Archivist Notes: This was quite an
important session for the guest speakers who dropped
by this night and so the subjects covered were of an
also important nature. Expecting a normal channeling
session, we were pleasantly surprised by having Ashtar
and Korton spend some time answering our questions.
One other special guest speaker was Flight Commander
Taal who stopped by to say hi. As one of the pilots on
the base, we would only had few visits from him and it
should be explained that his English was not as
polished as the other speakers though it's always been
good enough to be understood clearly as to what he was
trying to say.
Omal gets this night of
dignitaries started with answering question over a
wide variety of topics but focused mainly on the
future based on Tia's predictions which have as yet to
come into reality. He's very helpful in this session
providing suggestions on how best to proceed should we
find ourselves at the collapse of society. Having a
larger view of the bigger picture than even the sixth
dimensional beings he was in charge of, he could give
us a way to plan for all eventualities he could
foresee happening as possibilities. Staying with the same theme as
Omal, Korton follows during his time
channeling with a look toward what would make
the future easier no matter the world
situation and how people can combine their
various skills to increase their chances for
survival. Ashtar comes on to give us a status
report on how we're doing as a group and our
future study schedule. He also gives us an
explanation for the removal of the shield that had
been over the house here on earth and its being
used for Carrie's dwelling instead. He ends with
an interesting analogy to describe the
possible future. Kiri finishes up side one
looking back on an incident on the base
where Mark was the subject of a
meta-concert on the base when Kiri and
Tia's children ganged up on him in fun.
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Karra: okay, well as it seems that I'm ring mistress temporarily, let us get right down to business.......
Karra: and get things taken care of as quickly and cleanly as possible.
Karra: I’ll see you guys in a few.
(Omal comes on to lead off a night of distinguished speakers.)
Omal: good evening Johnny, good evening Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: how is it functioning?
Russ: oh real well, how about yourself?
Omal: oh I cannot grumble.
Omal: down to business.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay, you have questions?
Omal: okay, let us start in no particular order.
Russ: well fair enough, I'd like to get a spelling of your name for access search on the online. I’ve got it O.m.a.l. but I could be wrong.
Omal: that sounds correct, there are several different spellings of my name but that is the most commonly used.
John: would you go ahead and give Russ the other most common misspellings of your name just for cross-references please?
Omal: O.m.a.l., e.l.
John: thank you. I’m real curious about this huge oil spill off the coast of Wales….
John: and the environmental impact and just……I just get this sinking feeling…..this is kind of a combination question. I mean there seems like there’s going to be a lot of this type of thing coming and happening, am I correct?
Omal: well there is a lot going on at the moment. For example, there is a breakdown in the peace process in Palestine.
John: yes, correct.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the peace process in Ireland.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the peace process in Bosnia.
Omal: there is a breakdown in the peace process in a couple of African states.
Omal: also in other parts of the world.
John: well Cuba just shot down two of our civilian planes and right now it looks like we could go to war with Cuba and it’s a very, very volatile situation. We were talking about stage one in the past. Things seem to be escalating and at the same time our economic situation seems to be escalating and Clinton is going to get reelected and I don’t know, it seems like this is happening too fast you know what I mean?
Omal: oh it is happening at a rather rapid speed but it does fit in very well with Tia’s predictions and the information that she has been able to gather and correlate and work with. She has established very fine lines that seem to be perfect for what is occurring at this time.
John: okay but from our standpoint since we’re here….
John: I mean are we taking a correct route in what we're doing as far as covering our asses?
Omal: yes. You are preparing very nicely, not rapidly as one would wish, but a lot faster than one would expect from time-to-time.
John: should we speed things up or am I just being apprehensive?
Omal: it is understandable for you to be apprehensive and knowing what is going to happen and seeing these events occurring is……it is better to be prepared then not be prepared. It is your own choice at which speed you progress.
John: thank you.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Russ: now I want to go a little bit of online questions real quick.
Omal: I would save that for a computer expert.
Russ: magic and us and what’s going on with you, where does that all come into the picture and where are we going with it?
Omal: define magic, I have approximately a dozen different references that I can think of.
Russ: well for example, Mark’s work with Diana and Kern.
Omal: uh-huh, who?
Omal: Diana and who?
Russ: I thought it was Kern, I could be wrong.
Omal: I believe the K should be dropped and supplemented with an H.
Russ: oh Herne, right, I learned from a different teacher. Diane and Herne and it seems like we're blending past and futures to come up with a sort of amalgamation of the present.
Omal: yes, often the future and the present do have a blending of the past. For example, we have the present with the blending of very ancient equipment using very modern equipment which is switched on am I correct?
Russ: double checking and we are rocking and rolling.
Omal: good, so you have both past and present being used for the future.
John: you betcha and we should use all of our technology to our mutual advantage, am I correct?
Omal: certainly, certainly.
John: both ancient and recent technology should be combined....
Omal: very much so.....
John: that’s why we're here.
Omal: that is correct.
John: thank you, I knew that.
Russ: right, so how do we bring in Diana into our most advantageous state from this point?
Omal: Mark is very protective over that is he not?
Omal: it would be best to discuss it with him in person.
Omal: I’m sure that with a little bit of prodding he may open up but there again it is hard to say, he seems to have some heavy natural barriers that we have difficultly penetrating. They seem to be deeply ingrained and very active when pushed on that particular area.
Russ: well I assume that he’s got to have an agenda on that one.
Russ: okay. One of the things that I wanted to talk to you about that I'll also be talking to Kiri about is....and Tia, channeling online…..
