(Ring Mistress Tia starts things
Tia: okay, letís get down to business and let's
start going over things shall we?
Russ: all right, that sounds good.
Tia: okay, financial reports. Not good, not good at
Russ: no, stock markets are taking a big dive.
Tia: uh-huh, worldwide.
Tia: hmmm okay, thatís pretty much as I predicted
and letís look at weather. Whether the weather be
not. Okay, well as you notice the weather patterns
have been a little bit goofy and strange......
Tia: much again as predicted. I donít see much in
the way of change that itís going to be drier than
normal but if you notice in certain areas itís been
wetter than normal. For example the East Coast,
again much as I said it would be, I hate always
being right when itís negative stuff. What else?
Okay, letís look at some of the civil unrest and the
most current problem thatís occurred which is the
crashing or rather the landing
of a U.S. reconnaissance plane in China.
Russ: ahh yes.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, now itís probably very likely
that the fighter that collided with the aircraft got
a little too close and sliced off the nose. The
pictures that I have seen indicate that more than
likely it was an accident. The aircraftÖÖthereís a
feline outside saying, "in please" or rather saying,
"in"ÖÖ..the pictures that I have looked at indicate
that there was extensive damage done to the front of
the aircraft, Iím surprised that the aircraft was
capable of landing. However, the valuable
information that was on board fortunately was
managed to be destroyed beforehand. Whether or not
this is good is depending on your interpretation of
certain key facts. Let us move along unless you got
Tia: okay, to the McCain-Feingold reform bill, one
for me. Itís progressing, the factors that have been
factored in that are negotiable are being
negotiated. The nonnegotiable factors that were
hidden within the bill are still pretty much intact.
Nobodyís had a real good, close look at what is
hidden in there fortunately but it is progressing as
planned. There is opposition from the Democrats of
course because they rely heavily on soft money so to
them this is a very harmful and dangerous bill.
However, McCain, John McCain is doing exactly as
planned and is working very hard on getting this
across and passed. Do you have questions?
Russ: yeah, isnít it a factor that whether or not it
goes through it's still good for McCain?
Tia: uh-huh and itís even better if it does go
Russ: yeah but one of the problems I see in that
bill is the First Amendment rights that are being
violated by the stopping of political ads sixty days
before the election. Thatís the only problem I
really see in the whole entire mess.
Tia: okay, now, if you look more closely at it and
youíre parroting the Democratic party line which is
expected seeing as you are a Democrat......
Russ: that with hopes.
Tia: uh-huh but you are parroting the Democratic
line or the Democratic Partyís line that this is a
breach of First Amendment rights. Isnít it also a
breach of Amendment rights to go against the right
to bear arms?
Tia: isnít that what the Democrats preach, taking
away the weapons from the people?
Russ: well taking away certain weapons.
Tia: certain weapons?
Tia: such as?
Russ: assault riflesÖ.
Russ: automatic weaponsÖ.
Russ: canít argue with that.
Tia: but the overall plan and projection is to get
rid of the weapons out of the hands of the people.
Russ: I haven't read anything in the Democratic
manifesto about that one.
Tia: no but it is pretty common knowledge and the
reason itís not in there is because they wouldn't
get elected, plain and simple. They hide things
frequently whereas the McCain and Feingold bill is
being upfront and honest and it is not breaching the
First Amendment rights freedom of speech, not at
all. What it is doing is itís limiting the
capability by A, the soft money and B, banning party
direct assaults on candidates directly before the
election. What you're still allowed to do is to make
issue ads but not assault the candidates that are
making the election. You have to be honest and
upfront on who is sponsoring these commercials.
Before hand you werenít allowed to so in another
words what it is doing is itís changing the fact
that they can slander even their own candidates and
say that itís somebody elseís ad which is what
happened prior to the election. So by changing this
and making it public on who is actually paying for
it, is actually beneficial to all parties involved.
The fact of doing away 30 and 60 days before anybody
is elected is perfect, it gives everybody equal
opportunities and rights which is again totally
direct from what the Democrats preach, as long as it
benefits them and nobody else, thatís all that
Tia: it is designed in such a way that it does not
benefit one or the other, it is equally harmful to
both or equally beneficial to both depending on your
point of view.
Russ: okay, I think the only thing then that I have
a problem with is the fact that on the other issue
on that, the McCain-Feingold bill, is how is the
Democrats going to raise the soft money or any money
to play in the same field as the Republicans?
Tia: how are they going to? The same way that
theyíve always done it.
(a cat in the room drops a gift in front of Tia)
Tia: thank you.
(Tia has a quick back and forth with the cat)
Tia: itís set up in such a way that it is equal for
both. The Democrats have always relied on vast sums
of soft money, vast sums, the Republicans have never
relied on it because they get their money through
other means, perfectly legal other means. The
Democrats have never tapped into this because the
soft money is far more plentiful and less work
needed to get it then the money that the Republicans
get, itís easy to get.
Russ: well that's different from what I'm reading in
Tia: well youíre getting a slanted view.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: what are you reading?
Russ: well Iím reading where both parties are
reaching parity finally in the soft monies,
Democrats finally getting up to where the
Republicans are soft money wise......
Russ: and now theyíre worried that that soft money
is going to be taken away because they canít compete
in the hard money arena.
Tia: and why canít they compete?
Russ: mostly because of the fact that the soft money
is coming from places that are traditionally
Democratic: labor unions, entertainment industry, so
Tia: not strictly true. A lot of the activities that
were going on with the large quantities of money
that were exchangingÖÖ..let me rephrase it. They
were caught with their hands in the jar with the
whole entire Al Gore Buddhist
Temple routine. Where is a Buddhist monk going
to get their hands on twenty or $40,000?
Russ: got me.
Tia: and this is what happened at the Buddhist
temple fiasco for poor Igor.
