(Kiri gets the session started as
the night's ring mistress)
Kiri: okay, let's get down to business.
Kiri: do you have any questions for me?
Russ: yes, as a matter fact.
Russ: okay. All right, I was trying coercion this
evening without eye contact but wasn't having any
success whatsoever. Now is there any other
techniques doing it without eye contact we can talk
Kiri: there is thought forms.
Russ: oh, so it's the extra energy that.....
Kiri: yeah, the extra energy that gives it its
Russ: okay. Now if their minds are turned to
something else and their minds are absorbed with
what they're doing, wouldn't it be a little tough
even with eye contact to get through?
Kiri: well it depends on your wattage as it were. If
you have a strong coercive capability then you
shouldn't see much of a problem.
Russ: now theoretically then, working with your ants
up there will help me working with my ants down
Kiri: that's right. I'll kill it, where is it?
Russ: I put it there.
(The tape shuts off and then turns on again)
Kiri: okay, let us continue. Uh-huh?
Russ: all right. Okay, so we're on ants.
Kiri: oh yes, ants.
Russ: okay, so they're very sensitive to charges
that they come in contact with.
Kiri: that's right, okay?
Russ: so all you do is direct your thoughts to their
Russ: it's not like you actually need to be having
Kiri: no, it would be a lot easier. We want to make
it as easy as possible, okay?
Russ: okay. Thank you darling, that's all I've got
Kiri: as I'm ring mistress, I will be taking care of
things. Okay, I will hand over to the next person.
Kiri: that's better, okay. I'll be back but, for the
moment, I'm out of here.
(Omal goes into professor mode)
Omal: greetings Russ, how are we functioning?
Russ: wonderful, thanks.
Omal: okay. Now then, I'm going to sound boring,
dull, and tedious for a little while and I shall
return back to the light entertainment.
Omal: okay, now, Wizard rig is currently on ice. We
have other projects to work on.
Omal: okay now, primary topic of tonight's
discussion, which is?
Russ: this would be on what we discussed last week.
Omal: yes, which is?
Russ: oh, we're not going to go on the history
Omal: not tonight.
Russ: okay, so this is the other part we were
Omal: yes. If you remember, we said there were a few
Omal: it's a clue. It is music, it is a type of what
you are planning to go to.
Russ: Grateful Dead concert?
Omal: what's the last part?
Mark: what would Kiri say at this point? The
attention span of a gnat? Or an ant?
Russ: gnat, you got it right the first time.
Omal: sorry, we are teasing you. Okay, come on, you
got the last part. What is that game that you play
where you guess the word? Charades?
Russ: yeah, charades, right.
Russ: a meta-concert.
Omal: that's right. Okay, meta-concerts. Now, a
simplified form that I have been working on works
with two people with the framework for necessary
expansion. Now there are four parts to the
meta-concert program which means that the two
individuals using the meta-concert program must take
on two functions each. The functions are the
executive, primary, conductor and secondary. Let's
start off with the executive. The executive is the
person that has the control of the meta-concert. If
it is a shielding meta-concert or a psychokinesis
meta-concert or a manifestation meta-concert, it
doesn't matter which but, the person that has the
executive mode has total control over the
meta-concert. It is also recommended that the person
has the executive mode also takes the primary mode.
Russ: so that's the one that's actually doing the
key part there.
Russ: okay, what's the primary mode?
Omal: the primary mode is collecting the energy and
feeding it.........no, it wouldn't work that way.
Okay, the primary mode would have to go with the
secondary mode. The conductor......okay, let's look
primary mode. Hold on, I'm trying to go from memory
when I was making this available. Okay, the primary
mode is for the supplying of energy to the
conductor. I'll explain the conductor in a minute.
He collects the energy and funnels it to the
conductor. The conductor is not a conductor as in an
orchestra but more in the lines of an electrical
conductor. If there is a problem with the executive,
the conductor will disconnect the link so that there
is no flash damage. In other words, the conductor
will cash in and the executive will cash in but the
rest will be protected. It also works the other way.
When if there is too much energy, the person with
the conductor mode will save everybody else by
cashing in but that is in a large meta-concert.
Omal: okay, the secondary level is pure energy.
Focusing on passing the energy to the primary, it is
that simple. So we suggest, when you are having the
executive is also the conductor, and the primary
person is also the secondary person, the executive
person does not have to be that talented capability
wise. All he should know is how to focus and channel
the energy in whatever way he wants to. The
conductor is a little bit more specialized. Being
able to to monitor the fluctuation in energy and to
keep a nice, even flow. The primary will collect the
energy from the secondary though. That is why the
secondary and the primary should work together and
pass it on through the conductor. The secondary just
collects the energy. Now, when you expand, you farm
out each part but the most important part, if you
have three people, is the conductor because he will
save either the executive or the primary. That is
their function is to regulate energy flowing
backwards and forwards between the various parts but
you can do away with the conductor. But it is not
recommended as it is his function to protect the
other parts of the concert. When you have four
people, you would farm out the secondary and the
primary. Preferably the primary going to somebody
that has plenty of energy but no particular talent
as it were. When you expand to five, you need a
second person for the secondary. Six, again, another
person for the secondary. When you reach seven, you
would put one person into the primary so you would
have two, three. Two primary, three secondary and so
on. You would always keep one more person in the
secondary than in the primary. Now, meta-concerts
varies with the different capabilities. If you were
using manifestation, then it is handy to have
somebody in the executive mode that knows about
manifestation. And again the same in the shielding
mode. In the psychokinesis mode, it is not so much
somebody that has a little bit of knowledge although
that is useful, it is somebody that can handle the
kind of powers that is generated when you're using
psychokinesis. It can also be used in a farsighting
method but that is a totally different structure and
I haven't gotten down to working on the finer points
yet. Do you have questions?
Omal: okay, proceed.
Russ: what's the use then could be if we added
crystals at some time?
Omal: as an energy source, a focusing point.
Russ: so when you're working with two, would it be
wise to use an energy crystal.......
Russ: good, to augment your supply?
Omal: yes, that will be used by somebody, the person
working within the primary and secondary mode.
