Atlantis, After the Fall- 08/26/97
Archivist Notes: We get quite a treat right
off the bat with a channeling from a student surfer
from Sirius who is on the base to study the 3rd
dimension by taking on some the elements he's
studying. In this case it is the surfing culture of
the west Coast he identifies with so he and I hit it
off immediately as I feel right at home from my 15
years of surfing Southern California to help with his
study. Another treat is that this is my first meeting
with Treebeard before he had taken on that moniker and
all we knew him at that time was The Man With the Can.
This makes it an appropriate follow-up to last month's
channeling session where it was Skip and Laura's first
meeting with him. We see how Alzheimer's had began to
take effect from his over 800 years of life on the
sixth dimension and the change between sessions where
it seemed to improve with time instead of get worse.
Tia begins on a review of happenings in both
Wall Street and the White House with a drop in one and
a steady stream of bad news from the other. She
quickly makes way for our first special guest from
Sirius, Monk. As mentioned, he's a young student from
the university on Sirius on a solo field trip to Hades
Base to observe and study the 3rd dimension before
heading back to complete his class work. It was nice
learning of a surf culture on Sirius and of his
revelations on the differences between the two
dimensions as well as his interactions with the
dolphins on Sirius to help with his wave hunting. My
thanks to Tia for her help in arranging his time
speaking through Mark. (Who wouldn't have any clue on
how to speak like that.) Omal joins us before
departing to a Council meeting but prior to leaving,
delivers a short dissertation on the goal of Hades
Base and Ashtar Command of raising the consciousness
of the planet to the next level. He urges against
making a deal out of specifying which dimension that
is. We next meet Treebeard before he was Treebeard. I
had come across him previously on an astral travel
trip to the base so I finally made his acquaintance in
the flesh so to speak. Karra takes up the rest of the
side one talking about the family home on Sirius, an
oncoming sister or brother and how life imitates
A conversation with Kiri on geometry and
astronomy leads to a larger discussion on the types of
the population that left Atlantis at the exodus and
where they settled afterwards. Immediate differences
are seen between Britain and Egypt but signs both saw
the influence of the miners and farmers of Atlantis.
Stonehenge, megaliths and the Great Pyramid all point
to evidence of an advanced form of mathematics and
psychokinetic activity. Also brought up is something
harder to spot but no less obvious, the established
Ley line network kinking various sites of power. A
possibility is put forth that perhaps the larger
overview of the scattered survivors and possible
examples of their architecture is a large scale
version of the continent of Atlantis separated into
many continents though in essentially the same places
they had before geographically. Bunny follows Kiri
fresh off a special performance at the corner bar on
the base. It was a big hit even though I faded out
during the show when I could no longer maintain my
astral form. She had planned to go over an experiment
in probing she had planned but got distracted when
Katrina, one of the pilots on the base who had been
injured in a recent engagement, showed up and she let
her sister take over to sooth Katrina's injuries. Leah
then proceeded to help me with explaining the
differences between the 3rd and 6th dimensions while
expanding on that with that on what it's like to live
sixth dimensionally. She warps up the session with a
fascinating story of how her, her sister and brother
were raised in a family where their father is a member
of Sirian Council and their mother his assistant.
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(Tia begins her duties as Ring
Tia: okay hello, how’s it going Russ?
Russ: good darling, good.
Tia: that’s good. Okay, as we have a…..
Russ: large crowd.
Tia: yes, a large crowd gathering….
Russ: what is this, some kind of like rock concert or
Tia: ominously looming around the outskirts of the pyramid
that I’m sitting in all on my lonesome.
Russ: not for long.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, let’s get down to business. First of
all, stock market. In the past two weeks it's dropped
approximately 400 points, that’s one and a half percent.
Nobody’s screaming and yelling blue murder at this point
however there are rumors wafting around of it developing
into a bear market instead of a bear slash bull market
were it fluctuates and oscillates. We’ll see what happens
before we start issuing general alerts.
Russ: best not to put any money in there right now I take
Tia: actually you could get some real good deals.
Russ: yeah, that’s probably true.
Tia: uh-huh, it’s a matter of sitting and waiting. When
you play the stock market, it’s not get in quick and get
out quick, it’s get in and wait and watch and pick the
right ones. Wouldn't you agree?
Russ: I would definitely agree yes.
Tia: okay now, let’s look at the not so White House, the
tarnished house. You’re going to love this one, you been
following the news reports?
Tia: of the Teamsters?
Russ: not quite.
Tia: and links from the Teamsters to the DNC, money coming
from the DNC to the Teamsters.
Tia: uh-huh, highly illegal. It invalidates the election
of the Teamsters president whose opposition narrowly got
beat. You know who his opposition was?
Russ: yeah of course.
Tia: uh-huh, the son of a former……
Tia: mob related individual who is now giving his support
to the…..I think it’s Giant’s Stadium?
Russ: uh-huh, yeah I remember that joke.
Tia: uh-huh. As was said at the time, they were glad that
they could count on his support. Okay now, a confession of
sorts by I think it was John Huang on a television
interview with Tom Brokaw I believe where he admitted that
he paid $25,000 to see a cabinet official to be met by the
cabinet official who said quote “he can see me as long as
he contributes to my favorite charity”, which he did. It
is again illegal for an individual in office to solicit
Tia: okay, next little incident and confession in the
same, said interview, I’m not quite sure if it was Tom
Brokaw. He wanted to meet with Hillary Clinton and she
said something very similar and it would cost him $50,000.
Okay next tarnished incident. A group of gem dealers in
Florida have themselves pictured in person with Bill
Clinton. They used the pictures in a fraud scheme that
basically said that the president endorsed their product.
Again it is illegal for the White House to endorse any
product so they committed fraud. Now why are all these
people suddenly getting caught? Well it’s because the
press is finally starting to turn on the president. But
the odd thing that I have is we've had drug dealers, arms
dealers, shady characters in the White House, this has
never happened in such a vast numbers and normally FBI
does not know. The FBI in every incident has advised that
these people not be allowed into the White House because
of what’s happening now, it’s coming out of the woodwork.
So what’s going wrong here? Is the president really that
careless of his safety and the safety of his country? I
can’t say, that is pure conjecture. Any questions?
Russ: no, you handled that pretty well.
Tia: okay, now let me put on the guest speaker…..
Tia: first guest speaker. I’ll be back shortly.
Russ: all right.
(A unique guest takes his place in the
Monk: yo, forgive me man, it’s the first time I’ve
Russ: no worries mate.
Monk: pleasure to meet you man.
Russ: a pleasure indeed.
Monk: only been on the base close to two months man, it’s
real cool to be home almost. Going back to Sirius soon.
now who am I talking to?
Monk: they called me around campus Monk.
Russ: okay. Well good to meet you Monk.
Monk: yes, we get things in common to talk about dude.
Russ: all right, besides a certain language similarity.
Monk: yeah man, it’s cool. You ride the nose man or sit on
Russ: on the tail.
Monk: tail yeah, pretty cool.
Russ: short boards.
Russ: I can’t talk them into putting any surf up there on
Monk: I’ll see what I can do, I’ve only got a few weeks
Russ: no worries.