Russ: I thought it was all coming in from China to
this Buddhist Temple?
Russ: itís just being funneled through the Buddhist
Tia: uh-huh and that's where a lot of the soft money
for the Democrats actually tends to come through
Russ: I see.
Tia: and what they want to do is put a stop to that.
Thatís what the soft money thing is all about is the
fronting of money.
Russ: well the McCain-Feingold bill has passed the
Senate hasnít it?
Russ: it just has to go through the houseÖ..
Russ: exactly as it went through the Senate.
Russ: and the odds on that are?
Russ: I trusted it was higher odds.
Tia: everythingís 50-50, either it does or it
Tia: okay, now moving along.
Tia: okay now letís look at some of the civil unrest
Russ: all right.
Tia: of course thereís the Israeli Palestine thing
going on which again is something that has been an
ongoing issue for these many, many months now. The
so-called peace accord that was created by president
Bill Clinton seems to have eroded very, very rapidly
and dissipated because there was no real support for
it, it was more his legacy.
Tia: and most of his legacy issues have fallen to
pieces. As the same with Northern Ireland, that has
fallen to pieces but you donít hear anything about
that much of it in the news now because no longer do
you have a president that is possessed by his legacy
or possessed by the fact of looking good whilst
actually being extremely dirty. What you have is a
family man orientation in the White House. You see
Russ: well I see that anything that happens in
Israel or Ireland is all going to be blamed on Bush
Tia: correct but Bush hasnít promised them anything,
Bill Clinton promised them lots of financial aid
which never materialized hence the reason why
they're falling to pieces right now.
Tia: you see the issue? Bill Clinton hoped to fix
the problems with money and as you know money and
fixing problems doesnít work. What it takes is hard
work by all parties involved, negotiation and a
preparedness to follow through with those
Russ: quite true.
Tia: which unfortunately in Northern Ireland has
never materialized. One side was prepared to do it,
the other side wasnít. One side was prepared to be
open and honest, the other side wasnít. Itís the
same with Palestine, one side was prepared to be
open and honest, one side was prepared to negotiate
and disarm and to actually help, the other side was
Russ: hmm, well thatís only because Israel has
nothing to lose by staying firm on what its current
Russ: they have everything to lose giving up lands
that they think theyíve rightly won.
Russ: they have no need to basically.
Tia: well itís a very tricky, tricky situation, very
Russ: well for example the town of Hebron.
the most heavily contested part of the entire West
Russ: and itís only home to 6,500 Jews compared to
200,000 Muslims......or Palestinians. Now when you
have a disparity like that, whatís the point of
staying except for to say that well itís your home?
Well itís not, itís somebody elseís home that you
got put into.
Tia: yes and no, yes and no. You again are parroting
what the press is saying.
Tia: the numbers are correct. Let us say that you
have settled in an area, you wish to live there.
Itís a quiet neighborhood, the people are well
behaved but they want you out, are you going to
leave? Youíve painted this house, you've worked in
its garden, youíve done all sorts of things around
it. Are you going to give that all up just because
the people around you want you to leave? Even though
theyíre not actually doing anything deliberately to
make you leave, theyíre just letting it known that
it would be better if you moved.
Russ: Iíd leave with a profit.
Tia: with a profit?
Tia: what if they were going to offer you the same
value that you paid for it after all the hard work
that you put in?
Russ: hmm, yeah I see your point.
Tia: uh-huh. Let us say that you got Daniel and
Daniel grew up here to the age of 10 years old,
would you leave even if they wanted to leave, would
Russ: well if it came down to the point of my life
was at stake, yes.
Tia: thatís different.
Russ: well thatís what theyíre going through there
Russ: they're lives are at stake every day.
Tia: yes and no.
Russ: their lives, their childrenís lives, their
family's lives are all at stakeÖ.
Russ: each day that they stay there.
Tia: and why are they at stake?
Russ: because people want them out of there and
theyíre willing to take any way they can to get them
out of there.
Tia: uh-huh instead of sitting down and getting to
know them and becoming friendly, inviting them into
their houses and vice a versa and getting on.
Tia: let us say the spotlight was taken off that
area, let us say that they work together......
Tia: would that happen then?
Russ: yeah probably.
Tia: yeah probably.
Russ: well thereís no telling in the Middle East.
Russ: itís not something you can say yes or no toÖ..
Russ: itís all a matter of odds and luck.
Tia: let us say that those individuals were
contributing to the community in a big way. Let us
say they own shops, some of them do. Let us say that
they own businesses, some of them do. Let us say
that in their shops and businesses they employ
people that are Palestinians and not Jewish which
Russ: right, want some water?
Tia: yes please, he seems to have an aquatic life
form in his throat.
(Tia talks to the cat again in the meantime)
Tia: thank you. You see, what was promised by Bill
Clinton but never materialized was financial aid so
that they could work together, that they could
create a environment where it was be beneficial for
all of them to be present. This never materialized.
Bill Clinton has created this problem. Let us say
that Al Gore had been elected as opposed to George
Tia: then the situation would still be the same and
the offer of financial help would still be made.
George W Bush isnít prepared to make that offer of
financial aid and even if he was prepared to he
would make sure that that money would materialize
because he is a man of his word. He will tell people
this is what I want, you work it out on how we get
there which is a good thing. He is not, and he
admits it, not particularly intelligent compared to
people like Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Their biggest
mistake is that they are intelligent and nobody else
is except for their small surrounding
intelligentsia. They did not surround themselves
with people that were as smart or if not even
smarter. George W. Bush is smart enough to realize
that he is not that smart, that the recreational
pharmaceuticals that he did
in his youth have taken their toll and have
fried brain cells so what he does is he surrounds
himself with smart people to help him. And he would
formulate, if he was to be put in this position, a
way to meet those demands, the financial backing,
the working together which is what he is good at.