Russ: in the future. I don’t know if it’s been done or if it’s been going on now but I’m wondering if some point in the future if it hasn’t been done, if we could do something world shaking you might say.
Omal: oh you mean direct access and intervention by Tia from our dimension to your dimension.
Russ: right well I mean well actually this would be Kiri in conjunction with Tia channeling from my computer at work to other people who are online who are interested in learning more….
Omal: I think Kiri and Tia would have to get used to your keyboard before they would be able to channel directly.
John: excuse me.
John: is there a security risk with Russ attempting such a thing?
Omal: yes and no, yes in the fact that it would be a reference point but for us it would be minimal, for you it would be higher risk than for us.
John: okay, now with the risks involved.....
John: I mean there's a fine line and in my mind I want to use caution, intelligent caution.
Omal: sometimes caution can be not very useful. For example, take a historic event where caution was used and was very costly. I believe Anzio where your American forces landed and sat on the beach for approximately a week amassing a lot of equipment and were promptly chewed to pieces when they tried to go inland into Italy.
John: oh okay, excuse me, so we should be balls the walls and just do it?
John: just everything, just balls the walls or what?
Omal: I wouldn't say going flat out, I would say that caution is necessary but you can also be working quickly and cautious at the same time. It depends on the situation that you’re in at a particular time. One month or one week could be necessary to be cautious and the following week it could be necessary to be as quick as possible to amass as much equipment as possible so it is necessary to use both and analyze each situation carefully before advancing into it.
Russ: so the key is to weigh the risks.
Russ: okay, hmm.
John: thank you, it was very, very much what I wanted to hear.
Russ: now when I did some research online about Ashtar….
Omal: yes, it is old information.
Russ: I wasn’t sure, there wasn’t any dates on this thing.
Omal: no it is rehashes and discussions on what was. Unfortunately the Sedona area is starting to be corrupted. There is people moving in that are no longer interested in the goodness and the exchange of information, they are more interested in what’s in it for me.
Omal: I believe Johnny noticed that before he left that there was an increase in psychic readings, people that were there to make money for themselves, selling crystals for personal gain, no longer the friendly camaraderie of the area that there once was. When you were there Russ and when we used to channel a lot from there….
Omal: the group in Sedona that was there is breaking up and is more self-centered with how can I do this, how can I do that? Not with asking questions on advancement, they're more concerned with how to deal with matters of a personal nature which I find myself very irritating at times but have to sit down and hold someone’s hand and bring them through a trivial crisis.
John: can ask you about the fragment of truth that was left in Sedona before I left….
Omal: uh-huh, a very small fragment that is finding it harder to get hold of…..
John: they’re leaving, everyone’s leaving.
Omal: that is because it is breaking down. They will tell you that it has become corrupted with I believe you would call money grabbers?
John: oh yeah but that was happening long before I left and while I was leaving and that was one of the biggest reasons why I'm leaving, why I left.
Omal: it is still growing and the people that are looking for the truth are moving away, they are searchers as was the young lady visiting from the continent below who is a searcher and they go where they think it is advantageous for them to learn.
John: okay now Pete and Gina who are very close to me, very much spiritually in tune….
Omal: uh-huh, when are they arriving?
John: they'll be coming through here and they’re going to Idaho and they really feel that their sanctuary is in Idaho. How do you feel about that, about strategic placement and whether I'm here in Tahoe or in Idaho or in my camp in New York or my place in Arizona?
Omal: every possibility must be analyzed and looked at. It may be necessary to retreat to Arizona but in a very devious sort of way.
Omal: by going the most indirect route may be the most direct. Instead of going directly to Arizona, it may be advantageous to go to New York and then backtrack. There are things in New York that are easier to get at then there are in Arizona. So it would be advantageous to do a backtrack or you may find it easier to go to Idaho before retreating to Arizona or vice versa, Arizona before retreating to the East.
John: yes I see.
Omal: so you have to have more than one line of escape planned or it may be necessary to drag people from those places, those connections to a central point.
John: and out of all the places I've mentioned, can you give me any insight which would be a good central point?
Omal: well Idaho has its advantages of being a good central rendezvous point for all parties from all parts of the country. Arizona has its advantages because of the cabins located in that area. New York has its advantages because it is a easy access sea point to retreat even further if necessary and Lake Tahoe is a natural fortress.
John: so we’ve pretty much covered the United States and you’ve been....
Omal: unfortunately yes, everything has its advantages.
John: lovely vague you know what I mean where I guess it’s just up to me where…..
Omal: yes, that is what I’m saying….
John: where I go and what I do.
Omal: everything has its advantages and each situation has a particular area which is advantageous to retreat to. If you stay in the same location, that in itself may be advantageous to have an area to retreat back to. Let’s say for example you decide to retreat to your family….
Omal: you arrive there....
John: yes okay, excuse me.
Omal: the situation in the East is very, very bad. Rioting on a daily basis, mass migration out of the cities into the countryside, defending your property being very costly in not only munitions but in life, you decide to retreat away from that area, cutting your losses and retreating to your friends in Idaho.
John: yeah but....
Russ: hard to imagine they'd be but as a hypothetical situation, anything could happen.
John: so we would retreat hypothetically from….
Omal: from one place to another. When you plan a battle, you have to plan for every eventuality. You have to plan for how far you wish to advance, if the advance is going to be easy or hard or even if you have to retreat, you have to plan every possible avenue. If you do not consider the idea of retreat, then you are cutting off an option that may save your lives.
