Archivist Notes: It was a long time coming
but the channeling session for the month of
September is epic for the singular reason Sananda
first gives his first channeling to our group. It
wasn't a long visit and we'll explain in more detail
but this was all about the rest, the teaching and
knowledge we learned from the other speakers as
well. Kiri is a good example and even though she
wasn't the ring mistress, she takes over for Tia and
helps me with a design of an energy device that
utilized crystals, a copper tube and copper wire. It
led to a prototype we still use on occasion. Her
sister was next in line to talk because Mark had
hurt himself accidentally and so Karra was letting
me take on the healing this time. Between some
crystals and her help, I worked on Mark's leg to
give it some relief he was to see a doctor soon. It
was during the transition between speakers that
Sananda made his entrance which caught Tia by
complete surprise. He only came to ask questions in
what seemed to be a test of our worthiness to search
as one of the voices for the command but it appeared
we passed the test. Omal follows on after Sananda
though he has to be sure not to give too much away
with the head of Ashtar Command in the room. With
the differences lightworkers were making in the
culture of the planet, persecution for their ideals
was discussed as to how mitigate the effects. He
reminds me it is a necessary evil. Side two brings
on his reminder of the light and the dark, yin and
the yang that make up our world. Also, a lesson on
time travel and one on parallel worlds. Tia returns
to talk about the new Atlantis while Kiri ends the
session to help further with some more energy device
designs. Now, let's go into greater detail of what
The night started off normally with no
insight into how important it would be beforehand.
Kiri stood in as ring mistress due to Tia feeding
her and Mark's triplets. That turned out not to be a
bad thing as I had some design questions for Kiri
regarding an Atlantean power rod I planned to make.
Just crystals and copper, it was as simple as it
could be yet a prototype I made later still
functions in directing energy to this day. We also
worked on other devices designed to capture and
direct subtle energies for a variety of uses. Kiri
was able to help determine how to alter its design
for different purposes depending on the type of
crystal used in it's construction. Next, Karra and
Kiri meld their minds so that Kiri manipulate Mark's
body while Karra could focus on the healing about to
happen on Mark's leg he had injured accidentally.
For this healing, Karra would shadow my while I did
the healing under her mental directions. She helps
in healing me from the effects of working with such
high energies before we get into our normal question
and answer session. From it, we learn that was one
of the reasons for Karra to join the Sirian Defense
Force was so she could learn how to protect her
family should there ever be a need. Channeling next
was the head of Ashtar Command making his first of
two appearances in the archives. Sananda was Jesus
in a former life and it's apparent he has lost none
of his ability to be in the moment. This was a time
for him to quiz me on my psychic abilities and how I
was using them in society in general. One question
was morality test on how would I deal with making a
decision that would kill the person having to carry
out a task I would ask them to do to save everyone
else but them. Having seen "Wrath of Khan", the
answer was easy. His last question was the best as
it was almost an interview where he asked where
would I like to work once ascended. That was also an
easy answer as I would want to definitely be
assigned to Hades Base. Finishing up the side was
Omal who explains that as the light and dark forces
meet in the future, its a required part our
advancing from the third dimension. The lessons that
would come from the astonishment, confusion,
misunderstanding, persecution as he puts it, would
be a result of the widening gap of those with mental
abilities and those who don't. We here at the Hades
Base News say bring it on.
Side two continues with the Omal's back
to cover a number of subjects. At the time of the
recording, I had one of my classes going and I hoped
a student of mine would benefit from a light and
sound device I had ordered which was designed to
help astral travel. He also explains how the various
groups of the Galactic Federation interact in that
one group may be just the thing for some humans to
learn from while another may appeal to a different
group of humans. It's all to our benefit and growth
of consciousness. These were all part of a series of
questions I had broken into two parts. The rest of
part one consisted of getting answers to conspiracy
theories going around on the web and the forces of
night and day battling each other constantly. Both
sides required to keep pushing the individual to
improve no matter the dimension. If all is peaceful
and harmonious, what's the point of advancing on
from that? Part two of my questions concerns time
travel, parallel universes and hopping between
dimensions. He explains how you can't move items
backwards in time without causing paradoxes but that
you can move forward in time with the right
technology. He uses the time Kiri was pregnant and
was able to speed up her delivery time by moving
between dimensions to a time ahead by way of the
fourth dimension to where she cannot exist in that
dimension. They also could travel faster than light
which would have an effect on time speeding up for
those making the trip. We move on to the shield they
had erected over my house at that time because of
the possibility of abduction and how it would have
been impenetrable had there been a threat but that
shield has long since been removed. Hopefully it
never had to be used and we'll never know one way or
the other if it had been needed. He had a Council
meeting to attend where the heads of various bases
had gathered for their annual meeting which took
place every ten years. I had to attend one once in
my astral form and it is intimidating to be in the
presence of so many higher dimensional individuals
who each commanded many thousands of beings. He
leaves to join the others as the meeting's so Tia
comes on to get her time in. The first question is
on those who are able to be one with nature and the
animals that would fell comfortable around them. She
explains that there are such people that are able to
generate a feeling a love for all animals. We next
go over how one would become closer to a crystal to
help with learning. She suggests time spent with it
to feel its being. A question about a pyramid they
had over Tia, Mark and Kiri's apartment on the base
and the smaller one here in third dimension cues a
question that needs Kiri to answer. I take advantage
of her engineering knowledge to work on pyramid
upgrades and then discuss the sudden appearance of
Sananda and its effect on Tia when he showed up. We
finish up the tape sharing our impressions of a very
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
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(Kiri starts off a very special
Kiri: yeah, dude?
Russ: hi Kiri.
Russ: yo. How you doing darling?
Kiri: oh fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.
Kiri: yeah, me and big sis are going to be working
Russ: okay, sounds good.
Russ: got the crystal.
Kiri: good, good, good, good, good. So, first of
all, let's get any questions you might have for me
out of the way.
Russ: okay, in that case I'll need the use of your
eyes. Thank you. Okay....
Kiri: no guests tonight?
Russ: I'm sorry? Okay, I'm going to show you a
couple pictures here.
Kiri: oh, is it naked ladies?
Russ: haven't you seen enough naked ladies in your
Russ: I have to agree.
Kiri: yeah, that's one up on me dude. She's going to
be back tomorrow.
Russ: cool. Okay, two things. First, is called a
healing rod or a power rod........
Russ: for all practical purpose, this is the
finished product here.
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. It's better to have it this way
up. Now what's this?
Russ: that is the process of making it.
Kiri: no, this part.
Russ: same thing as this only with two crystals
instead of a cap.
Kiri: okay, but this is all bound up together.
Kiri: so, what's.....
Russ: in other words, this would be with one crystal
and a cap with leather thongs........
Kiri: so this is a crystal here, right?
Russ: no, that's a copper tube.
Kiri: copper tube, okay.
Russ: oh, what's it say here? Quartz crystal, copper
Kiri: which one's that?
Russ: copper, that's the tube here.
Russ: B, B would be the copper tube....
Russ: A would the crystal, D would be the cap, C
would be the wrapping of it.
Russ: this is the final prototype when you're done.
