(Tia starts us on a very unusual
night of channeling)
Tia: okay, down to business. Okay, now there are a
few things to clear up from last week, okay? One of
them is manipulating energy.
Tia: okay? Which comes with practice. Also, we will
discuss that after Ashtar has his two pence worth.
Okay, now this is an unusual channeling session for
the simple reason that there is only Ashtar and
Russ: that's unusual.
Tia: very unusual. And also the fact that it's
starting very early whilst it's still bright and
shiny out there.
Russ: it is kind of.
Tia: uh-huh, so that's two unusual things. Okay, now
you have questions for me? I believe we were going
to work on something else. I'm trying to remember
but I can't. Oh, Kiri designs.
Tia: oh. I like that one.
Russ: I like that one there.
Tia: hmm, so do I.
Russ: I like this one very well.
Tia: which one?
Russ: this one.
Tia: yeah, I've got one similar to that one as well,
but that one there is by far my favorite. To those
who are just listening, bikini designs by Kiri.
Russ: and signed by her also.
Tia: uh-huh. What's the name underneath? Ahh.
Russ: Lady Karra.
Tia: Lady Karra, huh?
Russ: okay, now, I assume the Egyptians had the
first cats as a domestic animal.
Tia: uh-huh. In fact, you have one of the
first.....well descendant of one of the first cats
in your house.
Russ: oh, Monga.
Tia: try again.
Russ: what, Calvin?
Russ: the dominant one up there?
Tia: yes. Do you know what she is?
Tia: she's an Egyptian Mau. Purebred.
Russ: no way.
Tia: uh-huh. More purebred than that one up there.
Tia: that's a Russian blue. Egyptian Mau are very
Tia: uh-huh. She has all the characteristics of a
close breeding gene pool.
Russ: too bad she's spayed.
Tia: there would be a lot of money in her if she
was......wasn't but she's too old now. Much too old
but she's a purebred. Mark doesn't know how much of
a purebred she is. I've talked to her, she knows.
Russ: hmm, okay. That's a good subject, how do you
mean she knows? How would she know for example?
Tia: she's not so much of a dummy as you think she
Russ: well, that's why am asking so I can be
Tia: Joey is a very operant cat.
Russ: okay, why does she hide it so well?
Tia: because she is not sure of it. She doesn't know
how to use it properly. She's a coercer, mind you,
all cats are coercers but she's got hers well
developed. Notice how she wraps everybody underneath
Russ: if you can ever get close to the kitty.
Tia: uh-huh, that's part of not being sure.
Russ: oh, I see.
Tia: uh-huh. She astral travels.
Russ: that's right.
Tia: uh-huh. She doesn't come up here very often for
the simple reason she scared of here.
Russ: well none of the cats beat up on her.
Tia: no, they leave her alone which is what she
Russ: I take it she follows Mark up?
Tia: sometimes, but she scared of it. The best way
to describe it is she will come up here about once a
month maybe twice a month and that's normally when
Mark is at work and unfortunately it's always around
about the same sort of time which is around about 3
o'clock and guess who's coming back to earth at that
Tia: uh-huh, so she misses him and she wanders
around the base looking for him and who does she
have wrapped around her little finger?
Tia: or her little claw?
Russ: must be Alzheimer's syndrome or something.
Tia: what do you mean?
Russ: cat Alzheimer's. Well she always seems to be
at a loss for words.
Tia: she doesn't talk much.
Russ: no, but I mean she's just doesn't.....I mean,
you look at the other three cats here and see.......
Tia: she was an abused kitten.
Russ: she was?
Tia: and unfortunately Mark's father wasn't very
nice to her at the last period that she was in the
Napa Valley. Which was understandable because he
wanted her to be more attached to Mark and she
already was but he didn't realize that.
Tia: uh-huh. Well it was his way of trying to make
Russ: well anyway, you were going to discuss with me
some political stuff.
Tia: oh yes, that's right, yeah, okay.
Russ: and so........
Tia: we'll do it in two parts like we did last time.
Tia: okay? Let us proceed with the first part.
Russ: all right. Yeah?
Tia: I was waiting for you to ask a question.
Russ: oh, well I thought you were going to give me a
Tia: okay, I give you a statement.
Russ: and then I can ask you a question.
Tia: okay. Now, assuming that the current president
Tia: which has been added into my calculations, then
the following things may occur, right?
Tia: we've already had two assassination attempts
that you are aware of.
Russ: on who?
Tia: on your current president.
Russ: oh, two?
Russ: I didn't know one.
Tia: while there was the guy that hosed the White
House down with a machine gun.
Russ: I don't count that.
Tia: no, that was aimed at the president, that was
an assassination attempt.
Russ: I thought you were talking about the plane
Tia: that is the other one.
Tia: which reminds me of a little joke which I have
already told you so I'm not gonna tell you.
Tia: right. Now, assuming that he is reelected,
right? Which will be in two years, then the crash
that we have predicted will start to occur but it
won't really take effect until a year after he's
been elected. So the downward slide, assuming that
he is reelected, will occur at the predicted rate.
Now, if a Republican such as Dole is elected, then
the curve also occurs because of the transitional
period from a Democrat president to a Republican
Russ: ahh, I see.
Tia: but there will be a slightly extended period
before the slide occurs. But, it would be more acute
due to the fact of the polarization of the ethnic
Russ: uh-huh. Polarization can mean what?
Tia: what does polarization mean?
Russ: separating people into groups?
Tia: correct. You could say it would be a
self-inflicted apartheid. A little bit like children
at school have a self-inflicted apartheid but gender
Russ: now if Clinton is reelected.....
Russ: okay? Even if he is not reelected, I'm going
to assume that up until the point of the election,
the economy is going to be kept falsely propped
Russ: to show that there is no instability until
after the election in which case they could no
longer maintain that facade.
Tia: correct. That is one of the things that is
occurring at the moment is the economy is being
propped up. It is evident in several fields. One is
the economic current boom, that is the most obvious
one. The other one is in economic growth. If you
look at it very carefully you will see
Russ: I'm seeing fluctuations.
Tia: you'll see discrepancies in how they gather and
analyze the data.
Russ: hmm, I see. Now, how about with the fact
that.....I mean, with you're saying like say
Russ: without regard to its backing......
Russ: would be another sign of them propping up the
financial situation until they can no longer
Tia: correct. Now there's a very nasty thing that
occurs when you do this and that is that when you
print money without any backing it's worthless.