Monk: so in all seriousness dude, you got any questions?
Russ: yeah I do as a matter of fact.
Monk: okay cool, let’s hear them.
Russ: okay, since we both have a knowledge of third
dimension and the different things about it, alright
question I got for you is basically, describe for me the
difference between third dimension and sixth dimension.
Monk: it’s a mindset man, it’s a mindset.
Monk: yeah it’s not so much laid-back and kickback, I
sound as you call it real rad and cool…..
Monk: but still very sixth dimensional. The way I see it
is like knowing who you are, what you have, where you came
from as opposed to not knowing, not caring and having no
Russ: right and for example sixth dimension, you got all
access to all your past lives……
Russ: you've also got telepathic skills.
Monk: oh it’s very useful.
Russ: so you can check out what they’re thinking in
Monk: you’re not allowed to, that’s a no-no.
Russ: oh you’re not? Oh….
Monk: to probe anybody’s mind is a no-no man without their
Russ: oh I figured they’d just be leaking all over the
place and you couldn’t almost help but to pick it all up.
Monk: oh that’s easy, that’s not probing, that’s just
Russ: that’s what I’m talking about it.
Russ: you see?
Russ: it’s not probing, but picking up all the stuff
that’s coming off anybody anyway.
Monk: speak the jive….
Monk: it makes it easier to understand.
Russ: well there’s no word for it, I mean how do you say
Monk: leaking like a sieve dude.
Russ: I call that telepathic conversation.
Monk: oh, that’s eavesdropping.
Russ: okay gotcha.
Monk: you guys should really take more care of the
Russ: oh I know, I know. Hey, I used to surf down in the
south Bay, down by L.A.?
Monk: dude, that’s bad, that’s the pits.
Russ: we’d had garbage spills close the whole
beach for days because of hepatitis scares.
Monk: dude, that’s the pits.
Russ: we couldn't even surf down in Palos Verdes because
it was so bad. I’ve been out in the water with sharks
before, it’s fun. Nothing big, just everybody else got
chased out of the water and we sat out there and caught
all the waves, we never saw a shark once.
Monk: it’s the ones that you don’t see that get you though
Russ: yeah, it’s probably a dolphin, kind of cool to surf
Monk: oh yeah, it’s easy to talk to them too dude. Lying
out there on a board, on a short board, you get one up
next to you and you just link minds, it’s cool, real bad.
Tell you good spots to surf too man.
Monk: ahh….they told ya.
Russ: oh, the dolphins will tell you?
Monk: oh yeah man, talk to those mothers and they’ll tell
you. Yeah you get on their frequency, they’ll talk all day
long, they’ll tell you stories that you haven’t heard in
eons. Told me of one great place, real bad place, dude I
had such a blast.
Monk: oh man, it was a ripper.
Russ: oh, that would be an advantage.
Monk: oh dude, get the spots from the mouth. I’m being
pointed by the chick with the legs, she’s pointing me out.
Russ: oh bummer man.
Monk: the little chick’s smiling and laughing and nodding.
Russ: no doubt. Well Monk, it’s been a pleasure, I hope
I’ll catch you up there when I stop on up.
Monk: let’s see if I can do this right dude. (Flashes the
Hawaiian sign for good waves.)
Russ: shakam bra.
Russ: you got it.
Monk: see you bro.
Russ: see you bra.
Monk: see if I get back some time, if not, send you a
Russ: all right, it’s a deal bud.
Monk: okay dude, out of here bud.
Russ: later mate.
(Omal can stay only for the short time
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: I thought you might enjoy that tremendously.
Russ: that was one of the more enjoyable things I’ve done
in a long time in channeling sessions.
Omal: sad to say, I did not understand much of the
Russ: oh I have to say….
Omal: all these bras and bros and chicks and hits
Russ: yeah, it’s almost like Sirian only in English.
Omal: yes, Sirian I understand, that I did not. What would
you call it?
Russ: hip talk, I don’t know….
Omal: I'll have to look into this.
Omal: this jive talk.
Omal: okay let us first of all cover Tia’s brief
Omal: she’s always on the money.
Omal: it’s all clean.
Omal: it can all be used.
Omal: okay now let us look at monk’s.......I think only as
he is saying, surfer dudes would understand?
Russ: right, good job though…..
Russ: thank you, I appreciate the treat.
Omal: glad that I can assist. As I have a Council meeting
that I need to attend, I will be brief, concise and to the
point and I will leave it up to the wiser individual that
will be sitting in on my place.
Russ: oh excellent.
Omal: okay, let us give the brief dissertation and then I
must be away.
Russ: fair enough.
Omal: okay, let us address following on a topic of
discussion last night, the myths of the fifth dimension.
As Kiri pointed out, there is too many myths to really
cover. This is because as Kiri seems to have a hard time
to understand, I will explain it in a little better
detail. The terms that are used by host bodies and by the
spirits and entities and beings that are channeled use
terms and references that are accepted in your terminology
to make things easier to understand. It does not matter if
someone is talking about the fourth or fifth dimension as
the next logical step, as was pointed out, it’s just
words, it is the concept. After all, in another language,
the words mean something different. The fact that in
common understanding, the forth and the fifth
dimension in the physics world, are two distinct and
totally different non-compatible to life form dimensions
is a moot point. If a physicist was present, the physicist
would understand exactly what Kiri was talking about but
people in everyday general existence would not so
therefore the terminology that is used is but words as was
stated by both Kiri and some of the people present. These
channeling’s have been a success apart from a little bit
of loose mouth which did not really give anything away
but, back to the topic at hand of fifth dimensionalism.
The goal that has been projected is to the higher
consciousness to the point where it is easy to grasp the
next logical step. It does not matter if it is the fourth,
fifth or sixth dimension, they’re words. And by heading to
these goals and trying to structure yourself in a
lifestyle that will lead to understanding of this
objective is what we on the base and throughout Ashtar
Command try to do. Questions, be quick.
Russ: no, no questions.
Omal: okay, thank you.
Russ: my pleasure.
Omal: and I believe live long, prosper and surfs up dude.
Still do not understand that.
(Tia's back but not for long.)
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: yo, very brief, very quick and very out of here.
Russ: I didn’t want to hang him up at all.
Tia: no, that was very kind and considerate of you. Okay,
any questions for me?
Russ: no, I will need to get some news from you in a while
but not just yet.
Tia: okay, yeah. It was good to be able to pull that trick
Russ: thank you…..
Russ: that was wonderful.
Tia: yeah lined it up myself, got it okayed by Omal. First
time I’ve ever been called the little chick. Not quite
sure how to take that.
Russ: well that’s not bad, it’s good.
Tia: oh it is?
Tia: and the tall chick is Kiri, she was going……pointing
him out. Hair's all frizzy and he looks like probably in
his early 30’s at most.
Tia: well tanned, very well tanned.
Tia: he just said that he has a tan from tip to toe, no
Russ: yeah I can imagine. That’s one of those tans I want
to get, hang out at the beach all day.
Russ: I miss that life. Hey, you can’t help but enjoy it.
Russ: the ocean is just an awesome place to dwell in.
Tia: oh, I suppose so.
Tia: got any questions for me?
Tia: okay let’s briefly…..oh we’ll save that for later on.