Russ: okay. Number two is the finished product. This
is how it goes together. Leather strap, silver disc
and a crystal. There's the finished product.
Russ: that is a crystal headband.
Kiri: for what function?
Russ: to wrap around your head.
Kiri: to do what?
Russ: to enhance psychic communication.
Kiri: ahh, telepathy.
Russ: okay now then, according to the book, the
power rod operates on the principle that subatomic
particles are gathered within the copper tube.......
Russ: and thought process pushes them out through
the crystal into a controlled beam. It's what's
called a psionic projector.
Russ: your thoughts on the engineering of such a
thing being as there are no moving parts.
Kiri: engineering, very simple, very primitive, very
Russ: how so?
Kiri: how so?
Russ: well first do I understand, third part?
Kiri: very useful?
Russ: first off, does it work the way it says it
Kiri: it depends on what sort of crystal you're
going to use.
Russ: okay, let's start with that.
Kiri: okay, if you use an energy crystal, it's good
for energy supply and direction.
Kiri: if you use a farsighting crystal, one that
hasn't been shaped to the perfect shape, which is
more this shape, right? You can use it as a
directional beacon to fire and then you ride down
Kiri: okay? But you have to be quick. You have to be
able to point it in a direction, fire, go into the
astral travel mode like in five seconds and chase
after it which you expel a lot of energy to catch up
with it but once you catch up with it you hold onto
it until it burns up its energy.
Kiri: and then by that time you should have
recovered enough to use your own energy.
Russ: sort of like a booster rocket?
Kiri: another thing that you can do is use it as a
healing crystal, put a healing crystal in there and
direct the energy from the healing crystal.
Russ: okay, so three very obvious ways to possibly
Kiri: uh-huh and the same with manifesting. If you
remember, when we had you zapping things using the
big energy crystal there....
Kiri: was it the big energy crystal.....?
Russ: yes, sure it is.
Kiri: yeah, had you feed back by accident, told you
not to follow it too tightly?
Kiri: uh-huh. You could use it for manifestation
with a manifesting crystal. Can't use it with a
information crystal because you're draining the
information. If you were to do it with gold, it
would have a higher resonance.
Russ: uh-huh. Well I lost the chapter in this book
that tells why the subatomic particles are captured
in the first place in the copper tube. I assume this
is just basic cosmic rays that we're talking about
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: why would they be captured in a copper tube?
Kiri: because the crystals hold them in place. They
will drift out the sides but, as they travel
Kiri: you see? As long as you keep it pointing
north, right? It will travel backwards and forwards,
bouncing from one to the other. From one crystal to
the other crystal.
Russ: uh-huh. What if you just put a copper cap at
the end like the one it describes?
Kiri: well, any cosmic rays that are coming in from
the direction that you're holding it......let's say
you're holding it this way and they're coming from
the bottom, right?
Kiri: would be focused down into......in a way you
could say that they're captured but they bounce
backwards and forwards but they wouldn't because
crystals wouldn't hold them in place. It would just
be drifting through and be focused down by the
Russ: okay, very good darling.
Russ: now, I assume that the use of this as far as
how good it is depends on how good the sender is?
Russ: okay and how controlled and focused it is. So
this would be more potent than just a regular
crystal by itself?
Russ: okay, and it's described as Atlantean
Russ: I'll go with that just because I don't have a
better term for it.
Kiri: okay. And you know that I can't confirm or
Russ: and I'm not going to get you into trouble.
Kiri: uh-huh, especially not tonight.
Russ: now, in regards to the crystal headband.....
Russ: same principle applies except for the fact
there is no copper tube to capture anything....
Russ: why would the silver disc next to your third
eye in front or behind a crystal......?
Kiri: silver disc? I don't know why, just a regular
crystal would work fine on someone. Silver disc?
Maybe for looks, maybe for reflecting energy from
Russ: what about a copper disc?
Kiri: no, it needs to be a clear surface in this
case if it's being used as a reflector to focus on
Russ: so what would suggest is best, just a plain
Kiri: plain crystal on the side. If you want the
looks and using it like a radar dish, radio dish.
Russ: hmm, okay. Now in keeping a crystal next to
Russ: you can generally be able to work with
amplifying your own energy field.
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: so this would work in the same fact that you
now have it next to your third eye, it's
amplifying those third eye emanations.
Kiri: yeah. Oh, that's where that crystal is.
Russ: which one?
Kiri: Mark's other crystal, the one that he's
cleaning or powering up in theory.
Russ: okay, all right. What about being able to
communicate on a worldwide level with a crystal
Kiri: you'd have to communicate with people
similarly armed or with people that are of a higher
level and are more sensitive.
Russ: okay. Now the last question I have for you my
Russ: is with the power rod, if you were to focus it
toward a color TV with a live broadcast of something
Kiri: no, that wouldn't work. Focusing it on
somebody like your president to energize him, no.
Because that is being received, not transmitted.
Russ: okay, well according to the book.......I'll
put it this way, it says particles ride down the
carrier wave, the microwave radiation in UHF
Russ: and that way you can send the particles down
that feed, up to the satellite and back down.
Kiri: yeah, and the person that's there receiving or
filming or picking up the sound from it gets a nasty
buzzing sensation in his ears and confusion.
Russ: so wherever the camera is pointed would not
Kiri: no, not necessarily because you see what
happens is, you're taking a picture, right?
Kiri: it comes into the camera.
Kiri: it goes through all the computer and all the
internal mechanism and is sent to the transmitter.
At that point it becomes a VHF, UHF....
Russ: sent up to the satellite then.
Kiri: TNT, whatever, becomes that frequency.
Kiri: yeah, Omal started me off on that last week.
It's his ESPN nonsense?
Russ: okay, because I was going to try it tomorrow
with the O.J. Simpson trial. See if I can get
someone to scratch their nose.
Kiri: in a hot, stuffy room with lots of smelly
people that are sweating, I think it would be pretty
easy to get someone to scratch their nose like that.
Russ: that's why I think it would be fun to try.
Kiri: get OJ.
Kiri: orange juice.
Russ: all right, well if it works you'll be the
first one to know because Karra will tell you.
Russ: okay, well that was my last question I
promised and I'm going to hold to that promise.
Kiri: you can get away with it with me but not with
Omal. Okay, just in case. And when that's finished,
we'll pick him up again.
Kiri: okay, going for a mind link.
and Kiri now work together in sharing Mark's body)
Karra: fuzzy around the edges beanpole but apart
from that it's a good link.
Russ: good, excellent. Hi darling, because you're
cute and beautiful at the same time.
Karra: thank you.
Russ: I don't know how you do it.
Karra: what surprised me about tonight was that Tia
was feeding the Cubs and she wasn't participating.
Do you know he beat me bare brained?
Russ: yeah well, tough questions.
Karra: big healing crystal please.
Russ: all right, right arm is broken?
Karra: why can't tell all that without getting in
closer because the monitor just gives the energy and
the auras and everything so we're going to have to
probably get in and feel it. Now, I've got to get
this relayed through Kiri as Kiri has more feel so
there's going to be a little bit of a time delay.
Now nobody's told me what he did.
Russ: kicked this chair here in front of me.
