(Kiri helps out as ring mistress
while Tia prepares)
Kiri: okay, let us say hello and greetings.
Russ: hello, greetings, how's it going?
Kiri: it's going fine.
Russ: all right, so, you ring mistress or something?
Kiri: temporarily until Tia sorts herself out.
Russ: what’s wrong with Tia?
Kiri: you're going to have to ask Tia.
Russ: from a visual viewpoint?
Kiri: well she’s a bit flushed in the face but
that’s about it.
Russ: oh, understandable.
Russ: okay good. Hey, is there less light on Sirius
than there is on earth?
Kiri: are we talking third dimensional or sixth
Russ: third dimensional.
Kiri: no, there is more.
Russ: there is more light huh?
Russ: that shoots down that theory.
Kiri: what theory?
Russ: oh, someone came up with a theory that because
the aliens who visit Earth….
Kiri: uh-huh, have big eyes.
Russ: well that’s one thing and also the fact that
people who seem to be......have alien genes seem to
be more light-sensitive.
Russ: originally aliens coming from one place that
had less light.
Kiri: well that’s possible. You think about mental
evolution, where there is less light, people tend to
be more psychically in tune. You take the Celts….
Kiri: there’s less light there right?
Kiri: you take the tribes of the northern Plains of
America, far North such as the Eskimos.
Russ: what about like southern tip of South America
or southern Africa or…..
Kiri: South America? Again, you've got the stormy
Kiri: again there's less light.
Russ: you don't see much in the way of higher
Kiri: you're forgetting the Incas are long gone.
Russ: but then you have Atlantis which is almost
right on the equator…
Russ: lots of psychic activity there.
Kiri: yes but that was because they were an alien
species, they already had the abilities.
Russ: that’s true.
Kiri: and don't forget it all goes back to a genius
genetic messing around while somebody's being very
Russ: not naughty, accomplishing purposes but we're
going to get into that later on.
Russ: so what's the schedule for tonight anyways
since you're temporary ring mistress?
Kiri: well there’s Karra's here, there’s Omal here,
there’s myself, Tia's outside I believe and Alana.
Russ: oh good. I mean with Carrie, how do you want
Russ: want to wait till Tia gets back in?
Kiri: yeah, wait until Tia gets in, wait until her
sister mind gets here.
Russ: oh okay, cool enough.
Kiri: okay, now……
Russ: Carrie’s supposed to call at 8:30 or some time
in that general area.
Kiri: well I'm not even going to attempt to look at
the watch, last time it was a bit of a strain.
Kiri: she's probably fallen asleep, you'd have to
ask her sister mind when her sister mind finally
sits down and stops pouting.
Russ: pouting? Okay, it's going to be one of those
Kiri: okay, here we go, we're going to put on the
Russ: all right.
(Tia is finally ready and takes
over as ring mistress)
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: how’s it going love?
Tia: fine I think.
Russ: hmm, I'll go with that.
Tia: okay, let’s talk to my sister mind.
(we hear a button get pushed and a ring from
Tia: you can talk first.
Russ: hello love.
Carrie: I’m sorry, my sponsor was here.
Russ: that’s why you didn’t call.
Carrie: well, I was getting ready to or I was
waiting for him to take off and I was going to give
you guys a call.
Carrie: what are you guys doing?
Russ: channeling session.
Carrie: well I know that.
Carrie: how is everybody?
Russ: well, I’m doing good. Tia is......you’ll have
to ask Tia herself here.
Tia: I'm doing fine.
Carrie: have you heard of course about my new
Tia: yes I've heard and I've seen and I've listened.
Carrie: oh it's fantastic.
Carrie: so anyway no, it’s going good.
Tia: that’s great.
Carrie: we're just going through the growing and the
learning and the.......we’ve only been in it a
couple months and well of course I do my
frustrating, kicking, stomping, raging thing but,
I'll get over it right?
Tia: you’ll have to talk to Russ about frustrating,
kicking, stomping routines. Thumping routines,
banging on walls.
Tia: banging his......
Carrie: well, I’m not that bad yet.
Tia: banging his little head.
Tia: banging his head on walls.
Carrie: who is?
Russ: I hit a ceiling coming out of the magic room,
you know where it comes down over the stairs?
Russ: yeah, smacked my head into that thing.
Carrie: ouch Russ, you'd think as many times as
you’ve been in that magic room you'd know not to.
Russ: I know, it's still hurting.
Carrie: you’re not growing are you?
Russ: no, I’m drinking a beer.
Russ: I’m drinking a beer.
Tia: he’s drinking an adult beverage.
Carrie: you guys keep cutting off.
Tia: he’s drinking an adult beverage.
Carrie: uh-huh, uh-huh.
Carrie: okay, there we go.
Tia: is that better?
Carrie: I heard that. I was thinking of having one
myself but Mike drank the last one.
Tia: oh, of course you’re old enough to drink those
Carrie: yes, I am.
Carrie: I have been for two years now.
Tia: yeah, party at Carrie's.
Carrie: a year I guess. No, 21, 22, a year and a
Tia: year and a half, you’re just a youngster.
Carrie: I’m just a baby.
Carrie: but I’m growing at a rapid speeds.
Tia: oh that’s great, that’s great, got a long way
to go there.
Tia: don’t we all. So what are we going to talk
Carrie: oh I don’t know, what would you like to talk
Tia: astral travel.
Carrie: I haven’t been doing any.
Tia: no but you’ve been having weird dreams though
Carrie: oh boy I tell you, some really strange ones.
Carrie: but they’re really comfortable ones because
we finally got a bed.
Carrie: it’s like brand-new.
Carrie: we only paid $250.00 for it.
Tia: and it’s made out of nice wood.
Carrie: yeah, it’s got really pretty………it’s got a
really pretty headboard, I mean not what I would
invest in but….
Tia: it’s very bouncy too.
Tia: it’s a very bouncy too.
Carrie: ha ha, will you stop that? You’re not
supposed to do that Tia.
Tia: hey I can’t help it, I come over and what are
you two doing?
(Carrie starts giggling)
Tia: so I go sit on the roof.
Carrie: well that’s okay.
Tia: yes, I apologize.
Carrie: I have no shame, I’m not shy.
Tia: uh-huh, yes, I noticed that.
Carrie: umm let’s see, anything new in the stars?
Tia: no, not anything exciting, just that we will
carry on towing you around in your dreams.
Carrie: I know, I’ve been so how would you say?
Excuse my language clusterf**ked. My mind is just a
wandering basket case but I’m getting right back on
the right track, at least I’m getting back to my
Tia: uh-huh, and you're healing nicely according to
Carrie: yeah, I am.
Carrie: I feel fantastic.
Carrie: I really do, I feel great, especially
without that job…….
Carrie: you know?
Tia: when are you guys planning a family?
Carrie: oh, well we’ve been trying.