Okay let me put on the next person.
Tia: okay? Well whilst we wait for the next person to make
himself comfortable……slow-moving you see. Special one.
(Treebeard makes his first
appearance as a guest.)
Russ: hello, are you the gardener of the base I take it?
Treebeard: as Tia and Mark call me……
Russ: the Man With the Can.
Treebeard: yes. This reminds me of a time…..oh, I was
Treebeard: long before my first rejuve. Do you know that
you are over 80% water?
Treebeard: like the cactus, water is hidden in many
different places and forms.
Russ: hmmm, you and I met once.
Russ: well about almost 5 years ago.
Treebeard: that long ago?
Treebeard: seems like yesterday.
Russ: it does seem like yesterday but yes, I came down and
was checking out the plants.
Treebeard: yes, you were very impressed with hydroponics.
Russ: uh-huh, I was very impressed with the work you’ve
done. Is this where the water and plants and
human bodies come from, the correlation between the three?
Treebeard: I would think so. It reminds me….oh long ago
when I was young before my first rejuve, yes hmmm, long
ago. Do you know that plants can grow under rock?
Russ: like moss you mean?
Russ: algae oh yes.
Treebeard: I think you would call it 2 mm……
Treebeard: your measurement? Plant life can exist and
under ice. I remember back home, a spring long ago.
Russ: hmm, a question for you.
Russ: why is it that you cannot grow the flowers in a
Treebeard: all flowers grow.
Russ: I mean the flowers that you eat.
Treebeard: oh, those.
Russ: those yes.
Treebeard: there are too many different factors.
Russ: oh really?
Treebeard: many different factors.
Russ: and you cannot copy those same factors that they
Treebeard: no it is…...
Russ: in an artificial environment.
Treebeard: it is too controlled.
Russ: oh really?
Treebeard: if we tried here, you need the certain thin
atmosphere with the right amount of radiated heat. Also,
you need the right amount of snow depth. This year was
like a year….oh I remember.
Russ: so you’d have to have actually it’s own little
greenhouse almost with snowfall and everything to make
that happen, it would be a dedicated project.
Treebeard: yes, long ago I remember it well. It was as
good as…..sorry, what was I talking about?
Russ: oh the flowers?
Treebeard: flowers yes.
Russ: edible flowers.
Treebeard: yes, I remember the flowers. This year’s
harvest was as good as the harvest I remember the spring
of my first rejuve.
Russ: ahh, that would be the pink flowers I take it?
Treebeard: yes, that would be my 9th daughter came from
Russ: umm, which reminds me, happy birthday.
Russ: oh a little while ago. I think it was….
Treebeard: oh yes, yes.
Russ: yes, I wrote it down in our chronicles that we have
here on our planet.
Treebeard: hmm, you are a chroniclist?
Russ: uh-huh, yes and we chronicled your birthday.
Russ: and celebrated it down here you might say.
Treebeard: do you know the human body is 80% water?
Russ: I’ve heard that yes.
Russ: I try to drink much as I can too.
Treebeard: yes, yes, water.
Treebeard: plants are interesting things.
you had a chance to talk with plants?
Treebeard: I talk to the plants all the time, some talk
back others, no word.
Russ: hmm, what’s the difference in why they do that?
Russ: really? More plants have more feelings you might say
Treebeard: some, some.
Russ: for example, a plant that talks and the planet that
Treebeard: plants that talk are not plants. Feelings of
comfort are what plants talk.
I see. So when he water them, a big emotional kind of
Treebeard: in the way yes. Hmmm, yes flowers, the flowers
no, it is
too many different factors that go into the……..yes that
was a nice year. Ahhh, I shall never see the likes again.
She does well you know, my daughter.
Russ: do you talk to her at all?
Russ: has she visited the base?
Russ: and how did she like it?
Russ: why not?
Treebeard: too confined for her.
Russ: ohhh, it’s a beautiful base.
Treebeard: she is a botanist.
Russ: oh really?
Treebeard: likes big, wide open spaces. Suffers a little
of claustrophobia, not good on here.
Russ: but your garden must have been rather enlightening
Treebeard: yes, yes.
Russ: it almost gives a freedom of space.
Treebeard: yes, my little home.
Russ: indeed, I’m glad you’re able to come and chat with
me this evening.
Treebeard: yes, I must attend to my bladder.
Russ: ahh, well thank you for helping me out with my
Treebeard: hmm flowers yes………80% water.
(Tia catches us up real quick.)
Russ: hey Tia.
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn.)
Russ: how’s it going love?
Tia: it’s going fine.
Russ: excellent. Nice old man, I like him.
Tia: yes. Difficult conversation wasn’t it?
Russ: not at all actually, it was not as bad as Mark has
led on to be anyway.
Tia: he was actually very focused tonight.
Russ: he seemed very lucid to me, you know a couple points
where he’d drift off a little bit but nothing like…..
Tia: oh memories.
Russ: I was led to….
Tia: you might want to remove the bar......
Russ: oh yes.
Tia: unless you have great strength.
Russ: come on you guys, come on. (Talking to teh cats who
had ben waiting for me to open the door.)
Tia: oh, got a whole load of holo disks.
Russ: oh, tell me about it.
Tia: oh, from Lyka?
Tia: uh-huh, she’s doing fine but she’s also looking
forward to coming home.
Russ: well I can imagine.
Tia: uh-huh, only two months to go on her tour.
Russ: well good.
Tia: sent her a holo myself telling her and Mark told her
as well that to be extra careful towards the end.
Russ: good. Hey so question for you darling.
Russ: so who can I work with on history…...earth history
Tia: no, you might try Kiri or Karra.
Russ: I’ll work on it.
Tia: uh-huh. But yeah that was a very interesting
discussion with the Man With the Can.
Russ: that was quite good actually, I liked that part
about the plants.
Tia: yes, he kept on going back to 80% water.
Russ: well it was probably on his mind.
Tia: yes, it’s funny.
Russ: well his bladder problem or bladder need was
probably on his mind a bit there.
Tia: yes probably.
Russ: 80% water, I’d like to lose about 2% of that right
Tia: yeah his mind was wandering all over the place,
mainly plants though.
Tia: he always starts his conversations with cactuses.
Russ: does he?
Tia: uh-huh, he’s fascinated by cactuses.
Russ: they're fascinating little creatures.
Tia: I didn’t know they lived?
Russ: uh-huh, absolutely.
Tia: uh-huh. I think somebody ought to go and help him, I
can hear him thrashing around in the bamboo out there. I
can see him from time to time, I think he’s lost in the
Russ: easy to do, he's probably studying it.
Russ: nice strand of bamboo and you’ve got there.
Tia: probably, probably standing there and Kiri says that
I shouldn’t say anything because he’s very receptive.
Russ: almost as good as you huh?
Tia: uh-huh, almost as good as I. But getting back to
Tia: I told him to speak in plain English. If that was
Russ: that was plain English.
Tia: I didn’t understand it.
Russ: I understood every word. You had to be there.
Tia: yes, I guess one had to be there.
Russ: it’s like the 60’s all over again.
Tia: chick I know what it means, dude we know, bra, I wear
Russ: well yeah but I am one.