Russ: yeah, but only if it's discovered.
Tia: no, it is worthless because it will be
discovered. There's no if. It is when would be
discovered and as we know that's occurring, is it
Russ: I don't know. But one of us does and now two
of us do.
Tia: uh-huh. And three of you do.
Russ: and three of us do.
Tia: which is a fact that I should be careful about
spreading because you could get into a lot of
trouble. "Where does this information coming from,
how do you know?"
Russ: well we don't have much luck with spreading
too much information.
Tia: no, because you're both very cautious about it.
Now, when you reach the stage of printing money that
is worthless, right? Can you tell me when was the
last time that happened?
Russ: my mind's sure not too good on financial
matters as far as dates and everything. I do know it
Russ: when they were trying to prop up the peso.
Tia: no, there is a place where it happened on a
Russ: oh, that would be, hold on a second.
Tia: you want a clue?
Tia: what's that ticking noise?
Russ: it's the.....
Tia: oh, I thought it might be your brain.
Russ: it would be Russia.
Tia: no. Give you a clue on where it happened on a
vast scale, 1919.
Tia: no. Brought down a country.
Tia: yes, I was about to say.....
Russ: the mark.
Tia: correct. I was about to say, here's a clue.
Tia: now, hopefully your country won't be as
foolhardy to do that. Because if that occurs, right?
You are talking about a major, major domino effect.
Russ: now didn't that happen due to the fact that
there was a change in government because of the end
of the war and the government then in power at that
point was financially mature and didn't know I
enough about the solution to all their problems was
to just merely printing money?
Tia: partly. The other part of the reason was that
having just lost a war, how much money did they have
in their Bundistbank?
Russ: they had to pay war damages and stuff.
Tia: correct. Now, there is a little bit of
Russ: between now and then?
Russ: between the US and Germany?
Russ: this would be concerning the deficit.
Russ: not the deficit, the budget.
Russ: the only war we've really been through is the
Tia: it is a correlation of money, not war.
Russ: I see.
Tia: the bank of Germany was paying war debts,
Tia: your country, what is it doing to help the
Russ: it's paying out.......
Tia: masses of amount of money in aid to countries
that they have no hope of getting the money back
Russ: well that's because they're apparently, if I
read it right....
(Tia scolds the cat)
Tia: stop that.
Russ: helping to prop up certain governments that
are friendly to the U.S.
Tia: correct. And what's it doing to your bank? It's
draining it of money. So you see, there isn't as
much of the hard stuff around as people would like
to think it is.
Russ: well we went off the gold standard I
Russ: and our money is currently backed by our good
words, isn't it?
Tia: yeah, basically.
Russ: okay, so basically yeah, we are printing money
to help out other countries......
Russ: maintainer status.
Russ: now, here's the other part of it though. Were
we not to do so.....
Russ: those governments would fall.
Russ: in their place would be an unstable government
that could lead to the fall of other governments.
Russ: therefore it's a catch 22.
Tia: correct. You're damned if you do and you're
damned if you don't.
Tia: now here is something else which is a little
bit scary. What is propping up your economy?
Russ: at present it is our exports.
Tia: sorry to burst your bubble, it's not.
Russ: it's not our imports, that's for sure.
Tia: the other thing that would be propping it
Tia: I'll give you a clue, Mark's very proud of it,
or one of the parts of it.
Russ: the British pound?
Tia: no, but you're getting close. The British pound
is part of it. Foreign investors.
Russ: oh, investors in America.
Tia: that's right.
Russ: hmm, okay. And were they do fall.....
Russ: we definitely would not like that.
Tia: that's right.
Russ: but if that money that they are investing
isn't staying in America.....
Tia: it's coming into America and it's doing a big
loop like this.
Tia: you see? There's a way to reduce your deficit.
Tia: but it's not used like that.
Russ: increase taxes on them?
Tia: no. Keep the taxes exactly the same....
Russ: oh, instead of raising the tariffs, raising
Tia: that's right.
Russ: yeah, but at the same time, they see Japan as
taking American money out of the country.....
Russ: and sending in Japanese goods.
Russ: well there's always that belief.....
Russ: that we are losing the war again.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: only this time it's a trade war.
Tia: that's right.
Russ: well, I suppose if Germany was investing
heavily in America it would be the same thing.
Tia: no, because they are.
Russ: they are?
Russ: not as heavily.
Tia: no, not as heavily. The biggest investor is a
British Corporation, the biggest single investor.
Tia: anyway, right? Going to put on the boss.
Tia: the boss man.
honors us with his presence)
Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.
Russ: greetings Ashtar.
Ashtar: it is an honor and a pleasure to be present.
Russ: it's an honor to have you here. We haven't
heard from you in a while, I'm glad you're finally
back talking to me.
Ashtar: there are a few matters I need to discuss.
Ashtar: two weeks ago, you were having dinner I
believe at a place of circular crusts......crust
Russ: ahh, a pizza place.
Ashtar: yes, a matter was brought up concerning Mark
and his past in Great Britain.....
Ashtar: and how it is affecting at present.
Ashtar: this was something that you did not need to
know, unfortunately you do know. The question is, do
you understand why he did what he did?
Ask: what do you not understand?
Russ: mostly what his......why would he do such a
thing? It doesn't seem like it would make sense.
Ashtar: you know what I am referring to, do you not?
He informed you that he was a hunter. Thus it is
necessary for you to understand why he did what he
did in connection with a gentleman in Reno and the
reason why he did it.
Russ: well I have had a few moral problems about
Ashtar: the hunters are a very unique psychic
individual. They pay extremely high prices for what
they do. In Mark's case, it is an oath that was
broken that he has now paid in this life as opposed
to the life that he broke his oath. So it is
necessary for him to pay the highest price. If he
does not learn the importance of keeping an oath, he
cannot proceed to the next level of learning. So
therefore it is necessary for him to learn and
understand the importance of keeping an oath.
Russ: and a lot of that is in part why he has the
abilities he has.
Ashtar: correct. It is the final thing of his
Russ: but it also requires a lot of burning.
Ashtar: correct, and they considerable amount of
self-control. A hunter normally goes two ways. They
burn incredibly bright for short periods of time and
then they sink back down into a normal mode which
for some of them is very bright but is dull for what
they are normally. Others, will lean the other way.
They will become corrupt with their power.
Ashtar: so they walk a very narrow path.
Russ: do they also burn as bright?
