new one.
Russ: oh he has a new one?
Russ: okay, I was going to say, poor guy got jumped and
Taal: glad he made it back.
Russ: well that’s good.
Taal: as I said, no such thing as bad pilot.
Russ: bad pilot.
Taal: thank you, dismissed.
Russ: farewell Taal.
John: thank you.
(Kiri takes the session to its
Russ: hey Kiri.
Russ: hey baby. Hey question for you sweetheart.
Russ: hey, when I get to a point where I’m able to do a
homepage on my online Internet and put information that
can be accessed, I'd like to work on putting out some of
Chronicles. How much of that should be made
available, very little?
Kiri: I would have to discuss it Korton….yes Korton and
Omal as communications. It will be a discussion between
the three of us as I am chief librarian. (The chief
librarian of Sirius, a position earned by birthright.)
Russ: yes well you know what I've printed up so far.
Russ: let us work on that because that takes it up to the
second……what’s it called?
Kiri: the second ascension.
Russ: second ascension, takes it up to the second
Russ: so just anything before that, just go ahead and
we'll work on editing….
Russ: from that point on.
John: so with all these heavyweights being in….
John: was it coincidental that our channeling session was
coordinating with all the heavyweights or....?
Kiri: no, sometimes they do do that that they will
coordinate so that there’s a channeling…..
John: they time their schedules to fit in?
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. Especially if they’ve been in Council
meetings and they come out……hello, oh I’m sorry…(A cat had
come up against Mark and then walked away)........but they
will do that, they will come to channeling sessions. In
fact I think they went directly next door to another
Russ: oh really?
John: where was that from?
Kiri: I can’t tell you.
Russ: no, they can’t tell us.
Kiri: yes and this is the first time I’ve been able to
compete that I haven’t been pregnant.
Russ: oh yeah that’s right, it is.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah when we had the races here on the base,
I had just had Alex and wasn’t feeling up for it and then
we didn’t have races the following year and then I was
pregnant with Leonedies.
Russ: you sure you weren't at the races before? Thought we
had two races, one at the old Wookie mountain and one at
the new Wookie mountain.
Kiri: I think you’re right yeah but I didn’t compete in
any of them.
John: have you ever skied anywhere here on earth?
Kiri: on earth? No I haven’t.
John: on this planet?
Kiri: no I haven’t. That’s right because I did compete at
the old Wookie compound because Mark and Tia were working
down in the tent doing controls and they were total
animals and what did Mark tell you to go and do when you
stuck your head inside the tent?
Russ: something about go jump off a mountain.
Kiri: yeah, something like that. Uh-huh, compared to the
other races, the ones last year on Sirius and the ones
coming up this year, I mean those are very unprofessional.
Russ: oh very much so, they were just warming up for the
Kiri: we knew that they had the competitions between
Sirius and Centauri base but we thought that we weren’t
good enough. But when Lyka last year came home with the
Russ: our girl Lyka.
Kiri: yeah, GS winner.
Russ: she’s going again.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah and she’s hot, she is hot.
Russ: kicked butt on you all day huh?
Kiri: well if I get as good as she is then I’ll be happy.
Russ: well if I get as good as her then I’ll be skiing on
my circuit down here.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh she would eat your pros down there for
Russ: yeah well the technology's a little bit different
Kiri: she doesn’t use….
Russ: she doesn’t use the custom skis?
Kiri: no, she is regular normal skis.
Russ: she’s that good?
Kiri: uh-huh, you see when you get that good, it doesn’t
matter which set you're using. I mean she is that good.
Russ: how come they don’t have a Wookie snowboarding
Kiri: because Centauri Base…..no Sirius Base doesn’t have
Russ: Centauri Base does.
Kiri: yes Centauri Base does but Sirius Base doesn’t.
Russ: so have a special competition between Centauri Base
and Sirius…I mean Hades Base.
Kiri: we have to put it before all three committees.
Russ: well since the committees have to meet for the races
Kiri: that’s right.
Russ: and you’re going to be…..
Kiri: actually the seat is on Hades Base.
Russ: is it?
Kiri: yes, the seat where they have the meetings and they
happen three times a year and the next one isn't due until
I believe May.
Russ: okay because my idea is I’ll talk to my Wookie
Russ: he’s a killer snowboarder.
Kiri: yeah, we’ll have to bring it up before the committee
members here that organize the races and everything.
Russ: but if we start proposing it now and getting it
ready for......I mean start getting working on the
Kiri: well you know who one of the committee members is
Russ: who, our Wookie buddy?
Russ: who? You.
Kiri: go on, take a guess.
John: he did just....just did five.
Kiri: no, not a council member.
Kiri: Lyka can’t because she’s an officer and is competing
Kiri: no, Taal's not, all the committee members are not
competing. In fact I can think of two members I know
Russ: Mark of course and Tia.
Kiri: very well that are committee members.
Russ: I’ll bring it up with Mark when he gets back.
Kiri: and Tia.
Russ: and Tia.
Kiri: uh-huh and then there’s Treeny, she’s actually a
Russ: I think it would be neat, I’d love to be up there.
I’d just love to see the Wookie races.
Kiri: yeah, in fact she’s a new member, Treeny is. And
then there’s one of the technicians that works for Taal,
he’s a committee member too.
Russ: hmm, it’s coming on down to the wire.
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