Tia: don’t look like one to me.
Russ: brother in a Hawaiian sense.
Russ: but they instead of brother, they say bra or bro.
Tia: ahh. Bro is brother.
Russ: Bro is brother so is bra.
Russ: bra is bro, only slanged out in Hawaiian and used by
certain surfer individuals and others.
Tia: and what was this hand thing?
Russ: shakam bra, another Hawaiian symbol.
Russ: it means go get the waves man.
Russ: caught the wave.
Tia: and what else did he mention? I’m fascinated by the
lingo. I’ve never heard it. Yes I’ve heard somebody talk
Tia: the blonde haired guy, used to sit in that chair very
Russ: you mean John?
Tia: no, young blonde…..
Russ: you mean Ryan.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: he didn’t talk like that as much.
Tia: a little.
Russ: a little.
Tia: actually it looks a little like him apart from Ryan
could do with an extra I should say probably 3 inches,
little longer hair, more frizzy. Same sort of red tan to
him. I better go, I’m going to give him a hand.
Russ: all right, bye love.
(Karra ends the side.)
Russ: hi love, how’s it going?
Karra: it is going well.
Russ: well good. Enjoyable conversation from our friend
Karra: yes, yes very lucid. Very deep and thoughtful. I
think he lets people think that he’s worse than he is.
Russ: well it’s probably just, he’s probably right
Karra: he’s a lot more lucid than people think he is. He’s
more interested in his plants and ants than anything else.
Tia was trying to get him to talk and explain the can…..
Karra: and wouldn't have anything to do with it. Probably
knows exactly how it works.
Russ: well I’m sure he does.
Karra: uh-huh. But he seems easier to distract then he
used to when I first gave him his first physical.
Karra: so, we had fun didn’t we Wednesday night?
Russ: Wednesday was fun.
Karra: oh yes.
Russ: and I’ve been working on a few different things for
questions this evening. Is Bunny coming in do you think?
Karra: yes she’ll be in in a few.
Russ: I’m going to save this one for her then.
Russ: I want her to work with me on this one.
Russ: get some serious stuff out of her for a change.
Karra: okay. As it’s a free night I haven’t prepared any
notes as you well know.
Russ: as I well know.
Russ: yes so that was fun, it was fun watching her dance
up on stage.
Karra: oh yeah.
Russ: she’s a terror.
Karra: she’s a real tease too.
Russ: sorry I couldn't stick around for the whole thing
Karra: oh that’s all right, she made up for your
Russ: Sunday was good…..
Russ: glad I stopped off to see the kids and everything, I
loved that. Now what about that painting that Miranda drew
Karra: she had seen pictures of home.
Russ: oh she has?
Russ: I thought it might be just memories.
Karra: oh, it could be some memories but…...
Russ: but she’s seen pictures and just knew that that was
the family home?
Karra: yeah. Well you remember the conversation that I was
eavesdropping on that you and Mark were having about how
spiritually meaningful home was?
Russ: oh yeah right, how spiritual it is to anybody whose
part of a family.
Karra: uh-huh yes it’s…..
Russ: it’s a spiritual kind of….
Karra: it’s more than that.
Russ: sacred place almost.
Karra: yes, it is a sacred place for us.
Russ: it’s probably a sacred place for a lot of people on
Karra: no, only for our family as far as I know.
Russ: well isn’t that where the rock that was described in
the story from Kiri?
Russ: is that?
Karra: yeah, the house is built on it.
Karra: but that’s just the line, our line, are link to
Sarra. (From the Sirian Chronicles.)
Karra: uh-huh. A lot of it is legend that can’t be proven
or substantiated and a lot of it is true. The next time
you go home, I’ll take you down into the cellars.
Russ: okay, I’d like that, I don’t think I’ve seen the
Karra: yeah and you can see.....well you know where the
Karra: that wall that is all rock and rock stone that’s
Russ: I haven’t been down there though.
Karra: oh pity, pity.
Russ: your dad’s only taken me up in the study and stuff
Karra: he hasn’t shown you our wine cellars?
Russ: he hasn’t shown me the wine cellars.
Karra: his pride and joy?
Russ: no, you have to remember, I was only there as almost
like……I wasn’t there as a tourist, I was there to have a
chat, drinking tea…..
Karra: yes, he took you to his office didn’t he?
Karra: that’s almost directly above it actually.
Russ: we had a really nice glass of wine though that one
Karra: yeah well the wall that is the…..sorry?
Russ: nice claret.
Karra: of course. The wall that is the entrance way into
the cellars is the back wall from the original cabin.
Karra: and the house was built up around that. Everybody’s
added their own little part to it, every head of the
Russ: what’s your dad done?
Karra: his office.
Russ: oh that’s his?
Karra: uh-huh, he remodeled it. He didn't add a new a new
room, he just remodeled the room and made it basically a
new room. He is talking about putting a play room for his
newest child. You know she’s pregnant again?
Russ: is she?
Russ: Gonzo’s pregnant, neat.
Russ: well good for her.
Karra: she still has a hard time though.
Russ: why is that?
Karra: well with the servants but they’ve accepted her
Russ: well she’s almost like that original…
Karra: yes she is a little bit.
Russ: of who the story's built up around.
Russ: in fact, he’s a lot like the guy in that story.
Karra: yes he is. I always….
Russ: what a coincidence.
Karra: I’ve always thought that it was my mother that was
the original but maybe it’s an attraction of the two types
Russ: I would say so.
Russ: your dad probably didn't really like the more
affluent members of the society probably..
Karra: no, I don’t think he does.
Russ: female wise.
Karra: he’s more attracted to simple but intelligent.
Karra: yeah more into simple ways of living. Out the whole
entire house, this is funny, they could live and move
around as free as they want and she sticks basically to
their little apartment and will go out the back door. It’s
funny, mother was much the same. They lived when mother
was alive as mother, they lived at the other end of the
house, you know that wing that’s close to the servants
Karra: that’s what they lived.
Karra: that’s where I grew up. I had full run of the
house. She didn’t mind going into the library or the
study's or down to the cellars or anything, she didn’t
mind that at all. Gonzo from what I’ve heard is very
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Karra now takes on the job of two people.)
Karra: quite a
crowd here tonight. We’ve had two guest speakers already.
Karra: we have two pseudo-guests to go and I’m now filling
in as Tia’s not back yet.
Russ: no problem.
Karra: no, no problem and I am doing the Omal routine.
Should I give an explanation and look on (Alonda's?)
conversation with you?
Karra: Omal, how can I do it like Omal?
Russ: what can I use on the webpage?
Karra: you can use pretty much of it, it would be hard to
follow I think.
Russ: I’ll have to edit it heavily.
Karra: uh-huh and put it in chronological order as it did
loop quite frequently.
Russ: no problem.
Russ: we’ll just take it and just work it out.
Karra: okay, she’s back.
Karra: okay catch you in a few hon.
Russ: bye sweetheart.
(Tia returns to make the next hand-over.)
(Tia says high in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, who’s being loud?
Russ: loud? Oh the kittens, I got both of them in my lap.
Russ: purring like harmony here.
Tia: yes harmony, harmony, harmony, harmony,
harmony……..no!!!! Okay, I’ll put the next speaker on.