Ashtar: they burn brighter.
Russ: but do they burn out shorter then or do they
maintain that brightness?
Ashtar: they maintain that brightness because the
power that they have is corrupted.
Russ: they walk along the gray side.
Ashtar: no, they do not walk on the gray side.....
Russ: they walk on the black side.
Ashtar: they descend into the black trouble.
Russ: then why would they not burn up even brighter
than those who walk on the white side?
Ashtar: because they burn longer.
Russ: are they being propped up then?
Russ: I understand. Okay, and currently Mark is
burning very bright.
Ashtar: correct. He will sink back down into a lower
level and eventually. He will continue his normal
level of astral travel which is still being able to
D-jump but he will not be as hyper and as nervous as
he has been.
Russ: I see. Is there a certain age that this
happens at or is it just certain experiences
Ashtar: it works in a cycle. When he was in his
native country he burned brightly for a short period
of time and then was temporarily dimmed his
executive body and his physical and mental being
would rejuvenate itself.
Ashtar: and this is the pattern that it does. Fight
hard if they fight hard, they pay a very high price,
they sink back down into a normal level, rejuvenate,
wait, practice, and again do what is necessary. They
are a very strange bunch of individuals but they are
prepared to take on and keep the fabric correct. Not
to cause destruction but to protect those that need
protecting. But they cannot protect them unless they
are requested to do so. Even by an outside force.
Ashtar: they will also try to right the wrong.
Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't. And
when all else fails, and I know this sounds like
something from your entertainment, when it loses all
that it is meant to be, then there is only one thing
Russ: uh-huh. So their power is basically focused on
those who either are corrupt versions of themselves
or those who for example this case we're talking
about harm innocents.
Ashtar: correct, any innocents. Whether it is a
feline, you on something you do not know about, or a
Russ: you can't break the pattern.
Russ: so, Omal and I were talking about how Mark's
abilities would eventually, if they were to keep
going at the rate they're going, reach past speed of
Russ: with his burning the way it is, is that....
Ashtar: that is not affected.
Russ: that's not affected.
Ashtar: it is his physical third dimensional,
spiritual third dimensional itself.
Russ: I understand. Is that include then health
problems later on?
Ashtar: yes, that is one of the prices they pay. As
I said, it is a very high price they pay. The best
way to describe them is they protect you from the
Russ: I assume that I haven't had to go through this
Ashtar: no. It is a very few individuals that are
prepared in their waiting period for the pride of
paying that price. Now let us change the subject to
something less thoughtful. Your questions please.
Russ: okay, moving to the lighter side for the first
time, Mark and I had a question about chain of
command in Ashtar Command and as I assumed it, it
went Sananda, yourself, Korton.....
Ashtar: your guess was quite correct, it is a gray
area that we cannot discuss.
Russ: oh, okay. Alrighty, moving on to other things
then. Okay, first off, as you know, Omal and myself
have been busy a lot lately with future events here
on earth and the repercussions and consequences that
may need to be focused on......
Ashtar: question please.
Russ: man is a survivor and he has shown that he can
grow in the face of adversity.
Ashtar: the question please.
Russ: okay. Will the event in your opinion trigger a
mass need for people to go within themselves and
bring themselves to operancy?
Ashtar: eventually yes.
Russ: this is where we can help them?
Ashtar: correct. Have you noticed that there are
more to say of you out there?
Russ: yes I have and growing on a daily basis.
Ashtar: there is your answer, find them, teach them,
but teach them carefully.
Russ: all right. Will the upcoming event spread to
the rest of the world?
Russ: okay. Now, I've noticed that despite a
television show called sightings, show concern UFO
activity, there's been less now than in the 60s. Is
this due to the psychological benefits gained then
and not necessary now or is it just that you guys
doing a really great job?
Ashtar: both. Our new vessels are doing a good job
and, the psychological effect is that people still
have the disbelief factor. People are wiser and no
longer go around saying, "yes, I saw a UFO", because
people will laugh at them. Is that not the case?
Russ: in general, yes. So people are actually taking
more to stock of things like channelings and......?
Ashtar: they are becoming more spiritually open.
Russ: so this represents from yourself and Ashtar
Command a change of policy from before where it was
sightings and now it's information?
Ashtar: it is still both.
Russ: so it's just the sightings aren't really
Ashtar: people are being more closed mouthed about
Russ: I see. Gaining more insight personally.
Russ: okay. All right, I had a question concerning a
record keeper crystal that you have there. And I
wanted to find out real quick is to find out the
information from that, you place the pyramids on the
face to your third eye?
Russ: okay. Now, in dealing with human growth
cycles, I wanted to find out what it is, do we grow
in spurts of years in general or is it a individual?
Ashtar: it is an individual basis that looks like in
years. For example, young children will grow in
spurts from age 5 to 7 and then from 9 to 12 and
then again from 15 to 18. And then it slows down and
then stops altogether. Spiritually, it follows a
very similar path that you will grow in spurts.
Russ: hmm. And it also depends then on experiences
that you've held that determine those growth spurts.
Russ: all right, one more section I wanted to deal
with real quickly and that is the three great ages
of earth. In researching this I saw that one was the
Bella Marion age in which we saw development of mind
and matter in the third dimension and I was
wondering does that represent then the spirit phase
Russ: okay. The second was the Atlantean in which we
saw technology and psychic ability advanced and I
wondered if I had the correct meaning of the light
Ashtar: close enough.
Russ: okay. And then the last is the one we've seen
in the past 4,000 years called the Iron Age in which
we're seeing a combination of the two. And this I
suppose we can call then matter?
Ashtar: direction would be a better name for it.
Russ: direction. And so, the people on earth who
have experienced all three are now getting ready to
take it into its next phase.
Ashtar: some will do it from the third dimension, so
will do it from higher.
Russ: okay. And that will be determined by how they
respond to this coming event?
Russ: I understand. That's all I have Ashtar.
Ashtar: okay. Thank you very much.
Russ: thank you very much.
(Tia is back to get us to the end
of the side)
Tia: to say twice, the question please.
Tia: he does that, you know.
Russ: I know. He does to you too I know.
Russ: I doubt he would do that just for me, I think
he'd do it in equal to you.
Tia: uh-huh, and he's done it in the past.
Russ: I'll probably never learn but that's all
Tia: uh-huh, whereas I have learned.
Tia: all's he has to do is say it once and I know
immediately about that and he does so also as a test
you might have noticed?