Russ: hmmm, well I havenít seen Colin Powell really
doing much over there though, he is the Secretary of
State for the United States.
Tia: thatís correct, he is waiting for the
Russ: which is what?
Tia: I donít know.
Tia: we donít have the leaks that we once did. This
is a different bunch of people, this is a bunch of
people who know how to keep their mouth shut. Have
you heard the rumors coming out of the White House
Russ: not really.
Tia: did you hear the rumors coming out of the White
House before the administrative change?
Russ: that was all public knowledge at that pointÖ..
Russ: wasnít even rumors.
Tia: thatís correct, which is better?
Tia: we'll make a Republican of you yet Russ.
Russ: itíll be a long shot unless McCain came in but
I hear more rumors about the Time Warner AOL deal
than I do about the White House now.
Tia: okay now moving along to the last little bit
andÖ..oh we can leave that alone for a little while.
I was going to say certain phenomena but we'll leave
that alone for this time.
Tia: okay? Let me put on the next speaker as I seem
to be back doing the ring mistress thing.
Tia: they even told me what to wear.
(Omal joins us for his time to
Omal: greetings Russ, it has been a long, long
Omal: well not so long, long by your counting.
Russ: long by my counting, itís been a short time
for you Iím sure.
Omal: yes. Okay, let us get down to matters that are
Omal: important matters. First of all, as you might
of noticed, we continue to have technical issues
with the conference.
Russ: Iíve noticed that yes.
Omal: yes, major technical issues. Part of it was a
slight seismic shifting which disrupted everything.
Omal: we think we may have found a solution.
Russ: oh good.
Omal: a rather strange set of circumstances occurred
in a discussion recently. I was discussing with a
group of interns and we were discussing the basic
setup of the base on how they should interact and
how they should behave. An intern that I have met
frequently was present and as normal what I do is I
test and check shields and do a little bit of
probing. I knew that probing would be useless on
this individual as this individual is a prober
herself. You know who Iím talking about.
Russ: yeah, it seemed to be something that had come
up in the past.
Omal: yes and it was something that was discussed
briefly a while back.
Omal: when I started probing her shields, the first
thing that really struck me and something Iíve never
really done to her was how strong her shields are.
Omal: so I assaulted her shields deliberately using
various different techniques to distract. Still
nothing. Then, I went up a level and I got hostile
once the discussion had been dismissed, she was
requested to stay behind and I assaulted her shields
aggressively. They took a beating, they took a
battering, she was aware of what I was trying to do
and stiffened her shields. I assaulted very, very
hard, finally they crumbled. I think we have a
candidate to act as a receptacle for information
with her shields that will be more than adequate to
deal with somebody such as the representative.
Russ: excellent, well that will beat the mechanical
means we're trying.
Omal: yes, that looks like the only way that we can
do it that she will be prepped, sent in there, she
will have the information implanted into her, she
will leave and then dictate.
Russ: ahh, okay that'll work.
Omal: it is slow and cumbersome, it is not the
direct approach that we would like but it is the
best that we can go with due to the little seismic
shift, we had such a small window to work through in
creating the appropriate chamber. As soon as the
shift occurred it became next to impossible to
remedy the problem.
Omal: the upside is that the representative has had
plenty of time to do some serious dwelling and
pondering. A true Sirian at heart. She has been also
able to review a lot of data that has been sent and
given to her so that she should be more informed.
Okay, do you have any questions?
Russ: well yeah, now itís basically a point where we
go ahead and we get back toÖ
and getting everybody pretty much prepped into the
fact that we're starting up again.
Russ: so it's just merely a matter of news keeping.
Do we want to go ahead and as I was thinking is
invite Skip and Sunpar to have more of a moreÖ..?
Omal: a more active role.
Russ: a more active role, correct.
Omal: yes, very much so. What we need them to do is
to ask questions.
Russ: thatís a good idea.
Omal: what we need them to do is to try to get all
representatives to work together, question meanings,
question explanations, get it out in the open, get
away from the doubletalk. I think the Sirian
representative definitely has a disadvantage that
first of all she does not speak EnglishÖ..
Omal: secondly, she is limited in the input that is
being given to her because she has to be as neutral
Omal: some of the issues that were created early on
were very necessary to get out in the open. For
example, the Sirian representative was very confused
by the fact that Alloya
will talk as a channel and as herself, that was very
confusing for her.
Russ: yeah, that's confusing for everyone. You have
to basically interpret yourself just whoís talking
Omal: correct which was one of her confusing points
that she picked up almost immediately that it was
one person but speaking in two contexts.
Omal: one as a channeler or information channeled
and one as a third dimensional being. It definitely
very much confused her.
Russ: well unfortunately though thatís kind of the
norm down here, we have a bit more of the un-norm.
Omal: I am aware that but it was very difficult for
the representative to comprehend this. It made it
difficult for her to read what was being said.
Russ: okay. Well we just have to know sheís got that
under control, she knows what to expect.....
Omal: Bunny will help her. For Bunny it is going be
very hard as well.
Russ: yeah because even though she has her shields
up she still has to keep from talking about down
Russ: Bunny has a tendency to do things that come
out of her mouth.
Omal: yes unfortunately.
Russ: so it's more of a case of watching Bunny than
watching her shields.
Omal: that will be addressed.
Omal: part of the issue or part of the agreement
with Bunny is that she comes to my office before
each time. Bunny will not be able to talk once she
goes in there, she will not be able to communicate
more than a few sentences which will be
Russ: she still has telepathy though doesn't she?
Omal: she will have telepathy that will be
Russ: oh Jesus.
Omal: in other words, she will be channeling.
Russ: and Bunny's good with this?
Omal: it is part of an agreement.
Russ: this is a lot tougher than the bracelet.
Omal: oh very much so but in return Bunny will be
learning lots of interesting things.