Russ: okay. And so can you then give me a rundown
then of steps as from start to finish?
Omal: yes. Okay now, the way that you would set up a
meta-concert, and this is a teaching program for the
beginning, for the beginner. Right, first of all,
you vocalize each step of the meta-concert. For
example, let me see, "I will take the executive
mode". You would have somebody in.......I would
also.......do you wish me to do it with two people
Russ: let's start with two people and pretend it's
two people up there I can listen to.
Omal: okay. In fact, hold on one second.
(Russ starts laughing as Kiri has unique body
Kiri: okay, right, back to Omal.
Omal: question, why did I pick Kiri?
Russ: because she has more energy than anybody else
in the room right now.
Omal: yes, apart in one of our guests.
Russ: ahh, okay.
Omal: which may not quite match up, it is pretty
Russ: all right.
Omal: okay, now then, this is going to sound a
little confusing as she is kind of lying on me with
her head just below my chin.
Omal: okay, now, "I take the executive and
Kiri: "I take the primary and secondary".
Omal: okay, here we go. Right, "okay, conductor to
primary, collect energy".
Kiri: "collecting energy, got tons of it".
Omal: "okay, now start to channel the energy
through. Give me a countdown to when you're ready".
Kiri: "three, two, one, energy sending".
Omal: "okay, conductor to executive, energy being
supplied to you, five, four, three, two, one,
executive receiving energy. Received. Conductor to
Kiri: "secondary phasing in to primary, five, four,
three, one. Secondary to primary, energy being
supplied. Primary to secondary, energy being
supplied. Primary to conductor, energy coming from
secondary and primary. Ten, nine, eight, seven, six,
five, four, three, two, one".
Omal: "conductor receiving energy, passing to
executive. Executive ready. Five, four, three, two,
one, executive manifesting......heat". Then you go
on with the rest the program.
Russ: very good.
Russ: very impressive, very impressive.
Kiri: thank you.
Omal: now, the reason why.......thank you
Kiri.......the reason why she counted to ten from
the secondary is.........or was it primary?
Russ: secondary to primary.
Omal: yeah, secondary to primary, is to give the
primary time to marshal the energy before it can be
passed on to the conductor.
Russ: okay, why is there the energy being sent first
from the primary to the conductor before you start
sending from the secondary to the primary?
Omal: because you phase it in gradually. You up the
amperage so that the conductor doesn't get a sudden
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: you see, it is a safety mechanism. The primary
cuts in, passes the energy to the conductor and he
passes it through to the executive. Now the
executive can call for more energy, that is why the
secondary will phase in. Sometimes it is automatic
to phase it in. You cannot phase in the secondary,
primary all at one time because the energy being
passed through the conductor would damage the
Russ: is there points where you don't need to phase
the secondary in?
Omal: if it is on low level, the secondary becomes
Russ: because the primary is supplying enough
Omal: yes. However, there is a catch. In certain
situations, developments in your capability will
mean that a secondary and primary will be combined
into just the straightforward primary, the energy
will be supplied full power from the primary and
secondary straightaway. This can also be used in
Russ: okay. Now, with the secondary phasing in power
to the primary and they're both the same person, how
does that work with the person doing primary and
secondary. In other words, primary starts sending in
Omal: that is energy that you call in from around
you. For example, what Kiri would do as the primary
is she would use her natural energy and then she
would pull in secondary energy from all around.
Russ: ohh, I get it, I get it. So that her personal
energy would be enough to start the flow going to
the conductor who sends it to the executive.
Russ: then the secondary energy picks up everything
else, that's why the crystals come in.
Omal: that's right.
Russ: because the secondary then pulls in energies
from the crystals.......
Omal: yes. When we ran it up here in vocalizing it,
Kiri just counted through as the secondary. She
didn't supply any backup energy.
Russ: right, she's just a mockup.
Omal: yes, but there was actual energy supplied from
Russ: I get it.
Omal: how does it feel down there?
Russ: nice and toasty.
Omal: good example, huh?
Russ: okay, I see then. Now the executive then has
the most important part.
Russ: is the visualization of what is to be done.
Omal: there is a slight problem here. When you do
the executive, you visualize briefly, select the
target and then it becomes the matching colors.
Russ: matching colors?
Omal: yes, this is when you are using a vast
quantity of energy which you won't reach just yet.
when we come to that point we will cover it.
Russ: I don't understand the colors.
Omal: it depends what on what function you're using.
For example, if you're using a manifestation. For
example fire and you wanted to create fire
straightaway at a very tight beam, you wouldn't
visualize fire because you would get a flash back
which would damage the executive and probably harm
the conductor which would save everybody else in the
orchestra as it were.
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: so what you do is you would visualize the
colors of the fire, not the fire itself. You would
visualize a center of bright red and fading all the
way to white on the outside. No, it's the opposite
way around. Bright white in the center fading to
pale red on the outside.
Russ: and then when you finally have the energy
Russ: you send it to those colors?
Omal: yes. Well you send it to the brightest part,
Russ: which has already been visualized....
Russ: so you know where to go.
Omal: it is just a brief, very brief visualization.
Russ: so it's almost a thought form?
Russ: but it's not quite because it doesn't come
into reality until you supply the energy.
Russ: so it's just a semi-thought form.
Omal: you could call it a full form I suppose.
Russ: okay. Now, is there an elemental that deals
with this or do elementals and thought forms.....
Omal: no, this is just your raw power supply
generated from the mind and any other power sources
you can use.
Russ: I see, okay. Now what we're talking about here
is quite a jump up as far as organized energy.
Omal: yes, this is......once you have mastered it,
this is where you would head to for something like
the meta-concert I just described.
Russ: right. Okay now, say I'm working as a primary
Russ: okay, I'm pulling in energy. Now then, the
energy I'm pulling in is the same kind that I'll be
using down here when I'm using say like coercion or
Omal: yes. It is your raw energy, the energy that
keeps all functions functioning.
Russ: ahh. Now at one point, I'm going to start to
Russ: now that's when the secondary kicks in,
there's no drainage because you're pulling in energy
from around you.
Omal: correct. However, there is only so much energy
that you on the primary can supply.