Russ: yes, testing shields and testing ability to be
able to respond and come back.
Tia: and to see if if you are armed and stuff and
wouldn't fall to pieces.
Russ: I didn't. You know, I did throw away one of my
questions that I thought would be very irrelevant to
where we had gotten.
Tia: what one was that?
Russ: that was in dealing with how we're approaching
an unsustainable growth rate on this planet and I
was wondering if.......
Tia: that's more my field.
Russ: we were going to........that's kind of what I
assumed. I didn't want to really toss that out to
him as he would consider it not....
Tia: he was quite talkative though.
Russ: he was. That was the most I think we've had in
a long time.
Tia: I was going to say, most you've seen him in a
Russ: that's true.
Tia: what's it? Nearly 6 months.
Russ: yes indeed, I like that. I mean I ran out of
questions and that's a rarity.
Russ: usually I have extra questions and I don't get
a chance to ask them.
Tia: uh-huh. That's handy. He just stood up, stepped
outside the pyramid and went smack.
Russ: he's gone then?
Tia: yeah, gone.
Russ: oh good.
Russ: at least he didn't come down here this time.
Tia: yeah. I think he had things to do.
Russ: oh. That was, I'm glad he really answered that
Russ: I was little iffy on it whether he was going
to be able to just cut me off or.....
Tia: first time I've seen him actually chuckle then,
on the chain of command thing.
Russ: oh yeah.
Tia: actually got a smile out of him too. I rarely
Russ: yeah, well he's probably used to me.
Tia: I see them about once every two months. I make
a verbal report to him and he also scans me.
Tia: yeah, and then he goes around collecting
reports from everybody and he talks to them any
scans them and then he is gone.
Russ: hmm. Thought I felt a bit of a scan there
myself for a little while.
Tia: uh-huh. So poor Mark.
Russ: that was very educational for Mark, just it's
Tia: no, I Mark knows.
Russ: yeah, I'm I'm sure he suspects but I don't
think he wanted it confirmed quite now.
Tia: well Ashtar can be a little bit precise and to
Russ: that's why I'm practicing healing.
Tia: uh-huh. But, as he said, there are a very
strange bunch of people.
Russ: uh-huh. I had forgotten that conversation
completely actually. So he brought it up.
Russ: well good.
Tia: he seemed to think it was important enough to
bring up. I think it's something that he thinks that
you need to understand about Mark.
Russ: well go ahead, let's work on this other
question that I didn't bother asking him.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, now what was it?
Russ: okay. Basically that is that we're approaching
an unsustainable growth rate on this planet and I'm
wondering if the upcoming event is going to correct
that little problem?
Tia: certainly correct it but not how you want it.
Unsustainable growth is normally followed by what?
Russ: sustainable decline?
Tia: unsustainable decline.
Tia: it's like a boom and a bust. You boom, you
bust, you boom, you bust, you boom, you bust, you
boom, you bust.
Russ: well, one thing I wanted to ask him was, in
the event.........oh, is the event caused in part by
the growth rate as we saw in ancient Rome or because
of Rome's control of people, it collapsed bringing
the dark ages and it came with plagues and war.
Tia: the way it works is that you have an empire,
right? And it breaks up and the Emperor is
controlled by somebody with lots of money and he's a
Tia: then there's the outside influences breaking
down the Empire. The Huns, the Moors, the Visigoths,
the Goths, all breaking it down.
Tia: and of course there's the little nucleus that
stays strong that absorbs the Huns and economics is
a little bit like this. One standing on its foot to
look at history.
Tia: and you've got to trace it way, way, way, way
back. The Moran port in question is, how can a
country recover from a collapse?
Russ: well Omal stated it last week.....
Russ: and that was where Omal stated that the
collapse would be followed by a breaking up of
authority into little centralized mini governments.
Russ: those eventually reforming again form the
Tia: right. But how does the process work?
Russ: well the process works unfortunately very
chaotically at first.
Russ: in which major breakdowns in services,
Tia: locations and so on.
Russ: socialism and stuff.
Russ: and that that point it's dog eat dog for a
while until man's always searching for its stability
in which he can run his life by.
Tia: correct. But the problem is that once it's
re-hobbled together what happens? It grows strong,
it grows great, it starts to be corrupted, it starts
to rot within and breaks down again.
Russ: well the thing is is that, as we've discussed
before, this is merely something that is preparing
many of us as I was talking to Ashtar....
Russ: for the next step up. But if we don't have
Russ: we wouldn't have a veritable learning
experiences to grow from.
Tia: correct. But if you look at the economic side,
the social economic structure, right? Those don't
affect our famous, lovely, adorable Roman Empire.
Tia: okay, do you know it is reforming?
Russ: the Roman Empire?
Tia: not under that name but.....
Russ: you mean the European Market Community?
Tia: that's right.
Russ: you mean the apocalypse? Apocryphal 10 toes of
the beast? Is that how it went?
Tia: when the Roman Empire re-arises, I can't
remember how it goes.
Russ: I do. It's the 10 toes of the beast form and
at that point the beast being the antichrist rises
from the formation of......
(Kiri and Karra's grandmother is the night's
honored guest speaker)
and Karra's grandmother:
greetings and welcome. I am honored and pleased to
be amongst you. It is necessary for me to greet
you in the name of the: (the rest is too distorted
to make out).
(Kiri takes over
from her grandmother)
Russ: your grandmother?
Russ: ahh, well wonderful.
Russ: she sounded all good to me.
Kiri: yes she is. Don't forget, she is a nun.
Russ: well yeah, and fortunately....oh well, even
nuns have a sense of humor.
Russ: please explain to her........well,
nevermind, Karra is.
Kiri: of course. Uh-huh yes, they're heading down
to the picnic table that was set up and tidied up
and got everything nice and dignity boo and
wonderful and it's got flowers and Mark was still
working on it while Ashtar was in the pyramid.
Kiri: uh-huh. Been a busy individual when we came
in, saw it all set up and everything and it was
all excellent. Wine on the table and water for
those that aren't drinking at the moment. It was
all nicely set up.
Russ: well good. And here I am of course going,
Kiri: a very good first impression might I add.
Russ: oh yeah, family and all.
Kiri: okay, now let's get down to business.
Kiri: you have to excuse me.
Russ: it's all right love.
Kiri: I missed all the fun and entertainment with
Russ: oh, you didn't miss much.
Kiri: although apparently according by my relay,
Ashtar has returned.