Tia: it takes quite a bit of practice you know.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: I know it does.
Tia: but patience.
Carrie: I know it needs that too.
Carrie: but it’s okay, I figure if it happens it
will and if it’s not.......if it doesn’t then it's
just not meant to be.
Tia: yeah, it’s a matter of just being patient and
relaxing and enjoying it.
Carrie: my biggest problem is not thinking about it…
Carrie: that’s what I need to learn.
Tia: yes, practice is the most important rule, it’s
a lot of fun too.
Carrie: yep we do that.
Tia: uh-huh yes, I do it a lot as well, I like
(Carrie laughs a little)
Tia: it keeps me nice and warm and keeps my engine
Carrie: that’s the best part about it.
Carrie: no, I have to not think about it…
Carrie: I guess a lot of women I talk to, they say
that when they stopped trying basically is when they
Carrie: when they stopped thinking about it is when
they did. And that’s really weird…..
Carrie: you know? You’d think that the human body,
if you think about it, you produce it.
Tia: not always, not always.
Carrie: I know.
Tia: but you have to remember, I don’t have a human
Carrie: (Carrie starts laughing) what? Okay, well
explain this to me, now I know you guys have
explained your face to me, what is your body like?
Tia: it’s humanoid but I have a lighter bone
structure, I have one third more bones than you guys
Carrie: that’s a lot of bones.
Tia: uh-huh, they’re very small bones. I’m a lot
more flexible, I can flip back over and scratch my
ear with my foot.
Carrie: that’s very flexible.
Carrie: that’s too flexible.
Tia: no it’s not. I have retractable fingernails.
Carrie: ohhh, that’s wild.
Tia: uh-huh, it’s great in a fight.
Carrie: I wish mine would grow.
Tia: yeah, it’s great in a fight. It’s also great
when I get really going.
Carrie: I’ll bet.
Tia: wreeeowww. I’m five-foot-two as you know, I
have slightly pointed ears, no smart comments Russ.
I have catlike eyes.
Carrie: that'd be cool.
Tia: uh-huh, it is very cool, I like them, I
wouldn’t want my eyes any other way. What else? I
have five toes, five fingers, don’t have any extra
joints, I’m slightly different construction lower
down in the pleasure department. You still there?
Carrie: yeah I’m here.
Tia: oh. Uh-huh, it’s slightly further forward and
slightly higher up than you guys.
Carrie: well that’s kind of weird.
Tia: well I think you guys are just as weird.
Carrie: oh I know, I mean I don’t mean to offend
you, I mean my visual image you know?
(Carrie starts laughing)
Carrie: I’ve been working a lot with my creative
Tia: it’s good for you.
Carrie: it’s been getting out of hand.
Tia: not that far up, it's about half an inch, about
half an inch further up than yours is.
Tia: uh-huh and of course I’m smaller as well.
Carrie: wow, that would be like….
Tia: really bugs my eyes out and Russ is sitting
there blushing like crazy.
Carrie: Tia, you’re probably going to get really mad
Carrie: but I’m taking my cat in tomorrow morning to
get declawed and neutered.
Tia: neutered I agree with, declawed no but I’ll let
that ride, you have your reasons.
Carrie: I have to.
Tia: yeah, he’s an indoor cat.
Carrie: she’s tearing up everything.
Carrie: she tears up me.
Tia: well she’s only a kitten.
Carrie: I know but she’s just…..and not only that,
the landlord told me that it was basically in our
Carrie: you know?
Carrie: and I really hate to but I have to.
Tia: well if you have to you have to but I’ll let it
ride but just this once. But I do agree with getting
Carrie: yeah spayed, that’s it.
Tia: uh-huh, neutered is what you do to guys….
Tia: and spayed…..
Carrie: I got in an argument about that once.
Tia: uh-huh and spayed is…
Carrie: I asked for that and got it rubbed in my
Tia: yeah, spaying is what they do to us.
Carrie: doing what?
Tia: that’s what they do to us when they fix us,
Carrie: spaying, yeah.
Carrie: yep. Yep, I have to because we’ve got five
kittens that we don’t know to do with right now.
Carrie: oh and they’re so cute, have you seen them?
Tia: no I haven’t actually, they seem to hide
although we did have three little kittens here.
Carrie: you had three kittens there?
Tia: well they've gone now, the mother moved them
and I’m not saying where.
Carrie: ohhh. Wait, your kittens?
Tia: no, not my kittens.
Carrie: oh, kittens at Russ’.
Carrie: oh okay.
Tia: gets a little bit convoluted at times doesn’t
Carrie: we had to take her away from her kittens.
Tia: oh how come?
Carrie: because in order for them to spay her she
had to be taken away from them…
Carrie: her milk could dry up.
Carrie: and also because they would only let us to
Carrie: they wouldn't let us to have our kittens.
Carrie: and her kittens are still at mom and
grandma’s so they’re getting fed and they're really
well taken care of.
Tia: well they don’t need the mother once they're
over six weeks really.
Carrie: no they don’t and they're like ten weeks
Carrie: you know what was really weird? Oh my God,
my cat put me in an uproar the other day.
Carrie: I was leaving the house and you know she’s
been through a lot lately.
Carrie: and I was leaving the house and I went to
say goodbye to her and I look down and she was
crying tears like a human.
Carrie: tears were coming off her cheeks, they were
dripping on my hands. And I grabbed her and held
onto her and I was holding her and I was rocking her
and I started crying myself. I started crying, I was
talking to her, I was going, “baby what’s wrong,
what’s wrong”. And she was laying her head up
against me and I thought she was sick.
Carrie: and it blew me away, I have never seen a cat
on third dimension cry like that.
Tia: well cats, they suffer from what's it? Post….
Carrie: partum depression.
Carrie: it was really weird, I felt this whole
emotional connection with my cat.
Carrie: I mean she’s my buddy, she is my best
Carrie: she walks around the house and talks to
Carrie: like as if I know what she's talking about.
So I'll just talk to her and she’ll just talk to me
and if I don’t, if I do not pick her up when I walk
in the house, she'll follow me until I do.
Tia: uh-huh, sounds a little bit like Mark's cat.
Mark has long, drawn-out conversations with his cat
and they don’t understand what each other is saying.
Carrie: but you feel like it.
Carrie: and it's so wild, it's so cool. It's like I
mean she was totally heaven sent.
Carrie: she was but now I have to take her in and
get her fixed and oh I feel so bad but......
Tia: don’t feel bad about it, she’s had one litter.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: I wanted to keep one of the kittens but the
landlord said we couldn’t and I told her……..because
I told her I wouldn't move in without my cat because
she at first she told me that no pets.
Carrie: and I told her, I said, "then I won’t move
in" and she said, "well why not?" And I said,
"because I won’t get rid of my cat." That’s just
Carrie: you know? I said, "I just won’t do that".