Russ: okay right. So that's why you're just
Omal: yes, but once your primary burns out, then
your secondary becomes the primary and you act like
a conduit or you could drop out totally leaving the
secondary just to supply energy passing it directly
through to the conductor.
Russ: okay, now how long once the executive got the
energy from the conductor.....
Omal: how long can he hold it?
Russ: how long can he hold it and how long would he
need to hold it?
Omal: it is best to use it straightaway.
Russ: okay. I mean, once he starts using it, he just
keeps using it until he gets results then?
Omal: yes, but on a large meta-concert, it would be
Russ: okay, now with the......let's say you're doing
Russ: okay? And the executive visualizes the person
to be hailed.
Russ: okay? Sends out the energy. Primary sends up
to the conductor who sends it to the executive......
Russ: at that point, the secondary kicks it to the
primary who sends it to the conductor who sends it
to the executive and the executive then holds the
vision, the visualization of the person.
Russ: and does he then let's say form a energy lead
to that person?
Omal: correct. That is where it would work on the
Russ: okay, so then that person then would certainly
Omal: "what the heck is going on". Okay.
Russ: perfect. Great, now for practice on this.....
Russ: what's the best way to start on this?
Omal: what do you wish to work on?
Russ: let's start with the far hailing.
Omal: and who would you wish to far hail?
Russ: that girl.
Omal: okay, that would be...
Omal: yes, Kiri was whispering in my ear.
(Russ starts chuckling at that)
Omal: you embarrassed her slightly.
Russ: oh good. She embarrasses me every night
sometimes when we do these.
Russ: now then, so we're practicing on that. I'll be
practicing in the meantime let's say working the
primary and secondary. So that means I should start
Omal: collecting energy.
Russ: collecting and sending.
Russ: okay. So for now, I'll start practicing it to
like a crystal or something?
Russ: treating it sort of like a conductor.
Omal: correct. Presumably you wish to be the primary
Russ: so far, Mark has better visualization down.
Omal: okay, but it may be necessary for you to learn
the executive and conductor as well.
Russ: all right. Okay, so how would I practice that?
Omal: you could practice both taking turns.
Russ: I see.
Omal: be best to discuss it with Mark when he
Russ: all right. Yeah, anything further than that,
we'll work on in future sessions....
Russ: it's good for the basics.
Omal: I will hand back to Kiri.
Omal: okay? And I will possibly come back in a few
Russ: thank you.
(Kiri drops back in to pass on to a very special
Kiri: oh well. Well, I'm just going to be in
briefly. Got to get everything ready for the guest
channeler and, you're in for a surprise.
Russ: it's not Taal.
Kiri: no. Okay, we'll begin. I'm going to hand over
to the surprise person.
channels for the first time in a century and a half)
Tanaka: it is a long time since I have channeled, a
Russ: this isn't Ashtar?
Tanaka: no. You were expecting Ashtar?
Russ: well, sometime he'll surprise us rarely.
Tanaka: I am visiting my daughters.
Russ: NO WAY!!!!!
Russ: greetings and very special greetings.
Russ: I'm glad you could join us.
Tanaka: you will not I trust fall to sleep on me?
(Russ laughs in surprise from the memory of my last
astral trip to visit him)
Russ: not this time, no. You've got me for the whole
Russ: this is indeed a pleasure, great.
Tanaka: I am honored to be here.
Russ: I'm honored to have you with us.
Tanaka: I'm only staying two days.
Russ: oh, good. Well I come up and see you.
Tanaka: that's correct.
Russ: I see.
Tanaka: I had to check with my wayward, mischievous
daughter who tries so hard to be proper.
(Russ has been laughing through this)
Tanaka: as you know, I am recently ascended.
Tanaka: hold on please.
Tanaka: yes, I can tell you this. In past lives, I
have been father to you and the channeler, Mark,
before. I was father to Maxxus and Naxxus and also I
once was the father of the channeler and tried to
Russ: oh, to save you when you got a sword cut.
Tanaka: yes, so you could say my other name is
Russ: yes, it would be.
Russ: this is a pleasure, thank you. But thank you
for those past lives.
Tanaka: as I am ascended, maybe again sometime.
Russ: I look forward to it also but for now, is a
pleasure to have you back up.
Tanaka: yes. I am visiting with my granddaughter to
see my grandson.
Russ: all right.
Tanaka: both my grandsons. Nazreal and little
Alexander and my granddaughter, Klarra....
Tanaka: and one day my grandsons.
Russ: yes, but so far things are going well and it's
a little too bad I haven't been able to stay up
there longer when I have been up there.
Tanaka: well I will return back to Karra's where I
shall put on some tea.
Tanaka: my mischievous, wayward daughter who is
shaking her head but she plays the proper lady so
much. I am aware she is surprised that I know her
true self. I know she likes women or the men.
Russ: oh, you met her girlfriend?
Tanaka: but she was not introduced as girlfriend.
Tanaka: I will now go to see my grandson who I
believe is with the channeler.
Russ: oh, excellent.
Tanaka: so, for myself, it is an honor and a
pleasure to talk to you.
Russ: it's an honor and a pleasure also I will see
Tanaka: yes. I will take my granddaughter Tia
Studley Alana, that is her full name...
Tanaka: with me.
Tanaka: she wants to spend time with her
grandfather. My great-granddaughter. Farewell
Russ: farewell, see you soon.
Tanaka: we will meet above your head.
Russ: it's a deal.
(Kiri returns to get us to the next side)
Kiri: for years I tried to be Miss perfect and he
knew, he knew......
(Russ finds that pretty funny)
Russ: I didn't say a word.
Kiri: were you broadcasting?
Russ: no, I didn't say a word.
Kiri: oh well.
Russ: was this a surprise for everybody there?
Kiri: no, we knew.
Russ: oh, before he got here that he was coming?
Kiri: no, I asked him to come.
Russ: oh. Excellent, excellent.
Kiri: he did a good job on translating, what was the
name? I can't...
Russ: Tia Studley....
Kiri: Tia Studley Alana?
Kiri: that's her, I can't figure out how he
translated it from Sirian.
