Archivist Notes: We here at the Hades Base
News are big fans of synchronicity but even we have
to step back in amazement when the past continually
meets up with the present. Such is the case with
Tia's dissertation on the events of 1997, both
socially and politically, and how they mirror almost
exactly the events of today. To say the coincidence
is freaky would be an understatement but we're
getting used to that when transcribing these
randomly picked channeling sessions. It would be
nice to say we chose this tape on purpose because it
would help people relate to the current crisis but
that has been done for us by the forces of fate.
What has always been a question for me is why it
took twenty years for everything to finally come
together so these channeling sessions could be heard
as well as read. Naturally, technology has played a
major part of the problem as what is inexpensive now
cost much more back then thanks to podcast sites. A
better reason is that this session in particular
could not have been posted at a better time. What is
being said in Tia's dissertation is what we're
seeing in the headlines and the streets of our very
cities. Tia's synchronicity is just the start of
what would be a night of firsts. One blemish on the
recording is the last ten minutes where we receive a
call from Carrie. While the sound quality is great
up until then, for some reason Tia's voice gets
distorted as it blows through the maximum range of
the microphone. Since the other voices sound fine it
seems to point to Tia being right on top on the mic
during the call. Our sound technician did what he
could but the distortion remains. To hear Carrie's
joy is worth the annoyance and we apologize we did
not recognize the problem at the time of taping.
Now, onto the summary.
Tia is full of good news as
the channeling session starts with new stock market
records being set and a downgrade in Defcon levels
due to a president who was turning right. She
continues the topic of that same president and the
distraction facing him in the form of impeachment.
It's when she gets into going over the various
scenarios facing our future that it seems as though
the future couldn't wait. Her description is
straight out of the headlines leaving the listener
wondering if they had entered a time warp in how
close things match to the present. What we try to
work out is what this means to the people most
affected and a corresponding point in history is
used of the invasion of Poland by the Nazis. It was
after that they immediately started rounding up the
Jews and the undesirables. Not the most cheerful
part of the channeling though it is something that
could happen in the future to those deemed
different. Next is Omal who only has time to get us
through to the end of the tape and brings with him
some great news. A proposal Karra and myself
conceived had been approved for a Conference between
the various races who had dealings with our planet.
It was an arrangement where all parties could
hopefully find common ground on the policies
affecting the human race where we would actually
have a say in the conversation. The proposal had
been debated for the last eight weeks and Omal was
happy to announce it was the fastest a proposal had
ever been agreed to by the Council of Ashtar
Command. Instrumental with its passage was a Wookie
friend of mine I had met while skiing who I had
become close to during my trips to the base. Omal's
personal request was that the Arcturians have a role
in the Conference which was agreed to as they also
had dealings with our planet. That is all we had
time for before the tape runs out and Omal heads off
to his meeting.
Tia comes back as Omal leaves
and we discuss the conversation between Omal and I.
She helps with the need to establish the rules that
would be agreed upon by everyone involved with the
Conference including Ashtar. She points out that the
discussions between all the off-world participants
involved will give the general public reading the
transcripts a chance to compare the various paths. A
great suggestion of hers is to utilize a chat room
at a now defunct New Age site that had become
popular called Spirit Web. Karra replaces Tia and we
go over an astral trip of mine I had taken to the
base where I taught the children of the base about
how money works. It was helped by Omal taking the
form of one of the children but had chosen a girl so
I had no idea who it was I was teaching. The
children of both Karra, Alana, and I enjoyed
watching their father get to teach a class though
the concept of money wasn't grasped as well as I
hoped. Their system is a better one so who can blame
them. One funny part when going over the Conference
with her is that a few of her verbal answers are to
my telepathic questions. She also needs my help in
the future with some incoming wounded from the
Sirian Defense Force we heard about back in our
November podcast. Seeing the toll taken by the
members of the Force in protecting a third
dimensional sister world of Sirius helped me realize
it isn't all fun and games assisting others in their
ascension path. Kiri pops in to let us know she will
be visiting Sarah and her grandmother at the convent
on Sirius and would not be there for a session in
July. That leaves Tia to finish off when we get a
call from Carrie who had her new baby. It was the
perfect end to a great channeling session.
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(Tia starts things off after the
bowl has rung)
(Russ rings a Tibetan bowl)
Tia: now why did you do that for?
Russ: greetings and welcome to tonight’s
Tia: so why did you do that?
Russ: what, didn’t you like that?
Tia: I was just wondering why you did that.
Russ: oh, because I was told to do that.
Tia: by Karra?
Tia: ahhh, Karra who is supposedly hustling down the
hallway to the apartment......yes?
Russ: I don’t know about that, I was told that
earlier today when I was working on the place.
Tia: ahh, for the energy.
Russ: I was told, “ring the bell slowly once".
Tia: so how we doing this evening?
Karen: oh just fine, how are you?
Tia: I’m doing excellent.......excellent, excellent,
Russ: I’ve been told this is going to be a fun
Karen: oh good, I’m looking forward to some fun.
Russ: at least the first part of it anyway.
Karen: oh good.
Tia: uh-huh. Well first of all, let me get down to
business. Seems like I do this every week but
anyway, again it was another record day setting a
Russ: for what?
Tia: well 7,200 and whatever it is.
Tia: and yesterday was another record day.
Karen: yeah, it was really down there.
Tia: it was way up there.
Karen: I was reading it wrong.
Tia: so, that is three weeks that I’ve had to
make………now what is going on here? Oh by the way,
we’re downgrading to Defcon three for the time being
because the stock market is doing so well…….
Russ: hey, excellent.
Tia: also, that Clinton has become more of a
Russ: is this going on the news I take it?
Tia: probably yes.
Russ: well it’s up to you, darling.
Tia: it’s up to you, we got the okay and what’s
Karen: my stomach?
(everyone breaks out laughing)
Tia: there’s a very high-pitched whistle.
Russ: I don’t hear it.
Kiri: oh, I hear that, it’s coming from the tape
Russ: that lightbulb?
Tia: could be.
Russ: turn the lights off.
Karen: that’s it.
Karen: that’s it.
Karen: I thought it was my ears, it’s the lightbulb.
Tia: uh-huh, anyway…..
Russ: let’s find out.....tell me if it’s still going
Karen: no, it’s off.
Tia: and the bulb blew.
Russ: and the bulb blew, that’s why.
Tia: okay anyway, anyway, now where was I? Oh yes…..
Russ: record breakers.
Tia: record breakers and also downgrading to Defcon
Russ: and Clinton turning into a Republican.
Tia: uh-huh, because he has agreed almost 100%…..
Russ: to the budget.
Tia: the budget deal proposed by the Republicans
which has left his party very upset with him,
especially the Liberals.
Russ: the question has been asked, will it blow his
chances for Gore’s reelection?
Tia: yes it has.
Karen: what about Clinton’s reelection?
Russ: he didn’t get reelected, he’s already gone two
Karen: oh bummers.
Tia: but they are talking about repealing the 33rd
Karen: which is?
Russ: giving Clinton one more shot at it.
Tia: as many shots as he needs. There are rumors of
that but anyway, besides those factors,
okay...........it seems that things are improving,
because in the last two years since the election of
a Republican majority in the Senate and the House,
they have finally been able to achieve what they
have been trying to do and some of their ideas were
deliberately extreme because they knew they wouldn't
get them passed but they could compromise to what
they really wanted and in actual fact that’s what
they’ve done. The funny thing is that when they
proposed the ideas, they were called cuts, slashes
instead of a reduction in spending. Now that they’ve
been passed right? They been called reductions in
spendings so this is a language difficulty that they
had, that the Republicans were typecast as cutting
and slashing and obviously it did not work and
people do not fall for that that which was rhetoric
from the popular press and the Liberal Democrats.