Russ: returned where?
Kiri: sitting in the garden.
Russ: oh. So watching our P's and Q's.
Kiri: I don't think he can hear you unless he's
reading my mind and I don't think he is.
Russ: okay. And he has the ability.
Russ: alrighty, let's see, where to now?
Kiri: Tia's being the hostess with the most us
I've heard. She's being very well behaved.
Russ: oh good. Have one question for you written
Russ: and that is concerning the greenhouse. The
ground slopes out there by the fence.
Russ: and should I raise the greenhouse on blocks
to level it or shall use the slope for drainage?
Kiri: terrace it.
Russ: terrace it?
Russ: oh wait a minute, that's totally going to be
a whole other set of plans.
Russ: what you mean?
Kiri: you terrace it.
Russ: you mean break it into sections?
Kiri: no, you're right, it wouldn't work that way.
Russ: uh-uh. I've got to level it.
Kiri: that's right.
Russ: okay. Right, because remember we were
Russ: and we said any drainage that we need we'll
just slope the drainage pipe down?
Russ: we don't need to slope the whole entire
Kiri: that's right, we've got to level it. It's
got to be level.
Russ: right, so I've got put it up on blocks.
Kiri: yeah, you can do it that way.
Russ: why, what did you have in mind?
Kiri: well, I was just thinking about dumping the
soil so you only dump half of what you actually
need to move.
Russ: no, because it's quite an extreme slope out
Kiri: yeah, blocks would work better.
Russ: yeah, because that way also....
Kiri: you're going to dig the foundation.
Russ: right. Well here's a problem though. If I'm
going to put it on blocks, that means I'm going to
have to put a floor in whereas before we were just
Kiri: I'm just digging around inside Mark's mind
for second and.......hmmm, that sounds useful.
Guess who's built a greenhouse before?
Russ: he's built a greenhouse?
Russ: he didn't mention that.
Kiri: I don't think he likes to show off.
Russ: that could come in handy at some point.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well, he knows about irrigation and
building greenhouses. What the hell is he doing
working as a security officer?
Russ: ask him.
Kiri: yes, I will.
Russ: I've got a question for you sweetheart.
Russ: with Omal's prediction......oh, you didn't
hear that part, did you?
Kiri: what part?
Russ: about Mark and his burning brightly is going
to create some health hazards later on in his
Russ: I'm going to assume then that his health
hazards to be confined to the third dimension
Kiri: I assume so, I hope so.
Russ: right. I'm assuming that his astral body
once he gets it up there is going to be fine and
Kiri: I think listening to the tape closer might
give you your answer.
Russ: I'll listen to it.
Kiri: hmm, I don't know. I wasn't in on it and I
cannot answer. I lack information.
Kiri: that's better, I can talk to you easier now.
Russ: so, has your grandmother changed much since
you last saw her?
Kiri: she's got more wrinkles. She looks more like
70 instead of 60.
Russ: hmm. Well, she is 807.
Kiri: uh-huh. It's 814 to be precise.
Russ: she's more.
Kiri: uh-huh. I do adore my grandmother.
Russ: got any stories?
Russ: nothing growing up?
Kiri: no. She did counsel me quite a lot when I
was growing up.
Kiri: and she's always maintained that I am free
to go and talk to her whenever necessary and I
talk to her on subspace quite frequently.
Kiri: uh-huh. But it's very rare that she takes
her cowl off to be seen.
Russ: hmm. Hey, by the way, is Omal coming on
Kiri: no. Yes, Ashtar wasn't meant to come. We
heard about it on Friday just after Mark left
Russ: so it was a surprise for you guys too.
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. He wasn't due until next week.
Russ: he answered some questions.
Kiri: oh he did, did he?
Russ: well I asked him a lot about what's going on
in the future and the three great nations of
Russ: and we had Lemurian, Atlantean and now this
age here and then we're getting prepped up for a
New Age. Which I didn't know about. I took a wild
guess and he confirmed that part.
Kiri: uh-huh. Good, good, good, good, good. I'm
going to hand over to the next speaker as I've got
to go and help Tia.
is yet another special guest speaker)
Alana: yes? Hey, how's it going dear?
Russ: oh, Omal brought some interesting comments
to the party that I wasn't expecting.
Russ: I mean Ashtar.
Alana: oh yes.
Russ: it was quite enlightening.
Alana: uh-huh. Yes, you have to excuse me, I have
a drink with me and it's not alcohol.
Russ: and thank you for telling your grandmother
about my faux pas.
Alana: well, one has to help out. Besides, she is
not as na´ve.
Russ: oh, I assume that with having a
granddaughter like Kiri.
Alana: and a daughter like Miranda. And she
happens, when I left her, had her in her arms and
she was tickling her under the chin.
Russ: does she recognize her grandmother at all,
her great-grandmother, her mom? God, it's a little
confusing, all right? I get a little twisted on
those kind of things.
Alana: she calls her little daughter.
Alana: and she does not recognize her mother.
Russ: well, it wasn't expected.
Russ: it was a long shot.
Alana: uh-huh. It is one of those things that will
come later on when she's old enough. And Tia has
been an excellent hostess and so Mark has been an
excellent host. They have their children all lined
up in identical togas. And Leonedies is busy
sleeping which he will definitely enjoy his
great-grandmother when he wakes up.
Russ: hmm, nice.
Russ: so our party's at 7 o'clock our time
Russ: it's 8 o'clock your time.
Alana: correct. Hmmm, actually, I think
grandmother wants it a little bit later.
Russ: okay, that would make it 8 o'clock your
time, 10 o'clock our time.
Alana: uh-huh. Let me go and find out for you. I
will..........good, the cavalry's arrived.
Russ: hi Tia.
Alana: done that again, haven't you? Twice. Not
going to let you down, not going to let you forget
it, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh.
Russ: why me? I mean.....
Alana: why you indeed?
Russ: pick on somebody else. Will nobody else is
here. But I mean if they were here?
Alana: hey cats, where are you? You try doing this
without a monitor.
Russ: not bad. Well you've always been good with
Alana: uh-huh. Okay, yeah, she has my daughter in
her arms at the moment.
Russ: all right.
Alana: uh-huh. Surprised me that she wanted to
channel. I couldn't believe it.
Russ: well I couldn't either. That's why I said
what I said.
Alana: yeah, it surprised the heck out of me.
Russ: her mom told you I take it?
Alana: uh-huh. Don't worry.