Russ: he's good.
Kiri: hmm. I didn't know that little bit of
Russ: I didn't know about it either.
Kiri: so you could say it's incest.
Russ: (laughing) yeah you could.
Kiri: well brother.
Russ: (still laughing) well sister.
Kiri: okay, let us continue.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: have you turned the tape over?
Russ: no, it's still going. It's still going no,
it's almost out though.
Kiri: I was about to say, time seems to be going
faster than the tape. Has it run out?
Russ: it's 45 minutes.
Kiri: hmm. Oh well, I better do my ring mistress
Kiri: that only leaves one person left to channel.
Russ: oh good. Only Korton?
Kiri: only Korton.
Kiri: Omal said he might be back but he's got other
(We exchange raspberries before the tape runs out)
(Korton gets side two
Korton: greetings and felicitations Russ.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: and how are we functioning?
Russ: pretty good tonight. Nice surprise that was.
Korton: yes it was, we thought you might enjoy it.
We were a little bit unsure whether or not to let
him channel. It's been approximately a hundred and
fifty years, your years since he channeled last?
Russ: he was awesome at it.
Korton: well, it's the old reflexes.
Russ: no kidding, that worked out well.
Korton: okay, let us proceed. I understand my
colleague is going to do a basic meta-concert
program with capabilities to enlarge it.
Russ: yes indeed.
Korton: okay, let us proceed.
Russ: okay. Now, what point do you want to proceed
on tonight, is it open discussion?
Korton: yes it is.
Korton: we've covered all the important issues for
the time being.
Russ: all right, I was going to ask Omal a while
ago about a few things about history but you might
have some answers for me.
Russ: I'll try couple of them.
Korton: okay, I will try. Unfortunately I do not
have my assistant with me as she is otherwise
Russ: these are real easy ones.
Russ: okay. This goes back to Maxxus and where
after the pyramid was built, we saw a period of
time pass, thousands of years before we saw
civilization come into that area again. Now, at
that point, we see the Sumerians coming in and
they're building these ziggurats.
Was this sort of a trying to copy the pyramid?
Korton: basically yes. It was more of seeing this
object and then trying to fathom out its function.
Becoming aware of things by trying to reason its
Russ: now they couldn't get into it.
Russ: so all they could see was the fact that
they've got a big mystery on their hands.
Russ: obviously they didn't accomplish what they
were setting out to do.
Russ: but at the same time, were they working with
crystals at all?
Korton: I don't think so. That sounds unusual for
me, doesn't it? But I don't think so. I'm not
sure, I would have to look into this. As I said,
unfortunately I don't have my assistant.
Russ: right. It's just that seeing these Ziggurats,
I mean historians nowadays see it as these Sumerian
ziggurats being built before the great pyramid. I
guess they see it as the great pyramid being a
Korton: a copy.
Russ: of these things.
Russ: but when you look at the mathematics of it,
it doesn't make sense.
Russ: because it's actually something way before
anybody's time. It's probably before our time now.
We couldn't reproduce something of that scale and
that precision right now.
Korton: no. There was an attempt made recently to
create something similar just to see how it was
done. It caused considerable problems for the
engineers that were working on it but the methods
that they tried did not work.
Russ: what? You mean they had computers, they had
high technology and ground moving equipment and
Korton: it did not work properly.
Russ: it was still aligned right and everything?
Korton: it was aligned correctly but it just
didn't work. It was built within view of the great
Korton: I believe a group of Japanese?
Russ: Japanese did it?
Korton: yes. And it was aligned correctly but the
methods that they used did not work properly. Even
with your current technology, it did not function
Russ: doesn't that say something then?
Korton: yes it does.
Russ: right, so at that point, you're seeing that
there's more things about this than even....
Russ: we have even discovered to date.
Russ: okay. Now, I tried to figure out how getting
some stuff from the pyramid but as yet I didn't
spend enough time getting to it.
Russ: can you tell me one thing is whether or not
it's an emptying of all thought or is it directed
Korton: it depends on how you access it.
Russ: there's a couple ways to do that in other
Korton: yes, there is selective access, which is a
clue in itself there and then there is just access
Russ: oh I see, it depends on whether you wanted
to get specific about it.
Korton: after all, I am a communicator.
Russ: I have trouble with that. And I am too, I
should be like better at that.
Korton: correct. That goes back to a discussion a
couple weeks ago.....
Korton: about the necessary function of a
communicator is to speak crisply and clearly. That
is why we correct you. We do not correct you
because mispronunciation irritates us, it is
because as a communicator, it is necessary to
communicate correctly for myself and yourself.
Russ: well I appreciate your corrections, I take
them to heart.
Korton: it is necessary sometimes to use humor and
when a moment becomes necessary then humor is
Russ: I noticed Omal had troubles keeping a
straight face in the meta-concert practice.
Korton: I'm afraid I missed that.
Russ: it was pretty good. Okay, so we're looking
then back to the pyramids again......
Russ: that we have something that has not been
re-created and, as far as we know, has been
created only a few times in the history of the
Russ: okay. Now then, once you have access to the
pyramids and you have gained access to at least
this one here, can you selectively select
different pyramids that are in working order?
Korton: yes, but what you have to do is you have
to unaccess yourself from one computer. Almost get
up, leave the pyramid, and wait a period of time
not less than ten minutes. Return back to the
pyramid, access the pyramid you're working from
and then in turn access another pyramid. Of course
you have to figure out the keycode to access both
Korton: yes, there is a keycode that will access
your pyramid and then when you connect as it were
Korton: to another pyramid, you have to access
that one's code, a password is what I was looking
for. A password to enter the system of the other
Russ: and this is a password that has been lost
for some 20,000 years?
Korton: hmm, possibly but some of them are quite
Russ: now say for example this pyramid here would
be built with a password?
Russ: it does? We built it.
Korton: then you know the password.
Russ: not a clue in the world.
Korton: think of something. Clear your mind. Clear
your mind, totally. Now, what is the first word
that comes to your mind?
Korton: again, clear your mind again. What is the
first word that comes into your mind?
Korton: okay, try again. And this is how you would
access the master computer. It is something quite
simple but you're following the wrong lines.