People obviously understood that a cut is not a cut
in politics but in actual fact a reduction in
spending. So, this reductions in spendings
accompanied with appeasement has bolstered the
Republican standing, that they’ve achieved what they
wanted, everything looks good and rosy but there is
still dark clouds on the horizon. You see this year
was the last opportunity for passing a balanced
budget amendment. If it didn’t pass, then things
were going to hell in a handbasket and rapidly. The
fact that it has passed means that it’s going to
stimulate the economy because there is cuts in
taxes, capital gains taxes being one of them, death
taxes is another one.
Karen: death taxes?
Tia: well what you pay when somebody dies.
Karen: that’s not fair.
Tia: no, but they do exist but they’ve been cut,
they've been slashed. So it means that things are
looking better that the Republicans now have a
strong footing if they get their act together to
launch a decisive assault on the presidency. And I
don’t think that they should wait until the meeting
of the caucuses and the nomination process, I think
they should start now, grooming somebody for that
Russ: they already are.
Russ: he’s been in the news again.
Tia: uh-huh, he’s been in the news but he's not
suited for it, but that's besides the point. Okay,
now let us get down to the other business as time is
short. Okay, politics, politics, politics, politics.
Well it seems to me that by the appeasement of the
Democratic leader who is trying to survive, he’s
trying to win over the Republicans by appeasing them
by whatever means necessary even to the point of
selling out his own people, why? Well, Whitewater.
He’s hoping to divert the fact that he has just
committed the same crime that got Nixon impeached,
obstruction of justice. Now, by agreeing with
Republican pressure and balancing the budget and
cutting or reducing the amount of expenditure and
growth in certain programs and cutting taxes,
capital gains tax, death duty tax and so on, the
Republicans are more inclined, supposedly and
hopefully for them, to not push the investigation.
Now, Hillary Clinton does not have presidential……
Tia: well she’s a private citizen. If she is asked a
question, she can’t get the White House lawyers to
help her, she has to do it on her own without
Russ: well she’s an attorney herself.
Tia: yes, and she should know that she can’t do that
but that’s what she’s claiming. What are they
hiding? Well it’s about to come out, it’s going to
come out very, very soon if they’re unlucky. If
they’re lucky, it will come out at about the time
that Al Gore is running for presidency. Doesn’t look
good does it?
Russ: that is a theoretical question though, if I
could step in at this point.
Tia: uh-huh, that’s why I stopped.
Russ: good. Now then, as I recall, at the point
where we were still in the middle of the election……
Russ: and we still had our choice between three
candidates, Dole, Perot and Clinton......
Russ: we were discussing all three scenarios,
scenario A, B and C.
Russ: A, being the worst was of course…..
Tia: no, C being the worst.
Russ: oh, C being the worst was of course Perot
Russ: B of course, being second-worst was Clinton
being elected and A, Dole being elected.
Russ: each of those scenarios led up to increasingly
bad future predictions for our country and the world
Russ: now, with Clinton being elected, we were
dropped into scenario B as our future prediction.
Russ: now, how I see it is with Clinton leaning more
towards the Republican way of thinking and assisting
them in their ways of doing things, we’re going more
out of scenario B and more into scenario A……
Tia: that’s correct.
Russ: so it’s more like an A-, B+ kind of thing.
Tia: correct. Now if you remember I did mention
Russ: correct, yes.
Tia: and this is one of the subcategories. This is
as you rightly pointed out A-, B+ and that’s the way
it’s going because they have to try to survive. What
will happen if the Clintons are impeached? Gore
takes over, but Gore is in the same boat as they are
Russ: yes but that’s only temporary, the impeachment
wouldn’t last until maybe the election......
Russ: and wouldn’t be impeached until then, at that
point it would be too late anyway.
Tia: yeah, but the fact is, he would be if he got
elected, he would be impeached almost immediately.
Russ: that wouldn't happen with the impeachment
process going on, it would blow his chances anyway
so, it wouldn't matter whether he was squeaky
Russ: he wouldn’t get in just because he’s just on
Tia: but let us go back, let’s say it happens next
Tia: okay, they get impeached, Gore takes over and
promptly whereupon he gets impeached because they
drag him down with them.
Russ: no, they wouldn’t, he’d just go ahead and give
them immunity for them to not say anything.
Tia: he would get impeached for that….
Russ: well yeah, but…..
Tia: by a Republican majority?
Russ: there wouldn’t be enough time in his office
left to worry about it.
Tia: uh-huh, but he would……
Russ: it would be another Ford Nixon deal.
Tia: exactly but he would never be reelected and
whereupon they would open up and investigate him and
oh boy, would he be in trouble? And who
would……..let’s say they do impeach him, who’s next
Russ: speaker of the House…..
Tia: Newt Gingrich, do you want him?
Russ: oh yeah, I think Newt would do a great job.
Tia: seriously do you want Newt Gingrich as
president even if it’s only temporary?
Russ: Newt's the antichrist.
Tia: I thought that was Bill Gates?
Russ: no, that’s Mark’s antichrist, my antichrist is
Tia: uh-huh, and your opinion Karen, you’re sitting
there very quietly?
Karen: I could care less.
(Tia starts to chuckle)
Karen: I don’t like the presidents, I’ve never
really voted for them in the first place, I had my
choices and they don’t seem to be doing anything for
Tia: okay, lets us assume that Bill Gates gets
elected……..I mean Newt Gingrich gets elected.
(That gets Russ laughing uproariously)
Tia: I thought I would get both in there.
Russ: I’m going to throw that one on the webpage.
Karen: who is he, who is Gingrich?
Tia: Newt Gingrich? He’s the speaker of the House.
Karen: oh okay.
Tia: he’s actually, from what I’ve read in his
private life, a very nice person.
Karen: well rude too.
Tia: I wouldn’t say rude, he’s just very focused.
After all, if he wasn’t good as a politician would
he have been elected, would he have become speaker
of the House?
Karen: well I don't know, there's Nixon.......you
Russ: good game player.
Tia: exactly, he knows how to work politics so
therefore he is good for what he does. He is not
Karen: what he wants.
Tia: I don’t think he wants it.
Russ: he’s the ultimate politician.
Russ: well there’s no reason he should get
president, but the fact of the matter is it’s a moot
point. A number one, any impeachment proceedings
have started within the year would take until the
end of the presidency to take effect……
Russ: at which point it would be too late. The
Republicans will still take over the next term…..
Russ: no matter how much mud is splashed upon the
White House without any impeachments taking place
between now and 2000.
Tia: perhaps we should change the White House name
to the brown house.
Russ: and obviously, the scenario that you’re
discussing, scenario A-, B+…..
Russ: for the sake of those folks who are just
tuning in to this page, you could perhaps go over a
little more of what that entails?
Tia: okay, scenario A is…..or was…..a Republican
house, Republican Senate and a Republican president,
probably Bob Dole. Actually, Bob Dole wasn’t the
ideal A character, it happened to be…..with his
Russ: you mean Powell?
Tia: no, Forbes.
Russ: oh, Forbes.
Tia: uh-huh. After all, Forbes is a businessman that
has political experience, has knowledge on how to
run a business, scenario A was Forbes being elected
president. He, being a businessman and having a very
good advisor, would shepherd the country on an
economic pathway that would bring great prosperity
but would also have economic difficulties to start
off with. Scenario B is the one where Bill Clinton
got reelected and…….