Russ: all righty.
Tia: and we'll have the two guests at the end.
(Kiri gives us a history lesson.)
Kiri: yo, he lost me you know when he was talking like
Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.
Russ: I thought you’d follow along totally with that.
Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.
Russ: you’ve been supplanted.
Kiri: well only the once, he’s not got the hip movements
Russ: no, that’s true. So anyway, we are working on this
Russ: Pythagoran geometry and astronomy.
Kiri: oh cool, cool dude.
Russ: and in regards to the Stonehenge….
Russ: and the various other megalithic sites throughout
Russ: particularly Britain.
Russ: okay, now according to what I’m reading here…..
Russ: the ancient builders of Stonehenge and these
megaliths had an Einsteinian knowledge of Pythagoran
geometry way before Pythagoras was even born.
Russ: and astronomy to such a degree that it would take
almost telescopes and computers to figure out the exact
alignments that they came up with.
Kiri: uh-huh, which are accurate.
Russ: which are very accurate. So that only leaves one
suggestion about where the science came from.
Russ: which would be Atlantis.
Russ: now my theory on this is that the reason the
knowledge came through so clearly is that it came from one
particular race of beings who left Atlantis and settled in
the northern part of England.
Kiri: I think we’ve covered that, I think we have dude.
Russ: well we have yeah but I mean we haven’t covered to
this angle yet.
Kiri: okay, let me hear you out.
Russ: okay, now when we covered it last, we covered the
fact that the group in question with the miners of
Kiri: some of them yes.
Russ: some of them who left and settled in parts of
Scandinavia and parts of Britain.
Russ: okay. Now at the time, all we discussed about then
were the fact that they continued their mining's…..
Russ: and we still have relics of those basic
Russ: well for their part, mines today.
Russ: now in this respect then we're seeing a whole other
level of science added on to that…..
Russ: to where mining is not even involved which…...
Kiri: yes it is, yes it is.
Russ: in a certain way, but there’s something else besides
this, this wasn’t strictly their work.
Russ: this was something that goes beyond that…..
Russ: the fact that it seems like it’s more almost Sirian.
Kiri: well you've got to remember you’re dealing with a
group of individuals that have to know mathematics and
Russ: to work out the basic structures of the weak points,
strong points of holes they're digging in the ground.
Kiri: and the shafts that their digging and how to shore
up the shafts and so on.
Kiri: so you’ve got to have a very sophisticated level of
Kiri: and a very high understanding of mathematics.
Kiri: so that’s where the geometry comes in.
Kiri: because certain shapes have certain strengths and
certain strengths can be used for safety.
Kiri: after all, you have to remember that if a group of
miners get trapped underground, they’ve got to be able to
go to a safe area where they can work out and a relief
party can work in.
Kiri: otherwise they end up dead very quickly.
Kiri: and to minimize fall-ins and cave-ins and so on,
you’ve got to know the certain structures to be able to
create an area that there is less of a chance of a
Russ: but now see this doesn’t include the astronomy part,
that’s where the second group comes in.
Russ: and so…...
Kiri: from what I understand though, it wasn’t just the
mining groups that ended up there.
Russ: right, it wouldn’t seem to be, it looks like they
were still working with other you know other members of
the Atlantian community.
Russ: but the one thing I don’t understand is, maybe I do,
the astronomy part….
Russ: came in so that they can regulate the timing of
solar eclipses, times of the seasons…….
Russ: for growth and basic parts of the year.
Russ: which is where the astronomy part comes in.
Russ: the building part obviously helps in the aid of
Russ: but the one thing that comes into being here that
I’m questioning is, movement of the stones.
Russ: okay? What we’re seeing is the same kind of design
we saw with a pyramid whereby they were using
Russ: to maneuver the stones into place, take them from
rock quarries a 130 miles away and place them with the
exactness that they did.
Kiri: well if you look at where the rocks supposedly came
from right which is where?
Russ: the majority came hundred a 130 miles away, the blue
Russ: give me a second I can tell you.
Kiri: we can go and ask Mark if you want, send somebody to
Russ: oh no, no, no, it’s right here. Yeah here it
is.......I thought it was. Give me a second.
Kiri: tick-tock, tick-tock. (hums the Jeopardy theme.)
Russ: here we go......okay, the blue stone’s okay? Came
from a Welsh quarry….
Russ: which was a 130 miles northwest of Salisbury plain.
The sarsen slabs were brought from the Marlboro Downs
about 20 miles north of the site……
Russ: and since wheeled vehicles were unknown in Britain
during the time of Stonehenge’s construction, the
long-distance transportation involved with moving these
massive rocks is the most astonishing feats……
Russ: that were accredited to the builders.
Kiri: uh-huh. Tia’s just arrived back and she goes,
Russ: Welsh quarry.
Kiri: yes now, what is Wales famous for?
Kiri: apart from Welshman.
Russ: oh, the Celts.
Russ: Wales, Wales, Wales, Wales. Why does that question
sound so familiar, what is it famous for? I’d have to say
it would probably be some famous archaeological site?
Kiri: no, go down to Virginia City and look around, what’s
Russ: what, mines?
Russ: oh, coal or something?
Russ: what is that, Newcastle or something is in Wales?
Kiri: I don't know.
Russ: coals from Newcastle? Oh.
Kiri: I don’t know.
Russ: it’s not my country.
Kiri: it’s not my planet. Beat you…ah-ha. It’s not my
dimension, top that one.
Russ: you got a point.
Kiri: uh-huh. But anyway….
Kiri: mining, think about it dude. You’re cutting blocks
Kiri: what group of individuals would be the ideal people
to be stonemasons?
Russ: that would be the miners of course.
Kiri: of course dude. So, you’ve got a whole load of
granite that needs cutting right? What do you do?
Russ: you cut it up and you transport it.
Kiri: you go to the locals who happen to be miners, “hey
dudes, we got some rock here, could you cut it for us?”
Russ: no problem.
Kiri: the problem. So you have two groups of individuals
Russ: hmm, now check this picture out. This was
found…..these were some stuff that was found at the site.
It's attributed to the Mycenaean’s.
Russ: which led them to believe that possibly the Greeks
had built it.
Russ: well we know that’s not true but we know where that
came from actually.
Russ: we know the original of that. Yes, it is Grecian in
Russ: or Mycenaean in style, but the Mycenaean’s had
borrowed that from somewhere else anyway.
Kiri: and we know where dude.
Russ: and we know where.
Kiri: God, he’s got me talking like him.
Russ: so we know that okay after looking at this…..
Russ: and looking at how the stones were moved….
Russ: .....who cut them, we kind of get a clearer picture
of how they were built, why they were built…
Russ: but that leads us into the next problem is okay,
where is the rest of it? Is that it? A few trinkets and
Stonehenge and a bunch of megaliths, that’s it? No, we
Kiri: we have mines, we have power grids.
Russ: right. We have mounds.
Kiri: uh-huh which a majority of them are tombs.
Russ: right. We also have things like Salisbury Hill and
Kiri: Salisbury Hill?
Russ: it’s a famous mound, a lot of energy there.
Russ: Glastonbury Hill, a conjunction of Ley lines.