Carrie: and then she went, "okay a cat as long as
it’s declawed". I said, "okay".
Tia: oh that’s cool.
Carrie: but I’m getting kicked out of the bedroom.
Tia: somebody wants to go to sleep huh?
Carrie: baby you want to talk, you want to say hi?
Here, Mike wants to say hi.
Tia: hello Mike.
Tia: hello Mike, how’s it going?
Mike: all right, how are you?
Tia: oh excellent, awesome.
Russ: hi Mike.
Russ: what’s up bud?
Tia: yes? Russ says what’s up bud?
Mike: oh working.
Tia: ahhh and how’s business going?
Mike: pretty good.
Tia: so you’ve got a big job coming up soon huh?
Tia: oh that’s great, keep you busy and occupied and
lots of work.
Mike: lots, too much.
Tia: so you don’t have much time at home then?
Tia: not as much as one would like right?
Tia: right, makes it all the more pleasurable when
you do have time at home.
Mike: yeah it does.
Russ: hey Mike, how’s your home brewing going along?
You ever start that at all?
Mike: no, not yet.
Russ: planning on it at all in the future or just no
Mike: yeah I’m going to.
Tia: you have a backyard don’t you?
Mike: is yours any good?
Russ: ahh no, I’m still buying mine from the store
Tia: you have a backyard right?
Mike: yeah well, kind of, not very much.
Tia: yeah but it’s enough room to grow hops right?
Tia: how about growing some hops? They like the
Mike: I don’t know if they’d let me, we're renting,
I don't know if they'd let me.
Tia: well if you tell them it will improve the look
of the backyard.
Mike: that it will, yeah.
Tia: yeah it will, it will make it look very nice.
If you grow it in what’s the word? An arbor,
arboretum so it’s kind of all trestled up over
forming an arch?
Mike: yeah that'd be kinda cool.
Tia: uh-huh, I’ve been taking lessons in how to
Russ: cool man, well tell you what, we'll get some
brews going here me and you and we'll start trading
back and forth.
Russ: see how they come out.
Tia: I’ve got another question, how’s the heat
affecting you guys?
Mike: oh man, it’s bad.
Tia: that’s what I hear.
Russ: oh yeah right, you guys got a heat wave there
Mike: yeah, it’s getting better now.
Tia: yeah with the heat the water evaporates into
Mike: bugs are everywhere.
Russ: oh yeah, that’s right.
Tia: yes, no eight-legged varieties right?
Mike: oh there’s some.
Tia: yeah, I bet Carrie has fun with those.
Mike: oh yeah, she always yells. She sucks them up
with a vacuum.
(we start laughing)
Tia: good one, good one.
Tia: I wonder how she’d get on with the variety of
spiders we have on my planet. They have 10 legs and
they're big, mean puppies.
Mike: she wouldn’t like that.
Tia: no, they’ll suck a mouse dry in nothing flat.
Mike: she says don’t even think about it.
Tia: yeah they don’t like us, the spiders on my home
planet. They avoid us, mainly because we squash
Mike: yep. She won’t even do that, she either yells
for me or she just sucks them up with a vacuum. She
can’t smash them with anything, she thinks they'll
jump on her.
Mike: she wouldn’t even touch one, even if it was
dead she wouldn’t touch it.
Tia: I don’t blame her, they can be pretty nasty the
bigger ones. We have ones that can grow up to a foot
in body size.
Tia: yeah, they’re big and those are the ones you
don’t mess with because they’re highly poisonous.
Mike: that's real big.
Russ: all right dude, well we'll catch you later
Mike: all right.
Russ: you have a good sleep now.
Mike: I will.
Tia: yeah, sleep well.
Russ: bye man.
Russ: hey baby.
Carrie: oh, okay. I was going to say, you guys
better not have hung up.
Tia: just teasing.
Carrie: so in this new business, you know it is so
Carrie: it is so motivational, it is so cool.
Tia: that’s what we used to do to you is motivate
Carrie: but I lost it for a while.
Tia: yes well, all that moving and everything does
Carrie: oh yeah it does.
Carrie: slows you down big-time but yeah it’s
fantastic, I mean it’s just like, it talks about so
much…..you know we get positive tapes every week, we
get positive books a month….
Tia: yeah, book of the month.
Carrie: and you can go to the functions that you can
buy the stuff….
Carrie: for all the positive and motivational stuff
and like right now I’m reading a book called
"Believe and Achieve" and another one called "The
Art of Understanding Your Mate" and Mike’s reading
"Network of Champions".
Tia: yes, yeah!!!
Carrie: have you read it?
Tia: no I haven’t.
Carrie: oh. So you know it’s just fantastic, it’s
really boosting us along.
Tia: uh-huh. I’m going to put on the doctor so I’ll
see you shortly sister mind.
Tia: okay you take care of yourself.
Carrie: you too.
Tia: and I’m going to put the doctor on.
takes her turn talking to Carrie)
Karra: hello, greetings.
Carrie: hi Karra.
Karra: how are you doing Carrie?
Carrie: fine, how are you?
Karra: well I’m doing wonderful.
Carrie: that’s good to hear.
Carrie: I’m doing wonderful myself.
Karra: yes I know, Tia gives me full medical
Carrie: well, I’m doing really good. Tomorrow I’ve
got to call and set up a doctors appointment for
Carrie: all my physicals have come back negative
except for the last one.
Carrie: but I’m not too worried about it because
like I mean here you should know that 90% of them
Carrie: positive with some kind of something.
Karra: and there is one tiny thing that's a little
black spot right? And that involves nicotine.
Karra: I know that tone.
Carrie: I had my lungs x-rayed last month and
they’re doing great.
Karra: uh-huh, that’s good.
Carrie: so I just got to quit before they get bad.
Karra: that’s right. You see I just have to bring
that up just to niggle you a little bit.
Carrie: I know, I know. No I haven’t quit yet. I
need to but I haven’t yet.
Karra: yes, I know. Just keep on trying, one of
these times when you do try you will succeed.
Carrie: yep, I believe that.
Carrie: I know that. I just got to build myself up
so strong to the point where I don’t need them
Karra: uh-huh and you remember our discussion we had
Carrie: of what matter?
Karra: on how to spice up things?
Carrie: on how to do what?
Karra: spice up your marriage?
Carrie: oh, yeah?
Karra: that seems to have worked wonders doesn’t it?
Carrie: oh, we’ve just been doing fantastic.
Carrie: we’ve been working on everything together
and we've been doing really good.
Karra: uh-huh, I’m thinking of getting Russ to write
a book on it.
Carrie: on what?
Karra: on how to spice up one’s marriage.
Carrie: how to spice up one’s marriage?
Carrie: with a little information from overhead huh?
Carrie: that would be cool, I’ll bet it would be a
Karra: oh it would be.