(the phone rings)
(the tape is paused as Karen suddenly finds she has
to leave due to what was said during the call)
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Karen: bye Tia.
Tia: okay, if you want to call and we can do the
telephone thingy again.
Karen: if I get there on time so I don’t get people
all stressed out.
Tia: yeah, we’re going to get tied up in politics
and I know you don’t have much of an interest in
Karen: I don’t like politics. Everyone tells me who
to vote for and it's like I think who I vote for
Russ: Mickey Mouse.
Karen: you got it.
Tia: hey, vote for me next time.
Tia: vote for me, Tia Taal.
Karen: I will.
Karen: just like I voted for Monty Python.
Russ: scenario B darling.
Tia: scenario B okay, is where Bill Clinton is
reelected and what happens is, for the first year
and half of his second term, the stock market goes
up, up, up, up, up, up, setting new records……wait a
second, that sounds a little bit like now
actually……..whereupon, there is a hike in the
interest rate. A little bit higher than people have
anticipated which puts the brakes on the economy.
Taxes are increased also which puts the brakes on
the economy even further and depression sets in and
things start to go on the skids. Okay, scenario C is
where the parrot……..I mean Perot was……..and you can
put that in……..the parrot was elected……..I mean
Perot and Mr. Big Ears and Big Nose decides to run
the country like a business. Well, the thing with
Perot is that you work for him. It’s more of a
dictatorship actually and what happens is you cut
taxes but in the wrong places, you need programs.
The poor get upset with him and the rich and of
course that leads to things like the Los Angeles
riots which in turn means that the National Guard
gets called in which in turn causes a whole load
more problems but it’s not just one city that this
would occur in, it would be many cities. Also, what
would occur in case scenario C is an economic
depression would set in because external foreign
investors would not like what they see going on in
the country that has become chaos and pull out
pushing the depression further down which in turn
stops the buying power of the United States which in
turn affects other countries which gives a global
depression as opposed to just a countrywide
recession as in case scenario B. Now the thing is in
case scenario C is that the depression in the
country may not start internally. It may certainly
start and be a mini recession, but because of the
lack of buying power overseas, it would affect
markets such as the Japanese market which is always
teetering one way or the other way to teeter and
finally totter and go whee which in turn would mean
that there wouldn’t be so many electronical goods
going around which means that the people to supply
the components and the raw materials to Japan
wouldn’t have a market which means that they’d have
stock sitting around on their shelves which means
that they would have to cut their expenditures which
means they would have to cut staffing and product
and material and affect other places in turn. So you
see a whole entire domino effect that needs to occur
in case scenario C. Now case scenario C did not have
much of a chance of occurring, the other two as you
can see, had a great chance of happening and nearly
did have case scenario A. Towards the end of the
election had been a week longer, I feel that Dole,
which is in actual fact case scenario B+, A-, nearly
occurred which is what you have now. Even though
it’s not Dole, it’s Clinton but Clinton needs the
Republicans to survive but the question is, will he
survive with what is going on now? Now that is up in
the air. At this point our predictions get a little
bit sketchy and the figures get a little bit wild.
You talk 50% this, 30% that, any time that it’s
under 75%, then it becomes tricky. So, what are the
possibilities? Well, the possibilities are he gets
impeached, he doesn’t get impeached. His wife gets
arrested, which would certainly hamstring him and
look very bad for him, but he doesn’t. He can’t give
her a presidential pardon because that would look
bad. In fact, that would get him impeached quicker
than what he’s done at the moment. So you see the
figures at this point get very, very sketchy.
Russ: so the question I have is, where we were
looking at possible rioting in the large cities with
case scenario B…..
Russ: with case scenario B+ is that still a
Tia: yes it is but it’s a minor possibility now.
Tia: but, the cities are in a boiling point
regardless of what is going on.
Russ: so is stocking up still a necessity?
Tia: it’s handy.
Russ: and does it push back the date….
Tia: yes it does.
Russ: currently predicted?
Tia: yes it does push it back.
Russ: to what point?
Tia: pushes back to……we’re going to, instead of
doing it as in Defcon two, month by month right?
We’re going to it year-by-year. We’re going to
review in probably about November time and then
again in May time, but we will keep you advised
because things could transpire that throws a whole
entire fly in the ointment you see?
Tia: but it’s not so much looking at it
month-to-month, it’s going to be now six months at a
Tia: which is a definite improvement.
Russ: way improvement.
Tia: you can definitely slow down on your stocking
up unless of course, without warning, you get from
Mark Defcon two then you go back to the state of
readiness that you've been in and then if you get a
Defcon one from Karra, myself, Omal, whoever, you
get really ready. But you should be able to see
Defcon one coming like an express train at that
Tia: rioting in places like Reno, Carson City,
Sacramento, Placerville……if you hear about them,
it’s Defcon one.
Russ: okay, question for you.
Russ: in 1939 in Poland…….
Tia: September the first.
Russ: the Jewish population from the 1300s to this
point had been very much at peace…..
Russ: living at a very enjoyable pace with no
problems foreseen on the future.
Russ: Hitler was the threat in Germany but it didn’t
Russ: one month later, all hell breaks loose,
Poland's invaded and the Jews are being rounded up.
Russ: is this a possibility that our country could
possibly foresee or is it going to be a slower pace
Tia: a slower pace than that but, not being fully
versed on what happened in 1939……..I believe it was
August not September……it is real hard for me to
really look at that issue. From what I’ve heard that
they attacked but they had also the Stalin people
come in and attack from the other side. What could
happen in your country? Yes that is a possibility
but it wouldn’t be so much as the Jewish people, it
would be more the people that appear to be
different, unusual. People of different spiritual
beliefs but that is not so much of a problem as it
has become more acceptable to be of a different
religion. It might be different mental levels.
People that have an IQ that is below a certain level
may become targets.
Russ: or above a certain level.
Tia: exactly, but it is really hard to say. People
above a certain level are usually smart enough to
dodge the bullet as it were so it would be more than
likely people under a certain intelligence. They’re
dragging down the country, they’re not being
productive, let’s get rid of them, let’s round them
all up and have them in places where we can keep an
eye on them and make them useful individuals.
Russ: which is how they thought of the Jews in 1939.
Russ: even though they had a higher educational
level than most of the Germans or Poland's around
Russ: Polish around them, it was still a fact that
they were looked at as a….
Russ: inferior class.
Tia: I believe the word untermensch was frequently
Tia: which means under human. Okay, that about wraps
it up for me. On that note, I would like to have
Kiri’s question answered, why is phonetically not
spelled the way that it sounds?
Russ: it goes back to the Latin.
Tia: oh, okay. But phonetically would be the
Tia: but it’s not spelled that way.
Russ: why is it not spelled with an F?
Tia: it’s a joke.
Tia: okay, I'm going to put on the next speaker.
Tia: oh, before I do, Karra didn’t relay any of the
discussion between Kiri and Karen did she?
Russ: no, she did not.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
(Omal comes in at his normal
position on the schedule)
Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ, let us get
down to matters at hand quickly.
Russ: greetings Omal, are you on a time schedule?
Omal: yes, I am unfortunately due to the delay in
the start of the channeling session and matters that
needed to be addressed that I agree with.
Russ: uh-huh, no problem. Basically, I don’t have
any questions anyway......
Russ: so we’re on any time schedule you want to play
with this evening.