Russ: Tor, correct.
Kiri: Glastonbury Tor, it’s not a hill, it’s a Tor.
Kiri: with a church on there.
Kiri: and a very spiritual pathway.
Russ: correct which I believe is linked with Stonehenge
somehow or another.
Kiri: you’d have to ask somebody that knows something
Russ: I haven’t looked in that part of it yet.
Russ: I can find out.
Kiri: ask a Celt.
Russ: I will ask him when he gets back. So….
Kiri: not a kilt, a Celt.
Russ: yes well we’re seeing now then that there is a
Russ: and what we could say than is this is the founders
Kiri: ohhhhh, that will upset him.
Kiri: England is only a part of it, what does Mark say he
Russ: oh British…
Russ: okay, Britain. But we’re seeing now……..okay, here’s
another clue. Okay, where you look at, there’s some
50,000…..the most megalithic sites…
Russ: you know where all these things are? In England,
there’s 50,000 in all. The greatest concentration of
megaliths are found in Western Europe, North Africa,
primarily in Britain, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France,
Scandinavia and Algeria.
Russ: okay? But this doesn't mention the other end of that
Kiri: uh-huh, which is?
Russ: which is Greece, Egypt......well North Africa I
guess that could be Egypt because you've got the obelisks.
Kiri: yeah, totally different.
Kiri: totally different group of individuals.
Communication between them, certainly. All heading towards
one goal which I haven't got the foggiest of what it would
be a great disaster, probably survival and communication.
Russ: I’d say it'd be more……..well here’s the whole topper
Russ: if you look around the world after the disaster of
Russ: you see sites set up all around the world that
individually they're unique to that part of the world.
Russ: but if you group them altogether, what you’re seeing
is Atlantis on a larger scale.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah but so spread out through……you know
it’s many Atlantis’.
Russ: right, you have to look at it and actually take the
Kiri: and bring it together and you get……
Russ: at one small island.
Russ: well one large continent.
Kiri: yeah, but it’s more than that, you’re getting parts
of a city brought back together, a capital city brought
back together. This is my opinion and my opinion only is
that you’ve got the miners right? And the agriculturalists
that end up scattered all over the place, the mass
concentration is in Europe. You have a group of miners and
agriculturalists that are together right?
Kiri: they try to re-create their area.
Kiri: because if you take mining right? It brings rock and
sterile stuff out of the ground which can be put on the
ground to be used as fertilizer and all sorts of
interesting things. Lime for example and so on which is
good for the ground so that the miners and the
agriculturalists would tend to exist together.
Kiri: so that you have these two groups working together
on Atlantis, they escape and a large group of them that
end up in Europe and scattered all over Europe are still
grouped together because you know they're running for the
boats as the island goes down and explodes and whatever so
you're going to get a mixture of them together.
Russ: right, you also see some of those miners going off
to Egypt too.
Russ: I mean some of that work in Egypt was just beyond
Kiri: of course, of course but......
Russ: the Sphinx for example….
Kiri: yeah but you see what I’m saying?
Russ: but that’s a whole other style of mining.
Russ: I mean the Sphinx is so different from Stonehenge as
to be almost two complete cultures so therefore you’re
seeing the miners with a different group…
Kiri: uh-huh, catering to the different group.
Russ: to a more I would almost call it a higher class.
Kiri: it's more along the lines……
Russ: it’s not agriculturalists.
Kiri: that’s right.
Russ: as it so much more aristocracy.
Kiri: you’re dealing with a group of individuals in Europe
that are agriculturalists and miners….
Russ: right, who have to know that the seasons….
Kiri: uh-huh, very important for them.
Kiri: you see one cannot exist without the other you see?.
Russ: right, so they trade-off the agricultural goods that
they get for the mine work they get to help them learn to
chart the seasons.
Kiri: correct. In Egypt, where it’s almost a year-round
harvesting type thing...
Kiri: and a different type of lifestyle, you don’t need to
have such a high reliance on the seasons because there’s
basically two seasons
Kiri: drought and rain. But you have to have things to
store the grain in and the food.
Russ: almost scientists.
Russ: if you look at the pyramid and some of the other
works among Egypt, you're seeing more of an alignment with
Kiri: uh-huh and you’re seeing a lot of mathematical
Russ: a lot of working with the sun.
Russ: right, a lot of mathematical precision. A lot more
so that you see it with Stonehenge….
Russ: but you see it in greater quantity…..
Kiri: yeah but you see the mathematics would be the
mining, the astronomy and the alignment would be more
aristocratic and nobility. It might be better to say that
there were two main groups that survived that ended up in
Europe in the mining groups and the agricultural groups
but there was also the affluent miners and the affluent
Russ: right, the aristocracy.
Kiri: uh-huh and more of them ended up in Egypt but some
ended up there and the same with the farming, fewer of the
farmers ended up in Egypt, More of the…
Russ: more of the scientist class…..
Kiri: that’s correct.
Russ: ended up….
Russ: in Egypt.
Kiri: yeah. Which tells you what about the island?
Russ: about England or Britain?
Kiri: no, about Atlantis.
Russ: oh Atlantis, oh.
Kiri: if you look at Atlantis, let’s say this is
Russ: well it's showing that everything is more grouped
Kiri: let’s say this is Atlantis right?
Kiri: you’ve got northern Europe over here, you’ve got
Kiri: you’ve got the America's here.
Kiri: right? Now, where is your mass concentration of
agriculturalists and miners?
Russ: it’s going to be on the northern side, on the
Kiri: of the island.
Russ: right because that’s where you’re going to get
Kiri: mass concentration over here of survivors.
Russ: well your trade winds…..
Russ: and everything are going to be coming that way.
Kiri: yes but what I’m saying is that the survivors,
miners and farmers, the majority of them ended up over
Kiri: whereas down here, we got a bunch of……
Russ: wait a minute, the capital city was down there in
the southeast. What was it, was it called? Atlan or
something like that?
Kiri: something like that. So you’ve got down here you’ve
got more of the aristocracy and so on.
Kiri: right? And a few miners. Now that tells you about
Atlantis here right? What have you got?
Russ: well that would be…..okay we know the Mayans came
from…..Mayans and Indian…..American Indians were in the
Kiri: uh-huh, they were over here.
Kiri: so you’ve got coming from the side of the island,
surviving going this way….
Russ: which group of people? The red skinned group.
Kiri: that’s right.
Russ: but they're also down the Southwest of the island,
North and Southwest. They're spread on that whole western
Kiri: because it was more like home for them.
Russ: hmm what, more…..?
Kiri: more luscious, grasslands and forest lands.
Russ: oh really?
Kiri: uh-huh, whereas over here you have a more barren
agricultural type area whereas here you have more of a
warmer tropical area.
Kiri: so and here, you have the capital city and so on. So
the survivors flee, you’re not getting any of the forest
dwellers coming across to the side as the island goes up,
they’re all going this way and this way and you have going
this way the miners and the agriculturalists and a few of
the aristocracy and then this way you have a lot of
aristocracy, a few farmers and a few miners. Going this
way you have a few miners right? And a few aristocracy and
a lot of….
Russ: it seems the miners were all over the island.