Carrie: oh yeah, definitely. I think it’s something
people here on earth need a lot more.
Carrie: they need to get laid a lot more.
Carrie: excuse my expression.
Karra: we all do from time to time.
Carrie: true. I don’t know about you guys but I know
here, people do, definitely. Might loosen some
Karra: well, my little sister is constantly at it.
When she’s not working, she’s thinking about it and
when she’s not thinking about it she’s doing it.
Carrie: well, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Karra: no Kiri’s full of energy on it.
Carrie: that’s good.
Carrie: I think people would be a lot less stressed
if they did a little more.
Karra: uh-huh, I quite agree. It’s a great reliever
Carrie: oh yeah.
Carrie: oh yeah definitely. Yep, nope, we’re doing
really, really good. I mean we're building on our
communication, our friendship……
Carrie: our sex, everything.
Karra: yes and Tia says that you have a lack of
herbal plants in your house.
Carrie: a what?
Karra: a lack of herbal plants.
Carrie: yes we do.
Karra: but what I was thinking was you’ve got access
to plant pots right?
Carrie: to what?
Karra: plant pots, plant holders?
Carrie: yeah, I could get some.
Karra: what I was thinking for the winter what you
could do is you could grow them inside so you have a
supply all the year around.
Carrie: it wouldn’t be too cold?
Karra: well inside it wouldn’t be.
Carrie: I have a beautiful bay window that faces the
river, could I put them there?
Karra: yeah, the light comes in through there
Carrie: yeah it does.
Karra: uh-huh, if Tia’s information is right, that’s
where it comes in through most of the day.
Carrie: it’s real strong during the midday.
Karra: yeah, that’s the best time so during the
winter that would be the perfect place.
Carrie: okay, I’ll go ahead and do that. I got my
teddy bears there right now and I can just go ahead
and put the plants behind the teddy bears.
Karra: uh-huh and Tia says there's a heating vent or
area near there.
Karra: so that in the winter there would be plenty
of warmth there for them.
Carrie: yeah, there should be.
Carrie: but yeah, that’s a good idea. I’ll.....ow,
ow, stop, ow, no, ow………see, that’s why those claws
Karra: yes, you need a Band-Aid for that?
Carrie: I’m sorry what?
Karra: do you need a Band-Aid for that?
Carrie: no, I just took one off from yesterday too.
Boy, she’s nasty with those claws.
Karra: maybe you ought to clip them first before you
get her declawed.
Carrie: I’ve already had them clipped.
Carrie: just a front ones, I’m just getting the
Karra: yeah, well she needs the back ones for
Carrie: yeah, well the back ones, I believe that
they should……at least if you get the front one’s
taken off, the back ones, they still have
Carrie: they can still protect themselves somewhat.
Karra: uh-huh and they don’t scratch with the back
ones as much.
Carrie: no. Well she does, she kicks off with her
Carrie: and it drives me crazy because she'll kick
you with all four.
Carrie: but....we have a Venus fly trap….
Carrie: but he’s not eating.
Karra: well is it warm enough out there for him?
Carrie: oh yeah, it’s plenty warm.
Karra: uh-huh and it’s nice and humid?
Carrie: oh yes, very nice and humid.
Carrie: believe me, the humidity here, I can’t even
Carrie: it’s horrible. Last week, did you hear about
our heat front?
Karra: yes I heard about that.
Carrie: yes, it was horrible. I mean I did not leave
Karra: yes, well Russ told me that it was quite
Carrie: but people, they just overwork themselves. I
mean Mike came home a couple days from work sick.
Carrie: there was a lot of people here that got sick
during that time because they just work and they
sweat and then they stop sweating.
Karra: yeah. Oh, that’s a big, big danger sign.
Carrie: but they still keep working after they stop
Karra: the antidote for that…..
Carrie: and what people don’t realize is once you
stop sweating that means you’re out of fluids.
Karra: uh-huh. The thing is to keep drinking lots of
Karra: eat salt crisps, chips, salt chips…..
Karra: and drink…..
Carrie: the water and the salt going through your
Karra: uh-huh yeah, just keep pumping it in and if
it gets the point where you're unbearably hot,
something that works very well is a cold shower.
Carrie: you know, I used to……can you take hot
Carrie: like hot.
Karra: no, not really, not advisable.
Carrie: oh, okay.
Karra: yeah a cold shower because you’ve got the
lower the body temperature down. What happens is
that the internal core temperature goes up right?
Karra: and if you have a hot shower, that drives it
up even farther.
Karra: so you have a cold shower and you bring the
body temperature down which in turn brings the
internal temperature down.
(we hear Russ arranging things in the background)
Carrie: what is he doing?
Karra: I don’t know.
Russ: just cleaning up a little bit.
Karra: yes, last week, this will make you chuckle,
Russ went off rafting and his friend that he went
rafting with lost his keys. Tia was set up for a
channeling session so Russ didn't show up, Mark was
(Karra gets back to her
conversation with Carrie)
Karra: yeah, Tia was really busy.
Carrie: say yeah for Tia.
Karra: uh-huh. Well I’m going to put on the
Karra: okay so you take care of yourself.
Carrie: I will and I’ll keep my health and my
positive attitude and…..
Carrie: I’m working on a major project….
Carrie: and I’ve got a clue you in on this before
Carrie: my major project is curing myself of a
disease. The disease is pure negativity.
Karra: that’s very good.
Carrie: I’m curing myself of that being I truly
believe that if you’re told something all your
life you become that something.
Carrie: and I was told all my life I was sick so
my body became sick and now I’m trying to cure
myself of that process of thinking and cure myself
of that disease.
Karra: that’s great, that is exactly what we want
you to do. Now you take.......
Carrie: yep, I feel really positive about it and I
don’t say I have cancer, I try to catch myself…..
Carrie: I don’t say I have cancer, I say I had.
Karra: that’s right, past tense. Anyway…….
Carrie: I had cancer or because the more I say I
Carrie: the more it makes that one little self
from my brain project in through my body….
Carrie: and it bursts out that sickness.
Carrie: so if I say I had, that stops that self
from going out.
Karra: okay, we’re going to put on Kiri now.
Karra: okay you take care of yourself.
Carrie: you too.
Karra: oh, one little thing….
Karra: when Mike has a cold shower, watch out, it
releases a lot of testosterone.
Carrie: well that’s okay, I think I’ll make him
have a cold shower in the morning.
Karra: okay bye.
(Kiri now reunites with her old friend)
Kiri: hello, yo babet.
Carrie: how’s it going?
Kiri: awesome and how’s it going for you?
Carrie: oh it’s fantastic.
Carrie: things are really looking up here.
Kiri: that’s great.
Carrie: they’re really starting to.
Carrie: yep, I’m real excited.
Kiri: yeah, me too.
Carrie: you are?
Carrie: about what, or should I ask?