Omal: I have about ten minutes, which should be to
the end of this tape, the end of this side.
Russ: wonderful, well we’ll just discuss ten minutes
worth of discussion.
Omal: okay, what would you like to know, in general?
Russ: well basically from what Tia had mentioned, we
have a very much breathing a sigh of relief.
Omal: only a temporary sigh of relief.
Russ: temporary nonetheless though, it is one that
we are looking forward to in the fact that we’re not
able to take more precautionary measures for the
Omal: okay, what are you going to do in this
precautionary time, this lull?
Russ: well this lull allows a point where we can do
some more redesigning of the house to prepare for a
future that would include scenario B......
Russ: and that would be completing our storage
Omal: okay, so you continue with putting shelving
Omal: all the necessary things that you need.
Omal: better lighting possibly.
Russ: ahh, very much so, I’ll talk to Skip about
that. And now on the other hand, one more thing that
this break allows for us to do, is start doing some
more plans that Karra and I have been working on
which is aiming toward a New Age center.
Omal: that is already being dealt with by Karra and
yourself. My input would be to proceed and to get
the network going.
Russ: well, I’d like your help on one item that her
and I are a little bit stuck on.
Russ: and that is the acquiring of the space.
Russ: so what we’re looking at is possibly asking
for someone to donate a space, for tax write-off
purposes and along with that, asking for people to
donate books and other items that could be used as
like a New Age library.
Omal: that would be appropriate. My suggestion is
emphasize donation, emphasize no currency will be
accepted. Even buying somebody a cup of coffee could
be construed as giving money.
Omal: if you wish to proceed, you have to have it
certified as a religion and a church to get
tax-exempt status. At the moment with all the
problems with the cults on your planet, this might
not be appropriate.
Russ: I agree.
Omal: the fact that two more people tried to copy
the Heaven’s Gate suicide should be noted at this
time, one succeeded.
Russ: okay. What a……..not a church, well how can we
do this? Something like the Center for Ashtar
Omal: no, I don’t think Ashtar would approve of
having his name used in such a way.
Omal: Center for Spiritual Development.
Russ: that could be nonprofit?
Russ: okay. And so with that, keeping that donations
as solely tax-free, then theoretically we could get
something started that way......
Russ: along with a webpage of a similar note.
Omal: correct and the blending of ideas. Now,
another piece of information that I am delighted to
bring up, is that your suggestion has been approved.
Russ: which one.
Omal: Ashtar has approved and will try to make
himself available for a group discussion from
various entities in a channeling format.
Russ: ahh, the channeling forum.
Omal: correct. If he cannot make himself available
he will delegate somebody. I hope it does not fall
on me, probably it will.
Russ: well, you would be the next obvious choice
Omal: correct but there are other individuals that
are far more qualified to deal and debate than I.
Russ: well you underestimate yourself though, I
think you’d be wonderful at the job.
Omal: I am a base commander, I have lots of
Omal: taking time out to channel would have to be
planned as this is planned.
Russ: well, of course, before we do anything like
this, it would be well-thought-of, it would be
practically set as a military campaign almost
Omal: correct. Rules and regulations will have to be
agreed upon in advance by the individuals that will
be channeled. In other words, Ashtar will have to
agree to the format that is proposed.
Russ: okay. Well, two of the channels that I’m
looking at approaching right now are Barbara
Marciniak who channels The Pleiadians.....
Lyssa Royal, who we’re both
very familiar with, channeling the Zeta Reticuli.
Russ: and then of course whoever Ashtar Command is
Omal: correct and the ideal person would be….
Omal: Ashtar channeled through Roger.
Russ: that ain’t going to happen.
Omal: no, unfortunately. We will use the next
available person most suited……
Omal: is Mark.
Omal: although Mark may have an adrenaline overload
dealing with so many people.
Russ: well the thing is, we can keep the number of
people down to a minimum as far as who’s all there.
Then what we do is we make it an Internet affair
where he’s quite comfortable with.
Omal: uh-huh. Well the ideal setup would be all the
parties meeting in person. That way there could be a
free trading of ideas as opposed to in a chatroom
where lots of people would be chatting as well as
the discussion between the three races.
Russ: no, that wouldn’t be a feasible idea. What I’m
thinking of is just the information itself going out
on the net as it’s presented, no input allowed
Omal: I have a better idea.
Omal: we write a statement, or all parties write a
statement, an opening statement.
Omal: okay, to which is added the replies addressing
so it would be a ongoing developing debate. Let us
say once a week an individual puts up a post, would
it be possible to do that through your webpage?
Russ: yeah, sure.
Omal: okay. Offer your webpage and guarantee
Russ: of course.
Omal: okay, that an opening statement from each
group, a question from each group to start off with.
Say for example, Ashtar does his, "I’m delighted to
be here, it is a pleasure and a honor to be among
such esteemed colleagues, etc., etc., etc. I would
like to ask for their input on the plan of raising
the vibrationary level of the planet to a whatever."
Omal: their comment or their preamble and their
question would also be published at the same time
and so on. And the return reply would be addressed
let us say Ashtar addresses the Zetas and the
Russ: so this would be a week by week thing instead
of just a one day gathering?
Russ: that’s a great idea.
Omal: so that way it would bring more people to your
page, get our line across and if they have webpages
they can post it on their webpages.
Russ: that’s a great idea.
Omal: that we would send a message to them and you
so that any chance of editing can be….
Russ: dealt with because everybody has the same….
Russ: information on their webpages.
Russ: great idea, I like it. So did you guys do this
through Council first….
Russ: off the record?
Omal: through the Council.
Russ: through the Council.
Omal: it has been close to eight weeks?
Russ: something like that, yeah.
Omal: that is the fastest that something has been
Russ: oh really?
Russ: did my friend the Wookie agree on it?.
Omal: he stood up and gave a long address. In fact
he was the delegate to a Council meeting on Sirius
base where Ashtar happens to be at this time.
Russ: oh really?
Omal: and he was our representative and he put in a
passionate plea for the idea, almost lost.
Russ: oh really?
Omal: but, behind-the-scenes maneuvering by him of a
very cleverly orchestrated move assured that he won
by one vote.
Russ: I’ll have to go down and personally say thank
Omal: I will forward your message that you thank him
and I also suggest that you do in person.
Russ: I do too.
Omal: he went out on limb for you.
Russ: well, we have a lot of background together
Omal: yes, I have a voting capability in the Council
here on the base but I do not have a voting
capability in the Command Council.
Omal: I have a voting capability as a commander, but
I cannot vote in the Council that is in charge of
Ashtar Command that Ashtar heads for the simple
reason I would be wearing three hats and nobody is
allowed to wear three hats.
Russ: wow, voting Council of Ashtar Command would
include Korton and…
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: Kuthumi I think is…..
Omal: Kuthumi yes, that is correct.
Russ: another one, yeah.
Omal: Ashtar-Athena is another one.
Russ: oh yeah, that’s right and what's another
Omal: you understand that it is.......nobody wears
more than two hats.
Omal: they delegate people to vote in their stead.
We are not allowed to interfere with their voting.
We can suggest, we can make offers and suggestions
to them but we cannot interfere and say, "this is
the way I want you to vote".
Russ: what I don’t understand though is, with the
idea that Karra and I came up with, it’s really
though an idea for not just us, but it involves the
whole universe practically.
Omal: it involves three very different races.
Russ: right but I mean this is one of the reasons
that I think that it’s important to go through and
I’m sort of surprised that it wasn’t like unanimous
right from the very get-go as people seeing this as
being an idea that was ripe and ready to go. Is it
just because the differences of opinions between the
Omal: yes. Also I would like to invite, a personal
invite, the Arcturians.