Omal: so it is necessary to plan for everything. You have to plan for a very, very wide area. The plans that you make with your family are very good, you must keep on with those but you must also plan for the worst. If you do not plan for the worse, then you are cutting off a very useful learning tool and something that may be needed. When you plan for the worst, you have to look at the worst-case scenario and when you look at the worst-case scenario, make it even worse. You think of everything that can go wrong and I do mean everything, even earthquakes, even volcanic activity, even nuclear strike. So it is necessary to plan for everything accordingly. Okay, next question.
Russ: okay, whether you can answer this or not I’m not sure. Ashtars visit, that was regarding us or have any effect on us?
Omal: it has no effect whatsoever but it would be useful to ask him himself.
Russ: is he here?
Russ: fair enough.
Omal: okay, last question from each of you, Johnny?
John: my move to Lake Tahoe has been very good for me and I’m not sure to the extent of my sabbatical or training with Mark and Russ, I’m not sure how far this is going to go. I don’t know if they’re going to travel with me back East or if we’re going to be here but I’m assuming I’m on the right path.
Omal: yes, you are on a path of learning and preparation. Everything even if it is really bad does serve the function of being a learning lesson. As I’ve stated in the past, it is not something to relish, it is something to live through and to be able to pass on the knowledge that you have learned. The pioneers of your country suffered greatly but yet out of that suffering came a country with infinite possibilities, not all good and not all bad but there is infinite possibilities where it could have gone and infinite possibilities of where it has gone so the struggle is necessary for the advancement of your race. I do not say struggle in the sake of struggle for itself but if it comes, then it must be dealt with and in turn those that survive do improve the country. Okay Russ?
Russ: the scenario that you painted would make an excellent computer game called "Collapse" in which America collapses financially and you must go to various places in the country to pick up certain items that you can’t get other places to take them back to certain places to make your refuge. I might have to get together with someone here and work on that, what do you think?
Omal: if you wish.
Russ: good idea.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: thank you, you’re welcome.
John: thank you so much.
Omal: live long, prosper and I’ll see you guys later.
John: see you around bub.
(Karra makes a quick transition between speakers.)
Russ: good computer game.
John: good session.
Karra: okay, next person.
John: okay and Mark has been brutal ill. In fact I've been worried about him and his voice is still raspy.
(Korton shares his extensive computer knowledge with us.)
Korton: greetings of felicitations. Greetings Russ, greetings Johnny, let us get down to business.
John: is this Ashtar we are addressing?
Korton: no, no.
Russ: good afternoon Korton.
Korton: good afternoon.
John: long time no see.
Korton: yes, it is a very long time. Okay, let us attend to the situation at hand. Let me start by saying that the way you are proceeding at a cautious but yet steady rate is very advantageous for the advancement of the situations that are possible in the near future. The occurrences that have been happening are part of the projections by our analysts. Okay now, questions.
Russ: okay, you're not the computer expert Omal was talking about are you?
Korton: yes I am.
Russ: you are, good.
Korton: antique computers as you know is my specialty.
Russ: of course, I wasn’t sure if he meant you or Tia. Now when we’re talking about the preparations, my getting online, working with computers are part of those preparations?
Russ: okay, I’m learning as I go to make this a speedier process, how can I use it more to my advantage with the online service?
Korton: okay what you do is download, you upgrade your system and download.
Russ: add more memory?
Korton: yes, it is very advantageous when you are dealing with computers to download information into your computer, you read it then discard it.....
Russ: oh okay.
Korton: or print it up. I personally when I am working my antiques, I will print up old information and I will then read the information in the soft form. I understand that you are charged for the time that you are on the computer.
Korton: so it is quicker to download information and then read it at your convenience when you’re not being charged.
Russ: oh okay, that is a much better idea. I'll get a couple gigs of memory.
Russ: okay, Johnny?
John: I’m totally and completely computer ignorant….
John: but I have my distinct advantages with our preparation for what’s happening.
John: I understand the use of computers and how it can be helpful but for me I'm just spontaneous, no computers. I have a hard time spelling Apple correctly but that’s not to my disadvantage is it?
Korton: no it is not. Some people find computers intimidating.......
John: yes I do.
Korton: it is a tool that is not for them if you know what I mean, it is more of a hindrance in the learning ability for them. It is like a scribe of the past and the master tradesman. One cannot exist without the other. For example, Russ may be computer literate but there again can he gut, skin and butcher an animal?
John: no he can’t.
Korton: so therefore both of you complement each other very well.
John: okay so I’m…..with me being computer illiterate…..
Korton: you use it as a trade. You get somebody like Russ that is computer literate and you say, "okay, I need information, this is what I want. In return, I will cook your dinner for you."
John: all right.
Korton: so it is a trade that is very useful. After all, most computer people do not have time to sit down and cook themselves a dinner, they’re more interested in having a quick snack and working with their computer. It is like some of our engineers here that they’d sooner work on their equipment designing things then go home and have a lunch.
John: okay, all right.
Korton: but if you were in return for getting information for trade.
John: are you the one to ask about as far as the food and the nutrition?
Korton: that would be Karra.
John: okay, I thought so. Do you have insight on that?
Korton: high-protein is sometimes the way to go. High-protein in small qualities will keep you on your feet quicker and longer then low-protein in mass quantity or high-protein in high quantity. I believe you would say snacking......
Korton: when on the move.
John: okay and with my particular metabolism, I need to eat on a regular basis otherwise I’ll be…..I would….I can have a problem with my blood sugar.
John: but I do have incredible stamina.
Korton: well it is handy to have a piece of bread that it has sugars which release in the system very quickly and gives you the energy for maneuvering.
John: well I know if I eat a piece of bread or some crackers when I’m lightheaded or feeling my sugar being low, is better than eating a candy bar or drinking some soda pop.