Russ: I see what you mean, it's the first word
that comes in might be wrong for a number of times
to find the right ones then.
Korton: yes, but you're also pursuing......it is
something that would be easy to remember by you
and the channeler. It might be something
like.....I don't know what it is.....I'm being
careful whether or not I access it. It could be
something as simple as, hey. Or it could be.......
Korton: no, pyragram? Ohhh that's close, that's
Russ: we'll just hold off on that.
Korton: okay. Yes, but you see what I'm saying.
Russ: right, I see exactly what you're saying.
Korton: oh, that is very close. It is already
humming slightly but you get the idea.
Korton: and you now have a point to work from. It
is either the first part or the latter part.
Russ: right. Okay, so from there, you can work on
accessing this once you get that access......
Russ: you can start having the groundwork of
figuring out something on a bigger scale such as
the great pyramid.
Russ: now that would entail more, more more.
Korton: correct. We suggest that when you do
access the great pyramid is that you have a
reverse meta-concert. You would send in the
executive and he would collect the information and
be passed back through the conductor back down
Russ: okay, now, what happens when you start to
Russ: channel the energy somewhere else?
Korton: yes, basically.
Russ: maybe into a crystal or something?
Korton: crystal possibly or you could just shut it
down. That is the function I believe of the
conductor, is that correct?
Russ: right. I mean, what if you're like over
massing on this one here?
Korton: you would have a number of crystals.
Russ: various sizes?
Korton: yes, such as this one.
Russ: I see. Go ahead and send it into this one.
Korton: yes and this one. But when you access a
computer, you don't have this one around because
it will crash the program in this one.
Korton: it is like putting a disk next to a
Russ: right, clears it out, I see.
Korton: you would have to start all over again
with this has its capacity limits.
Russ: ahh. Now working with the great pyramid
let's say, is that almost like a farsighting type
Russ: now since Maxxus built it, Mark would be the
best bet for being the executive conductor.
Korton: yes probably. You may want a few other
people around as receivers for the energy
Russ: oh really? It's not a two-person deal.
Korton: no, most certainly not. Somebody that can
handle or somebodies that can handle a lot of
Russ: okay. If you could, if this regression goes
through as planned tomorrow....
Russ: if you could monitor the girl coming in....
Korton: see what energy she has.
Russ: right. And if she would be a person that
might be able to deal with energies like these?
Korton: certainly, certainly. Now, do you have
Russ: that's it.
Russ: I've got enough to work on for years.
Korton: just imagine when you will have many
lifetimes of energy.
Russ: okay, whew. Well.....
Korton: many lifetimes of information. I'm sorry,
I must correct myself.
Russ: that's all right but it will
definitely be something to work for.
Russ: thank you Korton.
Korton: you're welcome. Have an enjoyable evening,
it is a pleasure as always to talk to you.
Russ: and me as well.
(Kiri returns to
transition between speakers)
Russ: hi darling. What are you laughing about?
Kiri: I can't help it.
Russ: I do enjoy you coming in though.
Kiri: you do? Yo.
Russ: this would not be a happening session
without you here at least once.
Kiri: well, maybe one day you have to do without
me briefly, again.
Russ: right, we'll deal with that when the time
Kiri: yeah. But I'm in no hurry. I'm happy with
a.......okay. Right, okay, I better go.
Russ: right. I'll be up to see Karra's dad,
Kiri: my dad too, my father.
Russ: that makes him my stepfather sort of?
Kiri: no, father-in-law?
Russ: father-in-law, right.
Kiri: he's no outlaw.
(Russ breaks out in laughter)
Russ: alright darling.
Kiri: I think he would just prefer it if you call
Russ: I do too.
Kiri: not Mr. Tanaka.
Russ: or Tanaka san, not bow to him.
Kiri: why did you bow to him?
Russ: well, it's kind of instinctive actually. I
mean when I got up there to see him on Sirius I
don't bow, you know it's just, "hi, how you
Kiri: it's probably why he said it wasn't
necessary to bow.
Russ: well yeah. Well I forgot, you had monitors
on, you could see everything down here.
Kiri: yeah uh-huh. Oh, dear, dear, dear, dear. I'm
getting control of more resources on the body.
Russ: pretty soon it won't such a waste of time
with Bethany coming over.
Kiri: you going to try to hail her?
Russ: far hailing, yeah. Good practice.
Kiri: okay, right. I've got things on my mind,
I've got to go and talk to my father, talk
Russ: have fun Miss primary secondary.
Kiri: okay. I'll see you later.
Russ: okay love.
Kiri: I'm out.
(Tia now joins the channeling
Tia: live, centerstage, Tia and the amazing Cubs.
Russ: did they get their presents?
Tia: they love their presents. Now first of all
down to business, I have a little message here.
Tia: it is, "when you have the time and energy,
come out and see me. I'm at home and I will be
free on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
Unfortunately, I have a function Wednesday evening
of your time so I will not be available. Hugs,
kisses, Karra. I've got a message for Deanna too,
and that is thank you for your help and
assistance. It's helping with his healing. Is she
Russ: she's asleep.
Tia: oh, I was going to go down and thank her in
person. I think I might do that. Okay, I'm going
to go down to see her in person.
Russ: I'll be here.
Tia: uh-huh, back live.
Russ: so what else is going on here?
Tia: oh nothing much, I've got some new arrivals
coming in on your Friday.
Russ: oh that's right.
Russ: and have you talked to them yet?
Russ: looking forward to it?
Tia: uh-huh. I talked to them on a communicator,
it's a delayed recording unfortunately. I
introduced myself, I introduced my charming Cubs
and we had to do four tapes before we got a good
Russ: Tia and her Cubs, take three.
Tia: it would've been more if I hadn't turned
around and threatened Minerva within an inch of
her tail. That's about it apart from we have in
the new recreational park two feet of snow.
Tia: and more as we talk. Astral travel. Next
Tuesday, we will do a recording.
Russ: oh yes, on astral travel?
Tia: that's right, a how-to for beginners.
Russ: so will get a separate tape for that.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh. Just a short thirty minute one.