Russ: I’ll have to find someone who deals with them.
Russ: oh wait a minute, I’ve got someone who deals
with them don't I?
Russ: no, no, no, no, not Raya, this one.
Russ: the one from......here we go, Sacred Journeys.
Athena Publishing.......yeah here it is, Dr Norma J
Omal: and she probably does have an email address by
Russ: by now, I’ll look her up on the web. That
would bring the Arcturians into it.
Omal: correct, that we can sit down and have a
dialogue of discussions. Something that at the
moment does not happen.
Russ: "I am Kuthumi, your father and guide in the
millennium", she’s channeling Kuthumi.
Russ: I thought she was dealing with Arcturians?
Omal: Kuthumi is an Arcturian.
Russ: I thought he was Ashtar Command?
Russ: oh, I’m confused.
Omal: there is a Kathumi…
Russ: oh, oh, oh.
Omal: not Kuthumi, Kathumi.
Russ: I see.
Omal: it is not an uncommon name.
Russ: chill.......okay, I’ve got it.
Omal: is that the feline that is called Gizmo?
(Tia switches seats with Omal
as he heads off to his meeting)
Tia: there he goes, wandering off out on his way
to his meeting. Oh dear, dear, dear, dear, dear.
Russ: pretty world-shaking events we got there
Tia: uh-huh, yeah, I think that’s a great idea on
setting up that meeting and inviting the
Russ: why is it Karra and I are the first ones to
come up with this? This can’t be an original idea.
Tia: no, I don’t think it is an original idea, I
just think that now……
Russ: just hasn’t been passed in Council before?
Tia: correct, because he did say that it was touch
Russ: well the thing was I think they look at a
lot of different aspects of this. For example,
who’s doing the channeling on the Ashtar Command
side? Well, Mark.
Tia: that gives…..
Russ: big points on our side.
Russ: hey, we’re not going through someone who’s a
Russ: we’re going through somebody they can use…..
Russ: that Ashtar is quite familiar with….
Russ: very familiar with.
Tia: actually, it would be entertaining to watch
Ashtar just get up and wander off with Mark.
Russ: I agree. Now the other point is, how many of
the Council members have seen the webpage?
Tia: probably all of them, I know all the ones up
Russ: okay, well…..
Tia: that’s my department.
Russ: yeah. So basically, that’s going in our
Russ: because they know we’re going to have not
just a minor interest in what’s going on, it’s
going to be on a worldwide basis.
Tia: also, next week, Ashtar will be on the base.
Russ: so we’re going to get to address this issue
Tia: probably yes.
Russ: so let's set some ground rules then?
Russ: I don’t think we’re going to get an opening
statement yet but.......
Russ: we can set some ground rules that won't be
on the web.
Tia: correct, that will be open for debate to
finalize and set everything up.
Russ: right, we can work on some final parts.
Tia: uh-huh. Everybody will be asked to submit
their rules that they wish to have, right?
Russ: so in another words, I start sending out
Tia: uh-huh, requesting if they’re interested to
submit the rules that they wish to use in the
debate. And the rules will be analyzed and we will
send back the ones that we agree with and they
will send back the ones that they agree with and
hopefully we will come up with a set set of rules
that everybody can agree with. Because it has to
be agreed by everybody. It’s not going to be us
saying, "this is the rules" because they may not
like our rules you see. And they submit their set
of rules and we may not like their's but by being
open and saying, "okay, this is how we’re going to
do it, this is our suggestion on the rules. Would
you like to make your own suggestion or remove
those ones that you do not agree with, or let us
look at those ones and arrange them in such a way
that it is beneficial to all parties involved?"
Russ: now a question I’ve had that’s been nagging
on my mind I haven’t been able to work out with
Russ: is, what is going to be the challenges of
doing the debate among multidimensional beings?
Tia: information, everybody’s point of view. Point
of view of the Zetas, point of view of the
Pleiadians, the point of view of the Arcturians
giving everybody on your planet that reads your
page the free option to make up their own mind on
who is the better. Not necessarily the better but
who has the better pathway.
Russ: I think it’s going to be an educational
experience for all parties involved.
Tia: yes, there is that as well.
Russ: everyone who reads it and everyone involved
from all four species.
Tia: uh-huh, we’ve had a dialogue with all four
species in the past.
Tia: but there was always been that animosity. The
fact that we offer one of our city ships for
everybody to get together, it’s not
mutual........it’s not mutual territory.
Russ: yeah, it’s your city ship.
Russ: they don’t have them.
Tia: correct. So therefore there is always that
problem. But this being totally free and a neutral
ground in essence gives that opportunity. You
might contact Spirit Web and inform them of what
you are doing.
Russ: good idea, I’ll send an email off to them
Tia: uh-huh. And maybe they will be able to help
set up a….
Russ: neutral ground?
Tia: yes, neutral ground. Because even though the
Hades Base News is titled Hades Base News, it is a
neutral ground in essence but it has our title on
Russ: yeah, they might not like that just because
it’s promoting our webpage.
Russ: they might not mind promoting Spirit
Russ: because that’s neutral for everybody
Tia: exactly and everybody uses it.
Russ: right, I’ll go through Fire and see what I
can pull off.
(one of the site admins)
Tia: uh-huh, or look at some other possibilities.
Russ: no, I think you came up with a good one.
Tia: uh-huh but also have from there on your
Russ: yeah, of course. We’ll have all four web
Russ: added as links to more information.
Russ: and I’ll add the three other links on my
webpage and they can do the same.
Tia: yes. Anyway, let me put on the next speaker.
(Karra comes on to help
develop the Conference)
Russ: hey babe.
Karra: how is it functioning dear?
Russ: baby, we are going to be working so hard.
Karra: I know, I know.
Karra: language, please dear, do you ever hear me
Russ: do you ever hear me swear?
(Russ starts to chuckle)
Russ: it’s a third dimensional thing that often
times I will use. I don’t know the Sirian
equivalent so I’ll just rough it with earth.
Karra: I don’t swear.
Russ: I know. If I know the Sirian equivalent,
which isn’t bad I’m sure, I'd use that.
Karra: I know them, but I’ve never used them. I’ve
never used them darling.
Russ: teach me, darling, I'll use it.
Russ: I know, I know, I’m kidding.
Karra: one little slip and our children may pick
Karra: they are too young to have that in their
Russ: I don’t cuss around the kids.
Karra: but still, they can read your minds.
Russ: thank you.
Karra: yes, dear.
Russ: fun little session yesterday, darling.
Karra: yes it was.
Russ: did the kids all enjoy that little lesson?
Russ: did they understand that little lesson?
Karra: most of them no.
Russ: I didn’t think so.
Karra: the one little one.
Russ: the girl?
Karra: yes, the young girl, he understood fully
well. It was a lesson more for you than for them.
Russ: why? I know the whole thing between money
and how to buy things and all that kind of stuff.
Karra: the penny, my dear.
Russ: oh, that.
Karra: and how did I describe…..
Russ: and the five-dollar bill, that was a good
Karra: how did I describe the little one? Just
Russ: as a guy.
Karra: exactly, why?
Russ: well it looked like a girl to me.
Karra: it looked very much like a girl to me as
Russ: well then why would you describe it is a
Karra: a lesson in manifestation on a massive
Karra: why do you think the other children just
kind of ignored her?
Russ: that’s pretty good on his part.