Korton: that is too high in sugar content.
Korton: it will give you a sugar rush.
John: I have a problem with that with working the way I do……
John: and just being able to live with the sugar rush and the caffeine….
Korton: yes it does lead to some interesting effects from what I have seen. Okay, last question from each of you for me.
Russ: okay, what’s your email address?
Korton: it is dot com, I don’t think you would be able to access it. You need a computer….a satellite uplink.
Russ: oh. (Chuckles.)
Korton: a direct satellite uplink.
Russ: it is Korton.com.
Korton: not Korton.
John: how do you spell your name?
John: is there any other spellings?
Korton: again, yes there are. Okay, thank you.
Russ: thank you Korton.
(Karra returns to make the hand-off.)
Karra: okay, next person.
Russ: hi Karra, it sounds much better.
Karra: yes, I was told not to hurry.
John: are you in a hurry?
Russ: she was earlier.
John: you in a hurry now?
Russ: no, she’s gone.
John: she’s gone
Russ: she’s gone.
(Ashtar honors us with a visit.)
Ashtar: greetings of felicitations. Okay, let us get down to business quickly and precisely as I do have depart. First of all, I would like to congratulate you on your equipment that you have achieved for yourselves, this is very good and very promising. Secondly I would like to thank our computer genius who unfortunately needs a break from her work but it is necessary for her well-being to achieve a constant high standard of work that she has been doing. I would like to thank Mrs. Crocker as she wishes to be called at this time for her very high standard of work and I thought it would be necessary to thank her in front of everybody.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Ashtar: okay, now let me continue. With what is occurring now at this time, it is necessary to keep a very close eye for key events that will occur. I am not allowed by my own directives to tell you what those events are but you will know them when they occur. It is necessary to watch out for them. Next I would like to move on a little bit and discuss the technical growth that will be necessary to achieve. A while back it was requested by Russ to continue with the studies on meta-concert and shielding, at that time it was denied. Again it will be denied for a little while longer but in the near future you will be dealing with growth in meta-concert and the next stage in shielding. Also what will be covered in the shielding is the earlier stages for a clearer clarification and better explanation for those that do not have adequate shielding. Shielding tests will occur, randomly. Next I would like to move on again to shielding of your abode and the reasons for its dismantling and uses. As you were well aware, a young lady that you know needed shielding. The shielding that is around her current habitation is a variation on what was around yours however, yours had a filler, hers does not. It has another substance which is a reflective substance which is more of a dampening field of the energy of the house. Again it has been keyed to Tia’s access code and to Carrie’s access code. I believe Mike is experimenting with astral travel even though it is subconscious it has been keyed to him. It is unusual to have a shield keyed to so many different variables so she has a variable, modulating shielding system.
Ashtar: okay, questions.
Russ: okay, with the turmoil coming up, how would be the best way to learn to expand consciously through this?
Russ: ahhh okay, Johnny?
John: is it advisable, is it safe to share our knowledge that we get through you and the knowledge we gain ourselves? I mean we’re growing and learning at such a fast pace here.
Ashtar: to the necessary few that have the right aptitude, yes. The lady from the southern, inverted continent is very good point to use to spread knowledge to different parts of the world. Also something that should be covered is the preparation for a gene pool.
Ashtar: that will be dealt with by our resident geneticist at his convenience. (Kornas)
Ashtar: next question.
Russ: okay, the information that I’m gathering from the online services that are associated with you, is this you actually or a part of….
Ashtar: some of it is me, some is attributed to me but is not.
Ashtar: next question please.
Russ: okay, what is the photon belt that we have got online is attributed to you?
Ashtar: that is attributed to me, it is not me.
Ashtar: is a reference I’m not sure of.
Russ: alright, it confused me too.
Ashtar: next question Johnny.
John: the Hubble telescope, I understand it has photographs or visualized some of your reconnaissance vehicles or some of your activities….
John: is it true, has the Hubble telescope...?
Ashtar: when you say you, you mean extraterrestrials? That is correct, there have been little technical glitches that are perceived as technical glitches that are extraterrestrial. As for us, if it is accidental, then it needs to be addressed and will not happen again.
John: okay and please don’t misunderstand my use of saying you and using that term to….
Ashtar: I understand.
John: it was not an insult.
Ashtar: okay last question Russ?
Russ: okay, speaking on the same terms Johnny was, that satellite that broke through the tether from the space shuttle?
Ashtar: that was not us.
Russ: that wasn't you, okay thank you.
Ashtar: last questions Johnny.
John: overall, on our third dimensional planet here, things are really shaky and seem to be very, very volatile. Oh God, what is my question? Where do we go from here?
Ashtar: to answer your question I will give you an analogy. Things always appear worse before sunrise which means that the situation that is coming will be preceded with the rising of the sun if you understand what I mean.
John: yes, I'm going to weather it, I will survive it, thank you so much.
Ashtar: thank you.
Russ: thank you Ashtar.
(Kiri makes it to chat to take over as ring mistress.)
Kiri: yo, I finally arrived.
Russ: oh my God.
John: where the heck you been?
Kiri: I’ve been in a meeting.
Russ: that’s a good excuse.
Kiri: yes, that is a good excuse. I’ve been in a meeting with the crèche parents for Leonedies.
John: was he misbehaving?
Kiri: no actually, he’s been very well behaved, he’s been as they put it a typical super operant. They’re both super operants and they’re expecting.
Russ: oh congratulations to them.
John: so when he’s been behaving himself, you mean he eats the hamsters whole and spits their tails out? (John is confusing the son of Kiri with the daughters of Tia who are of two totally separate races.)