Kiri: oh just my usual hormonal imbalance.
Carrie: okay, that’s what I figured.
Kiri: uh-huh, we embarrassed Russ last week.
Carrie: why, what did you do to him?
Kiri: oh we didn’t do anything, we just got a
little bit horny up here.
Carrie: oh, another one of those huh?
Kiri: yes it was but there was nobody in authority
present so we got a little bit free and risqué so
we had him blushing.
Carrie: it’s good for him.
Kiri: oh yes it is.
Carrie: keeps him on his toes.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay well, we’ll let you finish to
talking to Russ.
Kiri: okay? And big hugs and kisses from all of
Carrie: oh, me too definitely.
Carrie: and you guys take care, thanks for calling
Kiri: oh we will and Tia says she’s going to drop
by tomorrow night.
Carrie: okay, I’ll be here.
Kiri: yeah, she says won't come by too early.
Carrie: okay yeah, not too early.
Kiri: uh-huh, she says she’s going to come by
midnight of your time.
Carrie: I should be here.
Carrie: I should hope to be here.
Kiri: okay she says 1:30 then.
Kiri: okay, I’ll see you later.
Carrie: okay take care.
Russ: hi love.
Russ: hi love.
Carrie: are you there?
Russ: yeah, I’m here.
Carrie: are they cutting off the channeling
Russ: no, no, they’re just changing people.
Carrie: oh okay. Well I don’t want to keep you too
Russ: okay love. Well anyway, I'll give you a call
back and talk about computers and stuff later on.
Carrie: yeah please do because if you can order
them from me that would be so awesome, that would
help me meet my goal.
Russ: all right?
Carrie: you’re so cool, thanks for giving me the
chance, I like that.
Russ: we’ll see if it works.
Carrie: oh it will, we'll work on something.
Russ: okay love.
Carrie: okay bye.
Russ: all right.
(we hear a dial tone)
Russ: oop....love you too darling.
cut her off?
Russ: well I thought she had already left.
we on to the other side?
Russ: well yeah.
time flies doesn’t it?
Russ: uh-huh, yes it does.
(Omal rekindles some old
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: and how are you functioning?
Russ: headache's gone away, I’m doing pretty good
Omal: good, let us proceed with due haste as is
Russ: alrighty. Pretty much everything I’ve got
here is going to take like the rest of the
Russ: are you in any rush?
Omal: no I’m not.
Russ: okay, because we’ve got a lot of stuff to go
Russ: okay, of the seven races that came to
Atlantis, was one a race that was practically
non-corporeal at some time or any time?
Omal: after Atlantis.
Russ: which would put it where?
Omal: they became a different form after Atlantis.
Russ: you mean those that died?
Omal: yes, their species died out on your
Omal: but in essence they stayed.
Russ: oh. So did they come in the original five
races…..or I mean seven races?
Russ: oh I see, and then they died but they stayed
on instead of going onto another plane of
existence, they stayed on the planet.
Russ: now is this what we would go ahead and call
the devas or elves or spirits?
Omal: in essence yes, in essence yes. It’s a
little bit more complicated and that in itself to
explain would take approximately one of your
Russ: can we work on that sometime, maybe in
sections or something?
Omal: in sections would be more useful.
Russ: like little bits at a time I'm saying.
Omal: because just to explain what they are now
and where they are now were to take approximately
as I said one of your hours. To explain them in
full detail, you are talking of somewhere in the
region of possibly 24 hours to explain their full
history from when they arrived to what they are.
Russ: well, to shorten things, what is my
connection with them and why do I feel so
connected with them?
Omal: the connection is of what you did to them.
Russ: what did I do to them?
Omal: as a geneticist, you used their material
against their will…..
Omal: and you're trying to right that.
Russ: okay, so by going through and working with
you a little bit on this will help me better
understand to be able to hopefully correct those
imbalances that I caused.
Russ: so now more than ever I'd like to definitely
work on this in sections.
Russ: thank you. Alrighty, now we have…..I’ve been
working on the book “Edgar Cayce on Atlantis” and
in that, we're working on two groups of people at
a point that became very antagonistic. And one was
called the Sons of Belial and one was called the
Sons of the Laws of One or the Law of One.
Russ: are you familiar with that at all?
Omal: you know what the law of one is.
Russ: I’m going to assume that means unity.
Omal: not quite, the Golden Rule, the only rule.
Russ: do onto others?
Omal: uh-huh, correct.
Russ: okay, now I’m assuming I’m not of that camp
back then, I’m on the other side.
Russ: but Mark is on that camp.
Russ: okay. Now, they were based on two brothers,
one was called Belial and one was called Atlan who
was a prince of Atlantis. Just offhand, that’s not
another name for Maxxus and Naxxus would it?
(the names of Mark and myself as we were known
Omal: the names are irrelevant.
Russ: okay, I understand. Okay the Sons of the Law
of One were a pure race, they wanted to stay a
pure race, sort of like the Sons of God whereas
the Sons of Belial, they projected themselves into
creatures apparently and became Sons of Men, I’m
not sure how that worked. I would think that was
more like......that dealt with what I did.
Omal: yes, genetic tampering.
Russ: genetic tampering is what I thought it might
Russ: because the way it was said in the
channeling from Edgar Cayce that you couldn't put
it in genetics form……
Russ: so that’s what he came up or the channel
did. Okay now the conflict took place before the
first destruction or led to so I’m assuming
because we were first comers…….
Omal: yes, the antagonistic ones.
Russ: right, that this is part of the first
destruction that came upon it.
Russ: and so…..
Omal: if you remember that Atlantis was at its
height when you two had your disagreement.
Russ: right, so this would be just prior to 50,000
Russ: okay. Now the Sons of Belial used material
things for self and the Sons of the Law of the
One, they believed that the soul was given by the
creator or entered from outside sources into a
true projection of the mental and spiritual self
at given periods.
Russ: now does this mean that they were talking
Omal: yes, they were talking about levels of
existence and development mentally.
Russ: I see and the Sons of Belial were more into
the material now and……
Russ: here and now and not trying to raise
themselves up so much as what’s going on right now
Russ: okay, I understand.
Omal: in essence.
Russ: and that’s where the conflict came
Omal: sort of yes.
Russ: okay, we’ll work on more of that here in a
Omal: you have to remember I have to be very
careful with what I say.
Russ: right, well I understand.
Omal: notice I’m not giving you any explanations,
it is a wide catch-it-all.
Russ: well that’s because you want me to learn on
my own and……
Omal: partly yes and partly due to the fact that
we are walking a tightrope.
Russ: right, so I’m giving you information that
I’ve learned that we'll just work on it as we go.
Russ: I’m not really looking for any big
Russ: all right, rejuvenation techniques were used
back then apparently and they would allow for up
to a thousand years of life.
Russ: they weren’t used?