Karra: uh-huh but did you notice……
Russ: how did they know I was going to be there?
Karra: he knows when you get up here dear.
Russ: well the message he left on the computer was
pretty self-evident too.
Russ: hologram to how to get there and everything.
Karra: yes but, a lesson in observation, how did
the children react to the little girl?
Russ: well it was just curious, I mean she’s kind
of leading the whole thing.
Karra: uh-huh but how did they react to her?
Russ: well I wasn’t really watching, I was busy
Karra: uh-huh. They kind of followed her but it is
more along the lines of, she was the first one up
towards you, correct?
Karra: and another one followed, and then they all
started to follow.
Russ: right. Well I liked that one little boy that
I brought into it all.
Russ: he was kind of cool about the whole thing.
Karra: yes, very outgoing isn’t he?
Russ: yes, very outgoing.
Karra: uh-huh, he’s naturally like that.
Russ: oh. And David, Michael and Kevin all enjoyed
(Ed. note: our twins and the child of my bondmate
Alana and I)
Russ: because I don’t see them very much anyway so
I think they enjoyed watching their dad at least
Karra: uh-huh, but they knew who the little girl
Russ: oh, they did, huh?
Karra: uh-huh, all the children knew.
Russ: oh. Okay, well that was fun, that was
educational and I’m glad Omal was able to assist
me in that.
Karra: not only was it a learning lesson for the
Karra: but for you as well.
Russ: oh yeah.
Karra: I have a little message for you.
Karra: hold out your hand and manifest the penny.
Russ: on third dimension?
Karra: yes. In fact, sitting on the wood on the
futon here is a penny. Okay, now visualize that
penny and bring it through to the third dimension.
I’ll watch it and see if it fades.
(Russ now concentrates as he tries to manifest a
penny out of thin air)
Karra: didn’t even budge.
Russ: easier on sixth dimension darling.
Russ: it’s a lot less dense of a dimension.
Karra: now the penny's dissolved. That is good,
that is clever.
Russ: who, Omal?
Karra: uh-huh, that is incredible.
Russ: oh good.
Russ: well still, it was a good lesson on all our
Karra: yes it was, it was.
Russ: I’m glad it gave me a chance to practice my
Karra: so, any questions dear?
Russ: well yeah, a lot of questions actually
Russ: and they all of course concern the upcoming
work we’re about to get into.
Russ: now, let’s say for example I go ahead and
contact these various channels?
Karra: yes, yes and no. They will be nervous about
it, they will see it as a possible threat to them
but not to us. So by doing it that way would be a
negative, it has to be done and debated before it
gets it going. When you set it up with Spirit Web,
if Spirit Web agrees, then that’s the way to do
it. No, don't change that, just do it that way.
Russ: go through Spirit Web first and then go
through the various channels.
Karra: that’s what I just said.
Russ: yes but we’re not verbalizing anything
except for you.
Russ: anybody listening to this tape like Mark is
Karra: it’s between us two, isn’t it?
Russ: yes it is darling.
Karra: but no.....no, no, no, no Russ, you’re
missing my point.
Russ: why? It'd work that way.
Karra: yes it would, but it isn't the best way.
Russ: okay, what’s the best way?
Karra: okay, the best way would be to set up the
room or set up the board….
Karra: right? Then contact them individually, not
write out a generic letter. The generic letter
won’t work, it’s got to be individual worded
differently from each other letter, a personal
Russ: especially with Lyssa.
Karra: exactly and explain that this is hopefully
a meeting of the ways so that it can be a better,
beneficial opportunity for the human condition.
Actually, you and Mark should work on it together
because Mark and be very manipulative with his
Russ: all right. We’ll all be working on it too.
Karra: oh yeah, uh-huh. Yes, that’s the way.
Russ: I’m sitting here looking at your picture
Karra: I know but that last thought, yes, that’s
the way to do it.
Karra: okay? Not the other ways, yes, dear.
Russ: all right. So how important is this to the
Karra: not that important but it is something that
is opening a dialogue.
Russ: but doesn’t this make your job easier if
Karra: it will be successful.
Russ: of course it will darling.
Russ: and it will make your job easier.
Karra: correct. Now, I may need your help on the
11th. We have wounded individuals coming in. One
of them is coming in a rejuve cryogenic chamber. I
need extra hands when necessary if you can spend
half an hour helping.
Russ: yeah, that’s no problem.
Karra: now it’s just going to be changing
dressings and talking.
Russ: okay, I’m good at that. I’ll tell them earth
Karra: yes, nice ones……
Russ: of course.
Karra: jokes, nothing to do with blood. Some of
the ones that are going to be in the sick bay are
going to be very mentally distressed.
Russ: can I tell them my kicks are for Trids joke?
Karra: it’s only bright, cheerful, bubbly
Karra: we’ll let our specialists handle their
Russ: all right. Well I’ll tell them about
Christmas and stuff.
Karra: uh-huh yeah. Funny stories but no violence.
Russ: I’ll give them some images of Earth.
Karra: nice ones.
Russ: well yeah, remember the one over there at
Russ: before you do give them the images, check
with whoever’s around and project the image to
them because it may set some of them off.
Russ: okay. Anyway, I’ll do my best.
Karra: uh-huh, yeah. We’re having Kornas come down
and practice some real medicine for a change. The
one in the cryo rejuve tank is going to take a lot
Russ: I’ll be happy to.
Karra: yes, and you won’t be able to go in look at
him, it’s going to be hard on me too.
Russ: I’d rather not anyway.
Karra: uh-huh. Sorry, I didn’t mean to project an
Russ: and I’ll need your help….
Russ: on Thursday…..
Karra: no problem.
Russ: at 11:30 when I go to Dean’s funeral.
Russ: I’ve got to go and deal with his family and
Karra: uh-huh. How are they dealing?
Russ: I don’t know.
Karra: do we know what the results were?
Russ: all I’ve heard is aneurysm or heart attack.
Karra: that’s what I thought. Okay……
Russ: all right my love.
Karra: I got to go.
Russ: bye, see you tomorrow.
(Tia is back with a little surprise)
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, this is going to be a little odd and
Russ: I’m used to that by now.
Tia: uh-huh. She’s going to like this one.
(Taal presents a message from his bondmate Katrina
Taal: "greetings Russ, this is a recording".
Taal: "just wish to thank you for dealing with
little Taan and being patient and taking care of
him when need is most. I appreciate and Katrina
appreciate your help and understanding. Katrina
said to say she feel much better knowing that
little Taan is being looked after by wonderful
people. The thought of him in crèche hurt me and
Taal". "That was from Katrina".
Taal: "this from me, thanks buddy, much
appreciated, see you on flipside".
(Tia is back yet again to make a longer transition
(Tia says hi again in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: got it.
Russ: good job, very nice.
Tia: yes, that was quite entertaining to do that.
We’ve been rehearsing that.
Russ: have you?
Russ: that was very well done.
Tia: that is what we wanted to do last week.
Tia: well not a recording but a direct link.
Russ: but still, that was very well done.
Tia: failing that, a recording works.
Russ: uh-huh. Because it would’ve been tricky last
week anyway with someone having to translate.
Tia: uh-huh. Well, we were going to run it through
the translation unit you see.
Tia: that way, she would hear Russian or Sirian
and you would hear English or Russian.
Russ: oh, even better.
Tia: uh-huh. She would have to think in Russian to
Tia: we did tests, she’s not quite up to doing
that thinking thing yet…..
Russ: oh okay.
Tia: uh-huh, instead of thinking in Sirian.