Kiri: no, he doesn’t eat hamsters, he’s a typical Sirian. He loves fish, can't hold it down very well at the moment because he’s too young. He behaves himself. He is a as they put it, a good child which made me laugh because they don’t see him at home and they said that they can imagine as they're expecting their second child.
Russ: was their first one was a super operant also?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh, it’s normally the way that it happens.
John: Mark was telling me about Leonedies putting him in a bubble and thinking it was a big joke and Mark almost panicked.
Kiri: I think that was something that I thought was best not to bring up in the meeting, it was like a parents meeting?
Russ: PTA kind of thing?
John: yeah, yeah, is it okay with me bringing it up now?
Kiri: oh yeah, I think it was funny actually looking back on it. At the time it was…..
John: well I mean I’m picturing Mark in my mind in this bubble trying to get out and this small super child just….
Kiri: well he wasn’t the only person involved in it.
John: I know, I know.....
Kiri: he was in a mete-concert.
Russ: he was in meta-concert with some other children.
Kiri: uh-huh, yes the Cubs.
John: yes but they blew Mark away temporarily at least.
Kiri: well five individuals of the same mental strength as an adult joined together will overpower an adult.
John: yes, Mark found that out.
John: did you find it amusing?
John: did you know what was going on when the kids were doing that to him?
Kiri: not originally no, when I got there I assessed the situation and I just disrupted the meta-concert. It’s pretty easy to do actually.
John: why can’t Mark do that?
Kiri: because he’s not a powerful coercer like I am.
John: is he a powerful coercer in the third dimension?
Kiri: he’s got quite a lot of coercive ability but compared to myself, he is limited.
Russ: well Kiri, I look forward to our work here coming up with shielding.
Russ: and we get to a point where I can maintain shielding on a constant level without having to keep reinforcing all the time, especially when like Ashtar is in town.
Kiri: and especially when you’re up against me.
John: and I’m assuming the testing will involve me also?
Kiri: uh-huh but it will be random, very random and it will come from sources that you wouldn’t even know.
John: okay and I’m expecting you’ll be involved more directly….
John: then Ashtar is. I mean would he test me?
Kiri: oh, not personally until it came to I think you would say examination time.
Russ: like this time I could feel him testing my shields but unfortunately my shielding needs more work because I can’t maintain it at a strong enough level for the entire time he's talking. Keeps coming on and off.
John: well it sent shivers up and down my spine.
Russ: well he was just giving you a little, minor probe.
John: oh yeah.
Russ: with me he was a bit more....of a more.....
John: serious with you?
Kiri: put it this way, if he was to probe you at his normal level for operants up here, you would go AHHHHH and your head with boil and I don’t mean that a negative way, I mean.....
John: my head would boil?
Kiri: well that’s what it would feel like.
Russ: yeah I got a headache from it.
John: it wouldn’t literally boil would it?
Kiri: no but that’s what it would feel like.
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John: .......more direct?
Kiri: he's going to try, if not, he will send his deputies or he will make a deputy. But for shielding…..
John: is that anyone I’ve met?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh, well he will decide at the time. Anyway I’ve got to…..
John: and whom might that be?
Kiri: it could be myself, he could ask Korton to sit in for him, he could send another Council member, he could send anybody or ask anybody that he wishes. After all, as he once said, he is the base commander.
John: and Ashtar, is he…..? He seemed to be pleased with everything overall.
Kiri: I thought so, uh-huh.
Russ: good luck with the ski races darling.
Kiri: oh thank you yes, I leave on Wednesday of next week so I will be briefly at the next channeling session so we will deal with what happens then. I believe it might have to be an early channeling session as well like 7:30, otherwise I’m going to miss it.
John: but the rest of the gang will be there right?
Kiri: yeah uh-huh.
John: if you can’t make it?
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, I’m going to step aside and put on the next person as I am supposed to be ring mistress and I would like to thank my elder for sitting in for me.
(Karra returns to channel as scheduled.)
Russ: hi darling.
Karra: I get to answer questions.
John: I've been wondering about coercion?
Russ: you have to ask Kiri for that.
John: yeah I know, I know but I’ve been wanted to ask her something but…..
Russ: well, Omal did mention something about you and nutrition you could ask Karra.
Karra: oh yes, okay nutrition.
John: yes and also with….okay I’ve got my knowledge and no computer background, you listened in to the meeting and everything…
John: okay so you already know what's been discussed….
John: this evening.
Karra: what you can do is as Omal suggested, make a trade. You want information on nutritional levels, talk to my my dear life mate to ask him to find nutritional supplements or a protein that could be used cheaply that gives a high-protein in return. I can give you suggestions.....
John: okay no, I maybe misstated the question, okay......I know about proteins and diets and recipes and different things..
John: now I’m talking about buying survival food, lentils and beans and coming up with good, well-balanced nutritional vegetarian diets which us carnivores can incorporate food into. And even Russell gets carnivorous you know what I mean where he won’t eat a pig but he’ll eat a chicken.
John: you know what I mean? And….
Karra: well there is a supplement that you can add that will fool you into thinking that it is beef, lamb, chicken…..
John: okay, I have no problem with a vegetarian diet.
John: what I’m concerned with is a well-balanced nutrition, economics and availability on our planet in this third dimensional space. Rice, beans….
Karra: there are many possibilities…..yes, rice, beans, nuts, never forget nuts.
John: nuts are very important.
Russ: what supplement are you talking about Karra?
Karra: I believe you call them bouillon?
Russ: called what?
Karra: extract cubes.