Omal: there were not used.
Russ: oh, so they didn’t have rejuvenation
Omal: no, the bodies were self-rejuvenating.
Russ: for up to a thousand years of life?
Omal: oh and a little bit longer.
Russ: that’s funny, they don’t do that on Sirius
Omal: no, it is an advancement in technology and
it is unfortunate that that is the way that it
goes. You advance in technology, you lose a little
bit of your life.
Russ: oh I see.
Omal: it can extend your life but it reaches a
point where it does in actual fact cut down on
Russ: hmmm, okay. Hmm, so that’s a little bit more
Russ: okay, now one thing I noticed or one item I
noticed was in the time of the withdrawing from
the Law of the One, the temple built in opposition
of those guys was a priestess there who was
creating the high influence of radial energy.
Russ: what are they talking about radial energy,
is that what Karra and I are talking about,
working on natural energy?
Omal: yes, correct or I assume so, it is a little
Russ: yeah it is, that was in the channeling
though and it was like hmm, "where have I…..?"
Omal: sometimes people can be deliberately vague
to mislead or vague due to the fact that they
could get themselves into a whole lot of this you
might say doo doo.
Russ: right, well that’s why I’m kind of trying to
Russ: okay, now the radial energy was from the
rays of the sun that were turned on crystals in
the pits that make connections with the internal
influence of the earth.
Russ: now we’ve talked about this before that
their energy sources were a lot of it Earth
Russ: and so I’m assuming that’s what they’re
talking about here is that same kind of…
Omal: in essence yes.
Russ: now what I don’t understand was, why if
you’re using the energy of the earth, do you need
the rays of the sun? Are the two connected at that
Omal: you can increase the efficiency and heat of
the energy that would be generated to a higher
point to power whatever you wish. It is a little
bit like using the crystals for focusing.
Russ: oh I see, like lasers kind of.
Russ: oh okay, understandable. All right, now they
set in motion fires of the inner portions of the
earth into a destructive force. Now there was two
points of this I was little bit confused about and
that was according to the channeling that was
coming through was that there was large animal
lifeforms threatening to overrun Atlantis.
Russ: and I…..nowhere have we ever talked about
large animal lifeforms threatening to overrun
Atlantis unless we're talking about man in it's
Omal: that is a possibility.
Omal: or it could be one of those factors
deliberately put in to mislead from the truth
which could be harmful for some individuals.
Russ: that’s true. Now apparently the destruction
that was used in the first destructive point was
channeling these destructive forces and taking out
portions of Atlantis and I was wondering maybe
because some of the conflict we’re talking about
they were also taking out homes of the Sons of the
Law of One?
Omal: let me put it this way, there is an energy
source in your planet’s crust that can destroy
cities, what is it?
Omal: no, it can be purified and made into a
Russ: oh, nuclear energy.
Russ: oh I understand. So they could tap into that
Omal: quite possibly yes.
Russ: oh okay. Hmm okay, now apparently also then
we’ve talked about the pole shift before.....
Russ: and is this the part then where we're coming
into the pole shift where……? No, the pole shift
Omal: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: okay right. Then it's also talking about in
this channeling about air ships that were picking
up ambassadors and stuff from some places and
bringing them to central meeting points.
Omal: yes, very much like aircraft do today.
Russ: right. Now skipping a couple pages here, one
of the things I noticed in this was that the
aircraft were powered by remote control….
Russ: and they used along with elements found and
not found in earth’s atmosphere, remote control
for crafts that could travel above the earth and
under the water.
Russ: and maybe I was thinking that’s why me and
Mark are so much into radio control.
Omal: it is possible.
Russ: it’s remindable. And then a lot of the
destruction happened because they turned up the
power on high for those same things that were
using that and that started to break up the
Omal: sounds like to me it is saying that the
continents at that point were one, that is not so.
That again sounds likely it was to mislead.
Turning up the power, does this imply the routes
the controlled vessels were traveling along or is
it the power of the energy that was powering their
Russ: that’s what I would be assuming is that they
were using the same inner forces. They talk about
here the terrible crystal….
Russ: and how it was....it was a terrible, mighty
crystal called the Firestone. It was surrounded by
nonconductive stone like asbestos and then there
was a dome over it that was pulled back for star
Russ: so, I do remember a crystal and working with
it but I thought there was more than one so…
Omal: it is quite possible that was more than one.
Russ: so we’re just talking about just one of the
main ones possibly.
Russ: all right, now then, one the things I’m
noticing is that there was an experiment going on
back then that is still going on and that is that
Mark and myself kind of been working on bringing
about what we failed to do back then. And I’m
going to go over with Karra on that but my meeting
yourself and Roger seemed to be an integral part
of the plan.
(Roger Pinion, the original channel of Omal when
we first met in Sedona)
Russ: and with all that.......two things here,
number one, this is a question I’ve already got
the answer to but I just want to pose the question
Omal: if you have the answer, why pose the
Russ: well because….
Omal: you would like to see if your assumption is
Russ: right. Okay, with all that could have gone
wrong, what are the odds that it could’ve gone
Omal: just as many as could’ve gone wrong.
Russ: okay and the answer I came up with was that
it’s 100% certain that it would’ve gone right due
to the law of parallel lifetimes.
Russ: no matter what happened, at one point…..
Omal: that possibility always remains that it will
come out as desired on whichever universe or
parallel line you are following.
Omal: but the question is, which is the right one?
Omal: how do you know that by following this line
you are doing the right thing? You have to
remember, when there is a split, Ashtar Command
splits off as well.
Russ: right. But still, it seems that the fact
that our consciousness now is here, that it should
show that we’re on the path that allows for the
most maximum growth.
Omal: it is a little tricky concept for you do
grasp but you could be having his exact same
discussion on another line.
Russ: tricky, only because it’d have to be such an
infantizemal change between this and that to get
to this point.
Russ: well, that’s true.
Omal: it is possible, remember, all things are
possible. The fact that Mark could be wearing a
shirt that is a slightly different shade.
Russ: and that would be the only change?
Omal: possibly, he could be left-handed, you could
Russ: well that could give people nightmares to
work out all that.
Omal: correct, that is one of the reasons we do
Russ: I don’t blame you. Anyway, because of all
this, I just wanted to congratulate you and the
Council on handling this matter because at no
point back in Sedona did you ever mention Lake
Tahoe as a place to go and….
Omal: we have our reasons for not mentioning
things, it is called nonintervention……
Omal: or minimal intervention.
Russ: but at the same time it seemed like you led
Roger away at the most critical time for me.
Omal: because you needed to learn to stand. You
had learned but you had not learned how to stand.
We were still a crutch for you. You would ask our
advice on what should you do….
Omal: and that is not what we are here to do. We
are here to help you stand on your own.