Russ: and sheís making some big marks for staying on
the base too.
Omal: she is also dealing with one of her
Omal: one of her addictions is not what youíre
Omal: one of her addictions is a very, very powerful
thing, very powerful. Far more powerful than you
Russ: what, fun?
Russ: oh really?
Omal: Bunny has an addiction for knowledge hence the
reason why she probes so heavily.
Omal: okay, let us move along and as we donít have a
very large group present we will continue answering
Russ: okay, you donít mind if I ask them do you?
Russ: the rest of this crowd allÖ.
Omal: well I do not think my interpretation skills
are very good when it comes to feline.
Russ: yeah and theyíre not very inquisitive either.
Okay, now as far as Tiaís stuff goes, everything
goes on the web?
Omal: pretty much so.
Russ: and how about the plane going down and her
shots that she's seen of the nose? We haven't even
got those yet.
Omal: that will become common knowledge very soon.
Omal: Iím taking a little bit of a gamble there.
Russ: all righty, it's just I spotted it right away
and it's like, "well, I better check with Omal".
Omal: that is something that she plays a game very
Russ: so pictures she's seeing, how do I interpret
Omal: by the time it goes on the web it will be
Russ: all right, weíll go that route then.
Russ: okay. Letís see, any other base activities I
should know about?
Omal: well weíve had our winter sports.
Russ: the ski races?
Omal: the ski races have been gone, we will let Kiri
Russ: okay, sounds good.
Omal: uh-huh. I will say that we have a champion
again and I am very tempted to make a command
decision to ask her to step down from doing the
downhill as she repeatedly wins and it is not good
for other people when you have somebody that
repeatedly wins at that one event.
Russ: well still, thereís always the chance she
Omal: the chances are slim to none.
Russ: well look at for example this coming up
weekend here, we have a golf tournament down here
called the Masters at Augusta....
Russ: and pretty much everybody already says of
whoís going to come in second place. They already
know whoís going to come in first which is Tiger
Woods but yet everybodyís going out there to play
Omal: okay let us extend that, let us say that Tiger
Woods had been playing for the equivalent that Lyka
has been racing in the downhill which is what, seven
Omal: let us say that he won every time he went to
Russ: well this will be his second time heís gone
and he's won it once......no, third time, he's won
Omal: okay, so he hasnít won every time that heís
Russ: good point.
Omal: Lyka just keeps getting better, it was
incredible to watch her form, to watch her speed.
She wasnít in your term .02 or .2 ahead of the
field, weíre talking 3Ĺ of your seconds.....
Omal: setting a new downhill record for speed.
Russ: well maybe they can do like a legends of
skiing and let her do an exhibition once a year.
Omal: we will see how it goes, it is something that
I have discussed with her that maybe she should give
somebody else the opportunity to mainly because
watching the downhill races, it wasnít so much for
them going through and trying to win, they were just
going through the motions.
Omal: it was sort of like, "oh well, weíre not going
to win, we'll just ski down it anyway".
Russ: yeah, I can see where that would be a bit
Omal: and the fact that she just keeps on getting
better and better.
Russ: hmm, well she still has the biathlon if
Omal: that is very acceptable.
Russ: because then sheís on a team.
Omal: that's correct, it is a team event.
Russ: okay, I can see that.
Omal: it is a hard decision to make but it is very
demoralizing if let us say every time you went to do
something you were second-best and you knew you were
going to be second-best before you even got there?
Russ: yeah, good point. Well Lyka canít feel bad
Omal: in fact it is an honor.
Russ: yeah, thatís what sheís got to look at it is
that itís an honor.
Omal: even if she stops competing in the downhill,
she has got some very heavy records that she has
Russ: was this her best yet?
Omal: most definitely.
Russ: oh well, there you go.
Omal: my suggestion was that she retires until
somebody beats her record. No sorry, I do apologize,
that was her suggestion.
Omal: it is one that I am very inclined to go with.
Russ: well that does sounds reasonable, I mean she
canít really complain too much about that.
Omal: that her record stands. The only thing that I
think would be missing is from her trophy cabinet.
You have to remember that she does not come from a
high house family.
Omal: she is the person in her family that has
achieved the most and at a tender age of 23 she has
achieved incredible feats for her family.
Russ: too bad it probably isn't appreciated more.
Omal: oh her family appreciates it tremendously.
Russ: oh really? Oh well thatís good, I didnít know
Omal: there is a lot that you do not know about
Russ: uh-huh, well definitely an impressive kind of
knowledge to know. Thank you, I appreciate the
Omal: she may be a harsh and tough captain but sheís
very, very loving.
Russ: hmm, well excellent.
Omal: and she is also still a very scared little
girl. Even though she may be fully mature, she is
still very scared and nervous.
Russ: well sheís seen more weird stuff than Iíll
Russ: or hope to see. Hmm okay, oh by the way, did
you like our setup down here? Nice to be back?
Omal: it is nice to be back, it was always a special
location for us. Very relaxing and personable, not
like some of the channeling sessions that we have
done in the years gone by.
Russ: aye, yeah this is a little bit more relaxed.
Omal: yes, this is very informal.
Russ: well thank you Omal, I appreciate your
information and your time tonight.
Omal: okay, thank you very much indeed and as was
heard on the monitoring before we started out, live
long, prosper and, Iíll be back.
(Tia returns to pass the chat to Kiri)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, I donít think of those things sometimes.
Tia: that they may go on the web.
Russ: oh yes.
Tia: and that I give away some clues sometimes.
Okay, let meÖ..choices, choices, choices. Okay, Iíll
put on the next speaker.
Tia: yeah, can you hold that one? Okay.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
(Kiri has only seconds to talk)
Russ: ahhh Kiri.
Russ: good evening.
Kiri: I asked to go onÖÖ.