Russ: oh bouillon.
John: yeah but you know what’s in bouillon? You know what’s actually in that?
Karra: well there’s a lot of chemicals I'm aware of, monosodium glutamate being one of them.
John: yes it’s great stuff, I added MSG. But I mean I’m familiar with using both chicken and beef bouillon in my gravies and sauces. I mean if you make a chicken stock from scratch, you take the chicken juice and if you don’t add some chicken bouillon to it, you don’t get the full flavor okay?
Karra: uh-huh, yeah.
Karra: I do not eat any meat myself personally, I eat fish only but that is a racial thing for us.
John: okay now with getting fish and using dried fish and canned fish…
John: okay? I mean it’s a good viable source of protein, there’s no doubt about it.
Karra: uh-huh, it is very enjoyable.....
Russ: to each their own.
Karra: to eat all different types of fish. Anyway, I am hogging a lot of time and we have a guest speaker that has just been added.
John: you don't understand Russ, I'm trying to find good fish to eat.
(Kiri transfers speakers once more.)
Kiri: you have a quick question for me don’t you?
Kiri: okay, ask away quickly.
John: I forgot what it was, you guys been whipping around tonight.
Kiri: write it down and ask me next week. Write it down, stick it in front of the clock so you can ask me next week. I've got to put on the next person, okay.
Russ: bye Kiri.
(Tia takes a break from her sabbatical to channel.)
(Tia says high in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: you're the guest speaker?
Tia: no I’m not a speaker, they're going to put the guest speaker on last of all.
Russ: that’s quite a guest.
Tia: I feel quite important at the moment, I’ve never been complemented like that before.
Russ: on tape too.
Tia: yes. I feel very, very, very, very honored.
John: well you should be, you’ve been very helpful.
Russ: I don't know, I thought taking you from work would be a worse idea than leaving you on work.
Russ: because taking you from work…
Tia: well, it is a crucial time. Anyway, I’ve got something to say quickly.
Tia: (Sings the birthday song for Mark and myself who both have birthdays on this day.)
Russ: thank you sweetheart.
Tia: and Mark.
Russ: and Mark of course.
Tia: got any questions for me?
Russ: oh you want questions now?
Russ: oh okay, go ahead Johnny.
John: (Laughs) oh yeah thanks.....got me spinning. Okay, we’ve been talking a lot and focusing on changing world events.
Tia: I can't answer those questions at the moment.
John: yes, well alright let me lead up to this.
John: I'll make it as brief as possible. Okay and as far as economics and just nutrition and the basic bottom line.
John: I've been told we’re approaching the situation correctly….
John: and to keep on doing what we’re doing. As far as……I mean I don’t know whether to ask about nutrition or spiritual.
Tia: well I was a priestess when I was younger, bet you didn’t know that.
John: I didn’t know. What’s your assessment of this whole third dimensional thing we’re trying to do and.....?
Tia: I think you’re going the right way. I really.......because I’m on sabbatical and I’m not allowed to answer questions of a political or nature on what I normally do. I miss that but they think I need a rest.
John: yeah well it’s understandable but you do understand where it put me in a funny position where I was going to ask you a heavy question and now......
Tia: and now you're not allowed to and it is frustrating. I would love to answer any question but I’m not allowed to because I’m not supposed to think about things too…...
Russ: what about with astral travel?
Tia: yeah sure.
Russ: oh great.
Russ: now, with the traveling up to see Karra for me….
Russ: I was really in a lot of trouble trying to stay focused and not letting my mind just keep wandering.
Tia: well you aren’t helping doing burning the candle at both ends again.
Russ: yeah but I still want to focus anyway. You see with what’s coming up in the future all right? I’ve got to be able to do a lot more than I’m doing now and still have access to my astral form.
Tia: I wouldn’t worry about it at the moment because you are working hard. I wouldn’t condemn yourself to what you would call purgatory because you can’t focus at this time.
Russ: but still, it’s something I have to learn in the future.
Tia: that’s right but at this time don’t concern yourself too much with it.
Russ: I won’t but in the future let’s work on a program that will allow me access to that.
Russ: okay? It's just something to keep in mind like that.
Tia: uh-huh and I was very honored on that comment, very honored. Computer whiz.
Russ: genius I believe was the word.
Tia: genius, yes.
Russ: whiz is one level below genius.
Tia: uh-huh, I was very, very honored. I’ve never been called a genius.
Russ: well all the times that I’ve heard you talking to him, usually you're under such stress whenever he comes by and visits that you're like AHHH.
Russ: so Korton had a good idea about downloading information to my computer instead of reading it right off the thing.
Russ: I need more memory.
Tia: I use probably when I’m correlating all my reports and everything, I use a gig in a day but that’s only month ends. That is pictures, holograms, the works.
Russ: oh well holograms would eat up memory faster than any kind of GIF files I get.
Russ: because then you go into three-dimensional….
Tia: that’s right.
Russ: and the math involved in three-dimensional holograms is….
Tia: is incredible.
Russ: well math, I mean I don’t know how you guys do the little hologram picture discs. I mean I can't.....
Tia: oh you mean for, oh yes the discs.
Russ: the discs, I mean just for a little photo to do a hologram of….
Russ: well that little disc must store a couple gigs of memory in it just to use it for the hologram.
Tia: I think they store about eight gigs each.
Russ: they’d have to.
Tia: uh-huh, because you can get six pictures on each disc.
Russ: oh you can?
Tia: uh-huh, but it depends on the size, life-size you can only get two.
Russ: oh okay.
Tia: uh-huh but little ones about desk high you can get about six on there.