Omal: I would give you long-winded explanations
that were deliberately designed to be vague,
misleading, point you in directions that were
useful but not necessarily the goal or the
direction that you wished to go.
Russ: right. But it was handled beautifully, I
Omal: thank you, it takes a lot of planning and
foresight and speculation on different possible
Russ: well it led us to this point and…..
Omal: think of a hundred outcomes and there is a
hundred and one. Think of those hundred and one,
there is a hundred and two. It is very hard and
tricky and it still not known if this is the
correct decision and goals that we have been
Russ: right, but since you’re here with me, that
means there is an aspect of you with me in
millions of other places also doing…….
Omal: correct and there is also where we have
Russ: right, there is ones where we’ve never met.
So yeah, we’re stuck on the same timeline here,
parallel life so we'll just make the best of it.
Omal: it does not matter, we are together in other
Russ: right, so we will accomplish what we are
here to do no matter what. It just takes a while
to get used to the fact that there is no failure,
somewhere along the way it is going correctly. The
fact that you’re not there…..
Omal: correct and there is also somewhere along
the way where it has gone drastically wrong.
Omal: you have to remember when looking at
parallel universes that you have to look at the
negative as well as the positive.
Omal: nowhere are you at the center if you follow
my meaning. You’re either on the positive or the
Russ: right and there is no way to determine which
Russ: until later on…..
Omal: correct, you do not know if this is the
positive or the negative at this time.
Russ: right. How about can you go by feeling, like
if it feels positive?
Omal: that sometimes is not always the way, that
in itself can be misleading. When you speculate
and make decisions, you have to go on what you
would call a gut feeling. Something that may feel
negative right now could turn out positive.
Omal: something that feels positive could turn out
bad. To quote from your popular entertainment, "it
may feel fair but it is bad".
Russ: ahh. Now if I get this right, and I think I
do, then we will never know if this was the right
path or not because even if we look back and say,
"well that brought us to here", well there is
still a whole bunch more in the future…
Russ: and so we can’t tell if that was the right
or……..because the future hasn’t arrived yet even
Omal: correct, you are constantly struggling for
better and to be on the right path.
Omal: you will know that you’re heading in the
right path for the time being when and if you
Russ: hmm, I see.
Omal: that is the right path at the time. Whether
or not you go forward or backwards at that point
again is a point of origin. If you go forward that
is good, if you slide back, that may be good
because there is something you need to learn.
Omal: you have to remember that ascending or not
ascending is not good or bad, it is just progress.
Progress is what your species constantly strives
for. That is a very necessary function of you.
Omal: the fact that we hang little carrots in
front of you to prod you along the way….
Russ: well that’s true.
Omal: whether or not that in itself is good or
bad, one does not know.
Russ: well you might want to stick around for when
I talk to Karra real quick because I’ve got a lot
more to work on with her about this.
Russ: okay now, let’s go on to the last little
bits as I've got here so I can break you free. All
right now, after I did my work, was it carried on
by other people for new races?
Omal: ohhhh, we’re walking on very thin, gray ice.
Omal: put it this way, your work was not
Russ: ahh, all right, that’s close enough. Okay,
Pyrenees is a place that some of the survivors got
Omal: ahhh, the Pyrenees?
Russ: yeah, in the French Alps approximately?
Omal: no, that would be on the French, Spanish
Russ: is the Pyrenees?
Russ: okay so that makes it about right, yeah that
is what we did talk about before, okay. All right,
now, there was a stone or a whole ruins uncovered
in the Yucatán in 1933. Now it is part of the
records of making of the facets and cuts that were
used in the great crystals in Atlantis and those
records were stored in three places. One was still
in Atlantis, one was in the temples in Egypt and
one was in the Yucatán.
Russ: now the ruins that were uncovered in the
Yucatán according to this channeling has an emblem
on it. They were uncovered in 1933 and they were
brought to the U.S. and some of them are in the
Penn State University Museum, Chicago, and
Russ: would it be useful to check those out now or
have we already figured out our things in our
technology as it is?
Omal: it would be useful to check them out, the
fact that the translations could be wrong.
Russ: hmm, so I’ll have to retranslate it.
Russ: I see.
Omal: the Rosetta Stone as it were was not
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: and you are also forgetting or they were
also forgetting inflection. Tia herself is a
master of inflection......mistress of inflection.
Russ: so by writing stuff down doesn’t mean you’re
going to get the inflection correct.
Russ: ahh, it's a dead language so….
Russ: all right, now apparently they had
communications with Mu and also a place called Om.
Russ: now I never heard of Om ever in anything
Omal: is it a place of irrelevance at this time.
Russ: okay. And there was a place called Myra or
Mayra in what is now Nevada and Colorado which
some of the survivors were told to go to according
to the channeling. Now, the last part we’re
working on here, in according to the channeling,
22,500 was approximately the time of the second
disturbance and would that be sort of correct in
our timeline we're working on? In the general
Omal: general vicinity yes, it is not an accurate
Omal: you have to remember that your planet’s
mathematics even at its advanced form in your term
Omal: for example, let me hear you count from five
B.C. to five A.D.. Please, count.
Russ: five B.C., four B.C., three B.C., two B.C.,
one B.C., Christ and then it would be one A.D…….
Omal: there is no Christ, it goes directly from
B.C. to A.C. You have one B.C., one A.D..
Russ: oh it does, oh I see.
Omal: there is no zero, there is no Christ. It
goes automatically from one to the other and the
fact that the birth of your person who went by the
name of Christ happened somewhere between four
B.C. and five A.D.. A little bit of a mathematical
quandary there is there not?
Russ: tough to keep track on.
Russ: I see your point.
Omal: and the fact that your current translations,
the numbers I, X, C, they use the Roman alphabet
as opposed to your current Arabic numbers.
Omal: one to five I believe are Arabic numbers.
Russ: uh-huh, yeah I can see the problem with
trying to date back that far.
Russ: you would have a lot of discrepancies.
Russ: all right, now according to some ships that
were...or a research ship, some columns were found
6,000 feet deep off of Peru….
Russ: in what’s called the Milne-Edward
Russ: and they were carved columns with writing on
Russ: anyway, some of the stuff was put in some
publications, so I'm going to try to see if I
can't track those down and see if I can find out
what the writings were.
Omal: okay, let us continue, we are short on time.
Russ: okay, last part here is......similarity
between Cro-Magnon and the refugees would account
for people coming up with Atlantean refugees but
thinking they're Cro-Magnon.
Omal: it would also account for some, as Kiri
would put it, very horny individuals.
Omal: think, maybe there maybe more male survivors
than female or vice a versa. Your species is
inherently very horny.
Russ: oh I see, kind of a battle for women kind of
Omal: uh-huh, Cro-Magnon are close enough to be
not much of a problem.
Russ: all right, that’s it.
Omal: okay, I’ll be back.