Russ: oh right, yeah. Here's Mark, with his family
and his children all lined up in togas and here's
her other grandson in law.
Alana: oh yes.
Russ: talking about orgasms. Okay I mean, what
kind of impression is this making on the poor
lady, you know? Here I'll probably fall asleep in
my suit tomorrow at 10 o'clock...........it's
worse than when Ashtar comes in. At least with
Ashtar, he already understands me from long ago.
This lady has just met me and this is the
impression she's getting of me. Okay, he's a sex
Alana: she, as she keeps on frequently reminding
us, is a simple country girl. She's not of any
house of importance and I can never figure out why
Miranda, who was just a very, very faint memory
for her, know who my grandfather.......?
Alana: yeah, because they were both very different
Russ: well yeah, but I mean, soulmates.
Alana: yeah, I think that's what it was. Looking
at it, it was the prince and the pauper.
Russ: who, your grandmother was a pauper?
Alana: well not a pauper but yeah, not from a
wealthy......not from any house. She was a free
Russ: there is historical precedent for it though,
Alana: oh yeah. But I mean......
Russ: I'm sure up there also.
Alana: yes, she was a free woman which meant that
she had no house and she could go and do and not
be assigned to what they wanted her to do. She
could be free.
Russ: well that's probably what made all the
difference right there......
Russ: is the fact that she had her own mind, she
spoke it frequently.....
Russ: and Tanaxa probably saw that as a great
advantage over some of the ladies who would have
been more nobility let's say.......
(Tanaxa is Kiri and Karra's father)
Russ: but would be more constrained and more
stuffy and stuff. Pompous I guess Tia would say.
Alana: yeah, according to the family archives, she
did cause a big disturbance.
Russ: and who passed those genes on her daughters
Alana: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: who, one of them caused major scandals on
her own right. Kiri I mean.
Alana: oh, I thought you were referring to me.
Russ: you? You're the granddaughter, you don't
cause any scandals.
Alana yes. What do you mean I haven't caused any?
I've caused quite a few.
Russ: well none I can vouch for. The only ones
I've heard are the ones Kiri has caused.
Alana: yes, my auntie does cause some.
Russ: right, I've already made my scandal for the
night. I can't top that one.
(Karra jumps into the
Karra: okay Russ, sorry to interrupt.
Russ: oh, that's all right.
Karra: we'll put Tia back on in a minute. It will
be at 10:30 of your time but you can be present at
11 if you wish. Earlier would be nicer but 11 at
Russ: I'll have about that half-hour window
Karra: now, the news I'm hearing is that we will
have the reception first and then we will sit down
and have a late dinner.
Russ: oh, so I don't want to fall asleep at the
reception or dinner.
Karra: my grandmother says that you can be if you
wish be at one or the other or both.
Russ: I'll shoot for both. I'll shoot for the
reception and I'll shoot for dinner.
Russ: okay, sounds great.
Karra: well, I'll see you later.
Russ: oh, okay. Oh, I have a question for you.
Karra: oh, oh yes?
Russ: before you leave, that is sort of the reason
you're here tonight.
Karra: oh yes, I'm sorry. We weren't expecting her
to.........we were going to settle her in her
Russ: I know, throwing everybody off.
Russ: all right.
Karra: it is, as my grandmother is fond of saying,
age does have its advantages.
Russ: okay. Homeopath.......
Russ: I'm looking into that now as I've dabbled in
it before that research but what is the difference
between herbology and homeopath?
Karra: herbology is a very, very wide field. Let's
put it this way, what species are you?
Russ: Homo sapien.
Karra: there's your answer.
Russ: I'm not herbsapious so.......
Karra: your answer's right there. Herbology covers
a wide field. Homeopath deals directly with how
the Homo sapien works and its relationship to
Russ: hmm, okay.
Karra: not just herbs.
Russ: so natural medicines being....
Russ: elixirs for examples?
Russ: okay. Now the article I was reading
described various viruses......
Russ: that are making a major come back.
Russ: it's like we seen with Ebola in Africa.
Russ: and things that have not affected man for
let's say 25 years.
Russ: and yet they're carried in animals for all
this time and then all of a sudden people are
Russ: and according to the article I read, this is
due to the fact that Earth is fighting back.
Russ: using its defense system that has built in
Russ: control and correct problems that it's
Russ: which gives earth a bit more of a.......
Karra: edge then you think it does.
Russ: yeah, and.......
Karra: it has much of an edge then you think it
does. For example, tuberculosis, almost
Russ: yeah, and now the virus is back that we're
vaccinated against but it isn't affected by the
Karra: correct. Polio, diphtheria.
Russ: did that come back?
Karra: diphtheria, yellow fever, scarlet fever.
There's new strains as well, why? Because when you
eradicate one, it almost becomes extinct and it is
necessary for evolution.
Russ: how does it know to change that? I mean
Karra: environmental factors, it's called
Russ: so viruses are a life form of their own.
Karra: uh-huh, correct. The best way to describe
it is, are the dinosaurs extinct?
Russ: that's a good question. Not if you count the
viruses that were in existence back then.
Karra: no, dinosaurs are not extinct. They were
almost extinct but survivors. Snakes......
Russ: they adapted to conditions that would be
conducive for their existence.
Karra: correct. So are they extinct?
Russ: no, they mutated.
Karra: correct. Now I've got to go.
Russ: bye love.
(Kiri comes on to talk about
Kiri: oh, message from Karra, you are coming up
Kiri: uh-huh, and Alana.
Russ: so, how's the preparations going?
Kiri: preparations for.....?
Russ: the reception.
Kiri: oh, they're going fine. Fine, fine, fine,
Russ: will there be more?
Kiri: don't know, it's a big formal affair.
Russ: oh, is it something like the base........?
Kiri: uh-huh, upper echelons.
Russ: dang. Oh, that's messed up.
Kiri: Ashtar will be there, Korton and Omal, the
Council will be there, senior pilots will be
Russ: and me.
Kiri: I don't think........and family. And I don't
think she realizes how important she actually is.
She always says she's a simple country girl.
Kiri: and the thing is, she's not. I mean she's
from no house but because she's a nun and could
quite easily be a priestess if she wanted and all
she wants is the simple things in life as she
Russ: then why is she allowing this big whole
reception being taking place?
Kiri: because she's got no say in the matter.
Russ: oh she doesn't?
Kiri: no. It is to honor her.