(Kiri is back to offer a
Kiri: okay, first of all, I had a very interesting
regression the other afternoon. I went and saw my
counselor that I go and see every so oftenÖ..
Kiri: and we did a regression.
Russ: hmm, where to?
Kiri: my last past life, my last third dimensional
Russ: ahh third dimensional, excellent.
Russ: my favorite place.
Kiri: uh-huh, even more favorite. I had in my last
third dimensional past life some unfinished things
that I needed to do.
Kiri: and I was put in a position where I would
have considerable temptation and obviously I
Kiri: considerable temptation. I was also given
considerable hardship. It was a area that I was
very familiar with. You want to know who I was?
Russ: hmm, curious?
Kiri: curious? Youíll be even be more curious,
youíll be a little bit amused if not shocked when
I tell you who I was.
Russ: well Iím still getting over the Patton thing
so this should be fairly interesting.
Kiri: uh-huh. Patton for Lyka, no that wasnít a
Russ: well it was to me.
Kiri: I could see a lot of similarities mainly
because Mark was interested in Patton I did a
little research and I saw a lot of similarities.
Kiri: I saw the fact that Lyka was very shy. Early
on in Pattonís life he was very shy, he stuttered.
Russ: did he?
Russ: did not know that.
Kiri: a lot of similarities. Anyway, getting back
to my past life regressionÖ.
Kiri: I had as I said certain deeds that I needed
to get done, I had certain lessons I needed to
learn and I was put in the position where I would
have to face one of my worst temptations, being
having absolute power. Does that tell you what I
Russ: absolute power, royalty I assume.
Kiri: uh-huh. I would also have an effect in
things that occurred after my death because of my
position in life.
Russ: well the pharaohs were all kind of in that
Russ: I would say.
Russ: am I getting warmer?
Kiri: very warm. This Pharaoh would be deleted
from history for a long time because of the
position and because of a very important, without
giving too much away, situation.
Russ: hmm, this isnít that female Pharaoh was it?
Kiri: the one that was struck from history?
Russ: yeah right.
Kiri: that was me.
Russ: so my history isnít that bad after all.
Kiri: do you know what her name was?
Kiri: you butcher it terribly.
Russ: well okay, Iím not good on names.
Kiri: H.A.T.S.H.E....anyway it spells Hatshepsut.
Russ: Hatshepsut, that's what I mean, how am I
supposed to pronounce something like that? I got
damn close if you ask me.
Kiri: how did you pronounce it?
Russ: Hefastus or
Russ: all right, I got the H right.
Kiri: uh-huh and you got the S in there too.
Russ: yeah. So what did you learn from this? The
fact that youíre able to maintain your humbleness
no matter what your situation and position in life
Kiri: not really, that wasnít something I had to
Russ: was it being able to give up all the
material possessions that you owned?
Kiri: no, not that either. What I had to learn was
that fact that I couldnít give into my urgesÖ..
Kiri: I had to be very discreet about my urges.
Kiri: I had to fulfill my duty, my obligations. I
had to protect somebody that I did not even like,
namely my half-brother. I had to put up with the
fact of sexism in the worst form.
Russ: oh yeah.
Kiri: I had to learn to act tough.
Russ: hmm, act like a man.
Kiri: uh-huh, I had to learn control. Also it was
actually the first time that I got the opportunity
to, in all my third dimensional past lives, to
enjoy the company of the same sex.....
Kiri: mainly because I wasn't allowed to have men
although I did and I did become pregnant and I did
have a child, it had to be kept very, very quiet.
Kiri: I also had to learn how to be domineering. I
had to learn how to be tough.
Russ: well it does explain a bit.
Russ: but now at one point did you have to care
more about other people than yourself?
Kiri: I had to learn that even though everybody
was responsible to me, I had to be responsible to
Russ: what about the slavery issue?
Kiri: a lot of the slaves were actually very
willing to be slaves.
Kiri: uh-huh, especially the house slaves. They
were taken care of, they were well-fed, they were
given every amenity that you could think of. They
had it a lot better than a lot of the
non-peasants.......non-slaves. They had a roof
over their head, they had clothing, all's they had
to do was behave themselves.
Russ: and do their jobs.
Kiri: and do their jobs. They had food, they had
time off where they could relax and gather and
have fun, I didnít have any of that as Pharaoh.
Russ: hmm, and as you were theÖÖyou were actually
Russ: or goddess in this case.
Kiri: no, I was a God.
Russ: God, thatís right because youíre male, then
you had to have decrees and so forthÖ.
Russ: and how did youÖÖ..did you learn how to deal
justly with the your decrees as with the
Kiri: yes, I had to very careful on what I
Russ: well thatís good.
Kiri: there were times where I wanted something so
badly that I was prepared to make a decree to get
Kiri: and there are a few times that I did make a
decree to go and get things, expeditions as they
were called, down into deep Nubia to get things.
Russ: and did you get to travel much at all in
Kiri: didnít have as much freedom as you would
Russ: now is this still the time of Alexandria?
Kiri: oh this is way before then.
Russ: way before Alexandria?
Russ: oh, so weíre still talking Thebes.
Kiri: uh-huh. Now, there was a time where Thutmose
III, was it Thutmose III? Anyway, yes it was. He
had married and he had produced a son and I was
given the opportunity to set in motion events that
would happen with Thutmose IIIís grandson,
Kiri: his son being Amenhotep III. Amenhotep IV
followed through on something that I was trying to
do and this was towards the end of my reign. With
Amenhotep III, I had long discussions, long
discussions, made him very freethinking much to
his fatherís disgust which led to a whole load of
problems right at the end of my reign due to some
very unwelcome dietary supplements but it was an
experiment that unfortunately failed. It was taken
further than was anticipated and everything but
that wasnít a karmic comeback or feedback or
anything because I had learned my karmic lessons
that I needed to advance to this level at that
Russ: hmm, interesting. And you had no tomb if I
Kiri: yes I had a tomb.