(Tia steps in to make the change between speakers)
(Tia comes in speaking some Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, I’ll put on Karra.
(Karra is back now that
Carrie has left)
Russ: hi sweetheart.
Karra: hey, how’s it going?
Russ: good love, how’s yourself?
Karra: I would’ve liked to have talked to Carrie
for longer but we had to hustle a little bit.
Russ: yeah, it’s not just a Carrie session
Karra: unfortunately no.
Russ: all right.
Russ: I only have one major section we’re going to
go over here.
Russ: okay, now we’re talking to Omal about
experiments still going on….
Karra: uh-huh, with genetics.
Russ: with genetics, correct.
Russ: now, I see that you and Kiri as I remember
were both with us in that time period back in
Karra: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: so it would seem like you and Kiri were
reborn on Sirius as one half of the solution.
Russ: whereas Mark and I chose a third dimensional
Russ: to become the other half of the solution.
Karra: uh-huh and it is a matter of bringing the
two half’s together.
Karra: to produce a whole.
Russ: right. Now certain key triggers were placed
in both Mark and myself to go off at certain
points to guide us to our quest for consciousness.
Karra: and us.
Russ: and you. So we came together at last with
key learning experiences that we’ve all picked up,
all rigged to integrate later on.
Karra: you have to remember that it is not put
into a family because a family can become extinct.
It has to be spread out through a whole entire
species. The keys are still there for all of your
earth species. It is being filtered in and fed
into our species through crossbreeding.
Russ: oh I see. So what we’re doing now with our
children is spreading more of those keys in.
Karra: uh-huh, it may not be completed yet. Only
one person knows when it will be completed.
Russ: but the children that we have together are a
key to the original goal of gaining paradise.
Karra: uh-huh and only one person can answer that
Russ: who’s that?
Karra: ask yourself, it’s in there somewhere dear.
Russ: yes, I know.
Karra: what was your purpose, what was your goal?
To achieve what?
Russ: paradise. Achieve a peaceful existence in
Karra: but you were very antagonistic at the time,
you have to look for the key. What we may perceive
as being the goal may not be, that could just be a
stepping stone. What are you trying to create, a
super race? I really don’t know what the answer
is, only you know.
Russ: yeah this kind of reminds me a little bit
about Mark Remillard.
(from the science fiction novels by Julian May
called the "Galactic
Karra: that could be part of the keys put into
Russ: well you know...remember how he……
Karra: yeah, the Mental Man Project.
Russ: the Mental Man Project.
Karra: yeah, I can pick it out of your mind. Yes,
I know exactly where you’re going. Maybe the
author is part of the project, the genetic
tampering except for the fact that it is not as
Mark Remillard planned it to be a quick, sudden
thing but a slow, long, drawn-out thing. Maybe you
weren’t as self-centered and as in a hurry as Mark
Maybe you worked out that you could accelerate the
evolution of our species by doing it by altering
genetically with a primitive race?
Russ: so would I be planning for a future of now?
Some 50,000 years later?
Karra: 50,000 years is but a blink of an eye.
Russ: well that’s true, especially if you live for
one thousand years, that’s only 50 incarnations…….
Russ: if you were thinking that way back then.
Russ: or if I was.
Russ: hmm, now do our guides have sort of a stake
in seeing this goal realized?
Karra: ummm yes. It is very hard to say where you
were planning to go as a geneticist. What was your
goals? Reach in there, see if you can find them.
Not right now……
Karra: but later on. What is your.....here's a
better way to do it....what is your ultimate
vision of where you are going? You as a species,
us as a species, omnipotent?
Russ: no, but I would say higher dimensional. As I
remember, we were all coming from third
Russ: preparing to change over to sixth dimension.
Russ: so, I would assume that we were actually
Karra: I don’t know how close or how far away we
are from the answer.
Karra: we can sit here and debate it all night…
Russ: no, no, no, I.......
Karra: and not achieve or be close or we could be
bang on or we could hit it and then drift off
again. It is so hard to hit the perfect union.
Russ: well like I was talking with Omal is that
we're working on parallel lifetime’s anyway and
Karra: I prefer not to think on that because as
Omal pointed out, it is a headache giver.
Russ: well that’s true.
Russ: well that’s all right.
Russ: okay, you’ve given me some good stuff to
Karra: yes, something to think on.
Russ: what is the connection between Sirius and us
and why was it set up so that it would happen the
way it did?
Karra: because Sirius is the rootstock, that is
Russ: that’s it but it’s also the fact that’s it’s
not just Sirius, it’s sixth dimensional Sirius.
See what I mean?
Karra: ooohhh.......yeah I see what you mean but
we’re walking a very tight, tight rope.
Russ: but that’s the whole point to this, is
knowing where this little point is going to take
Karra: I could make a mistake and get myself into
a lot of trouble, we have to be very careful.
Russ: well don’t, don’t.
Karra: because we’re walking as I say….
Russ: this is just like I say, I’m just talking to
myself at this point.
Karra: hey, this is your nightmare, work your way
out of it.
(that gets Russ chuckling)
Russ: no doubt.
Russ: well that’s no problem.
Russ: anyway love, I’ll be with you tonight
Karra: ohhh, promises, promises.
Russ: I’m going to be looking at "The Sound Of
Music" and I'm going to be hooking up with you on
Karra: okay, well I’ll see you later..
Russ: so invite Alana over if you want.
Karra: okay, bye.
(Tia returns to end the evening)
(Tia comes in catlike)
Russ: hey Tia, how’s it going?
Tia: it’s going fine.
Russ: oh good.
Tia: uh-huh. I thought that was funny.
Russ: yeah, I did too.
Russ: but it gave me something to work on.
Tia: oh yes.
Russ: I just have to puzzle it out.
Tia: uh-huh. I thought something else was funny as
Russ: oh, what’s that?
Tia: somebody getting looped on Sunday.
Russ: oh yeah, that’s right.
Tia: I thought that was absolutely hilarious.
Russ: that was good for a few laughs.
Tia: uh-huh. Hmm, so what are we going to talk
about in the meantime?
Russ: I don’t know, how much time do we got?
Tia: hmm, about five minutes.
Russ: oh very little, not even that.
Tia: oh really?
Russ: yeah, uh-huh. Closing in on.....
Tia: yes, so you have to rerun the tape to find
out what Omal said.
Tia: uh-huh. Oh well……
Russ: I’m sorry, I’m just…..
Tia: oh that’s all right, your mind’s all agush
and washing around in circles going
Russ: yeah, I'm looping now.
Russ: so what did Mark and myself even though we
were antagonistic, and you, Kiri and Karra all had
in common that we had work on later on to
Tia: I don’t know, I’m not a geneticist or a
Russ: yeah but you are part of the solution.
Tia: I don’t think in this body I am.
Russ: no, you’re quite wrong in that actually.
THE TAPE ENDS