Karra: what did he do that for?
Russ: he wasn't paying attention.
Karra: well, Kiri's whispering something about
communication devices being needed to be answered.
Karra: well it's definitely swollen. Nice shade of
color. I think it might be advisable to get one of
your earth doctors to bind it up.
Russ: he's going to go at lunch tomorrow.
Karra: I wouldn't say that it's broken, it's more
compressed. Without getting closer I can't really
Russ: I think he just did it to practice our healing
Karra: somebody else probably did it for him. No, I
should say it's more compressed. It's a possible
break, it's hard to tell on the monitor. Possible,
okay let's see what we can do for it. Right, Dr.
Russell. Okay, now I'm not going to direct you, I'm
going to see if......and I want you to tell me out
loud what you're going to do.
Russ: okay. First off, I'm going to go ahead and
direct the laser scalpel....
Russ: into the broken area. But while I'm doing
that, I'm going to be directing energy into it and
pulling energy up from the main healing crystal to
connect where I'm at to work on that from two
directions at once.
Karra: okay, that sounds good.
Russ: thank you. That's a lot coming from you.
Karra: yes, it is a little amusing. Okay, go ahead.
Karra: seems like the natives are restless tonight.
Russ: it's Joey?
Karra: no, the natives, they're beating their drums
(Karra begins to hum "Greensleeves")
Karra: okay, you've been trying to make your own
energy focusing stand, haven't you?
Russ: well of course.
Karra: like the one we've got in our apartment.
Russ: well, we can't have you be having the only one
Karra: take out that crystal and put this one
Karra: and sound it.
Karra: and put your hands on either side like this,
feel the energy.
(Kara rings the Tibetan bowl with Kiri's help)
Karra: much more potent energy isn't it?
Russ: I'll refrain from using profanity at this
Karra: I think you came very close to it.
Russ: well yes actually. One more time.
Karra: no, hit it harder.
(Russ hits the Tibetan bowl)
Karra: see, it goes on a lot longer if you hit it
harder. A lot more potent energy wise. That's the
one that you should've had in there, not the energy
Russ: oh, man.
Karra: feeling a little bit giddy are we?
Russ: right back on the old jaw bone there, popped
Karra: okay now, do you have questions for me?
Russ: well first off, is he going to have to take
this in to get it worked on?
Karra: it might advisable.
Karra: it's more of a compression than a break.
Russ: okay, how did you do that?
Karra: does that feel a little bit better? I'm not
going to take all of it away because it is a
reminder on how potent the energy is. It's a
Russ: oh. Why does it work on your head like that
Karra: because of the cavities. How many times have
I got to tell you about the cavities dear?
Russ: well, the big cavity between my ears.
Karra: you're too hard on yourself sometimes.
Russ: sometimes I have to be so I can keep myself in
focus and not get to overheaded.
(Kiri breaks in to the conversation)
Kiri: focus dude, God.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: coolness, ride the wave, curl.
Russ: I wish I could, I miss it. Okay my dear, now
Karra: don't you enjoy it when we do that?
Russ: of course I do.
Russ: how can you......
Karra: uh-huh, get two people in the same time in
this body? We don't. We're just curled up in the
energy field up here.
Russ: ohhh, how cute. I wish I could get a disc of
Karra: pity you can't get smells as well.
Russ: okay, how can you help differentiate the fact
that a great healer can also be a great warrior?
Karra: opposites and equals, the yang and the yin.
Russ: uh-huh. Well, it seems like though it's
a......what's the word? It's not supposed to work
Karra: but it does.
Russ: okay, because it would seem like being able to
fight is the opposite of being able to heal.
Russ: and so it would seem like one would stop the
other. It's like you either have one or the other.
Karra: sometimes there's a dysfunction
that.......it's like some doctors on your planet,
they love surgery and they like the sight of blood.
It's the same with some healers, they love their job
and sometimes they feel out of place when they
haven't got anything to do so they go out and make
their own healing capabilities or healing work.
Karra: like someone else I know.
Russ: okay so, for myself, would it be advisable to
also learn more things that would help protect
myself and others?
Karra: what is.........let me put it this way,
supposing we.......how many is there? There will be
one, three, four, five.......supposing our little
family, all seven of us came down here, right?
Karra: and we got into a situation where there was a
Karra: and what's important? To defend the children.
Karra: but what use would you be if you don't know
how to defend? It's no good going in there with all
that aggression to beat hell out of people to defend
us if you don't know how to use it.
Karra: that's why I joined up. That's why I was a
soldier, although admittedly a medic.
Russ: I wouldn't want to arm wrestle you.
Karra: you'd beat me.
Russ: no I wouldn't, you'd slaughter me probably.
Karra: it's all in the wrist my dear.
Russ: I know, that's why you'd slaughter me, you've
got longer arms than I do.
Russ: okay. Now one thing I was discussing with Kiri
the particle rod or the power rod thing.
Russ: if you had two, one for healing, one for
Russ: you could effectively take one with you where
you needed to go and use that as a.....
(Kiri breaks in again)
Kiri: yeah, make a small portable one.
Kiri: good idea huh, dude.
Russ: right duddette.
Kiri: I was about to say, get the gender right,
otherwise she's going come down there and belt you
one of these days. Or when you come up she's going
to break things of you.
Russ: just so she can put them back together.
Karra: I'd have to put them back together.
Russ: okay, now then, I'd like to discuss a little
bit about radiation.
Russ: and I'm not talking about the radiation that
is harmful to you, but the radiation that is given
off by each living person.
Russ: I guess we would call it life force.
Russ: okay? And being able to determine that life
Karra: you may want to bring that up higher.
Russ: okay? And being sensitive enough to be able to
train to feel the life force for that radiation.
Russ: so that you can interact with others and know
how to use the right kind of radiation when working
Karra: well, when people give off energies
concerning their moods.....
Karra: oh thank you, thank you sweetie pie. You take
care of me, don't you?
Russ: I try.
Karra: oh by the way, we've got usage of the pyramid
when we need it.
Kiri: no you don't, not this week.
Karra: okay, it will have to be next week.
Karra: okay, where was I? Oh yes. Now, when people
are giving off negative energy.....
Karra: negative radiation, when they're in a
Karra: you can feel it and you know how to interact
to change that mood, do you not?
Russ: yeah, right.
Karra: when somebody's giving off depressed energy,
that they are feeling down, miserable......again,
you can interact with that and the same with happy
energy and aggressive energy and uninterested
energy. I'm just saying energies as a catchall.
Karra: so that you know how to interact.
Russ: absolutely. Good, and then that way you can be
able to work with it in whatever way you need. And
using the power rods as I was mentioning, you are
affecting that radiation being given off by that
Karra: two. Sorry, yes.
Russ: yeah, right. Okay good.
Karra: I had somebody's finger in my ear.
Russ: sounds like fun.
Karra: anyway she's got to behave herself.
Russ: uh-huh. A lovely birth by the way.
Karra: hmm, I thought so.
Russ: she looked so cute.
Karra: when she has more, it will be easier for her.
Russ: well one thing I've noticed is that I have a
connection to Miranda, it's closer to yours than it
is to Alana's.