Russ: how’s Taan doing?
Russ: how is the little one doing?
Tia: oh, he’s doing fine. We’re going to have him
again from tomorrow night until Sunday night.
Russ: I can’t believe I got so bamboozled.
Russ: by Omal, it just blows me away.
Tia: uh-huh, I heard about that.
Russ: got a good chuckle I hope?
Russ: I’m getting a good chuckle now.
Tia: yeah, Mark didn’t know about it. And guess
who’s just arrived?
Russ: Mark, okay.
Russ: well kick him out again.
Tia: yeah, we have, threw a cloak at him. I’m
going to go and dress those wounds of his.
Russ: oh good.
Tia: uh-huh, make him feel much better. Anyway,
going to put the last person on.
Russ: all right love.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondeduun)
(Kiri sits down on the base
futon to start channeling)
Kiri: my, hasn’t it got dark in here?
Russ: yeah, I’ve got to fix that light over there.
Kiri: so, what’s happening?
Russ: no buddy boy this evening?
Kiri: did we get a little hungry buddy boy?
Russ: I was hungry.
Kiri: no need to eat the plate.
Russ: well, you know, it was good food.
Kiri: my, if you were that hungry I’d invite you
up here and you can eat the dishes so we don’t
have them to clean.
Russ: you don’t have them to clean anyway.
Kiri: Tia washes them, Mark washes them. Do you
know how much Mark hates doing the dishes?
Russ: I said, you don't have anything to clean,
when do you clean dishes?
Kiri: I don’t, when it’s my turn I stick them in
the washing machine or send them off to be
recycled except for Tia’s bone china which we only
get out once in a while anyway.
Russ: and which she cleans.
(a cat meows)
Kiri: hello, what can I do for you? Oh I know you,
Tia says you’re the one that swears.
Russ: that was the one that swears. She has
learned manners, she’s become a mother.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, what can I do for you buddy
Russ: well, my sweetheart, my love, my wonderful
Kiri: better not tell Karra what you just said to
Russ: Karra knows all about what I say to you.
Kiri: uh-huh, I thought that was funny actually.
She’s talking to you and answering your questions
and not letting you get a word in edgeways but
you’re asking the questions.
Kiri: that’s going to get a chuckle from Mark,
going to have him very baffled.
Russ: yes, it will.
Kiri: uh-huh. That is why I think she does it from
time to time you know.
Russ: I agree.
Russ: well this whole e-mail thing is going to be
very nice and handy.
Kiri: yes it is, I think that was a great idea.
Everybody is working hard on that except for me
dude but I have my own projects.
Russ: of course.
Russ: I’m sure you’ll be following the outcome of
Kiri: yes. You want to get a cup of tea for me to
Russ: well, of course darling, let me cut the tape
for a second.
(the tape is stopped while a cup of tea is brought
Kiri: anyway, ask away. Put the tape back on.
Russ: it is on.
Kiri: oh. We got about 10 minutes, ask away.
You’re coming to dinner on the 10th, aren’t you?
Russ: uh-huh, yeah.
Kiri: well actually the ninth.
Russ: for Monka?
Kiri: uh-huh. It starts at 10:30 our time.
Kiri: and we’ve got decidedly too many kittens
Russ: only two.
Kiri: we’ve got one, two, one up there, three plus
Russ: what, there’s another one?
Kiri: hey.......he’s behind the couch.
Kiri: I can see his life aura. And then we have
(a kitten cries piteously)
Kiri: Tia wants to know why you are saying that
you are hungry?
Russ: okay, so I’ll be there.
Kiri: okay. Yes, dinner. Well, we’re having a
whole salmon, big one.
Russ: dressed salmon.
Kiri: uh-huh. It’s going to be stuffed with fire
nuts, right? Sweet nuts and lots of herbs.
Russ: which reminds me, how is your dad and Gonzo
Kiri: fine, they’re doing great.
Russ: I need to go up there and say hi and do a
little unofficial meet and greet.
Kiri: okay, in advance notice, the second week in
July I won’t be here.
Russ: oh, are you going up to Sirius?
Kiri: that’s correct.
Russ: good, you’re going to work on that girl?
Kiri: yeah, she had her first major attack of the
accelerated decrepity, one of the problems. She’s
over it, it only lasted a day or so right? But it
had her totally bedridden for the very first time.
Russ: that's not good.
Kiri: no. Also it doesn’t help the fact that
grandmother is also not that well at the moment
Russ: the two are connected.
Kiri: uh-huh. It’s overwork on grandmother’s part.
She was actually told to stop working so hard
because she’s setting everything up and according
to the nurse that I talked to, she said that
grandmother is working hard because she’s trying
to set up all the connections with the guides and
everything to ease Sarah’s final day.
Russ: well, I think it’s safe for grandmother
Kiri: uh-huh. So she’s working harder than she’s
ever worked and the fact that Sarah got sick and
had her first major bout, she’s probably got maybe
four more or five more to go before it gets the
point where her body would just starts to fail and
it would be like old age very quickly upon her.
From what I've heard from the nurse, accelerated
decrepity is a ancient and old illness that is
well-documented and it’s like the last month
basically, the eyesight goes and the hearing
starts to fade and the sense of smell starts to go
but you don’t lose the eyesight totally.
Russ: well when I go up to Sirius I won’t bother
going up to the monastery.
Kiri: no, I wouldn’t, it could be depressing for
you. She doesn’t look like that beautiful young
lady that used to shuffle around the base anymore,
she’s got patches of gray. The next time Karen
complains about the gray in her hair, just tell
her that Sarah has a lot more and is a lot
Russ: well, I’ll go up for a happy visit to go and
see Tanaxa and Gonzo anyway.
Kiri: uh-huh. They’ve also agreed to come to the
base for the farewell ceremony.
Russ: have they?
Kiri: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: well I haven’t seen them since the wedding
and I didn’t see them at the wedding really.
Kiri: no, and Gonzo is expected to go into labor
Russ: which is another reason I want to go up and
Kiri: uh-huh, I would wait until after next week.
Kiri: her due day is the 14th I believe.
Russ: so after that?
Kiri: yeah, but send them a message.
Russ: all right, I’ll work it out through the
computer on the base.
Kiri: okay, I’m going to put Tia back on.
Kiri: catch you later hon.
Russ: bye love.
(Tia returns and gets to finish
out the session talking to her sister mind)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia goes into a conversation in Durondedunn to
the cats in the room)
Russ: I'll put a tape aside here.
(Russ then rings the Tibetan
bowl once more)
(Tia's conversation in
Durondedunn for a bit longer)
Russ: well I’m kind of wiped out here darling, not
energy wise just question wise. Seems like we’ve
been going for a couple hours now.
Tia: uh-huh. Well, the fact that Kiri took so long
with Karen, almost made her late for work.
Russ: that’s true, I guess it was a couple of
(Tia finally gets a reply from one of the cats)
Tia: they’re being shy and bashful now. So
(the phone begins to ring)
Tia: oh, congratulations.
Carrie: ……..this evening, I guess it was at 4
o’clock in the afternoon. She’s beautiful, she’s
Tia: oh that’s wonderful sister mind, wonderful.
Russ: hey, all right.
Carrie: she was just perfect, she was 8 lbs. 15
Tia: oh that’s wonderful.
Carrie: very big baby.
Russ: yep, what’s her name?
Carrie: and she didn’t want to come out.
Tia: she didn’t?
Carrie: I was in labor for 18 hours.
Tia: whoahhhhhh, uuuhhh.