Tia: okay? Uh-huh.
Russ: all right dear sounds good.
Tia: and I do have next week's schedule of
speakers as well.
Russ: we'll just leave it as a nice surprise.
Russ: okay darling, we have a lot of tape to work
with. Plenty of time.
Tia: oh, plenty of time to kill. Uh-huh, where's
my stun gun? I'll stun it. "No, no, no, it's not
stunned, it's resting". Hmmm? That tickled. Okay,
see you in a while.
Russ: alright darling, see you shortly.
gets us to the end of the tape with a bit of
Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ, how you
Russ: not quite myself.
Omal: we understand partly why but there is a
little more to your current dilemma then you are
telling everybody. Lack of sleep being one.
Russ: that's probably a lot of it, yeah. I have to
work out ways to get more.
Omal: correct. And the fact that you're not whole
right at the moment unfortunately.
Russ: that shouldn't help matters.
Omal: but this is part of the learning process.
Russ: I get it for a while and I don't got it
anymore, it's like a drug sometimes.
Omal: yes, you need her......
Russ: I feel altered.
Omal: yes, you need her in your mind to help you.
Russ: well yeah.
Omal: and vice a versa.
Russ: that's part of it.
Omal: but have you felt in the past two years
since you've had her in your mind?
Russ: well I felt a lot of it in my thought
processes, abilities and working with others,
kinder and gentler kind of bearing.
Omal: and the thing to realize is that this is
part of the learning process. To learn that
without Karra, you can continue functioning and
learning heading on your path onto a higher
dimension. But it seems to me at present that
without her you slip. You don't have anybody to
say, " ahh, ahh, ahh, Russ, you're slipping. You
shouldn't say that".
Russ: that's true.
Omal: that is why I am at present taking the role
of Karra is that you have I believe five more days
Omal: and in that time, you have to realize that
to continue your advancement, you would have to,
how you would put it? Think like Karra to be able
to stop making mistakes and irking people from
time to time because you have, haven't you?
Russ: yeah, but even so, even with Karra, I suffer
sometimes from a lack of sleep and stuff.
Omal: yes, it but is a lot less.
Omal: so the thing is that when you feel that
you're about to say something, think about it and
think pleasant thoughts and then make a pleasant
answer. If you can't do something, you tell them.
But you tell them nicely along the lines of, "as
much as I would try, as much as I would like, I
cannot do it because I do not have enough time".
Or, "I'm sorry that I'm a little bit abrupt, I
have been short on sleep". I hate to sound like
I'm reprimanding you....
Russ: no, no, no.
Omal: but it is if you carry on in this way you
will slip. This is a warning. You can't afford to
slip because you would throw the plans that Karra
has for you back out of phase. So it is a matter
of learning patience.
Russ: well, maybe you can explain a little bit
about why she left, what she's doing, that kind of
thing. It would help a lot.
Omal: one of the reasons that she left was for the
fact that you have to understand that she is not a
leaning aid for your growth. She is a tool to help
you to grow. She is a great leader or has the
ability to be a great leader and what she is doing
is leading you from afar. She is saying that you
have made a framework together, now is your time
to see if you can use the framework. Maybe next
year she may be gone for a week or a month.
Remember what she said a while back, "how would
you cope without me if I was gone for a long
period of time?"
Russ: well I've worked on that and mentally I
prepared myself for it but it's a whole other
matter when it actually comes down to it.
Omal: and this is a test to see if you can do it.
If not, she will work with you closer. One of the
reasons that she had to go home was it has been a
long time since she has been home. She has
functions as being head of her clan on the female
side that she has to attend to.
Russ: well one thing I have noticed is the fact is
that up until the later part of the night I do
real well. It's not until days gone on and I'm
kind of dropping a bit and letting my defenses go.
Russ: and it's real tough maintaining more
Omal: what you should do is to step back briefly
and think now what would Karra say? Now I could
quite easily push one of your buttons and tell you
where you're going wrong but that is for you to
decide, to analyze when somebody pushes one of
your buttons and we all have them. You analyze it,
and find out why and remember, don't do that
mistake again. Without Karra, you're also very
Omal: kind of on edge. Fortunately the silence
isn't for much longer.
Russ: well I guess.......you remember what
happened when I gave up marijuana?
Omal: uh-huh, you're going to the same thing now.
Russ: yeah, you remember, I mean, what was it? A
Omal: yes, a week you were very fidgety.
Russ: fidgety, I was......
Russ: irritable, I was on everybody's nerves.
Omal: and how do you feel now?
Russ: same way. No different but I mean there's
nothing I can do about it. I mean there sometimes
where you just have to work it through.
Russ: you can't just expect miracles all of a
sudden. I do the best I can and then it's like I
give up. But that's the part of the learning
process. I'm getting better each day but it's not
going to happen.....
Russ: in a few days.
Omal: no, but the key is to ask yourself, what
would Karra do, what would Karra say and what
would she say about your current predicament?
Russ: she would say, "I understand Russ".
(Russ starts to laugh)
Omal: no she would not. She would say, and Kiri is
doing a very good impersonation, "Russ, snap out
of it, you have to stand on your own two feet".
And then she would probably give some medical
explanation on what she means.
Russ: well I'll ween myself from Karra as we going
along here in essence.
Omal: you have five days to practice.
Russ: that's not overnight though. By then the
five days, I'm going to be a fine and wonderful
Omal: and it will be a pleasure and a party to
have you back to normal.
Russ: absolutely. You just get used to something
and you just can't give it up cold turkey right
Omal: those people that know of Karra will
understand. All's you have to do is say, "Karra is
not in my head at the moment, I am at a loss. I'm
trying to adjust and she will be back in X number
of days". Okay, now we got through the explanation
on your current dilemma, let us proceed with your
Russ: okay, going into back to history part two.
Omal: yes, okay.
Russ: okay. Now, some of the things that I wanted
to get into were stuff that we studied last week.
Omal: because Korton is present.
Russ: because Korton is there. First off, a
question I have concerning the Greeks is, we have
a lot of information concerning the Greek gods and
what each of the gods did, their various functions
and what they stood for. Essentially, who came up
with the Greek gods?