Russ: eight gigs of memory for just for that little thing.
Russ: that is technology that we are way sadly behind in.
Tia: well the base on it is about that thick and that’s where most of the storage. The disc itself is mainly a focusing device for it to stand on.
Russ: and then is that a laser optical system that you're using?
Tia: uh-huh yeah, I believe so, you’d have to ask our engineer.
Russ: the technical expert.
John: now let me ask you this, in our tiny, three-dimensional minds....
John: we believe that we’ve come to the apex of technology of mankind.
Tia: I used to…..
John: but hasn’t this been accomplished several times, hasn’t there been past technologies that have surpassed our present technology?
Tia: I believe so yes. There is something I do have to tell you Johnny is that I am a third dimensional being myself. I’m learning to be sixth dimensional. I was a bipedal life form on my home planet which is a third dimensional planet so when you say third dimensional, I usually understand.
John: I mean you understand where I’m coming from okay?.
Tia: yeah I know exactly what you’re coming from, yes. Anyway, I’ve been told to hop off.
Russ: bye Tia, have fun darling.
John: see you.
Russ: see you.
(Kiri hands off to Taal.)
Kiri: okay, I’m going to put on the last person dudes.
Russ: okay dudette.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Kiri: I’ll see shortly.
(We get a rare visit from Wing Commander Taal.)
Russ: (I stand up and salute.) hello Taal, indeed greetings. Taal is one of the pilot leaders if I remember right.
Russ: ahh yes.
Russ: officer. My former officer and……
Russ: still commanding officer when I get back into a ship here once in a while.
Russ: well, how’s life been treating you Taal, any good excitement lately?
Taal: I have another confirmed victory to my belt.
Russ: hey, congratulations.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: good deal. What was the circumstances surrounding this? You’re not talking about Mark and your guy’s….(Mark and Taal have holographic flight simulations against each other on the base.)
Taal: no, no, although I have challenged him.
Russ: oh good.
Taal: but he did not accept or decline.
Taal: no, this was a vessel that would not yield for inspection.
Russ: oh, okay.
Taal: it would not stop for inspection. I fired a warning shot across its bow, it carried on going. I fired a shot at its engines to disable, it returned fire.
Russ: bad call on his part.
Taal: so I scanned, took down its shield, scanned again. It continued returning fire so I destroyed.
Russ: you gave it plenty of chances.
Taal: we are meant to.
Russ: yeah. Now that reminds me of something Taal, I was reading about an incident that happened back in 1954 where a ship crashed in the deserts of……
John: New Mexico.
Russ: of New Mexico and apparently what had been shown is that apparently it came out of the atmosphere and burned up and the bodies inside burned up but knowing the shielding the capabilities of it, it seems like it was disabled first before it made its headlong plunge into our atmosphere.
Taal: that was not me.
Russ: oh I know that wasn’t you but that sounds like something that would happen.
Taal: yes, an engagement would……the primary function of an engagement is to take out shielding first.
Russ: uh-huh, okay.
Taal: by disabling the shielding, it makes the target easier to board or destroy, preferably board for inspection.
Russ: right. Now, wouldn’t it be a necessary standard operating procedure to make sure that the craft disintegrates before it hits the ground?
Taal: if the crew is alive this would be not……sorry, I do not know the word……practical…..
Russ: practical right.
Taal: thank you Kiri. (Speaking to Kiri.)
Russ: okay so those crafts that were found where the crew had died but the ship survived intact, was that just maybe pilot error?
Taal: possibly yes.
Russ: oh okay. Some of these guys probably flying around here aren’t that great of pilots probably, from some of the other places.
Taal: no, there is no such thing as bad pilot, bad pilot dead.
Russ: that’s true. So when's your next mission?
Taal: I will be escorting on Wednesday a group of two vessels….
Talk: to Sirius. I will be returning with said group a week later.
Russ: a ski team I believe.
Russ: on route to the skiing.
Taal: we are part of honor guard.
Russ: excellent, so you can go to the races.
Taal: yes, I am not competing.
Russ: too bad. How’s Katrina doing?
Taal: she is going also….we are having......
Taal: you would say second honeymoon?
Russ: ahh, I take it she’s one of the shuttle pilots?
Russ: ahh, lucky guess.
Taal: yes, it is the only chance that she has had to fly in over a year.
Russ: yes but she’s…..the child’s growing well.
Russ: she doesn’t have to be running inventories in the hangers anymore, she should be able to fly isn't she?
Taal: she is still ground crew, she is…..
Taal: will be for another 6 to 12 months.
Russ: that must just tear her up.
Taal: yes, she is requesting to be shuttle pilot though.
Russ: that’s good, are you taking the little one with you?
Russ: excellent, good.
Taal: he will be flying with me.
Russ: ahh, his first trip to Sirius I take it?
Russ: good, good, that will be nice. What a nice vacation, second honeymoon with the child and everything.
Russ: oh fantastic. Okay, well I look forward to seeing you whenever I can, you’ll be on the base for at least until Sunday then?
Taal: until Wednesday.
Russ: Wednesday, that’s right.
Taal: we stop on Sirius to rendezvous with other ski team so we go there for big arrival display.
Russ: umm, formation flying then?
Russ: oh neat.
Taal: have always wanted to go to surface of Centauri Base.
Russ: hmm, I’ve been to Centauri Base, nice place.
Taal: looking forward.
Russ: yeah, you’ll have a good time, lots of nice things to do out there. And are you doing any recreational skiing once you get there?
Taal: yes, probably, Katrina wants to ski. She said name of mountain and she had wistful look in her eyes.