Russ: was it a really good one?
Kiri: uh-huh, it wasnít completed though.
Russ: oh, okay. Well I knew there were some
circumstances......see this this changes my whole
viewpoint to that particular Pharaoh because I
always thought the circumstances that brought her
to power were rather unusual and I saw her as a
power-hungry manipulator who got what she wanted
through force and coercion.
Kiri: yes there was coercion used. The thing was
that I absolutely adored my father......
Russ: hmm, thatís good.
Kiri: and my half-brother at first I adored him
but he was very different.
Russ: so how is it that she ended up being the
ruler or yourself and not him?
Kiri: partly because of hisÖ..he had tendencies
like I did but the other way.
Kiri: he also loved to fight, he loved to fight.
Russ: so not very ruler wise.
Kiri: no. He helped to increase the Empire, he
made the Empire quadruple in size.
Russ: wow, thatís an impressive stat.
Russ: hmm, well thatís an important life you lived
then, something that indeed had a lot of
temptations and a lot of lessons to be learned.
Russ: Iím not sure I could have handled it as well
as you did.
Kiri: whether or not I handled it well, history
that you read differs from what I know.
Russ: right, well thatís normal.
Kiri: uh-huh. There were some things I made very,
very big mistakes at early on whilst I was
learning that I could not have the bedfellows that
I wanted and was being pushed to experimenting
with other options. Things didn't happen as I
planned, I thought I was being very clever and
discreet and I wasnít.
Kiri: which led to a lot of snickering behind
hands and almost a feeling of dread whenever I
would go to do my regal functions.
Russ: well yeah, I mean look at the way you had to
Kiri: it was a little uncomfortable.
Russ: oh, all bound up and everything?
Russ: very uncomfortable.
Kiri: actually it was very, very uncomfortable at
Russ: yep, that I can see. Well thank you Kiri,
thatís an impressive and interesting sideline I
had not even thought of.
Kiri: and if you look at some of the statues, I
become more and more masculine towards the end of
my reign, I had to be.
Russ: well the beard was a good idea.
Kiri: well that was something that ended where
very much only for state occasions.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: and I had such beautiful hair early on as
well. I had to learn to do away with that as well.
Okay, I got to go and empty my bladderÖ.
Kiri: and deal with my urges.
Russ: enjoy and have fun and weíll talk to you
(Tia now hands us over to Karra)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, last speaker.
(Karra reflects on a past life
of her own)
Russ: hello my love.
Karra: hi sweetie. OkayÖ.
Russ: interesting, your sisterís regression thereÖ
Russ: I had no idea.
Karra: it was something that I enjoyed hearing
Russ: well in one sense like I say it does explain
Karra: uh-huh. I see it more as a reward, reward
and final tests.
Russ: hmm, have you gone through your past life
Russ: on third?
Russ: and you got through your test obviously
Russ: similar challenges though?
Karra: itís not always the way that your last past
life youíre given a position of authority,
sometimes itís a real easy past life. Itís just
tying up loose ends, little loose ends. Sometimes
itís great trauma, sometimes you have everything
taken away and itís that giving up, you're not
actually having things taken away, youíre giving
Russ: so you learn from the ability to give on how
Karra: yes and itís the same with healing that you
have to learn to give of yourself. When you heal
you give of yourself. Any healer, whether they are
practicing third dimensional medicine using
scalpels or their mind or herbs give of
themselves. They give of their heart for healing.
Doctors, they give of themselves.
Karra: certainly they get rewarded very well
financially but they give of themselves and thatís
what healing is about is helping others and to
help somebody you do give of yourself.
Russ: uh-huh. So part of yourself goes with each
healing you might say?
Karra: yes, very much so. Certainly if itís not
something that you have easy access to, learning
the knowledge is rewarded sometimes fiscally,
sometimes by a simple thank you, sometimes other
ways but the healing process is the same
regardless. There are certainly people that do it
just for the fiscal reward but thatís not
everything, thatís just not part of it for some
people. Some people itís actually helping and the
caring and all healers do care deeply about their
Russ: well if you go into it as your financial
reward, at some point youíre going to have to face
the people youíre dealing with.
Karra: thatís correct.
Russ: and youíll have to make some decisions
morally about how youíre going to deal with them.
Karra: uh-huh. Healing itself is very satisfactory
that you take something that is sick and you make
It doesn't matter if you're using as you say on
your planet spiritual meansÖ
Karra: or physical means, what matters is that you
tried to help and that you have succeeded. Of
course you donít always succeed and you take those
lessons and learn from them. For example, let us
take a young lady that suffered from several forms
of different cancer: cervical cancer,
endometriosis, melanoma cancer and what we did for
(Ed note: a past guest, Carrie)
Karra: that was very, very rewarding and what we
created was a healing program that not only healed
her but made her feel wonderful as well. It gave
her something that she thought she would never
have the opportunity to have.
Karra: now you have some very powerful healing
tools that are starting to come back and Iím not
referring to your own, Iím referring to your ones
in your garden.
Russ: the herbs?
Karra: the herbs themselves, yes.
Russ: yeah, they are starting to make a comeback.
Karra: uh-huh and youíve got a lot of work to do
to get it back even better than it was.
Russ: weíre doing the work.
Karra: oh yes you are.
Russ: we are doing the work, it's coming along
Karra: my little sister made you two promise
something a while back and she did the right
thing. At the time I was shaking my head and
going, "no donít do this Kiri" but Kiri sometimes
sees things clearer than anybody including Tia.