Omal: the Greeks themselves did, the various city
states. And what they did was created ideas of
what gods should be like. But because they thought
that one God was in charge of one or two things,
for example Minerva, she was the goddess of what?
Russ: goddess of the hunt, also the goddess
Omal: knowledge. What was Athena the goddess of?
Omal: no, that's Aphrodite.
Russ: oh yeah.
Omal: Athena was the goddess of warfare and
wisdom. Very strange combination. Why such a
Russ: because you learn lots of from warfare.
Omal: correct. You learn human nature.
Russ: so essentially, they saw in their gods what
they wanted to see in themselves.
Russ: but because they were humans......
Russ: they had numerous failings and the gods were
above of all the failings.
Omal: and the gods were reflections of what once
was. Being able to hurl lightning bolts, what does
that sound like to you?
Russ: first off, it sounds like some
Russ: or manifestation.
Omal: yes. I was about to say, if you wish I can
demonstrate a lightning bolt.
Russ: we better hold off on the lightning bolts
Omal: oh, okay.
Russ: we would catch it on tape.
Omal: yes you would as the tape exploded.
Russ: we'll hold off. Okay, so essentially and the
Russ: now, one of things that Mark and I were
discussing after that night, were some of the
things that came about after Atlantis went down.
Russ: okay. Now we came upon the theory that
basically there was two rival groups on Sirius.
Omal: those that were about to ascend and those
that were not.
Russ: right. And the colonists to Atlantis were
those who were not ready and were not ready to
accept the worst.
Omal: of course.
Russ: and basically they were running from
anything connected with Atlantis.
Omal: no, they were running from anything
connected with Sirius.
Russ: right, I mean after Atlantis went down.
Because those that were ascending I assume came
back to earth.....
Omal: to try to help, to fulfill their destiny.
Russ: and those Atlantean's didn't want that?
Omal: hmmm, the mindset that they had was still
very third dimensional. It is a little bit like us
helping you. If you go out and help your planet,
some people laugh. Who are these strange
individuals? Is it a person putting on strange
voices? Those do not wish help, they disbelieve.
It is their choice.
Russ: so essentially we had this all backwards.
Omal: pretty much so.
Russ: but Maxxus and Naxxus were essentially those
who weren't going to ascend.
Omal: hmm, for some there was a point that was
iffy, whether they would or they would not.
Russ: well due to the results of being on earth
definitely swung it in one direction.
Omal: correct and only you can answer that. Was it
good or bad?
Russ: looking back on it in hindsight, it takes
more time to ascend but are the experiences worth
it? I'd say so. You can go to school and you can
either skip to a few grades and get higher up or
you can stay with the rest of the class and learn
at the pace that they are learning at.
Omal: but what if you find the pace you're leaning
at too slow? That it is a waste of your time to be
there. What then?
Omal: that is all you learn. But there is a much
bigger school outside. To deal with the problem
would be to go to a new area where there is more
learning available, a higher class.
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: a different plane. Whether you go there
physically or spiritually. Again you are walking
the line between will you or won't you. Both of
you have slipped from time to time and then you
crawl back up to where you were and then go
further. This is part of the learning.
Omal: depending on how far you slip depends on
what will happen. So, the people that left Sirius
were people in general that some may or may not be
ready to ascend and those that were not ready to
Russ: what would happen to those who weren't ready
or on the edge? If they had stayed on Sirius and
not ascended they would've died, right?
Omal: correct, they would've been reborn
Russ: so it was a gamble for them to take.
Russ: that maybe they'd ascend but maybe they
Omal: maybe if they stayed on Sirius they would've
Russ: right. Maybe a chance to start a new colony,
a new life with new ideals and old ideals
perfected. Was it that much of a temptation?
Omal: it is possible. It is possible that some of
those people that were on the edge that went on
colony trips ascended afterwards because the
decision that they had made benefited more people
and they had learned more. So it is really hard to
say that those that were on the edge made the
wrong or the right choice. Those that departed
from Sirius on colonization trips that weren't
ready made the right choice for them.
Russ: but what if Atlantis had worked?
Omal: if it had worked, then you would have a
higher technology at present. You would not have
had such a wide variety of learning experiences
but there again the spiritual level would've been
a lot higher.
Russ: would those people have ascended?
Omal: that is open for debate. The question is,
would they have learned? Maybe they would of,
maybe they wouldn't.
Russ: that's a good point.
Omal: it depends on how ready they are to accept
themselves. Only one person knows if they are
ready. In your case, you know if you're ready or
not in your heart of hearts.
Russ: the decision ultimately is yours.
Omal: so the path is not a steady, straightforward
path. You have walk a very rocky, bumpy, twisty,
windy road. Not sure if you were smart you could
get a poem out of that.
Russ: maybe some good song lyrics. Okay....
Omal: as I am neither a lyricist or a poet, I do
Russ: all right, so what was happening then after
Atlantis was they were trying to reestablish
Russ: that they had known. Then there was
apparently then you see the building of Karnak and
then the pyramid gets started. Apparently to keep
an eye on the guys in the east. That would be the
Assyrians coming back to check on things.
Omal: uh-huh. But the wording in itself is very
ambiguous, the people in the East. Now, that could
have several meanings. First of all, it could be
the people on your planet that live in the East.
Or, where does the dog star rise?
Russ: I see.
Omal: what is another name for the dog star?
Russ: Sirius. Okay, well the thing that gets me is
that ship that came in.
Russ: and that Mark in that incarnation went ahead
and got on....
Omal: and then blew it up.
Russ: and blew it up. But if those were people
that were out for the better good, I'm having a
hard time seeing that as being good.
Omal: how many years had elapsed since the fall of
Atlantis and the departure from Sirius?
Russ: let's see, Atlantis went down in 14
thou......departure from Sirius about 100
thou.......about quite a few years.
Omal: so, what is the deduction from that?
Russ: well, I was assuming that Sirius had
connections with Atlantis.
Omal: yes. But by the time of the great pyramid
and Karnak and the arrival of the.....
Russ: about four thousand years, roughly.