Karra: because it's your first daughter.
Russ: yeah, but I don't have that with Michael and
Karra: but they're not daughters. You still think
very third dimensionally about daughters.
Russ: you mean females being more sensitive?
Russ: well that's probably just a hangover from
being in third dimension.
Karra: yeah. I wouldn't worry too much about it.....
Karra: it's good. Actually, it's not only a third
dimensional behavior, its sixth too.
Russ: sixth? Okay.
Karra: because I've got to confess that dad
sometimes spoils me a little bit. I'm his little
girl even though I'm about an inch taller than he
is, I'm still his little girl.
Russ: that's understandable.
Russ: okay so yes, last night with the fireworks in
other words. I was seeing more Miranda's mind than I
was yours almost.
Karra: she's a curious little individual.
Russ: right, and that's what amazed me so much is
Karra: well it's all new to her. You remember how
our terrible twosome were so interested in
everything their first 48 hours out of the womb and
then it dropped off, didn't they?
Karra: as they started to learn how to manipulate
and control their various bodily movements and
functions to maximum effect.
Karra: Miranda will do the same.
Russ: I think she'll do it a little bit longer than
48 hours though.
Karra: hmm, maybe.
Russ: okay and the last question I've got is in this
healing with the LS device coming up....
Russ: and working with that to increase my healing
Russ: we need to work on a tape of some kind or
another the start this off.
Karra: no problem, no problem at all. We'll do the
same night. We'll do an astral travel one....
Karra: on one side and on the other side a healing
Russ: all right, perfect.
Karra: thirty minutes tapes might be advisable.
Russ: I should have some around here.
Russ: okay, great. Thank you darling. If I can, I'll
try to get up there, I got late night ahead of me
Karra: yes I know.
Russ: see you in a little while.
Karra: I'll be watching.
Russ: okay, if I do, I'll probably catch you when
Karra: ohh I'll be asleep in bed.
Russ: pretending to sleep no doubt. Okay, I'll
pretend to wake you up.
Karra: I think I might build a pyramid over the bed.
We'll have to probably have to sleep in another room
Russ until I get it worked out.
Karra: nevermind, let me work on it.
Russ: okay, fair enough. Have fun, see you.
(Kiri breaks in one last time)
Kiri: me too dude.
Russ: okay darling.
(Tia returns to bring on a surprise guest)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: how you doing love?
Tia: fine, fine.
Russ: good, good, good, good, good.
Tia: I'm going to put myself on last for information
Tia: uh-huh, because I think you're going to enjoy
Russ: oh good.
Tia: see you later dude, have a fun one.
Russ: bye love. I'll do my best.
(Sananda comes on to asks me
Sananda: good evening Russell.
Russ: good evening Omal......I take it? No?
Sananda: let us proceed.
Sananda: okay, I have some questions for you.
Russ: all right, fire away.
Sananda: how do you see your capabilities involved
in your modern society of your dimension?
Russ: I see them as an extension of Ashtar Command
actually. As my abilities get more refined as also
with Mark's, I see the interaction that I have with
my fellow humans help them to increase that
consciousness around me and hopefully it will spread
out exponentially from that.
Sananda: and how does this interact with Ashtar
Russ: well due to the fact that the training I'm
getting is directly from Ashtar Command. I'm
basically working from that base of knowledge and so
anything that I work on from here on out will be an
extension of that.
Sananda: okay. How would you personally best use the
healing capability that you have? What function
would you prefer to use it for?
Russ: hmm, actually two ways when you think about
it. I would probably say in the first part in
training, teaching, trying to help others learn what
I've learned and let them take it from there and let
them spread the word also. And the other way in my
personal healing, working with people who come to me
who want to be healed so that when they're healed,
they'll be because they know I'm using my own
energies and other tools around me instead of having
to go to a doctor. I think that will help out their
mindset and those that they come in contact with.
Sananda: okay, now here is an interesting question
Sananda: you have a patient, you are a doctor, you
do not have to worry about your silly laws. What
would be more important, saving an arm or a leg?
Russ: if I had a choice between the arm or leg? I
would save the leg or I mean I would save the arm.
Sananda: you do not sound sure.
Russ: no, because we have a wheelchair and they can
get around in a wheelchair but as with an arm, well
that's a tough one. No, I think I'll change that.
I'd say save the leg because an arm, you can do
everything that you want with one arm but you can't
walk around with one leg.
Sananda: okay, now, here is an even harder question.
Sananda: you are aboard your recon vessel.
Sananda: you have a crew of five under you, you are
the captain. Your chief engineer is Marta. You have
an engine problem that only one person with the
knowledge can fix but, there is a radiation leak.
What would you do?
Russ: I would send the person with the knowledge in
to fix it. Because the lives of the many are worth
far more than the lives of the one.
Sananda: okay. Last question.
Sananda: where would you like to work?
Russ: you mean right now, as in my present third
Sananda: no, where would you like to work?
Russ: I would love to work on fifth dimension, work
on Hades Base.
Sananda: okay, thank you.
Russ: my pleasure.
(Tia gets us over to Omal now)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: whew, okay.
Russ: Mark doesn't seem too worse the wear for that.
Russ: Mark doesn't seem to worse for wear for that.
Tia: what do you mean?
Russ: energy wise....
Russ: take anything out of him?
Tia: no more than would be expected.
Russ: okay, that's good. Okay.
Tia: enjoy yourself?
Russ: oh yes.
Tia: uh-huh, I almost peed my panties.
Russ: you would.
Tia: he just walked in.
Russ: ahhh, I can only guess at who that was but I
have a pretty good guess.
Tia: okay, let me hand you over to the next person.
Russ: all right.
(Omal takes us to the ens the
side of the tape)
Omal: how are you functioning?
(Russ laughs pretty hard at that)
Russ: doing very well actually.
Omal: okay, you have questions for me I understand.
Russ: yes, I've got quite a few questions as a
matter of fact we missed ourselves the last time.
Russ: I'm going to a two-parter due to the fact that
I'll go from the stuff that I had and then go to
stuff that I have.
Russ: that was a tough last question too.
Russ: because I wanted to say earth but given a
choice, I'd rather be on Hades Base. Because there's
not enough problems on earth right now to leave.
Omal: okay let's have your guess on who you thought
you were talking to.
Russ: because Ashtar would have said good evening
Russ: Sananda would have said good evening Russ.
Russ: Russell, right. And Korton and you would
not.......well you would've said it like that.
That's why I said Omal at first.
Russ: but when he started asking questions it's easy
to tell who it is, you don't ask questions.
Omal: not very often, no.
Russ: not very often, no. Well good, I'm finally
glad to meet the gentleman.
Russ: get a little bit of knowledge. Okay,
questions, here we go.
Russ: okay. Now, this is a two-parter right here.
With the year 2000 approaching, all right? The gulf
is widening between operants and non-operants.
Russ: now is persecution a high probability......?
Russ: it is. Okay, because I was assuming that
possibly the government or the National Enquirer
made that kind of unlikely due to the disbelief
factor in there.
Omal: no, when it becomes accepted that there is.
First of all, it will follow these simple patterns.