Karra: and I think what she did was very brave, at
the time I thought very foolish but I donít think
Russ: well, Kiri always has an insight thatís rare
Karra: uh-huh. Sometimes she worries me when she
does things that she seems to think of on the spur
the moment. I envy her sometimes, her
connectiveness to the spiritual world as well as
the physical. From what I remember of my mother,
sheís very much like my mother and then very much
like my grandmother or our grandmother.
Russ: I would say the long association with your
grandmother really's rubbed off.
Karra: she was always like that.
Karra: a little aloof as a little girl, she was
always a little aloof, always in her own world at
times where she would say some of the strangest of
things, some of the damnedest of things but they
always seemed to be the right thing later on, you
Karra: and even though sheís not a healer, it
would help to heal and when our mother was very,
very sick in her last year or two, she would often
sit with our mother and say some of the damnedest
of things. For example there was a time where she
said, ďyouíll be gone soon and youíll be happy and
we'll all be happyĒ. Allís I could think of was
how wrong that could be to say something like that
that we would be happy that sheís gone. But when
it came time for her to go and it became to the
point where we were cleaning her bed and we would
have to clean her because she couldn't get out of
bed and she would soil the bed and try not to soil
the bed and then she finally passed away, it was,
"Iím glad that sheís out of there". And I thought
about what my sister said, even though sheís not a
healer, she heals. Iím glad sheís not a healer, I
donít think she could control the healing,
Russ: yeah, itís a powerful war of two different
Karra: uh-huh. I watch Bunny sometimes and she
fights it, she fights it hard. They both war with
each other. When she healed Leah and Lyka of their
animosity towards each other, she paid a very dear
Russ: well we watched it big time in the
Karra: uh-huh, she paid a very, very dear price
and she blended the two together very well but she
didnít protect herself. And thatís another thing
with healing that you have to protect yourself.
Russ: well she almost healed like she didnít care,
about herself I mean.
Karra: that was part of the problem, thatís what
caused the problem was that she did the healing
but she didnít care about protecting herself.
Russ: right, it was secondhand to the more
important thing of actually completing the
Karra: but who heals the healer if the healer
Russ: well, I donít think she was thinking that
Karra: no she wasnít and thatís part of being
Karra: she saw the opportunity to heal somebody,
she knew both of them intimately, she knew both of
them better than they knew themselves and she
could make it better, she could make it better and
she wanted to make it better.
Russ: well sheís come a long way.
Russ: but like I say, with that past life, it
really helps understand a lot.
Karra: oh, about my sister? Yes.
Russ: and Bunny too, Bunnyís got a lot of
potential sheís going to discover as she goes
Russ: and she's still so young, sheís still got so
much to go. I mean we're dealing with so many
young people up there whoíve already done so much
and have so much left to go.
Russ: so itís really neat to be a part of that.
Karra: it is and itís young people. Out of all the
people in channeling sessions, thereís only Bunny
and Lyka and Tia that are younger than you. Kiriís
Russ: yeah I know but I mean in theÖ
Karra: Sirian side.
Russ: Sirian sense of young, I mean theyíre pretty
Russ: I mean no, compared to me yeah, I already
know what's going on there but yeah, in the Sirius
sense they're very young and they have a lot left
Karra: uh-huh oh yes.
Russ: so itís kind of interesting to see where
that's all going to go to.
Karra: uh-huh. Hmm okay, we have what, 10 minutes?
Russ: about five.
Karra: about five. Okay, tell you what, Iím going
to put on the last speaker.
Karra: there was actually going to be two more
speakers, one that was supposed to go on before
them........well where Kiri went on, unfortunately
because of the lateness of the session he's sound
asleep. Heís actually crashed out in Bunnyís tent.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay, catch you again.
Russ: thank you my love.
(Tia hands off to the last speaker of the night)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, last speaker.
Tia: thatís why I went, oops.
(Bunny wraps up the channeling
Bunny: yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yoÖ..yo.
Russ: hi Bunny.
Russ: lots of conversations about you tonight.
Bunny: uh-huh, so I hear, so I hear. Iíve been
offered a job.
Russ: have you now?
Bunny: uh-huh, Iím going to take it.
Russ: well good for you.
Bunny: I donít like the idea of not being able to
Bunny: just being a witness and being programmed,
I donít like that at all.
Russ: no. Hmm, youíll be a more like a tape
recorder than you'll be most anything else.
Bunny: uh-huh but, I learn from itÖ
Russ: thatís true.
Bunny: because I have all that information to look
at whenever I want and to study it and to figure
Bunny: also I get to see this mysterious
Russ: well, itís a rare opportunity, I'm glad
you're taking it.
Russ: you'll certainly help out get this whole
thing back on track again and I appreciate it.
Bunny: youíre welcome. Iíve never even seen her,
Iíve asked around, I know of two people that have
seen her and they wonít tell me. I could get it
out of one of them but that wouldn't be
Russ: no, Karra?
Bunny: but now I get to see her, thatís one of the
other reasons I took it.
Russ: well congratulations, I hope youíre up for
the task my dear.
Russ: I know itís going to be tough on you.
Bunny: itís going to be fun.
Russ: well good.
Russ: youíre going to be on the base for a long
Bunny: oh, for a few years.
Russ: so I understand your great, great, great,
great, great, great uncle is sleeping in your tent
Russ: oh gee.
Bunny: uh-huh, heís got his snake as a pillow and
Lipidus on his chest although Lipidus
I don't think is going to be around much longer.
Bunny: his whiskers are drooping and his ears are
long and floppy.
Russ: getting up there in rabbit years huh?
Bunny: uh-huh. It only seems like the first time
that I arrived that he was in his prime.
Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior.
Russ: heís being a typical rabbit.
Russ: well good, plenty of people to keep him
Bunny: oh yeah.
Russ: well excellent. So how have you been doing,
have your studies been going well?
Bunny: I have been actually distracted this week.
Russ: why, whatís up?
Bunny: well you heard about the intern meetingÖ.