Carrie: and I pushed for an hour and then they had
to take her C-section because my pelvic was too
Tia: oh, everything’s okay?
Carrie: yeah, everything is just fine. I’m really
sore and I’m pretty tired but I had to call you
Tia: oh thank you, thank you.
Russ: what’s her name Carrie?
Carrie: I will give her my midnight shot so I
thought I would call you.
Tia: oh okay.
Carrie: and she’s just beautiful, she’s got a full
jet-black head of hair and it’s wavy and she has
his skin, she has my lips and my nose.
Carrie: I think she has his eyes but she doesn’t
open them long enough for us to know.
Tia: well, we’ll have to see a picture soon.
Carrie: oh you will, you guys will get
announcements. We’re going to get pictures taken
of her either in the hospital or next week at
Walmart. They have like a special, a hundred
pictures for $4.95.
Tia: oh wow.
Carrie: it’s the little tiny ones and we’re going
to make our own, well we're probably going to make
our own announcements.
Tia: you still at the same address, correct?
Russ: did you get my video?
Carrie: sorry guys I haven’t called in so long.
Tia: oh that’s all right.
Carrie: I've been in my own little world.
Tia: I’ve been watching.
Russ: hey, did you get my video?
Carrie: yes we did, thank you so much.
Russ: pleasure, dear.
Carrie: yeah, we really enjoy it. Mike loves it
because he’s learning a lot of new bass riffs off
of it because he gets to see it now too instead of
just hear it.
Russ: hey, what’s the baby’s name?
Carrie: Callie Breann.
Tia: oh cool.
Carrie: Callie, C.A.L.L.I.E..
Russ: oh, Callie.
Tia: that’s a cool name.
Carrie: isn’t that pretty?
Russ: that’s very nice.
Carrie: yeah and Breann, Breann is her middle name
so she’s just perfect you guys, she’s beautiful.
Tia: that’s wonderful and thank you so much for
thinking of us by calling.
Carrie: ohhh, I talk to you guys a lot.
Russ: it was nice you could call in the middle of
a channeling session too.
Carrie: I know, I know, I thought that you guys
might be in one but then I thought maybe you guys
hadn’t started yet it or not.
Russ: oh, we’re just getting ready to end it up in
Russ: we were just getting ready to end it up in
fact, we’ve only got a couple more minutes left on
Russ: so perfect timing.
Tia: perfect timing, yes.
Carrie: so good, good, I’m glad I caught you then.
Russ: well congratulations darling, everybody over
here says congratulations, Karra does.
Tia: on the count to three...
(Tia and Russ sing a very poor rendition of "For
She’s A Jolly Good Fellow")
Russ: oh, that was good.
Carrie: that’s sweet.
Russ: so, are you going to get a phone pretty soon
darling, we can call you up?
Carrie: hopefully in the next couple weeks because
we’re still paying off that other phone bill.
Carrie: so hopefully when we get that dented a
little bit they'll let us have a phone.
Russ: well good.
Carrie: and I won’t be making very many
long-distance phone calls.
Russ: well why don’t you just call collect anytime
you want to darling?
Russ: just call collect anytime you want to, Mark
and me split….
Carrie: I hate doing that.
Russ: why not? Me and Mark split the payments.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: me and the baby are coming in July, we’re
going to San Diego.
Tia: oh, wonderful.
Carrie: we’ll be there for two weeks. I want to
come to Tahoe but it will be too hard.
Tia: yeah, we understand.
Carrie: you know, traveling with a newborn and
Carrie: and so were going to be in San Diego but
we’re moving back next fall.
Tia: oh cool.
Carrie: yeah, we’re going to move back to……..well
we’re going to move to San Diego this time.
Tia: now the tradition on my home planet is, as a
gift to the mother, we send a blanket for the
color of the child in there. It’s blue for girls
and red for boys.
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: well that’s kind of neat. We’re not going
to do too much pink because it’s pink for the
girls in blue for the boys here?
Tia: ahh okay, I’ll come up with a color in
between, kind of a bluey red color. I know, blue
with red in it.
Carrie: yeah, it’s purple.
Tia: oh purple, a purple blanket.
Carrie: we’re going to do like a lot of purples
and teals and the different plaid,
pretty………because that’s pretty much what we’ve
done her room in.
Carrie: because since we didn’t know what it was.
Tia: what’s plaid?
Tia: what’s plaid?
Carrie: by plaid, I mean the intermix of the
pastel colors. The mauves, the pastel blues, the
pastel yellows, things like that and they’re kind
of a muted color.
Tia: oh okay.
Carrie: yeah and we’ve done a lot of variety of
different colors and stuff.
Tia: oh cool.
Carrie: so yeah, it also helps with the
stimulation of the baby, the brighter the room,
the more colors and stuff like that they say it
helps with their learning ability and their
Tia: uh-huh. I’ll also send something like
a……..no, I’ll get Mark to send it, a rabbit of
Carrie: a rabbit.
Tia: uh-huh, for the baby to play with.
Carrie: oh, I thought you meant a real rabbit.
Tia: no, a stuffed rabbit.
Carrie: we got her……..her bedroom is made in
Carrie: teddy bears.
Tia: oh, teddy bears.
Carrie: yeah, we thought that would be the easiest
for everybody instead of going with a theme.
Carrie: because you can buy teddy bears anywhere.
Carrie: so how are things going with you guys?
Russ: oh we’re doing great, we’re doing really
Russ: the weather is beautiful and I just got
through cleaning the garage and going to do some
hiking I think tomorrow.
Carrie: are you?
Carrie: I miss that.
Russ: yeah, going to go to the lakes, do some
Carrie: ahh, I miss that.
Russ: well we’ll send you some pictures or
Carrie: oh please do.
Tia: and Kiri’s telling me she wrote a letter that
Mark hasn’t sent off yet.
Carrie: oh really?
Tia: uh-huh, it was supposed to be sent off about
a week ago.
Russ: two weeks ago.
Tia: two weeks ago and it says in there, now that
you’re getting close, by the time you get this
you'll be real close.
Carrie: well, we were overdue so can’t say I
didn’t take good care of myself.
Tia: well that’s great, you did a wonderful job
there with such a beautiful bouncing baby girl of
eight pounds……..how many ounces?
Tia: whoa, well one more and it would’ve been nine
Carrie: I know, I know. I’m just so glad she came
Russ: what you brought tears to Karra’s eyes my
Tia: I’m just so bouncy and happy and bubbly to
hear that everything is wonderful. I was going to
come down tonight actually, I’m glad that I didn’t
because you wouldn’t have been at home.
Carrie: no, nope, I’m pretty far away actually,
we’re an hour away.
Tia: oh really?
Carrie: yeah. I’m glad you guys.......Mike did so
good as a coach.
Russ: where’s Mike at?
Carrie: he’s at home.
Russ: at home?
Carrie: they send him home.
Carrie: yeah, well he’s been up just as long as I
have, he hadn't eaten or anything but they send
the dad’s home so that the moms get to sleep. So
he went home about nine and he’ll be back about
ten in the morning.
Russ: okay. Well, we should probably let you go to
Carrie: yeah, I do need to get back to sleep
Russ: well all right, well thank you for calling
Tia: I’ll come down, I’ll check out all the
hospitals and I’ll find the hospital that you’re
in and I’ll give you a big, big hug in your sleep.
Tia: I’ll make you have a wonderful, happy,
Carrie: okay. Hey and put a good word in for my
stitches to stop hurting too.
Tia: I’ll see what I can do.
THE TAPE ENDS