Four, astonishment, confusion, misunderstanding,
Russ: okay. Now the second part of this, is the
psychic friends network and the influx of
metaphysical magazines has brought consciousness
changes and so the key to keeping the persecution
from happening hopefully is acceptance and letting
people see that you can be normal and psychic?
Omal: what do the average person think? Let me
rephrase that, it was terrible grammar. What does
the average person think about the psychic friends
Russ: it's kind of a joke?
Omal: yes. It is advertised as for entertainment
Russ: right. But in my personal view, it seems like
it's a doorway at least....
Omal: to some.
Russ: where there was none before.
Omal: Karra, was commenting about the natives is
quite correct, they are restless tonight.
Russ: I can't even hear it. Well Mark's hearing is
more sensitive than mine is.
Omal: yes, and we are hearing through amplified.
Russ: that would make a difference. Okay, now, is
there a way to shunt off the persecution factor in
Omal: the more you delay it, the longer it will take
Russ: okay and do we have a estimated timeline for
all this to happen?
Omal: no, not yet.
Omal: as you might say, the votes are still out.
Russ: okay. Now, I'm doing a little research lately
on the various space missions that have gone up to
the moon and in Apollo 12, we wanted to follow the
moon landing, a thunderbolt hit the spacecraft and
put out bunch of power systems they had to reroute
and click back on one by one.
Russ: prior to that they had seen a couple of
Russ: and it's assumed that possibly the thunderbolt
came from the spaceships. If that is true, since I
won't ask for confirmation, why would anybody take a
hostile view to another moon landing?
Omal: if I answer this question, it will be
Russ: oh, you can't theoretically answer it.
Russ: okay, nevermind.
Omal: because whatever I say will be taken.....
(Omal gets right back on
Omal: ......I say, will be taken as possibly the
correct answer even though it is theorized.
Russ: I see. All right, we'll skip that one then.
Omal: one does have to behave oneself when one's
boss is around.
Russ: one's boss' boss. Understandable, all right.
Well we'll go ahead and we'll cut off that pattern
for a while and go to something completely
different. Now, you recall Michael of course?
Russ: okay. Now, being as that's such, do you
think that he has a chance of benefiting from the
LS device that's going to be arriving and if so,
how to present it so that he gets the most benefit
Omal: hmm, that's a tricky one. A mind that wants
to be open but is shut and will not be shut until
it is proven hard and fast facts. Somebody that
quests and is prepared to offer anything but yet
will not give anything. That is hard, hard to
answer. Yes he would benefit from it if he would
open his mind.
Russ: would it help if Mary Jo learned how to use
it first so that he found then a reason to why he
would want to benefit from it?
Omal: possibly, possibly. It is necessary to
pursue many avenues before coming to the correct
one. Don't I sound like a poet?
Russ: yes you do. Well I'll try to present it to
him in a technical sense if I get that chance.
Russ: he might be more responsive to a technical
view of it. All right, here's one we'll see if we
can back a little bit to where we were before but
hopefully not in the same vein. The Pleiadian
Russ: okay, now there is many points of view that
the groups that are coming from the Pleiadians are
of a friendly nature.
Russ: are they connected with Ashtar Command?
Omal: they are connected with Ashtar Command in
the way that the Arcturians are connected with
Russ: I see.
Omal: as we are connected with other groups. We
work in conjunction. It is a little bit like your
group of nations that work together. Sometimes we
disagree, sometimes we have different goals. But
we are not an organized group such as your state
of nations. We are each independent groups with
our own specific goals that we wish to achieve.
Russ: does sound like our nations whole thing.
Omal: the fact that we get together and try not to
tread on each other's toes and try to second-guess
each other is a complement to the evolving species
that have joined us and that we have joined. We do
have individuals from many different planets and
solar systems that work independently between the
various groups. It is necessary for them to work
independently for the fact of their learning
ability. That maybe the Pleiadians are better
suited for one individual as we are better suited
for another individual because we have different
goals. Although there are goals that overlap, we
try to work together but we do not exchange
information unless it is vital to the other groups
that are involved and vice a versa.
Russ: that's always a good way to do it then. Well
thought up. Okay, there is such a thing as a laser
but now what would be the theoretical existence of
what's called a mazer?
Omal: a mazer, I do not understand the word.
Russ: me either. It's something that came up in a
book that I'm reading and I've never heard it
Omal: is it a fictional book?
Russ: no, well it's the same one I was talking to
Kiri about, about the power rods from Atlantis and
Omal: hmm, perhaps it originally had a different
name. What does it look like?
Russ: it doesn't say. It just says the advent of
lasers and masers in U.S. arsenals.
Omal: maybe it has an A in front of it?
Russ: well, I have to admit that laser is short
Russ: so mazer could possibly be matter or......
Omal: it is possible that it is some sort of
Russ: or magnetic.
Omal: or particle.
Russ: particle then, that's possible too.
Russ: matter would then be particle.
Russ: okay, I'll work on that later. All right
now, the questions on adversarial ELF beams, extra
Russ: could it conceivably trigger the San Andreas
Omal: it depends on the resonance that is
Omal: you would have to penetrate deep to the
weakest point where the most tension is. You
couldn't trigger it in one point because there
would be not enough pressure for it to be used
with a minimal amount of energy.
Russ: I see. Well it said that such a beam was
deflected and the deflection caused it to set off
the Mount Saint Helen's eruption. Now it's hard
for me to picture this but if it was the right
frequency I suppose there is a theoretical
probability of such.
Omal: yes, but it would have to be in an area
where there is seismic activity or lack of
activity. Where there is a buildup in pressure
underneath the crust of the planet where there is
a buildup of magna. You see, all these things
would have to be together for the ELF waves to
have their desired effect.
Russ: so theoretically that could happen if all
the conditions were right.
Omal: were right.
Russ: but the odds of it are low.
Russ: I see. Okay, that's something to think
about. All right and could there be an ultra
consciousness or guardian working to achieve peace
on this earth?
Omal: yes, it is very likely and probable.
Russ: oh, we're talking about Sananda.........on a
theoretical basis of course.
Omal: no, something else that I have in mind.
Russ: oh, what's that?
Omal: a group consciousness.....
Omal: that has its own free will that desires
peace and harmony. But, there is the other side to
Russ: the opposite end of the coin.
Russ: so the two working would be like night and
Omal: uh-huh, you cannot have one without the
Russ: why not? I mean balance obviously but....
Russ: it would seem it's pointless then to even
have one if you have to have the other.
Omal: well the way that it works is that the group
consciousness desires peace, harmony.
Omal: and the group consciousness also doesn't
want harmony, it wants chaos and confusion. The
reason being, if you have peace and harmony, where
do you go?
Russ: sixth dimension.
Omal: no, you go nowhere. You do not learn.
Everything is given to you, everything is peaceful
and relaxed, there is no drive.
Russ: sounds great.
Omal: it is stagnant.
Russ: but man always wants to improve himself.
Omal: exactly, that is the other side.
Russ: oh, the drive.
Omal: the drive.
Russ: and that can't be peaceful and harmonious?
Omal: if it's peaceful and harmonious, what is the
point of trying to achieve for better?