Bunny: there was a guy and a girl that were very
much appealing to my more baser instincts.
Bunny: so we had some fun for a day.
Russ: well good.
Bunny: uh-huh and then I had each of them again
the following afternoon separately.
Bunny: uh-huh. So Iíve been a little distracted
Russ: well still, youíre in much better form than
you were last week, Iím very happy to see that.
Bunny: you.....thatís fun, thatís mutual fun.
Russ: that's up there, down here, people have a
weird sense about this stuff. Thatís why I donít
see howÖÖ..this must be a great training ground to
get to sixth dimension because you have to be able
to transcend all the physical, mental and
spiritual morals that go along with third
Russ: itís very difficult.
Bunny: I donít think so. I mean youíve got to
understand that sex is sex. Cats have sex, dogs
have sex, birds have sex, fish have sex, everybody
is having sex, even single-celled organisms are
having sex so whatís so big about that?
Russ: well they don't call it sex, they call it
Russ: well, only the human species calls it sex.
Bunny: how do you know what cats call it?
Russ: I canít see them calling it sex. Iíll have
to ask Tia about that one sometime.
Bunny: hmm, you might. But sex, whatís the big
deal about it?
Russ: well now youíve had bond mates havenít you?
Bunny: in the past lives yes.
Russ: what about this life?
Bunny: Iím hardly old enough Russ.
Russ: oh please, I mean yeah youíre not old enough
but youíve have deep, spiritual and physical
relationships donít you?
Bunny: not yet.
Bunny: mainly becauseÖ.
Russ: that surprises me actually.
Russ: well because out of everybody I know, you
have the most opportunity for such. Youíre more
open and willing toÖ..
Bunny: let somebody enter me?
Russ: or just go met somebody. Even if itís not
for sex, youíre willing to go walk up to somebody
at a table, you're willing to just say, "hi, how
Russ: and a lot of people are more shy than that.
You have to admit, even on sixth dimension, people
are more shy than that.
Bunny: thatís because Iím not sane.
Russ: oh please, there we go with that sane thing
again. What's not sane about being open-minded and
openhearted with people?
Bunny: would you walk up to a total stranger and
say, ďhi, how you doing?Ē
Russ: happens all the time down here. Would I do
Russ: yeah, Iíve done it before.
Bunny: yeah but you're usually after something.
Russ: well yeah.
Bunny: Iím not.
Bunny: doesnít matter if I have sex with them or
Bunny: Iíve had more partners than the one that
you used to have here, both male and female.
Russ: right. Yeah, which is why I would wonder why
it never turned into anything a little more
Bunny: because thereís not the connectiveness
Russ: out of all those people, you didn't find
anyone with that connectiveness?
Bunny: you donít know what I mean by that connectiveness.
Russ: well probably it's a sixth dimensional connectiveness youíre talking
about I canít comprehend.
Bunny: yes. It is a linking not only of bodies but
of minds too and itís more than just the sharing
of the experience, itís something that accelerates
my response. It stops me from controlling my
Russ: yeah but you havenít had that experience,
how do you know what the difference is? How can
you compare it?
Bunny: because I can think back on my past lives.
Russ: youíre not old enough to.
Bunny: how many times have you've got to be told
that super operants are almost likeÖÖÖsub-super
operants are almost like super operants? They have
access to their past lives from the get-go, so do
Russ: oh, wellÖ
Bunny: some of us do anyway.
Russ: I was going to say, I donít think itís a
Bunny: no itís not and the unfortunate thing is
the more off-center you are, the more unbalanced
you are, the easier the access is to the past
Bunny: my psycho mother's sister has full access,
I have about 80% access......
Bunny: and from past lives I can tell you that
those special ones, I lose that control, that
muscle control that I have.
Russ: are you looking forward to that now in this
Bunny: uh-huh. I know what happens, I donít know
Bunny: I havenít found that yet.
Russ: hmm, well all the best to you.....
Russ: I do look forward to hearing when you do
Bunny: thatís why Iíve got to sample everything.
(that gets Russ laughing)
Russ: well admittedly, youíve got more chances
than anybody else that I know of to get that final
What happens when you do though? I mean I know
youíre not going to swear off sex, youíll still
enjoy it much as anybodyÖ..
Russ: but are you going to haveÖ..?
Bunny: am I going to become into a monogamous
relationship? Very unlikely.
Russ: very unlikely, youíre right.
Bunny: uh-huh because I do enjoy sex.
Bunny: I like silk.
Russ: these the ones that Kiri got you?
Bunny: no, they're my own.
Bunny: I won't tell you how I got them.
Russ: these are from Earth arenít they?
Russ: if I remember the story?
Bunny: itís a different set.
Russ: oh a different set?
Russ: hmm, well good deal.
Russ: no silkworms on Hades Base?
Bunny: not on Hades Base no, earth silkís highly
prized you know.
Russ: that's good to know then.
Bunny: it was definitely worth getting down for.
Bunny: anyway, where was I? Sex, sex, sex,
Russ: sanity and sex.
Bunny: sanity and sex, you got to be a little
insane to do some of things that I enjoy.
Russ: yeah but at the same time it is something
Russ: so you do have fun and whoís to say that
thatís right or being sane and not having fun is
Bunny: if ever I have my mind fixed and I learn
not to blab, then I wonít be me......
Russ: thatís right.
Bunny: because my insanity is part of who I am.
Russ: and it's at best a mild insanity, one thatís
Bunny: for the time being. Put it this way, I
wonítÖ..my intelligence will grow, my body will
finish growing but my maturity wonít.
Russ: well youíve already impressed Omal more than
Iíve heard him be impressed with most people.
Bunny: thatís part of my insanity, having shields
Russ: is that what that is?
Bunny: itís also growing up with the family that I
grew up with.
THE TAPE ENDS