Russ: besides, it's just a little party and
Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, probably about 80 people be
Russ: oh, that's neat.
Kiri: uh-huh. Now, we're getting everything ready
for the arrangements for when sweet little girl
Kiri: uh-huh. And we are going to have an erotic,
Russ: in great style.
Russ: you know, I've tried out the new outfit and
it just doesn't fit.
Kiri: well if Karra would stop stepping on the
feet it might fit a little better.
Russ: you know, I just don't look good in those
Kiri: no, we will have dressed up in something
that's a tease, if you want it.
Russ: that should be a challenge.
Kiri: uh-huh. It's going to be mainly Lyka's
Russ: hey, by the way, how are you guys figuring
out arrangements for Mark and I's.........our
Kiri: oh, we'll take a rest.
Russ: well I mean, you're going to be going with
Russ: well I know that part but you'll be joining
us for the Renaissance Festival of course.
Russ: seeing the girls with their breasts being
pushed up out of their thing and watching Mark
wander all over the place.
Kiri: personally, I think it's a good thing.
Kiri: it gets them all horny.
Russ: yeah, little bit.
Kiri: and he comes up here and makes love to me
Russ: oh, he'll be horny all right.
Russ: it's one of those feast and festivals of the
Russ: you never quite get enough of.
Russ: nothing but.........nevermind, you'll see.
Kiri: I'm already quite horny actually. I'm not
wearing any panties and I'm wearing a kneelength
Russ: does your grandma know?
Kiri: she isn't wearing any panties either but
it's because of her habit she's wearing. They
don't wear anything underneath it anyway.
Russ: they don't?
Russ: something I learn about nuns every day I
Kiri: well Sirian nuns anyway. But remember, she's
not an innocent virgin, you know?
Russ: so she didn't like renounce everything to
the church I guess. I don't know, religion and
Sirian religion has always been a little bit iffy
for me. I never figured that one out.
Kiri: she has become celibate of her own choice.
Kiri: ever since her husband died and he died I
think about 100 years ago so I didn't know him and
she's been celibate. And they bonded for life,
which is unusual actually.
Russ: I bonded for life.
Kiri: hmm.......yeah, but you're also bonded to
Alana. She was solely bonded to one person which
is unusual. And little gossip of fact is that
Lyka's family could be be linked to our family.
Kiri: yes. Somebody impressed the hell out of dad.
Russ: well I....
Kiri: elder sister.
Russ: who, Karra?
Kiri: no, elder sister of Lyka.
Russ: what elder sister?
Kiri: she has an elder sister and younger brother
and a younger sister.
Russ: well didn't Lyka impress the hell out of
your dad also if I remember right?
Kiri: uh-huh. According to somebody I know that
lives there, she arrived a day earlier than her
family and they spent the whole entire time in
bed. Well, figuratively in bed.
Russ: yes, right.
Kiri: uh-huh. Never did try it in the great dining
Russ: Lyka, I got to say is too young? That's for
Kiri: no, it's not Lyka that is still there.
Russ: oh, it's her elder sister.
Russ: why, are we looking at something in the
future being possible?
Kiri: possibly, yes.
Russ: no. How old is her sister?
Kiri: hmm, I think she's about 42.
Russ: that's half of Karra's age.
Russ: it's Sirius. I can't put earth standards
onto a planet that's not even mine.
Kiri: it surprised the hell out of me too. I've
only seen pictures of her.
Russ: wait a minute, Lyka's elder sister is about
Kiri: oh, she's a few years younger than I am.
Russ: that's what I mean.
Kiri: I'm 57.
Russ: yeah I know, but I mean in that area.
Russ: I mean in Sirian ages, I just put anything
between 20 and 70 in the same group.
Kiri: and guess who's thinking about a rejuve?
Russ: who, your dad?
Russ: your dad's going to want a rejuve?
Russ: this is news.
Russ: must've impressed the hell out of him.
Kiri: according to a friend of mine, who sometimes
took care of dad's needs, is that they've been
doing it a lot.
Russ: really? Okay, Lyka's elder sister lives on
Russ: well winded Lyka's elder sister meet your
Kiri: last week.
Russ: the first time?
Russ: that's quite a flash romance, wouldn't you
Kiri: yeah, she's very much like a younger sister.
She's a very horny young lady.
Russ: I guess.
Russ: well that's going to keep dad going for a
Kiri: I think so. She's not an engineer, she is a
Kiri: uh-huh. Retired from service.
Russ: at 42?
Kiri: uh-huh. She's studying to be a rejuv nurse.
Kiri: uh-huh. And she has.....
Russ: oh, so that's what's gotten the idea in his
Kiri: uh-huh. She saw active service like her
younger sister has.
Russ: being vulnerable.
Kiri: uh-huh. And she forsook having a graft.
Russ: oh, she had something burned off?
Russ: really? A whole hand, an arm?
Kiri: uh-huh, she has a mechanical one.
Kiri: like her younger sister she wears it with
Russ: her sister isn't wearing any
Kiri: is she?
Russ: she used to. Ohhhhhhhhh, Kiri? What is it
you're finally letting loose here on.....
Kiri: she lost two of her fingers.
Russ: ahh, recently?
Russ: in this last little thing?
Russ: nobody told me.
Kiri: nobody was meant to know.
Russ: good Kiri, you're getting better than Tia at
Kiri: we all make blunders from time to time.
Russ: ahhh, well I won't mention it to her. Mark
might. Shall I erase that portion of the tape or
do you want to tell him yourself?
Kiri: I'll tell him.
Russ: good girl.
Kiri: I screwed up.
Russ: because I knew she had been formally......
Kiri: uh-huh, her leg.
Russ: yeah, but she grew the grafted one back on.
Kiri: now she has two mechanical fingers.
Russ: and is she going to wear those with pride or
is she going to get a graft on those too?
Kiri: uh-huh, she will wear them with pride.
Russ: well then I think you definitely better tell
Kiri: uh-huh. Because normally professional
soldiers, like Lyka and her elder sister, wear
their wounds with pride when they save lives.
Russ: oh, I see. So when she lost her leg it
wasn't saving a life.
Kiri: no. It is my wound is for my sisters or
brothers. But the story goes, and I'll tell Mark
as well, was that they were getting ready to
leave, right? And Lyka with her astral vision
sight saw a package. And one of the girls had the
package under her arm that she had picked up at
Kiri: and Lyka grabbed hold of it and ran with it
and started to throw it and it went off.