Russ: oh, I see. Because you've already got it,
what's the point of going further?
Russ: you reached nirvana, heaven....
Omal: or that you see it as that.
Russ: right. That's deep.
Omal: you cannot have one without the other.
Russ: that's really deep.
Omal: so by having these two forces, call them
night and day, right? The struggle between them,
the friction that is generated creates the drive
to improve, to stop one, to help the other.
Russ: so it's two actions.
Omal: yes, it is necessary.
Russ: that's the way of everything, even up on
Russ: and further.
Omal: and higher.
Russ: all right. Okay, now before we get to part
two, how much time do you have?
Omal: how much time do you need?
Russ: I'm on to part two and part two is longer
than part one.
Omal: how much recording time do you have?
Russ: I've got six tapes sitting up there if I had
to go to six tapes I could.
Omal: I do not know if the body could take it.
Russ: I don't think so either.
Omal: or our last speaker has the patience.
Russ: is he still there?
Omal: but we do have a Council meeting that I am
due to attend in about 25 of your minutes.
Russ: okay, well it will take less time than that.
Omar okay. Let's say, do you have 15 minutes of
Omal: okay, I have to attend a meeting with other
base commanders. We are hosting, you might call it
an annual meeting although it is every ten years.
Russ: oh, that's kind of nice. All right, now
first off, in something I was mentioning to Mark
the other day is that if you had an alien race and
you wanted to place the perfect operative on
Omal: yes, breed them into the planet.
Russ: breed them into the planet so they would
have citizenship and a language and all that....
Russ: and will work at whatever you need them to
do even unconsciously. What a perfect way to do
it. It's and so hard to get out of Ashtar Command.
Omal: we have stated that before.
Russ: indeed you have. Okay, I just thought it was
funny it came up that way in this book I was
reading. Okay, onto part two. First off, what
subatomic particles are cosmic rays composed of?
Omal: energy from other stars and I believe we
discussed this a while back actually.
Russ: but we didn't break it down to particles as
far as......I mean we have electrons and things
like that but do we go deeper than that?
Omal: it is not worth discussing the lower levels
but it is atoms and particles from many things.
Omal: supernovas that have exploded and the energy
expelled by them, starships that have blown up,
decaying stars that are falling to pieces because
their gravitational field is no longer strong
enough to hold them together, many, many things.
Russ: okay, so none of which would really come
into being as far as......actually they would but
I'll get into it after I take care of building a
Russ: we can start looking at it from a more
practical point of view as far as the results of
such a thing.
Russ: okay, now, can you confirm whether subatomic
particles can move backwards and forwards in time?
Omal: they can move forward in time as you move
forward in time.
Russ: they can't go backwards?
Omal: you see, to travel backwards in time, what
would be necessary is to take that let's say atom
out of circulation, travel it backwards in time
and reinsert it. There's a slight problem here.
Omal: if you take an atom let's say that is
Omal: and you take it back a thousand years.
Omal: and you reinsert it into time, what happens?
Russ: you have one more atom than you're supposed
to have for that particular time.
Omal: which can't occur.
Russ: right. Because all matter from that thousand
years ago is still here in this thousand years
Russ: you couldn't increase the matter without
causing a chain reaction.
Omal: correct. So what you would have to do is
take one particle from a thousand years ago, one
atom from a thousand years ago, move it forward in
time to now, take one out and bring it down. You
can't do that.
Russ: what a waste.
Omal: you can't do that because the very atoms
that make up your traveling device.
Omal: so instead of having one atom, you have many
billions. Can't do it.
Russ: so in other words, so this answers the
second question which is, you couldn't be in two
places at the same time.
Omal: no, but there is an interesting little catch
Omal: you can travel backwards in time.
Russ: you can?
Omal: yes, to a different dimension......not
dimension, universe. A parallel universe.
Russ: because they wouldn't have the same
Russ: in that one as you would be inserting into
Russ: but that would only do you any good if you
wanted to see another dimension.
Omal: don't forget, some are so similar to yours
that there is no difference whatsoever except
maybe slight difference in pigmentation of skin.
Russ: that's true.
Omal: and that may be so unnoticeable that you
Russ: so it might handy so you could look at the
past and what happened...
Russ: but it might not be the past.
Russ: it might be slightly different.
Omal: it might the fact that Gen. Ulysses S. Grant
was not called Ulysses, is it Simpson? Well let's
say he was called Simpson.
Omal: Ulysses Simpson Grant may have been called
Ulysses Simon Grant.
Russ: oh I see.
Omal: or Simpson spelled differently.
Russ: which still could make a difference, it
wouldn't be a true, historical fact.
Omal: oh yes you would, it would be almost
identical apart from maybe a slight difference in
spellings of places like Gettysburg. It might be
Omal: so trivial.
Russ: it's very interesting though.
Omal: or Gettysburg might be four inches off from
where the center of the town is.
Russ: yeah, good point. Okay, now, there is such a
thing then as mental control of subatomic
Omal: no, not really.
Russ: so if I have a thought beam or a thought I
wished to project......
Russ: through let's say this power rod I was
discussing with Kiri.......
Russ: wouldn't I then be affecting the subatomic
Omal: no, you would just be borrowing their
Russ: oh. And so what would be powering my
thought? Those subatomic particles then.
Omal: yes, and you.
Russ: and me. Oh, so it would be my energy and
their's and it would be amplified?
Russ: I understand, thank you. Okay now, in a
related question to that, can you speed up or slow
down time, the results of it? Since time is
relative. In other words, for example.......if I
wish to let's say get a nickel, okay? Now, my
abilities to do so would be sped up if I had
better abilities? So I would get it in five
minutes, where if my abilities weren't that good,
I get it in five weeks kind of thing.
Omal: it is easy just speed up and slow down time
or appear to. You can be watching something on
your communication and entertainment devices,
right? And you do not notice that an hour has
Russ: yeah, definitely.
Omal: or, you could be watching something and
looking at your watch and going, "I wish this was
over. I wish I could get up out of this theater
and attend to my customers that will be wanting to
go into the next performance".
Russ: absolutely. So it's all relative to your
perception of time?
Russ: time does not speed up or slow down.
Omal: I must give credit where credit's due to
Russ: yes, she knows my mind very well. Okay, so
it's perception of time that would speed up or
Omal: yes, uh-huh.
Russ: I see. Time actually doesn't speed up or
Omal: no, time is not a constant. It can be bent,
it can be slowed and sped up but by artificial
means or natural means.
Russ: well I mean just because I'm watching this
movie and I'm bored and time seems to be going
Omal: that is your perception.
Russ: someone else in the theater who's loving the
Russ: time is flying by for them.
Russ: but we're all experiencing the same time.
Omal: correct. But time is not linear.
Russ: it's not?
Omal: no. There are several ways to speed up time.
Omal: and that is using gravitational masses.
Russ: oh, so that's beyond our control now?
Russ: I see. But it's possible in our future.
Russ: okay. Next question is, did you and
ourselves and everyone that I and you know create
most of the known universe?
Omal: hmmm, sorry, can't go into that.
Omal: because two things, it would be my opinion,
it would open it to discussion which would be
tinted with my emotions or your emotions. It would
be subjective from our point of view.