Omal: Sirius was no longer in existence on a third
dimensional level. There were other colonies and
the factions that had left, there was more than
one faction, but they were grouped together as a
faction on those that would ascend in those that
would not. But within each faction there were
splinter factions. If you have a look at your
planet today, at your religious faith, how many
factions were there at the start when Sananda
Russ: well if you count the Christians.......
Omal: we're just counting Sananda's factions when
Russ: you mean Jewish?
Omal: the 12 disciples.
Russ: oh, right. There was at least four.
Omal: no, there was one. When he ascended there
was one group. A hundred years later, how many
groups were there?
Russ: oh I see what you mean, ten.
Russ: yeah, too.
Omal: Western Orthodox and Eastern orthodox. A
thousand years later, how many?
Russ: it would still be the Eastern, the Western,
the Roman Catholic....
Omal: that's Western.
Russ: that's Western, yeah. The....
Omal: Western, Eastern, Greek Orthodox and a
little hybrid group that is start for another
faction. In the year 1600, how many factions were
there? I'll take a rough guess.
Omal: zzzzz, there was that Jesuits, the
Franciscans, the Protestants, the Catholics, the
Greek Orthodox, the Eastern Orthodox, the Russian
Orthodox, that is seven just there. How many are
Russ: many, yeah.
Omal: too many to count. From one group we have
many. Probably close to a thousand.
Russ: what was so special about that one group,
the first group, the twelve?
Omal: the twelve? They were in contact with the
original founder of their religion. He was not a
memory, he was not word-of-mouth, he was no longer
a point of view he was a living, breathing
individual. They were all present when he made his
famous speeches. They were all present when he did
Russ: but, he had hundreds of followers, why would
just twelve volunteer? Why not twenty, thirty,
Omal: look around you, how may people in this
house have been taught?
Russ: this house, you mean people who have come to
Omal: and out of those, how many are still around
on a regular basis? Regular basis being more than
eight times a year.
Russ: me and Skip. Carrie's not here anymore.
Bethany not a whole lot.
Omal: uh-huh. And from that, how many people have
been told about us?
Russ: probably a hundred.
Omal: correct. And out of those, how many have
actually sat down and learned from it?
Russ: quite a few actually.
Omal: exactly. From three people, four if you
count Mark. So, what effect does a small group
have over a large group?
Russ: it spreads, it can be quite effective over
Omal: a large group, you have arguments on what
what did he actually mean, what did he actually
say? I wasn't listening, I was at the back of the
room. The person next to me was talking. I turned
away and didn't quite catch what he said, he was
speaking too softly. He was speaking too loudly.
With a small group, there is none of that.
Russ: yeah, but I mean for me, this is the biggest
thing to hit earth since........
Omal: the invention of the wheel.
Russ: absolutely. And I mean people accept it and
they say that's great and that's it.
Russ: whereas I can't understand why they aren't
just wanting to know more, more, more like I do?
Omal: now think about what you have just said.
Think about human nature.
Russ: well that's what's so confusing about it. If
Sananda in his day was saying and doing higher
dimensional things all the time, that's what I
mean, why only twelve, why not......it's human
nature I guess. What Sananda had to face, gotta be
worse than what we do.
Omal: exactly. That is why a higher dimensional
being did what he did. Remember, it is easy to
stand up in front of an audience and say, "this is
the way it is, this is the word". What is hard is
to stand up and say, "this is the way it is and
this is why". You can take somebody and have them
stand up and say, "this is the way it is, blah,
blah, blah, blah". And then somebody stands up and
says, "this is the way it is, blah, blah, blah,
blah. This is why it is this way. This is how
we're going to achieve what we want to achieve,
this is the price we pay". Anybody can stand up
and say, "this is how it is". It takes patience,
understanding, higher intelligence to say, "this
is how, this is why, this is how we're going to
achieve it, this is the price we pay".
Russ: well, one thing I am learning is that fifth
dimensional beliefs and understanding is
relatively easy. Fifth dimensional actions are
way, way tough.
Omal: I believe Mark has a saying, that in war the
hardest things are easy and the easiest things are
Russ: I have the belief, I have the knowledge, the
action should follow right along there.
Omal: but they don't, do they?
Russ: yeah, it should just be like it's right
there, no problem. Just deal with it, and it's
Omal: and it doesn't. Now the question is, why?
Because you have to adjust your thinking to help
third dimensional individuals. You think in a
fifth dimensional way but yet you live in a third
dimensional planet. So, the way for advancement is
to come up with a compromise where you do not look
down on those that aren't ready. That you change
your line of thought. Instead of going, "well, I
can't help them". You try to help them and maybe
you will affect them, maybe you won't. But, the
trying is the medicine.
Russ: so the trying is the fifth dimensional
Russ: that have to be controlled.
Omal: correct. And not losing your patience or
being exasperated or infuriated or exploding or
having your buttons pushed by them.
Russ: okay, I'll try something tomorrow.......
Russ: with a gentleman at work at Heavenly who I
have seen now for both days that I have been up
there. Quiet sort of guy, almost angry and hostile
inside. He only shows it in just the fact of his
quietness. He doesn't say anything to anybody, he
just stays by himself and doesn't want friends
around or want to meet people. And me, I'm just
avoiding the guy.
Omal: now the question is, if you go in there with
both guns blaring, what could happen?
Russ: total rejection, basically........well, two
things could happen. One, he could be totally put
off by it, two, he could be open and.....
Omal: so, how should you go about it?
Russ: well subtly just say to start off with.
Omal: yes. Sort of like, "hi, how are you doing?"
Reply, "fine, thank you". Leave it that. The
following day again, "hi, how's it going?" "Fine,
thank you". "How was your evening?" "None of your
business". Fine, leave it alone. The following
day, "how's it going?" "Fine, thank you". "How is
your evening?" "Hmm, it was alright I suppose" and
so on. So it is subtle, it is learning how to
affect things slowly and gently.
Russ: hmm, I see.
Omal: next question please.
Russ: well, was Maxxus' other idea with the
pyramid to hook up with the pyramid on Sirius?
Omal: sorry, we can't disclose that at this time.
Russ: now, what happened on June 5th, 12 noon,
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