Kiri: uh-huh exactly.
Russ: because if you remember, if you look at you know
Russ: and Central America….
Kiri: there is mining.
Russ: there is mining on a great scale.
Russ: giant constructions that are totally mysterious in
Peru for example.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.
Russ: the size of this house, blocks the size of this
house make up a wall.
Russ: and that is very familiar to the Bimini Wall.
Russ: in the southwestern side of the island near Florida.
Russ: which we see the same size and sort of blocks there
as we see in Peru.
Russ: so we’re seeing that exodus there but then that also
brings in the question of well there’s also Lemuria to be
brought into this.
Kiri: yeah, exactly. So it’s not a complete equation,
there is a lot…..
Russ: there’s a lot of missing parts.
Kiri: oh yeah.
Russ: but there’s a lot more cleared up.
Kiri: okay, more questions?
Russ: thank you dear.
Kiri: no worries dude. I’m going to go off and talk to
Monk and then I’ll see about dealing with Mark.
Russ: later tall chick.
Kiri: yeah, tall chick. He called me the slick chick.
Russ: slick chick with a chain.
Kiri: yeah I was looking at him and going, “dude, come on
man.” No I was going, “dude, come on, out of there dude.”
Russ: oh, that was you?
Russ: I mean that was how you were doing it?
Kiri: see you later dude.
Russ: bye darling.
(Tia's in and out quickly.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: all right.
(Karra as Omal as only Karra can.)
Karra: well hello again.
Russ: hi sweetheart.
Karra: hey, doing the Omal routine.
Russ: so what do you think, we can put a little map or
something on the page?
Karra: we can try.
Russ: maybe just pick a little graphic and make this group
here, this group here, miners all around kind of thing and
kind of just put it…...
Karra: yeah, take pictures of your planet as it is.
Russ: you mean scan it maybe?
Karra: no, you should be able to load something off the
Russ: hey you know you’re right, I probably could.
Karra: uh-huh. Get a graphic computer to do it, give him
something to do.
Russ: yeah, get something like.......yeah that’s a good
Karra: uh-huh and I believe he has some drawing
Karra: okay, I think pretty much all of that can go, we'll
have to wait until we get the okay from Omal because there
are some things said that….
Karra: yes, very questionable.
Russ: well not very questionable.
Karra: well you know Kiri.
Karra: she likes to walk on the edge and word things in
such a way that's later that you see them.
Russ: all right, we’ll just put it to be continued later.
(Tia makes way for Bunny.)
Tia: okay, I'll put on the next guest speaker, well
(Bunny brings her usual fun with her
to the channeling.)
Bunny: yo hello.
Russ: is this Bunny?
Bunny: of course.
Russ: hi Bunny, how you doing darling?
Bunny: much, much better.
Russ: well that’s good.
Russ: why, what did you do?
Bunny: I’m over my period.
Russ: oh that’s right.
Bunny: I’m not leaking and bleeding all over the place.
Russ: the red tide's left.
Bunny: the red tide dyed is gone. I'm…..
Russ: back in fashion.
Russ: good deal.
Bunny: yeah, starting to kick back in as well.
Russ: will you had a wonderful show anyway.
Bunny: glad you liked it.
Russ: oh I did but as I warned you, my ability to hang
around for a long time….
Russ: is not quite what it should be.
Bunny: well I threw my panties at where you were sitting,
that’s the first time I noticed that you were gone.
Russ: oh when I suddenly disappeared, they landed where
nothing else was left.
Bunny: I wanted to come over and I couldn’t get down
through the crowd. I wanted to come over and get you to
suck my fingers.
Bunny: uh-huh, when I dance, I pick out people to do
things for me.
Russ: so anyway, the question I have for you this evening
Russ: which is strictly yours to answer.
Bunny: does it involve sex?
Bunny: does it involve lovemaking?
Russ: nope. Actually it does sort of involve lovemaking in
a sort of way.
Bunny: oh I’m an expert.
Russ: okay, well you're also an expert in this.
Russ: and this is concerning telepathy.
Russ: okay, and what I’m looking at here is the ability to
have telepathy on a better scale….
Russ: a better ability and what I’m thinking is is your
Russ: are more awakened when you’re working on probing or
telepathic communication and you can raise your vibrations
up to a higher frequency.
Bunny: uh-huh. Actually you just brought up an interesting
point earlier on when you’re talking to the strange one
over there. No, he’s gone.
Bunny: uh-huh, I was listening.
Bunny: uh-huh, but there is a very interesting point and
that is when somebody is in a state of anxiety or sexual
arousal, it is easier to probe them.
Bunny: do I have your permission?
Russ: of course.
Bunny: okay good, good, good. You know what I’m asking?
Bunny: okay, now it can be used the other way as well.
When you are in a state of sexual arousal, you can use
that energy to be able to sooth because a sexual state
could be very soothing, not only for yourself but for
somebody else. So you can sooth them and be able to probe.
Now I’d like to try a little experiment towards the end of
the session so what I will do is when I finish my piece
Bunny: I’ll get warmed up and then we’ll come back and I
will see if I can get it to congeal so that we can try.
Bunny: and it will get me also into the state where I am
very able to be receptive and to probe in a very sensual,
pleasurable way that will be able to make you more open.
Bunny: good, good, good, good, good, I can wrap her around
my little finger if I wanted. Hello, who is that that’s
just walked in, she is a…..
Russ: I don’t know.
Bunny: she’s tall, slightly palish blue skin.
Russ: oh, Katrina’s shown up.
Bunny: oh poor girl.
Russ: Katrina? No, nothing poor about her. Oh, you mean
the latest injuries.
Russ: oh yes.
Bunny: she’s got a mask or half a mask on.
Russ: yeah, it’s when she got banged up pretty badly in
Bunny: uh-huh. I can help soothe her.
Russ: all righty, sounds like a good plan my dear.
Bunny: hmm, she says to say hello to you.
Russ: oh, tell her das ve danya for me.
Russ: das ve danya.
Bunny: she says das ve danya and something I can’t even
get my mouth around.
Bunny: sounds like das ve danya, nyet…..no, not even going
to attempt it.
Russ: no problem love.
Bunny: what is she talking?
Bunny: what’s that?
Russ: it’s one of our cultural languages down here, the
eastern part of Europe.
Bunny: I’ll have to look on a place book.
Bunny: okay, I’ll be back.
Russ: all right love.
(Tia makes the last transition of the night.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Tia: I’ll put on the next person.
Russ: all right dear.
Tia: those two are getting acquainted.
(Leah completes the night for us.)
Leah: how’s it going?
Russ: good darling.
Russ: who is this, Alana?
Leah: do I sound like Alana?
Leah: I met her the other day, she’s with child.
Russ: uh-huh, yes.
Leah: she’s your bond mate but it’s not yours is it?
Russ: right, it’s Mark’s.
Russ: it backfired.
Leah: getting pregnant is getting backfired? What does
Russ: ask Karra about that one.
Leah: well Karra’s talking with Huna (Bunny) and the one
that speaks funny.
Russ: ahh Katrina.
Leah: so how you doing?
Russ: I’m doing good dear, is this Leah?
Leah: of course.
Russ: of course, silly me, I should’ve recognized you.