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: it would take up more time than I have.
Russ: that's a key question.
Omal: yes, save that one for a later time when we
can sit down and have a discussion on
probabilities and theorize.
Russ: alrighty, I'll be glad to. Okay, now then,
being......and I'm speaking here from
theoretically knowing how the Council sometimes
works and being as you are a part of the Council,
maybe you can answer this one. Now being as the
Council hates leaving jobs unfinished or half
Russ: I assume then I'm then helping to complete a
mission that was begun long ago?
Omal: yes. Time is irrelevant when you have all
the time that you need.
Russ: ahh, indeed. Again, we are stretching the
time and speeding up and slowing ourselves down.
Omal: yes, traveling forward in time is quite
Russ: how so?
Omal: you just travel faster than the speed of
light, space warps.
Russ: so that really is true then? It's not
fictional or science-fiction?
Omal: no, no. Going back to a incident over a year
ago where Kiri took a trip.
Omal: she used the jump between dimensions to gain
Russ: really? That goes back though to the
question of how to not go back in time, don't we
have the same problem going forward in time?
Russ: you're putting new mass....
Omal: you're taking them out of circulation. Take
Omal: and moving them forward. There is a period
of time where they do not exist.
Russ: so that mass doesn't exist already even
though it's in the future because it's uncreated
Russ: you can insert anything you want because
that mass is not there yet.
Omal: that is why Kiri couldn't go back to the
sixth dimension until after she'd given birth.
Russ: oh, I see, because she's already there.
Omal: correct. But now she can of course.
Russ: that's pretty funny though.
Omal: it's been about a year since she's been able
to travel backwards and forwards in that
Russ: that's a cute way of putting it.
Russ: okay now, in using clusters of crystals at
the compass points, will it enhance the current
shield around our house if it's still there? Or
should they be set to the points of the period?
Omal: I wouldn't worry too much about the energy
field around your house.
Russ: okay, it doesn't need to be enhanced?
Russ: okay, I won't bother with that.
Omal: you can pass through it, radio waves can
pass through it but if we wanted, nothing could
pass through it.
Omal: and all's it would take would take is a
twist of the wrist.
Russ: but for other people, would this
theoretically working on your crystal shield....
Russ: for somebody's house who doesn't have the
benefit of ours?
Russ: it would help for them.
Omal: to a certain extent yes.
Russ: if they had the mind power to create it?
Omal: correct but it would only work whilst they
were in the premises.
Russ: well that might be enough for them.
Omal: uh-huh, a feeling of comfort.
Russ: uh-huh, okay.
Omal: why does Carrie need this?
Russ: well this is just theoretical for anybody
who might come across it, it's just for general
Russ: okay now, working with carrying the double
terminated crystal around, will that enhance my
Omal: if you believe that it will, it will supply
the energy. If you do not believe, then it will
Russ: oh, good point because thoughts are
empowering the crystal.
Russ: okay. Now, would nuclear or particle weapons
if used on earth set off a chain reaction between
us and other planets in our solar system and if so
Omal: only if there are hostile forces on those
Russ: oh, okay. According the book of course that
I read. Apparently if we use nuclear weapons and
we blew up our planet, it would cause a chain
reaction with each planet in the solar system
would just blow up.....
Russ: right down the line.
Omal: you would blow up your planet, the debris
stays in orbit on your planet in your....in your
Russ: so would become another basic asteroid belt?
Russ: for somebody else farther down the road to
figure out why there's a second asteroid belt out
there between Mars and Mercury.
Omal: uh-huh. Mars and Venus.
Russ: Mars and Venus, right. Okay, in fact I'll
make this my last question. Thoughts can trigger
subatomic particles to attract desired items like
a magnet, would this be similar to working with
Omal: no, not really. What happens with particles
as they pass magnets they get bent slightly.
Sometimes it is so minimal that it is only
recognizable after they have traveled a million
Russ: oh, I see.
Omal: and then it is only a fraction of a degree.
Russ: black hole or something out there.
Russ: I see.
Omal: gravitational masses do have that effect. It
depends on the size of the mass of the
Russ: oh I understand. So our basic thoughts can
be in that way but just depends on how you use
Russ: okay, great. Enjoy the Council meeting.
Omal: if you call that sort of thing fun, I will
Russ: I would, I would have a great time but I
never been to one except for that one.
Omal: live long, prosper and, hopefully I'll be
(Tia is back to get in her time
Tia: Karra told me not to do that.
Russ: good call, good call. How's the foot?
Tia: feels hot.
Russ: that could be good.
Tia: could be bad, nevermind.
Russ: it will get fixed tomorrow.
Russ: what a session.
Tia: I had to go and change.
Russ: wore me out. How's Mark's energy level?
Tia: actually, I should say it's probably down to
Russ: two more to go.
Tia: two more to go? Oh, yeah.
Russ: okay. Well my dear, working with animals and
Tia: oh, okay.
Russ: the new Atlantis, those who have the energy
within themselves to walk among nature, at peace
with all around them. Animals and insects like
birds that land on your shoulders and animals come
up to get nuzzled or something like this. Are
there such people on this earth?
Russ: how do you become such a person?
Tia: by generating the right smell. By being so
totally unconcerned with animals that it doesn't
matter. By being able to communicate with a
feeling of love for all animals. I don't see any
felines around here.
Russ: there are none but wait, there is one.
Tia: which one is that?
Russ: we got Oddball under the chair over there.
Tia: ohhh, negative, negative cat, I'm going to
pounce on you pussycat.
Russ: now, in training to do this, you have to
have the right mindframe.
Russ: and to achieve the right mindframe, does it
take years of practice.....?
Russ: it does take years of practice.
Tia: years and years and years and years and years
Russ: and fears. Best to start with just your
regular cats and animals around you that you're
more comfortable with.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: okay, it's not a matter of coercion, it's
just a matter of energy.
Tia: coercion does help I suppose but I don't know
because I don't have any coercion.
Russ: I don't know about that.
Tia: it's because I'm strong-willed. And besides,
they don't have coercive capabilities, well not
worth mentioning anyway. What they've got they've
inherited from Mark. We have used that as a threat
of punishment, split them up, they hate it. They
behave themselves afterwards.
(Mark and Tia's triplets)
Russ: well that's good. Hey by the way, any
projections have you heard from on the genetic
base now that Miranda's been added to our little
Tia: I haven't been informed yet. Besides, she's
too young to have kittens.
Russ: well so is yours.
Tia: yeah I know.
Russ: well, doesn't mean it's not a future
Tia: all down many, many probabilities. The
future's always in motion.
Russ: true. How can I become more sensitive to the
energy emanations of crystals?
Tia: hmmm, open your mind, feel one. Pick one up,
be its buddy.
Russ: grab one here?
Tia: smile at it. Feel its energy, feel its light,
feel its being, feel how it warms your hand. Feel
its sides, get to know it.
Russ: how do you get inside of it?
Tia: you don't want to because they don't
appear........they appear as they want to appear
if you're inside them. Or so I've been told.
Russ: okay, well that's all I have for questions
so we can talk about general junk.