Russ: well excellent, that will be fun for you guys then. By the way, I understand my former copilot had a bit of a experience a while back.
Taal: yes, again. He has accident prone. His vessel still being sent for repair, has new one.
Russ: oh he has a new one?
Russ: okay, I was going to say, poor guy got jumped and everything.
Taal: glad he made it back.
Russ: well that’s good.
Taal: as I said, no such thing as bad pilot.
Russ: bad pilot.
Taal: thank you, dismissed.
Russ: farewell Taal.
John: thank you.
(Kiri takes the session to its conclusion.)
Russ: hey Kiri.
Russ: hey baby. Hey question for you sweetheart.
Russ: hey, when I get to a point where I’m able to do a homepage on my online Internet and put information that can be accessed, I'd like to work on putting out some of the Sirian Chronicles. How much of that should be made available, very little?
Kiri: I would have to discuss it Korton….yes Korton and Omal as communications. It will be a discussion between the three of us as I am chief librarian. (The chief librarian of Sirius, a position earned by birthright.)
Russ: yes well you know what I've printed up so far.
Russ: let us work on that because that takes it up to the second……what’s it called?
Kiri: the second ascension.
Russ: second ascension, takes it up to the second ascension.
Russ: so just anything before that, just go ahead and we'll work on editing….
Russ: from that point on.
John: so with all these heavyweights being in….
John: was it coincidental that our channeling session was coordinating with all the heavyweights or....?
Kiri: no, sometimes they do do that that they will coordinate so that there’s a channeling…..
John: they time their schedules to fit in?
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. Especially if they’ve been in Council meetings and they come out……hello, oh I’m sorry…(A cat had come up against Mark and then walked away)........but they will do that, they will come to channeling sessions. In fact I think they went directly next door to another channeling session.
Russ: oh really?
John: where was that from?
Kiri: I can’t tell you.
Russ: no, they can’t tell us.
Kiri: yes and this is the first time I’ve been able to compete that I haven’t been pregnant.
Russ: oh yeah that’s right, it is.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah when we had the races here on the base, I had just had Alex and wasn’t feeling up for it and then we didn’t have races the following year and then I was pregnant with Leonedies.
Russ: you sure you weren't at the races before? Thought we had two races, one at the old Wookie mountain and one at the new Wookie mountain.
Kiri: I think you’re right yeah but I didn’t compete in any of them.
John: have you ever skied anywhere here on earth?
Kiri: on earth? No I haven’t.
John: on this planet?
Kiri: no I haven’t. That’s right because I did compete at the old Wookie compound because Mark and Tia were working down in the tent doing controls and they were total animals and what did Mark tell you to go and do when you stuck your head inside the tent?
Russ: something about go jump off a mountain.
Kiri: yeah, something like that. Uh-huh, compared to the other races, the ones last year on Sirius and the ones coming up this year, I mean those are very unprofessional.
Russ: oh very much so, they were just warming up for the big stuff.
Kiri: we knew that they had the competitions between Sirius and Centauri base but we thought that we weren’t good enough. But when Lyka last year came home with the gold……
Russ: our girl Lyka.
Kiri: yeah, GS winner.
Russ: she’s going again.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah and she’s hot, she is hot.
Russ: kicked butt on you all day huh?
Kiri: well if I get as good as she is then I’ll be happy.
Russ: well if I get as good as her then I’ll be skiing on my circuit down here.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh she would eat your pros down there for breakfast.
Russ: yeah well the technology's a little bit different too.
Kiri: she doesn’t use….
Russ: she doesn’t use the custom skis?
Kiri: no, she is regular normal skis.
Russ: she’s that good?
Kiri: uh-huh, you see when you get that good, it doesn’t matter which set you're using. I mean she is that good.
Russ: how come they don’t have a Wookie snowboarding competition?
Kiri: because Centauri Base…..no Sirius Base doesn’t have any Wookies.
Russ: Centauri Base does.
Kiri: yes Centauri Base does but Sirius Base doesn’t.
Russ: so have a special competition between Centauri Base and Sirius…I mean Hades Base.
Kiri: we have to put it before all three committees.
Russ: well since the committees have to meet for the races anyway…..
Kiri: that’s right.
Russ: and you’re going to be…..
Kiri: actually the seat is on Hades Base.
Russ: is it?
Kiri: yes, the seat where they have the meetings and they happen three times a year and the next one isn't due until I believe May.
Russ: okay because what I’ll do is talk to my Wookie buddy….
Russ: he’s a killer snowboarder.
Kiri: yeah, we’ll have to bring it up before the committee members here that organize the races and everything.
Russ: but if we start proposing it now and getting it ready for......I mean start getting working on the proposal now…..
Kiri: well you know who one of the committee members is don’t you?
Russ: who, our Wookie buddy?
Russ: who? You.
Kiri: go on, take a guess.
John: he did just....just did five.
Kiri: no, not a council member.
Kiri: Lyka can’t because she’s an officer and is competing this year.
Kiri: no, Taal's not, all the committee members are not competing. In fact I can think of two members I know personally……
Russ: Mark of course and Tia.
Kiri: very well that are committee members.
Russ: I’ll bring it up with Mark when he gets back.
Kiri: and Tia.
Russ: and Tia.
Kiri: uh-huh and then there’s Treeny, she’s actually a committee member.
Russ: I think it would be neat, I’d love to be up there. I’d just love to see the Wookie races.
Kiri: yeah, in fact she’s a new member, Treeny is. And then there’s one of the technicians that works for Taal, he’s a committee member too.
Russ: hmm, it’s coming on down to the wire.
THE TAPE ENDS
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