Leah: Tia says to say MCP.
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: I don’t know what that means.
Russ: male chauvinist pig.
Leah: what does that mean?
Russ: it means generally men in particular on a third
dimensional level who are more selfish and self-conscious
Leah: but you’re not.
Russ: I know.
Leah: then why would she say that?
Russ: it’s a tease, she likes to tease.
Russ: we go back and forth like this all the time.
Leah: like Huna likes to tease?
Russ: sort of, not quite in a sexual way.
Leah: oh, she’s blushing.
Russ: more like brother, sister kind of way.
Leah: oh yes, like me and my brother does.
Russ: that’s right yes, just like that.
Russ: we tease each other.
Leah: oh okay, I know what you mean.
Russ: how you doing Leah?
Leah: I’m doing fine.
Russ: good, glad to have your sister there?
Russ: all right, you guys are getting acquainted I hear?
Russ: now you’re blushing.
Russ: well good to hear, good to hear.
Russ: it’s nice to see you guys getting to know each other
Russ: how long has it been since you guys seen each other,
couldn’t have been that long?
Leah: about six months to a year.
Russ: yeah, wasn't that long then.
Leah: hello, we’ve got a little visitor just come into the
Russ: oh, that would be probably Miranda?
Russ: oh I mean one of the Cubs?
Russ: oh no?
Leah: somebody that makes me feel warm and special.
Russ: oh, Leonedies showed up.
Russ: oh good.
Leah: I think he’s meant to be getting ready for bed
Russ: yeah he's got a little bit...oh he's yeah, up a
little bit late, about 15 minutes so it's not that bad.
Leah: oh, well is wearing his jammies.
Russ: sounds reasonable. Your sister and I are going to
try an experiment here.
Leah: yes, so I hear.
Russ: this should be interesting.
Leah: yeah I think it might….ow.
Leah: I just had my sister sit in my foot accidentally.
Leah: oh well he’s gone.
Russ: oh Leonedies is gone?
Leah: uh-huh, he was scooped up and taken away.
Russ: I’m sure he was.
Russ: very quickly too.
Leah: okay, let’s be serious for a while.
Russ: all right dear.
Leah: got any questions for me?
Russ: for the most part, not really. We’ve been working a
lot lately on differences between third dimension and
Russ: so I’m not sure how much you can contribute to it
but maybe you can, maybe you can’t.
Russ: your observations?
Leah: well I’ve only had a limited experience speaking on
a scientific level. From what I’ve experienced, it’s like
looking at a brick and not seeing a house.
Russ: back on third dimension?
Leah: no, overall.
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: I cannot compare because I’ve experienced only you
and stud muffin. (Mark)
Russ: and you're….
Leah: that’s what Kiri calls him.
Russ: oh does she?
Russ: and you haven’t had your memories get to you yet
Russ: you can't really discern between your third
dimensional lives in your sixth dimensional lives.
Russ: understandable but now you can give me some hints on
living in the sixth dimension.
Russ: so that’s good, that’s helpful.
Leah: well it comes naturally.
Russ: well I’m sure it does.
Leah: I don’t have to think what’s right or wrong.
Russ: okay let’s start with this then.
Leah: Tia’s coaching me by the way.
Russ: okay, let’s start with this. Last night I was
working with Karra and she couldn’t really answer it as
well as I think you could......
Russ: because you’re closer to the source but growing up
in sixth dimension, in other words as a child…..
Russ: okay in crèches and stuff.
Russ: all right, what things are you taught empathically
to be aware of?
Leah: feelings, emotions.
Russ: now everyone is, right?
Russ: from the very get-go?
Russ: feelings and emotions towards others or yourself?
Leah: uh-huh. Feelings of when somebody in a depressed
state of consciousness….
Leah: not in dormancy.
Leah: but in a, “I want to be alone, leave me alone.” You
know what kind of mood that is where as if it is somebody
that wants to be generally alone to think or somebody that
is and I think you would say squashed, de-squashed.
Leah: yes I think.
Russ: yeah, depressed.
Leah: yeah. I know when somebody is in that depressed
state of consciousness as opposed to "I want to be left
alone to think". And I know that it would be better for
that person to be brought out of that state whereas
somebody that wants to be alone to do studying or whatever
or just want to be alone, then I know that they just want
to be alone and I’m respectful of that.
Russ: right, now how do you learn something like that? Do
they give you somebody who is in that mood or they get
themselves in that mood and you have to read it?
Leah: no, no, it’s just interaction. It’s something that
my sister never had.
Russ: oh really?
Leah: yeah, pure interaction.
Leah: you see when I was at the age of learning…
Leah: we were a lot of the time in Council or my father
was in Council.
Leah: so that I would be in town a lot of the time so I
could go to the classes whereas when my mother became
pregnant with Huna…
Leah: she went back home to have her.
Leah: she wanted her youngest daughter, my younger sister
to be at home.
Leah: and my youngest brother kept her at home when she
was pregnant with him.
Leah: it was a little complicated for her, the pregnancy
Leah: so she stayed at home. Now they’ve come
back….mother's come back to the city to rejoin our
Leah: so therefore they are now getting the interaction
that they missed by being up on the coast way up in the
secluded areas where our home is.
Russ: I see.
Russ: okay so that affects your training.
Leah: yeah, it’s interaction. You know, being put in a
crèche because mother being my father's assistant.
Leah: I had to be put into a crèche.
Russ: okay, so you learned more about how to respond to
people’s feelings but then you see Huna…
Russ: and you realize she’s picked that up almost
Leah: no, no she can read people’s sexual states.
Leah: and she’s learned how to probe….
Russ: oh I see, so that’s why she probed me….
Leah: because she wanted to see your state.
Russ: right, without actually knowing whether or not I
wanted to be probed.
Russ: because she hadn’t had that interaction. I see, yeah
that clears it up in a big way.
Leah: uh-huh, and by probing, she can tell somebody’s
emotional status and so therefore she sees that it’s a
status…..she can’t read the vibes given off very well.
Russ: in other words, she can get the leaking like Monk
Russ: and he’s not probing because he knows that’s not
Russ: and he’s obeying those statutes but, he’s picking up
on all this extra leaking so another words you’d pick up
on leaking instead of probing.
Leah: that’s correct.
Russ: I see.
Leah: whereas Huna picks up on the probing.
Russ: just by probing right. Oh, makes a difference.
Leah: yeah, you see she didn’t have that interaction.
That’s why I think and feel that she looks for the sexual
joining and pleasure to be able to get that.
Russ: uh-huh. Well that’s one way to learn it.
Leah: oh yeah, a very good way I mean until I
started......until I started experimenting with
lovemaking, it was something I didn’t miss but it
heightened the experiences.
Leah: the joining. When I’m made love with Tia for the
first time, it was something that was…..you’ve never had
fireworks have you?
Russ: oh yeah.
Leah: hmm, I thought men didn’t get fireworks?
Russ: when I was married, when I first met my first wife.
Leah: oh yes.
Russ: those were fireworks.
Russ: actually my first sexual experience was mass
Leah: but I’d never experience that…..
Leah: until Tia and myself made love for the first
Leah: and I lost my virginity…
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