Tia: okay. What do you want to talk about?
Russ: okay, let's see now. What have you been
doing lately, you hunting?
Tia: no, I haven't had time. Don't forget, I had a
tribe of kittens and cubs over at my place.
Russ: that's true.
Tia: running amok, breaking one of my vases.
Russ: how come your girls couldn't PK it out of
the way or something?
Tia: because the girls were outside pulling the
wings off of a butterfly.
Russ: oh please, you trained them well I guess.
Tia: it was all right, Alex just came out and
manifested the wings back on.
Russ: I like the boxing glove incident.
Tia: uh-huh, he's going to be a little peacemaker
Russ: yeah, I think you're right.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah. But she was being very, how
would you call it? Miss I am, my idea.
Russ: well don't girls go through that stage.....
Tia: uh-huh. A little miss.
Russ: well, it's just part of growing up.
Tia: what did she say? "I'm big girl now". Well
she is the oldest.
Russ: yeah, she is the oldest, she wants to feel
like......look who are mom is.
Tia: yeah, what is it? She's 2 1/2 now I think.
Russ: yeah. All right darling, what you want to
talk about then? I'll leave it up to you since I
keep on hitting walls here.
Tia: I try hard not to but you keep on picking on
things that I can't discuss.
Russ: well that's why I'm trying to go through
Tia: okay, what we might have to do for your
astral travel tape.....
Tia: is break it up into sections instead of doing
it all all in one go.
Tia: do it over a period of time so that you get
it all nice, prim, proper step-by-step.
Russ: well you know that I'll be using it in
Tia: with other things, yes.
Russ: with other things. So I can use it on one
side, stop it.....
Russ: and go on to that same side later on and add
Tia: yeah, but when you're recording it, you'd
have to probably record the information I give
you, take it out, put it to one side, insert it
back in so that there isn't any gap. What might be
useful is background music too. Something like
Russ: oohhh, that's....
Tia: something nice and dreamlike and floaty.....
Russ: I'll use that great pyramid stuff.
Here: drifting off into the wild yonder.
Russ: that's a great idea, great pyramid flute
Tia: see, I'm a smart kitty.
Russ: no one would accuse you otherwise.
Russ: cool, good idea.
(One of Tia's cubs Athena says something in
Russ: that's all right love.
Tia: yeah, it's only Athena.
Tia: hold on, I gotta put her down before she
wriggles off and causes trouble and starts crying
and you have that in the recording instead of her
(Tia repeats what was said in Durondedunn)
Russ: that should be fun. How's our tape doing?
Russ: God, we still got a ton of tape. Why? I
don't know. That part took a long time with Omal.
Tia: well Kiri's still here, you got any questions
for Kiri? She's messing with the kittens, Cubs.
Russ: well I've got five minutes of tape left.
Tia: oh well.
What: I suppose we can save it for later or
Tia: nah, let's use it all up.
Russ: okay, sounds good.
Tia: you guys got a little garden area back at
(At Karra's apartment she was assigned as an
Tia: but it's open to the public isn't it?
Russ: if the public wanted to go back there, I
Tia: yeah, I was about to say, you could make a
pyramid and then you could fence it no, that would
be acceptable either would it?
Russ: what, put a pyramid like what you've got?
Russ: well, we could do it. We could put one
similar to what we've got here only in a different
Tia: uh-huh. Well ours is twice his size of this
(a six-foot pyramid that we had constructed over
the futon Mark's body was on)
Russ: well we could do it twice the size, the
trick is......I guess it doesn't have to be
Tia: no, ours is though. We have got a thing that
pulls up over the top of it.
Russ: now tell you what, can you relay a question
to Kiri for me?
Tia: I can do better than that, I can put her back
Russ: all right, toss her back in real quick.
(Kiri wraps up the
Russ: hi Kiri.
Russ: a question just came up that I just got
reminded of that I thought I could ask you.
Russ: remember the picture I showed you, that
energy rod, right?
Russ: what if you were actually to put one on the
crown of that pyramid facing up?
Kiri: it would look ugly. It's a bit like a
Russ: right. What would be the results of such
a.......I don't care about looks, results....
Kiri: it would be worth experimenting with.
Russ: so instead of capping it....
Russ: just go ahead and leave it uncapped....
Russ: and fasten it to the top so it pointed up
with the crystal pointed up to the top.
Kiri: yeah. You could make something a little bit
like a four pointed.....
Russ: okay, what if you were to pointed down
Kiri: it would be sending the energy down.
Russ: right. So the energy would go up the
Russ: collect at the point, go in through the
Kiri: well it depends what function you want to
use it for.
Russ: well that's the question. What would be the
results theoretically of such a thing pointed
Kiri: not as beneficial as pointing up.
Kiri: because pointing up you can use it for many
things. You can use it as a beacon, you can use it
to send energy out, you can use it in the astral
form, right? To go up, focus the energy to fire it
off and then to grab hold of that energy and
Russ: because it would be a constant stream.
Russ: you could fire it up like a booster rocket.
Kiri: uh-huh. Or if you're quick enough, you could
actually sit on top of it instead of holding onto
it. Which means that you wouldn't expel any energy
Russ: but the energy is constantly going.
Russ: all you could do is enter the stream, right?
Russ: and let the stream push you.
Kiri: uh-huh. But don't forget to put on your
leather hat and goggles and your oxygen mask.
(Both us get a bit silly at this point)
Russ: ready for takeoff, that's affirmative.
Kiri: sorry, I did not quite understand that.
Russ: you got your hand over your face.
Kiri: why are you making silly noises?
Russ: okay. So in a sense, keeping that cap as
removable instead of gluing it on might be a good
Russ: just for the purpose of testing stuff out to
see how it works.
Russ: that's fair.
Kiri: don't you think that was a fun little
Russ: that was a fun session. I especially like
the part where Sananda came in.
Kiri: yeah, he isn't as loud as Ashtar is. He's
much more peaceable and quiet.
Russ: well that's what kind of surprised me.
Kiri: and not as abrupt.
Russ: I was expecting somebody even more like
Ashtar. Instead, it sounded more like Omal.
Russ: maybe that's what happens when you get up to
that real high dimensions.
Kiri: yeah, he just walked in nice and casually
and sat down and Tia almost wet her panties.
(Russ gets laughing hearing that)
Russ: that would be fun to watch.
Russ: well I can tell that Sananda is definitely
somebody who was always in the moment.
Kiri: uh-huh. Knows exactly what's going on from
second to second to second.
Russ: yeah, his mind is not elsewhere when he is
Kiri: oh, you'd be surprised.
Russ: that's true. I suppose you could be in three
places, four, five different places at once if you
had to be.
Kiri: oh yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if he was.
Russ: okay, well, very impressed with him I have
Kiri: uh-huh. Very well mannered. I've never met
him before until that point.
Russ: yes you did. Oh, I guess you didn't.
Kiri: no, big sis has.
Russ: oh, I was thinking of that one party where
you jumped in the pool.
Kiri: no, he wasn't there.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: that was a purely Sirian function and I wish
she hadn't told you.
Russ: did you like my joke though?
Kiri: which joke?
THE TAPE ENDS
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