Kiri: they would have been on or in the shuttle
for the ship when it went off which would have
caused much more damage than just losing two
fingers. So not only did she save the young lady
that she grabbed the package from, but he probably
saved the whole entire ship as well. So it
would've been her whole entire platoon that she
saved. Plus the technicians on board and everybody
else going up.
Russ: and you were going to hold this from me and
Russ: at Lyka's request of course.
Kiri: of course.
Russ: she's going to tear you a new one when she
Kiri: I'll seduce her. I she wanted to tell Mark
Russ: I think so too.
Russ: Mark can always act surprised. No, Mark
could never get away with it.
Kiri: Mark can be pretty clever at acting
Kiri: anyway, I'm in a hand you back to Tia.
(Tia has a chat before the
Russ: you didn't know either, I take it?
Tia: no I didn't.
Tia: oh well.
Russ: that's all right, you let something go
Russ: in front of Ashtar too I have to admit so
that's pretty amazing. Between thr two tonight,
Tia: we're a bundle of nerves.
Russ: I guess. You're never like this though,
neither one of you.
Russ: I have two admit, this is the most decorum
session we've had in that pyramid......
Russ: since we did anything in there....very bad.
(We hear what sounds like a cat)
Russ: happen again Tia?
Russ: happen again?
Tia: I don't follow.
Russ: who was that?
Russ: excuse me?
Tia: that was Minerva.
Russ: mistress manifestor herself.
(Russ repeats the sound)
Russ: that's on tape.
Tia: oh, it is?
Russ: yes, it's on tape.
Tia: the only other person that's been on tape has
Russ: that's pretty good. What did she say?
Tia: she asked me where I wanted to put it so I
told her to put it on the bed.
Russ: what did she turn it into?
Tia: she turned it into a tray with hotdogs on it.
That was clever my asking.
Russ: tray with hotdogs, what if someone wants a
Tia: well they're not cooked.
Russ: oh. Well she has a sense of humor too at an
Tia: well I told her to make it look like
something that was edible but very similar so it
wasn't too much of a strain on her.
Russ: hmm, could have been an ice cream pop
Russ: that's pretty good though.
Russ: I couldn't do it.
Tia: yes, it looks like there's about a dozen on a
Russ: that's beyond nice as a manifestor.
Tia: yeah, she's having difficulty carrying the
tray and watching where she goes.
Russ: proud of your daughter, dear?
Tia: yes, very proud.
Russ: I see that.
Tia: yes, light blue toga with gold trim.
Russ: very proper.
Tia: uh-huh. And grandmama has difficulty telling
the triplets.......well, she can tell Athena but
Diana and Minerva she can't tell apart.
Russ: well I can't either.
Tia: can anybody except for me and Kiri?
Russ: well you can from the smell.
Russ: Mark can because of the fact of girls of
course close association.
Tia: uh-huh. One has a narrower band of freckles
than the other. Diana has a wide band and Minerva
has a narrow band.
Russ: I'll check it out next time.
Russ: are they coming to the reception tomorrow?
Russ: oh wonderful, I'll see if I spot it.
Tia: yes, we're going to let them nap early and
then have them all ready and everything.
Russ: oh good.
Tia: uh-huh because it will be way past their
bedtime. Alex will be there and is going to be
dressed in a little suit.
Tia: very formal affair. I didn't realize the
technician is sitting there totally in the buff.
Russ: she's been there all that time?
Russ: which technician, the 18-year-old? Well I'm
sure Kiri's grandmother didn't mind.
Tia: I don't think she noticed her. Her eyesight
isn't as bright as it once was. And she is sitting
behind the monitoring device that she has.
Russ: I was going to say, you didn't see her and
you've been there the whole time.
Tia: uh-huh. She just stood up to get a drink that
was propped on the top. Karra was going to talk to
you but she's ran off and is surreptitiously
getting a dress for her.
Tia: because she wasn't meant to be here.
Russ: why not? You have to have a monitor, don't
Tia: no, no, no, no, no.
Russ: oh, the grandmother.
Tia: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: what's her name?
Tia: all's I call her is grandma.
Russ: me too because otherwise it's like
grandmother in law.
Tia: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: well if they're over at your house, did she
just grab one of Kiri's dresses?
Russ: she's about the same size.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah.
Russ: because yours would just be like up to her
Tia: okay, Karra's back.
Russ: okay, ask her what we're going to do about
getting dressed tonight.
(Karra finishes things up)
Russ: what are we doing about me getting
suited up for tomorrow?
Karra: we're going
to dress you up in a matching suit to Michael and
David and Kevin.
Karra: all going to be matching suits.
Russ: so I need to come up for a fitting?
Russ: got it.
Karra: although I could use a holo of you to get
it fitted properly.
Russ: yes, I know but it's better if I'm there in
Russ: I can always tell when you're helping me out
on that too.
Karra: uh-huh, stamina.
Russ: how you doing darling?
Karra: I'm doing fine.
Russ: you're the only one who was unflustered
Karra: yes, very well behaved.
Russ: you heard about Kiri and Tia's little
Karra: yes, I did know about Lyka's fingers.
Russ: you did?
Russ: I'll get the full story later, I'm sure.
Karra: oh yes, of course.
Russ: that's kind of interesting. That is one of
the most amazing stories that I've heard tonight.
Karra: uh-huh. I'm trying to puzzle out why one of
Mark's daughters is running around with a tray of
Russ: you want the full story on that now or
Karra: no, probably not.
Karra: she's wandering around and looking
Russ: Tia's doing.......
Karra: no, Mark got to her.
Russ: Mark got to her.
Karra: uh-huh. Well Tia's there as well now.
Karra: they're talking and giggling.
Russ: I'll give you the story real quick. It's
(Tia finding her vibrator and having daughter
manifest it into something else had been edited
Russ: it was in the pyramid and Tia wanted to get
it to Kiri's bed without your grandmother seeing
it so she had Minerva.....
Karra: oh I understand, I get the joke.
Russ: something similar, edible.
Karra: that's very clever.
Russ: I couldn't do it if I tried hard.
Karra: that's very clever.
Russ: you know what? Minerva spoke on tape.
Russ: we've got Minerva on tape right now.
Karra: this is one of the strangest channeling
sessions we've had in some time.
Russ: we don't get ones like this too often.
Karra: yeah, this is just a regular chitchat tape.
Russ: I know.
THE TAPE ENDS